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DJariya
04-15-12, 02:40 PM
<img src="http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4604/girlsvc.jpg" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>By <a target="_new" href="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/djariya">djariya</a> at 2012-04-15

Synopsis:

In the premiere of this comedy about twentysomething women navigating their way through life in New York, Hannah swings and misses at two curves when her parents rescind their financial support and she loses her unpaid internship. Meanwhile, Hannah's roommate, Marnie, throws a dinner party for their nomadic friend Jessa, who's returned from yet another journey.

10 episodes

Trailer:

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I'm looking forward to this. It's gotten some really great reviews.

Gizmo
04-15-12, 02:54 PM
No thanks. After the recent HBO bloodbath I won't ever be paying for their services again.

Maybe I'll catch this on DVD/Blu if it gets renewed.

DJariya
04-15-12, 03:24 PM
No thanks. After the recent HBO bloodbath I won't ever be paying for their services again.

Maybe I'll catch this on DVD/Blu if it gets renewed.

Are you still mad about How to Make it in America and Hung getting cancelled? Dude, get over it. I know you said it was cheap to produce and shouldn't have gotten the axe, but noone is going to remember them 5 years from now.

Gizmo
04-15-12, 03:32 PM
Are you still mad about How to Make it in America and Hung getting cancelled? Dude, get over it. I know you said it was cheap to produce and shouldn't have gotten the axe, but noone is going to remember them 5 years from now.

And Bored to Death.

Very few people remember any show in 5 years.

My Other Self
04-15-12, 03:52 PM
Very few people remember any show in 5 years.That has go to be one of the dumbest things I've read. What kind of argument is that? :lol:

Gizmo
04-15-12, 04:08 PM
That has go to be one of the dumbest things I've read. What kind of argument is that? :lol:

Ask DJ.

DJariya
04-15-12, 04:22 PM
Okay, you aren't paying for HBO and won't be watching. I won't question your decision-making. It's your money.

Throwing Copper
04-15-12, 04:29 PM
I'm looking forward to this. Seems promising. HBO put on some clunkers there for a while.

Red Dog
04-15-12, 04:47 PM
but noone is going to remember them 5 years from now.

This is the wrong forum to make that argument, and frankly, I'm stunned it's coming from you. rotfl I can give you a whole list of premature cancellations of great/promising shows from before 2007. :lol:

DJariya
04-15-12, 04:54 PM
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20584390,00.html

Okay, not to go way off topic. Entertainment Weekly gave it an A

starman9000
04-15-12, 05:13 PM
I'm optimistic about this one too.

Snowmaker
04-15-12, 05:20 PM
It looks about as bad as How to Make it in America. That show was unwatchable. I didn't even know those three shows were cancelled.

dex14
04-15-12, 05:48 PM
Anyone see Dunham's Tiny Furniture? Pretty awful...and a lot of Criterion enthusiasts hate that its on the label. This looks pretty good though.

Cory02
04-15-12, 07:13 PM
I've heard good things so I'll give it a shot.

PopcornTreeCt
04-15-12, 08:55 PM
I don't think it looks good but all the reviews have been good so I'll be watching it after Mad Men.

lwhy?
04-15-12, 09:16 PM
I have this set to record mainly to see Allison Williams, Brian Williams hot daughter.
http://www.gq.com/images/women/2012/04/allison-williams/allison-williams-300x430.jpg

sven
04-15-12, 10:56 PM
I'll give it a shot.

Rypro 525
04-15-12, 11:22 PM
From Patton Oswalt's twitter (if anyone was wondering what they may be getting into) i'll prob watch tomorrow)
GIRLS. Holy shit. Think @louisck is "painfully honest"? Wait 'til you take a squirm-rocket with the hilarious @lenadunham.

PopcornTreeCt
04-16-12, 01:26 AM
I'm sold. Didn't think I was going to like it but all the characters were excruciatingly empathetic.

TerryW
04-16-12, 02:55 AM
Really good start.

pinata242
04-16-12, 08:57 AM
I enjoyed this but I wonder how it will do compared to more traditional comedies like E&D and Veep. I could see HBO jumping early on this. They probably should have wedged it between GoT and E&D for the premiere to maximize viewership.

starman9000
04-16-12, 09:04 AM
I really enjoyed it. Loved the casting of her parents.

Mordred
04-16-12, 01:11 PM
I wasn't expecting to enjoy this nearly as much as I did. Will definitely keep watching.

superdeluxe
04-16-12, 01:46 PM
I was interested in it, but the wife wasn't really down for it, I'll try to convince her to give it a shot.

Gunde
04-16-12, 02:27 PM
I liked it but after all the hype it was a little underwhelming to say the least.

critterdvd
04-16-12, 03:02 PM
While I thought the hype was a little too much as well - I just realized that most of the reviewers were able to watch the first 3 episodes at once.

I really liked what I watched and can't wait until next week!

bdshort
04-16-12, 03:34 PM
Recorded this but haven't watched yet. For whatever reason I don't usually follow the 30 minute shows on HBO though I did like Hung and Bored to Death.

DJariya
04-16-12, 03:36 PM
I liked it. Seemed more like a 30 minute drama than a comedy.

Hard to feel bad for Hannah though. She's 24 years old, living off her parents money in New York City and working a shit internship. BTW, I thought Internships were for college credit only. Who the fuck wants to work for free in their mid-20's? I think her parents were right to cut her off.

:lol: and we have a Peter Scolari sighting.

Shannon Nutt
04-16-12, 03:39 PM
I thought the pilot was very good...I can see this becoming a big hit for HBO.

Lena Dunham looks like a huge talent...creator, writer, director and star...all at just 25-years of age? I'm guessing by this time next year, she's a household name.

dolphinboy
04-16-12, 05:14 PM
Loved it (and that surprised me).

Red Dog
04-16-12, 06:36 PM
Is this supposed to be a comedy? I didn't laugh once. The lesson I took away is -- if you're an ugly chick right out of college and want to live on your own, you better either have rich parents who spoil you or you better have a marketable skill (I suppose maybe photoshot would be a nice start).

Easy delete.

Josh-da-man
04-16-12, 06:47 PM
I'm not sure what everyone is gushing about. It didn't really hold my interest.

Just came off like a bunch of smug, entitled, twentysomethings who think their boring lives are profound and deep.

It might have been better if that guy who went to get the lube actually penetrated his girfriend's ass...

MikahC
04-16-12, 06:51 PM
Hard to feel bad for Hannah though. She's 24 years old, living off her parents money in New York City and working a shit internship. BTW, I thought Internships were for college credit only. Who the fuck wants to work for free in their mid-20's? I think her parents were right to cut her off.

Her parents were both right and wrong. If you have the means to help your children, you do... That doesn't mean you relieve them of personal responsibliity. First of all, 2 years is an awful long time. But, "We're cutting you off effective today," is taking it way to the other extreme. They needed to have a serious talk that went something like this:

Parents: We can't continue supporting you financially and even if we could, we don't think we're doing you any favors by doing so.
Child: I'm finding myself.
Parents: We've no problem with you finding yourself as long as you do it while supporting yourself.
Child: The economy sucks. What do you expect me to do?
Parents: Well, your old room is still available. But if you want to stay on your own in New York City, you need to be able to support yourself. Given that's your responsiblity and not ours, let us know your plan before we leave. Otherwise, next month is the last month we'll pay your bills. Oh, and if you come home, you still have to get a job, even if it's that job at McDonalds you want to avoid.

As much as there are overly enabling parents, there are many parents who believe cutting a child off is the tough love solution to a dependent child, but in some cases that can set the adult child back considerably. I personally think it needs concrete discussion with finite goals, not rigid declarations, starting with the agreement that the parents have already lived up to the "responsibility" portion of being a parent and the onus is on the adult child.

But yeah, it's a comedy. It's just that whole premise rubbed me the wrong way, as did the daughter's seeming entitlement. Maybe you do 4 hours at McDonalds and 4 hours of internship. Or McDonalds on weekends. Something.

CKMorpheus
04-16-12, 10:06 PM
I liked it. Seemed more like a 30 minute drama than a comedy.

Hard to feel bad for Hannah though. She's 24 years old, living off her parents money in New York City and working a shit internship. BTW, I thought Internships were for college credit only. Who the fuck wants to work for free in their mid-20's? I think her parents were right to cut her off.

:lol: and we have a Peter Scolari sighting.

I worked an internship after college for a 20-dollar a day stipend. It sucked but it got me some nice places on my resume.

critterdvd
04-16-12, 10:24 PM
I worked an internship after college for a 20-dollar a day stipend. It sucked but it got me some nice places on my resume.

Same here. First two years out of college I worked a real job at bank if America 6-2:30 and interned from 4-12 getting paid $100 (week) at most. But the internship got me places.

dhmac
04-16-12, 10:37 PM
I've never done an internship but I do understand that the basic point of it is not making a lot of money, but getting a foot in the door (so to speak).

And I would think the girl's parents would understand that. Maybe meet her halfway or something, like pay 50% of her bills for a few more years.

TerryW
04-16-12, 10:42 PM
I would think most parents would give a warning before cutting a child completely off financially. Like, "in six months were cutting you off, so get a real job to supplement your internship."

critterdvd
04-16-12, 11:05 PM
I would think most parents would give a warning before cutting a child completely off financially. Like, "in six months were cutting you off, so get a real job to supplement your internship."

This.

My parents could never afford to even send me to college so I knew I was on my own, but I had friends that weren't and just dropping them cold turkey would really have been devastating.

PopcornTreeCt
04-17-12, 12:49 AM
"When I look at both of you, a Coldplay song plays in my heart."

I thought that line was great.

sven
04-17-12, 02:19 AM
Where was all this hype people keep talking about? Outside of HBO's own previews I had seen nothing of this show going in.

TerryW
04-17-12, 02:45 AM
I only saw Judd on Ferguson.

Gunde
04-17-12, 04:43 AM
Where was all this hype people keep talking about? Outside of HBO's own previews I had seen nothing of this show going in.
TV related podcasts and review sites.

lamphorn
04-17-12, 05:52 AM
I enjoyed it, but I'm not totally sold yet. It smacks of the precocious work of a very privileged kid being given a chance because her parents know "all the right people" who all remember how smart she was when they trotted her out at parties at the age of 11. It just reeks of it. It also feels designed to make middle-aged people feel like they understand the "millennials". The thing is a mumblecore sitcom. Groan.

The writing is interesting, but the directing drives me insane. With the exception of the put-the-camera-down-and-forget-it's-there sex scene, the show seemed to consist almost entirely of extreme-close-ups which makes it very hard to get any sense of the space the characters are in and makes the scenes feel like dialogues between floating heads.

As far as the parents/cutting off support thing goes... she's 24, and has been at that internship for I think it was 2 years?? It's time to shit or get off the pot with that career, or get a paying job of some sort while figuring out what she wants to do. That said, it's the parent's own damn fault she's so spoiled and they should at least give her a heads up and a little time to find something before cutting her off completely. They seem like idiots.

Tracer Bullet
04-17-12, 11:12 AM
I can see how middle-aged white guys who collect DVDs wouldn't enjoy this show. :shrug:

pinata242
04-17-12, 11:13 AM
I only saw Judd on Ferguson.

Lena was on Ferguson the next day and it was a great interview.

Raul3
04-17-12, 11:54 AM
It started fine but went bad really fast. Maybe this is oriented to females and that's why I don't get it. Sex in the City for the millenial girls?

Some of the dialogue reminded me of Diablo Cody...

I still will give it a chance. Maybe.

TerryW
04-17-12, 11:58 AM
Lena was on Ferguson the next day and it was a great interview.

That's right. I saw that too and totally forgot. D'oh!

DJariya
04-17-12, 12:52 PM
Where was all this hype people keep talking about? Outside of HBO's own previews I had seen nothing of this show going in.

Maybe nothing in the middle of Central Illinois. But here in Southern California and in the LA area, I've seen billboards, posters on the side of buses promoting the show. Also as Gunde said, alot of review sites and magazines have been plugging it.

Going back to the parents cutting off Hannah. The Mom was kind of a bitch about it, but I think she realized how spoiled and entitled Hannah was and wanted to use this to teach her a lesson. If your at an internship for 2 years and haven't gotten paid or a job offer yet, they are fucking taking advantage of you. I did my 1st television internship by Senior Year of College and got offered a staff job 1 month after graduation.

:lol: $1,100 per month to help her get her life and book going.

spainlinx0
04-17-12, 01:19 PM
I didn't think we were supposed to sympathize with the main character. She came across as spoiled and entitled. Also, that wasn't her boyfriend. He's a guy who just uses her for sex, and she's trying to convince him that she's worth more than that.

I thought the parents were more than generous. I can't imagine my parents ever paying for my rent for that period of time. If I lost my job suddenly, I can imagine my dad helping me for a month or two if I was really desperate, but I wouldn't ever expect him to pay my bills if I have already moved out. I think I had enough help when I was living at home.

Despite that, I liked that show, and I will continue watching.

mdc3000
04-17-12, 05:16 PM
I fucking hate Lena Dunham - Tiny Furniture was boring and not nearly as witty as it seemed to think it was...the first episode of Girls was just a rehash of elements from that movie. This chick thinks she is a voice of a generation and fancies herself a female Woody Allen. Not in a million years bitch. I'm out.

critterdvd
04-17-12, 07:40 PM
I didn't think we were supposed to sympathize with the main character. She came across as spoiled and entitled. Also, that wasn't her boyfriend. He's a guy who just uses her for sex, and she's trying to convince him that she's worth more than that.

Despite that, I liked that show, and I will continue watching.

I have to agree with what you said about the main character - or at least I hope that is the purpose of it. I was thinking of her as more of an antihero, someone that is interesting from an anthropological point-of-view, but not necesssarily likeable (at least until she matures in the upcoming episodes). But I really liked her friends, and yes they were b*tches in some respects, they at least had a heart and common sense I could agree with.

Ropes Pierre
04-17-12, 08:40 PM
I like the idea of fat broads taking it in the dumper, so they have me at least until that story line is exhausted.

plus gratuitous shots of girls on the potty. makes for a great post GOT guilty pleasure and will tide me over until Shameless returns.

Timber
04-17-12, 10:03 PM
Hmmm, I guess this is one of those shows where you're not supposed to like any of the lead characters?

slop101
04-18-12, 12:35 AM
I can see how middle-aged white guys who collect DVDs wouldn't enjoy this show. :shrug:I didn't so much not enjoy the show as I found none of the characters the least bit interesting, most of them being rather annoying.

And what does "white" have to do with it. Aren't these all white girls? Are you suggesting we'd enjoy it more if we were, say, Latino? You don't make any sense.

Tracer Bullet
04-18-12, 12:21 PM
I didn't so much not enjoy the show as I found none of the characters the least bit interesting, most of them being rather annoying.

That's kind of the point of the show. It's making fun of people like this.

And what does "white" have to do with it. Aren't these all white girls? Are you suggesting we'd enjoy it more if we were, say, Latino? You don't make any sense.

I'm sorry, you're right. Middle-aged men of all races that collect DVDs.

boogieman03
04-18-12, 12:36 PM
Not quite sure what to think about the show. Didn't love it. Didn't quite hate it. I'll stick around for a few weeks to see how it goes.

I agree with the people saying the way her parents cut her off was wrong. Should have given her a deadline of a month or 2.

I thought the girl trying to negotiate a paycheck out of her unpaid internship was painfully funny.
I laughed when she asked about the book she was writing and the boss responded with, "but you won't be here to read it".

CRM114
04-18-12, 12:40 PM
Are there really people like that main character? How depressing.

I'm ambivalent about the show. Not ready to cast it away on one episode.

Raul3
04-18-12, 12:45 PM
Are there really people like that main character? How depressing.


I think they are called "Millenials", or something like that.

BDB
04-18-12, 01:04 PM
I liked it - in for the season.

Tracer Bullet
04-18-12, 01:30 PM
Are there really people like that main character? How depressing.

Yes, you can find them here:

http://mt1.google.com/vt/lyrs=m@176113200,highlight:0x89c24416947c2109:0x82765c7404007886@1|style:maps&hl=en&src=app&x=603&y=770&z=11&s=Gal

Hiro11
04-18-12, 01:34 PM
This struck as a Whit Stillman ripoff minus the charm and wit and plus a bunch of degredation.

clckworang
04-18-12, 01:46 PM
"When I look at both of you, a Coldplay song plays in my heart."

I thought that line was great.

That line got a big laugh out of me. :lol:

Overall, I liked the show and will definitely be sticking with it. Actually, I'm not sure I have a choice. I watched it with my regular Sunday night TV buddy, and she loved it. With us caught up on Hell on Wheels, Walking Dead done for the season and True Blood not yet back, we were looking to find another show to watch or start on that night besides Game of Thrones. I guess this is it.

CRM114
04-18-12, 02:27 PM
I never lived at home or relied on my parents money from the moment I left for college. Tuition and expenses paid for by grants and loans and I worked for minimum wage for 30 hours a week. I graduated, got a job, and immediately moved and entered into a lease. I just don't understand being 24 and being shocked when your parents tell you the ride is over.

slop101
04-18-12, 04:37 PM
Yeah, my parents were loaded and even I lived with them after college, until I got a real job and saved up enough money until I could move out. I feel that I was entitled; this character isn't entitled, she's a lazy, unmotivated ****.


That's kind of the point of the show. It's making fun of people like this.
So you're saying that the point is to laugh at the characters rather than with them?

Well then Dunham is an even shitter writer/director than I had thought, because she gets none of that across. Everything's played way too dramatic to be funny. So therefore, it's just annoying.

Snowmaker
04-18-12, 06:12 PM
It was OK. I'll give it a few more episodes.

dolphinboy
04-18-12, 06:35 PM
You know, a lot of the stuff they do in Modern Family isn't how real people act, but it doesn't get analyzed like this at all. Dear lord, who cares what any of us did after college? It was funny watching that scene and I could imagine that actually happening. That's all I really needed.

I know this isn't the same kind of comedy, but this isn't The Killing or Mad Men either and I don't even see Mad Men threads get so serious about analyzing how people should or should not have done something.

mike7162
04-27-12, 04:17 AM
I don't think I've ever seen a pilot picked apart like this one - the fact that it's gotten that type of reaction must say something, I guess. Put me in the camp that found the show a little precious and light on laughs. Still, I suppose unlikeable people's stories have to be told too, and Lena Dunham puting a Betty Davis song on the soundtrack earned her a few points in my book!