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Gizmo
04-22-12, 04:09 PM
Figured this would be a pretty cool discussion.

Tonight, Fox is airing the pilots of Married with Children and Simpsons starting at 7 with a 2 hour retrospective airing from 8-10.

Rypro 525
04-22-12, 05:12 PM
theyre showing the 500th episode of the Simpsons. Not the pilot

Geddlo
04-22-12, 05:30 PM
My channel guide says "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire".

bcd
04-22-12, 06:16 PM
My guide has S01/E01 listed for both shows. SHould be a fun trip down memory lane.

atrium
04-22-12, 06:24 PM
I wonder if anyone here actually saw the pilot on original air date. Must feel like an eternity ago now.

bcd
04-22-12, 06:32 PM
I remember watching, and yes it feels like it was a lifetime ago. I also remember talking about how FOX will never last.

Rypro 525
04-22-12, 06:34 PM
its funny comparing something low brow today (2.5 men) to Married. and Married is still more un PC even today

movieking
04-22-12, 07:17 PM
One of the Canadian channels aired this earlier...pretty interesting stuff. Gabrielle Cateris still looks the same, Calista Flockhart looks good, Jason Priestley looks haggard. Too bad they only got the 70s Show and In Living Color casts together, would have liked to see Duchovny & Anderson together especially.

I forgot how many awful awful awful reality shows Fox had. Forgot Monica Lewinsky even hosted one.

Deftones
04-22-12, 07:20 PM
I wonder if anyone here actually saw the pilot on original air date. Must feel like an eternity ago now.

I am pretty sure I did, but I would've only been about 10 years old. I only remember getting into the Simpsons because my older sister liked the Tracy Ullman show and talked about the Simpsons shorts on there.

mhg83
04-22-12, 07:41 PM
:lol: at showing Firefly. Fuck you Fox!

atrium
04-22-12, 07:44 PM
I am pretty sure I did, but I would've only been about 10 years old. I only remember getting into the Simpsons because my older sister liked the Tracy Ullman show and talked about the Simpsons shorts on there.
Yeah I was a tot then and though I did get into The Simpsons early-mid 90's, I didn't see it from the very beginning.

astrochimp
04-22-12, 08:15 PM
I got a nerd boner during the Sci-Fi section. Watching the X-Files stuff made me wanna get out all my dvd sets and watch them again.

DJLinus
04-22-12, 08:46 PM
I was planning on rewatching the entire run of 24 (via Amazon Prime) this summer when I don't have as many new things on TV to watch, but damn those clips make me want to start doing it sooner.

And I remember watching the first Simpsons episode. I probably still have it on a VHS tape somewhere.

astrochimp
04-22-12, 08:59 PM
That was great :up:

Charlie Goose
04-22-12, 10:49 PM
I remember watching both The Simpsons and MwC pilots on their original air dates. How many crap shows has Fox had since then that have been completely forgotten, while two of their first shows are now classics? And one STILL making new episodes!

Bill Needle
04-22-12, 11:00 PM
I didn't know this was on and tuned in late. Missed the MwC feature. :(

PatD
04-22-12, 11:11 PM
Whither Arsenio?

http://youritlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/arsenio.jpg

ChessPieceFace
04-22-12, 11:33 PM
I wonder if anyone here actually saw the pilot on original air date. Must feel like an eternity ago now.
I think I was in sixth grade. My parents watched the Tracey Ullman show, and I waited through the sketches to catch the Simpsons shorts. I was super excited when they announced they were making a series, and I watched and (for a while) recorded every episode as it aired.

I've seen every episode since, and between VHS, DVD and syndication, I've seen many from the first few seasons about dozen times each.

Yeah, it's been a long ride. :)

Crocker Jarmen
04-22-12, 11:52 PM
I think I was in sixth grade. My parents watched the Tracey Ullman show, and I waited through the sketches to catch the Simpsons shorts. I was super excited when they announced they were making a series, and I watched and (for a while) recorded every episode as it aired.

I've seen every episode since, and between VHS, DVD and syndication, I've seen many from the first few seasons about dozen times each.

Yeah, it's been a long ride. :)

We couldn't pick up FOX on our TV, but my grandmother next door could get it on her's, so I remember going next door to her house to catch the Tracy Ullman Show (just for The Simpson shorts) and Comic Strip Live. I remember how excited I was a year later when I saw a commercial on TV advertising FULL LENGTH episodes of The Simpsons.

My Other Self
04-22-12, 11:55 PM
I was very, very young but I vageuly remember watching The Simpsons pilot with my dad. I didn't get to watch Married... with Children until I was a little older because of the adult humor. Both wow, 25 years is a long time.

Alan Smithee
04-23-12, 12:17 AM
And Fox took down a lot of great INDEPENDENT TV stations in the process, and brought The Bug to American TV. (Ironically on HD they now keep the picture clean but add in logos of individual stations- I've heard that's all controlled on the network end.) I do have their very first show on tape, which was The Late Show with Joan Rivers. I taped their first night of prime-time where they ran Married With Children and Tracey Ullman three times in a row, with the same commercials each time, but taped over it later because I was too depressed about seeing my uncut prime-time movies going away. I did like a few of their shows, but quit watching once the stupid Fox logo started showing up in the corner, then all the other networks thought it was such a great idea that they joined in. (Somewhere I still have a tape with the last Simpsons episode I ever watched which had a gag completely RUINED by the Fox logo- if I ever dig it out I'll post it. I had written to Fox complaining about this when it started too, they never replied but I did get a letter from The Simpsons staff thanking me because they hated it too.)

Alan Smithee
04-23-12, 12:26 AM
Sacramento's KTXL TV-40, before it became Fox 40- I had wanted to work there way back when, glad I didn't now. I was shocked to hear that they were picking up the Fox network when there were two smaller independent stations that had much crappier programming and could have used it more (they later got UPN and WB) :

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They also got on KTVU in San Francisco- didn't know what station in that area was getting Fox til Joan Rivers aired that night:

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In the interest of fairness I'll post the first-ever Fox network ID that appeared during the Joan Rivers show- it was called FBC (Fox Broadcasting Company) at the time. Have to dig the tape out.

TheKing
04-23-12, 12:51 AM
I'm disappointed that they aired the syndicated version of the MWC pilot. I understand that modern runtimes for shows are about 3-5 minutes less now, but it would have been nice to see the show as it aired 25 years ago. I guess that's what DVD is for (well, seasons 1-3 anyway).

It's amazing just how much of today's comedies owe to Married...With Children. In a sea of shows like Growing Pains and Family Ties, there really was nothing like it. Sure, you could draw the comparisons to All In The Family, as in many ways MWC was that show for the 80s.

As for The Simpsons, what can you say about that show that hasn't already been said? Just amazing how far animation on TV has come in 22+ years. I mean this episode was only a step above the saturday morning toons of the day (in looks, not in overall quality).

My Other Self
04-23-12, 12:55 AM
KTXL is my local Fox affiliate. If I watched local news, they were the station since Donna Cordova is such a MILF. When they canned her and brought in Stefani Cruz and some guy I stopped watching.

JPeeples
04-23-12, 01:44 AM
It was great to see the MWC and Simpsons pilots re-airing and I loved seeing a lot of things I'd forgotten about or haven't seen in a while (like New York Undercover) on FOX again.

Evan Meadow
04-23-12, 05:41 AM
Whither Arsenio?

http://youritlist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/arsenio.jpg

Aresenio was a syndicated show, not network.

You're mistaking Arsenio for Chevy Chase. :D

Shannon Nutt
04-23-12, 06:30 AM
I was a little ticked that FOX ran a segment on their sci-fi shows and totally snubbed ALIEN NATION, which was not only their FIRST sci-fi show, but (I believe) the only show in FOX history whose series was followed up with a string of made-for-TV films. Then again, they also forgot Lone Gunman, Harsh Realm, Terra Nova (unless it came later in the show, which I didn't watch), Freakylinks, Space: Above and Beyond, and maybe a few others.

I did enjoy The X-Files tribute...makes me wish FOX would bring it back (new agents, new cases...maybe cameos by the originals).

mhg83
04-23-12, 08:32 AM
No love for Americas Most Wanted either. I thought for sure they would have a segment with John Walsh. Instead they have a whole segment on fucking sports. The show was revolutionary. Is it still on?

Dragon Tattoo
04-23-12, 08:50 AM
No love for Americas Most Wanted either. I thought for sure they would have a segment with John Walsh. Instead they have a whole segment on fucking sports. The show was revolutionary. Is it still on?

It airs on Lifetime now.

Gizmo
04-23-12, 09:27 AM
I was a little ticked that FOX ran a segment on their sci-fi shows and totally snubbed ALIEN NATION, which was not only their FIRST sci-fi show, but (I believe) the only show in FOX history whose series was followed up with a string of made-for-TV films. Then again, they also forgot Lone Gunman, Harsh Realm, Terra Nova (unless it came later in the show, which I didn't watch), Freakylinks, Space: Above and Beyond, and maybe a few others.

I did enjoy The X-Files tribute...makes me wish FOX would bring it back (new agents, new cases...maybe cameos by the originals).

Aside from Alien Nation, the other shows lasted only One Season and were not the cult hit like Firefly was (which they showed). Terra Nova was an embarrassment.

DJariya
04-23-12, 04:03 PM
That was a pretty good 2 hour special.

I know they can't cover everything, but I think they did a good job covering some of the more memorable shows on FOX.

:thumbsup: Nice to see the 24 clips and hearing Kiefer speak. Although Kiefer says the same thing about 24 over and over again.

:lol: Loved the final segment when they talked about In Living Color. Men on Film and The Homeboy Shopping Network were hilarious skits. I was in High School when that was on and it was probably one of the most talked shows at my schoo. Monday morning, all my classmates would say...."Did you watch In Living Color last night?" A little surprised that Damon Wayans didn't participate. I think In Living Color unfortunately went out on a whimper when Keenan Ivory Wayans left the show and they used different writers.

Beverly Hills 90210 was also one of my favorite shows growing up.

Hard to believe how old some of the cast is now. Ian Ziering is 48 and Gabrielle Carteris is 50. It was cool that they got them along with Priestly, Doherty to talk about the show. Priestly's appearance is almost the same except him being alot older and more haggard.

DJariya
04-23-12, 04:07 PM
No love for Americas Most Wanted either. I thought for sure they would have a segment with John Walsh. Instead they have a whole segment on fucking sports. The show was revolutionary. Is it still on?

Yeah I was disappointed they didn't talk about America's Most Wanted. I stopped watching it regularly after 5 seasons, but I watched that and Unsolved Mysteries every week at one point and I loved the recreations and they did alot to help Law Enforcement. Plus, I recall it got cancelled and brought back by viewers at one point in it's run. I would have loved to have heard from John Walsh.

Just a guess, but maybe now that it's on another network (Lifetime) they probably didn't want it mentioned on this special since they are paying for it's rights.

Jason
04-23-12, 04:39 PM
Aside from Alien Nation, the other shows lasted only One Season and were not the cult hit like Firefly was (which they showed).

How did they handle the fact that they completely bungled Firefly?

DJariya
04-23-12, 06:26 PM
How did they handle the fact that they completely bungled Firefly?

They didn't talk about it. Ryan Seacrest tossed to the FOX Sci-Fi catergory and they just showed a montage of clips from various science fiction shows that aired on FOX including Firefly. The clips showed alot more recent shows like Terminator, Dollhouse, Tru Calling.

Rypro 525
04-23-12, 06:34 PM
^dont forget Dark Angel! (aka americas introduction to Jessica Alba

wishbone
04-23-12, 07:00 PM
Priestly's appearance is almost the same except him being alot older and more haggard.Jason Priestley was in a serious race car accident (http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123675&page=1) almost ten years ago.

My Other Self
04-23-12, 08:48 PM
I didn't see the special but I saw a pic on some website that looks like it was taken from that with 4 of the That '70s Show members. Surely Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis are the stars still getting work, but why did only those two, Valderrama and Laura Prepon show up?

Bill Needle
04-23-12, 08:52 PM
For one, IIRC Topher Grace is a douchey ingrate.

DJariya
04-23-12, 09:01 PM
I didn't see the special but I saw a pic on some website that looks like it was taken from that with 4 of the That '70s Show members. Surely Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis are the stars still getting work, but why did only those two, Valderrama and Laura Prepon show up?

Time constraints and they chose the most memorable characters from the shows they featured.

Beverly Hills 90210 had a huge cast over it's 10 year run. There is no way they could talk to everybody in a 3-4 minute segment. They talked to Priestly, Doherty and a couple of supporting characters.

Duchovny and Anderson talked in the X-Files segment. That's all that was needed. Don't need to hear from The Lone Gunman, Skinner, The Cigarette Smoking Man who were also important in the show.

Kiefer Sutherland spoke about 24. Jack was the star. Didn't need to hear from Chloe, Tony, Michelle, George, Palmer, Audrey, Logan etc.

My Other Self
04-23-12, 09:12 PM
Time constraints and they chose the most memorable characters from the shows they featured.The "star" of the show though was Topher Grace. Ashton Kutcher got more screen time in later seasons as he kind of blew up for whatever reason.

Just kind of surprised that none of the Foreman's were in there is all.

Gizmo
04-24-12, 09:04 AM
I didn't see the special but I saw a pic on some website that looks like it was taken from that with 4 of the That '70s Show members. Surely Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis are the stars still getting work, but why did only those two, Valderrama and Laura Prepon show up?

Laura Prepon has regular had work as well. She's starred in a two shows in the past few years.

JeffTheAlpaca
04-24-12, 03:45 PM
I watched until they showed about 30 minutes of American Idol footage.

It was ok but I am more of a NBC guy.

ScissorPuppy
04-24-12, 07:16 PM
Dammit! I totally forgot about this! Anyone know if they plan on putting it on fox.com or hulu?

My Other Self
04-24-12, 10:14 PM
Laura Prepon has regular had work as well. She's starred in a two shows in the past few years.She's yet to headline films. Regular work and being a star are two different things.