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IstvanTheHun
03-25-12, 09:33 PM
Of the actors still around, from the 60's-90's, and not necessarily on top of their games today, but have legacies that are cinema hall of fame worthy...

who is the absolute best?

JZ1276
03-25-12, 09:41 PM
DeNiro

PopcornTreeCt
03-25-12, 09:53 PM
Marlon Brando

Rockmjd23
03-25-12, 09:55 PM
Why don't you rank them for us?

kd5
03-25-12, 10:00 PM
It's hard to choose from some of those listed, but without actually voting just yet I'm going to say Anthony Hopkins for now. I may change my mind later...:shrug: -kd5-

Solid Snake
03-25-12, 10:03 PM
I'd argue that the 60s is probably a horrible era to include knowing that the 70s was next door. I can't answer this yet.

I'd probably say De Niro. He was a powerhouse.

JumpCutz
03-25-12, 10:38 PM
Max Von Sydow


Sorry can't pick just one....

Of those listed, in their prime, Deniro, Hackman, Keitel and Nicholson.

Anthony Hopkins is such a ham.

I don't think Gibson or Eastwood belong on that list.

jmu878
03-25-12, 10:43 PM
DENIRO...probably my pick for #1 all time. No one has put a run together like he did in the 70s and 80s. Goodfellas, Casino and Heat were just icing on the cake.

PenguinJoe
03-25-12, 11:23 PM
As much as I like DeNiro a lot of his roles are similar to me. His best being Goodfellas, Wag the Dog, Awakenings, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, and King of Comedy.

Which is why I went with Dustin Hoffman.

Also, where's Denzel Washington? Glory, Philadelphia, Training Day, The Hurricane, Inside Man, Malcolm X, Devil in a Blue Dress, all great performances. I'd rank him up there when he's not doing shitting Tony Scott movies.

FRwL
03-26-12, 12:12 AM
Pacino is solely for his 70s/early 80s stuff.

Numanoid
03-26-12, 01:02 AM
Although he's never been a "star", John Hurt can act rings around everyone else on that list.

JZ1276
03-26-12, 01:23 AM
Pacino is solely for his 70s/early 80s stuff.

Although a great actor, Pacino to me seems to only be able to play two types of characters. The crazy, over the top type like in Heat or Devil's Advocate or the quiet, shy type like in The Godfather, Serpico and And Justice for All.

As much as I like DeNiro a lot of his roles are similar to me. His best being Goodfellas, Wag the Dog, Awakenings, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, and King of Comedy.

IMO DeNiro is much more versatile. Although he is widely known as the mobster type (Goodfellas, Casino), you can watch him in films like King of Comedy, Taxi Driver, Awakenings, Mean Streets, Cape Fear, Jacknife or Night and the City and he's so good that you almost forget it's Robert DeNiro on-screen

Solid Snake
03-26-12, 01:28 AM
Let's not forget Godfather Part II, which he did pretty much the whole damn role in Italian, and Once Upon A Time in America (when the fuck are we going to get the full Leone cut?!?!)

Chadm
03-26-12, 01:28 AM
When you included Michael Douglas didn't a bell go off in your head reminding you of someone you forgot?

Hokeyboy
03-26-12, 01:34 AM
Peter O'Toole.

Ash Ketchum
03-26-12, 06:41 AM
Hello? Have none of you seen Robert Duvall in anything?-rolleyes-

The Bus
03-26-12, 07:02 AM
List needs more Gary Oldman.

Shannon Nutt
03-26-12, 07:34 AM
This list needs more Denzel Washington as well (he's not THAT old, but he's older than Tom Hanks!).

Shannon Nutt
03-26-12, 07:37 AM
Hello? Have none of you seen Robert Duvall in anything?-rolleyes-

I saw him in The 6th Day and Deep Impact. Those were his two most notable performances, right? ;)

Jaymole
03-26-12, 08:11 AM
Over the past 15 to 20 years, De Niro is such a pale shadow of his former self that it is hard to pick him even though I consider him the best actor of his generation.

I will thus exclude myself from picking anyone.

inri222
03-26-12, 08:34 AM
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1953: The Thick-Walled Room (Kabe atsuki heya) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1956: Hi no tori – d. Umeji Inoue
1956: Fukuaki no seishun – d. Senkichi Taniguchi
1956: Sazae-san – d. Nobuo Aoyagi
1956: Oshidori no mon – d. Keigo Kimura
1957: Black River (Kuroi kawa) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1957: Oban – d. Yasuki Chiba
1957: Untamed (Arakure) – d. Mikio Naruse
1957: Hikage no musume – d. Shūe Matsubayashi
1957: Zoku Oban: Fuun hen – d. Yasuki Chiba
1957: A Dangerous Hero (Kiken na eiyu) – d. Hideo Suzuki
1957: Zokuzoku Oban: Doto uhen – d. Yasuki Chiba
1957: Sazae's Youth (Sazae-san no seishun) – d. Nobuo Aoyagi
1958: A Boy and Three Mothers (Haha sannin) – d. Seiji Hisamatsu
1958: All About Marriage (Kekkon no subete) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1958: Go and Get It (Buttuke honban) – d. Kozo Saeki
1958: Enjo – d. Kon Ichikawa
1958: The Naked Sun (Hadaka no taiyo) – d. Miyoji Ieki
1958: The Human Condition I (Ningen no jōken I) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1959: Yaju shisubeshi – d. Eizo Sugawa
1959: Odd Obsession (Kagi) – d. Kon Ichikawa
1959: Three Dolls in Ginza (Ginza no onéchan) – d. Toshio Sugie
1959: Anyakoro – d. Shiro Toyoda
1959: The Human Condition II (Ningen no jōken II) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1960: When a Woman Ascends the Stairs (Onna ga kaidan wo agaru toki) – d. Mikio Naruse
1960: Love Under the Crucifix (Oginsama) – d. Kinuyo Tanaka
1960: Daughters, Wives, and a Mother (Musume tsuma haha) – d. Mikio Naruse
1960: The Blue Beast (Aoi yaju) – d. Hiromichi Horikawa
1960: Get 'em All ("Minagoroshi no uta" yori kenju-yo saraba!) – d. Eizo Sugawa
1961: The Other Woman (Tsuma to shite onna to shite) – d. Mikio Naruse
1961: Immortal Love (Eien no hito) – d. Keisuke Kinoshita
1961: The Human Condition III (Ningen no jōken III) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1961: Yojimbo (Yōjinbō) – d. Akira Kurosawa
1961: Kumo ga chigieru toki – d. Heinosuke Gosho
1962: Sanjuro (Tsubaki Sanjuro) – d. Akira Kurosawa
1962: The Inheritance (Karami-ai) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1962: Harakiri (Seppuku) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1962: Madame Aki (Yushu heiya) – d. Shiro Toyoda
1963: High and Low (Tengoku to jigoku) – d. Akira Kurosawa
1963: Pressure of Guilt (Shiro to kuro) – d. Hiromichi Horikawa
1963: The Legacy of the 500,000 (Gojuman-nin no isan) – d. Toshirō Mifune
1963: Miren – d. Yasuki Chiba
1963: A Woman's Life (Onna no rekishi) – d. Mikio Naruse
1964: Jigoku sakusen – d. Takashi Tsuboshima
1964: Kwaidan (Kaidan) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1965: Saigo no shinpan – d. Hiromichi Horikawa
1965: Fort Graveyard (Chi to suna) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1966: Illusion of Blood (Yotsuya kaidan) – d. Shiro Toyoda
1966: Cash Calls Hell (Gohiki no shinshi) – d. Hideo Gosha
1966: The Sword of Doom (Dai-bosatsu toge) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1966: The Face of Another (Tanin no kao) – d. Hiroshi Teshigahara
1966: The Daphne (Jinchoge) – d. Yasuki Chiba
1967: The Age of Assassins (Satsujin kyo jidai) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1967: Kojiro – d. Hiroshi Inagaki
1967: Samurai Rebellion (Joi-uchi: Hairyo tsuma shimatsu) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1967: Tabiji – d. Shinji Murayama
1968: Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die! (Oggi a me... domani a te!) – d. Tonino Cervi
1968: Kill! (Kiru) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1968: Admiral Yamamoto (Rengo kantai shirei chokan: Yamamoto Isoroku) – d. Seiji Maruyama
1968: The Human Bullet (Nikudan) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1969: Goyokin – d. Hideo Gosha
1969: Eiko’s 5000 Kilograms (Eiko e no 5,000 kiro) – d. Koreyoshi Kurahara
1969: Battle of the Japan Sea (Nihonkai daikaisen) – d. Seiji Maruyama
1969: Tenchu! (Hitokiri) – d. Hideo Gosha
1969: Blood End (Tengu-to) – d. Satsuo Yamamoto
1969: Portrait of Hell (Jigokuhen) – d. Shiro Toyoda
1970: Duel at Ezo (Ezo yakata no ketto) – d. Kengo Furusawa
1970: Bakumatsu – d. Daisuke Itō
1970: The Scandalous Adventures of Buraikan (Buraikan) – d. Masahiro Shinoda
1970: Zatoichi Goes to the Fire Festival (Zatoichi abare-himatsuri) – d. Kenji Misumi
1970: Will to Conquer (Tenkan no abarembo) – d. Seiji Maruyama
1971: Inn of Evil (Inochi bonifuro) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1971: The Battle of Okinawa (film) (Gekido no showashi: Okinawa kessen) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1972: The Wolves (Shussho Iwai) – d. Hideo Gosha
1973: Osho – d. Hiromichi Horikawa
1973: Belladonna (Kanashimi no Belladonna) – Eiichi Yamamoto
1973: The Human Revolution (Ningen kakumei) – d. Toshio Masuda
1973: Rise, Fair Sun (Asayake no uta)– d. Kei Kumai
1974: Karei-naru Ichizoku – d. Satsuo Yamamoto
1975: The Gate of Youth (Seishun no mon) – Kiriro Urayama
1975: Tokkan – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1975: I Am a Cat (Wagahai wa neko de aru) – d. Kon Ichikawa
1975: Kinkanshoku – d. Satsuo Yamamoto
1976: Banka – d. Yoshihiro Kawasaki
1976: Zoku ningen kakumei – d. Toshio Masuda
1976: Fumo chitai – d. Satsuo Yamamoto
1977: Sugata Sanshiro – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1978: Blue Christmas (Buru Kurisumasu) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1978: Queen Bee (Jo-oh-bachi) – d. Kon Ichikawa
1978: Bandits vs. Samurai Squadron (Kumokiri nizaemon) – d. Hideo Gosha
1978: The Firebird (Hi no tori) – d. Kon Ichikawa
1979: Hunter in the Dark (Yami no karyudo) – d. Hideo Gosha
1980: Kagemusha – d. Akira Kurosawa
1980: Port Arthur (203 kochi) – d. Toshio Masuda
1981: Nihon no Atsui Hibi Bōsatsu: Shimoyama Jiken – d. Kei Kumai
1982: Onimasa (Kiruin Hanako no shogai) – d. Hideo Gosha
1983: Final Yamato (Uchū senkan Yamato: Kanketsuhen) – d. Tomoharu Katsumata / Yoshinobu Nishizaki / Takeshi Shirado / Toshio Masuda
1984: Kita no hotaru – d. Hideo Gosha
1985: Ran – d. Akira Kurosawa
1985: The Empty Table (Shokutaku no nai ie) – d. Masaki Kobayashi
1986: Atami satsujin jiken – d. Kazuo Takahashi
1987: Hachi-ko (Hachiko monogatari) – d. Seijirō Kōyama
1988: Return From the River Kwai – d. Andrew V. McLaglen
1988: Oracion (Yushun) – d. Shigemichi Sugita
1989: Four Days of Snow and Blood (Ni-ni-roku) – d. Hideo Gosha
1991: Heat Wave (Kagero) – d. Hideo Gosha
1992: The Wicked City (Yao shou du shi) – d. Mak Tai-Kit
1992: Basara – The Princess Goh (Goh-hime) – d. Hiroshi Teshigahara
1992: Faraway Sunset (Toki rakujitsu) – d. Seijiro Koyama
1993: Lone Wolf and Cub: Handful of Sand (Kozure Okami: Sono chiisaki te ni) – d. Akira Inoue
1993: Summer of the Moonlight Sonata (Gekko no natsu) – d. Seijiro Koyama
1995: East Meets West – d. Kihachi Okamoto
1996: Miyazawa Kenji sono ai – d. Seijiro Koyama
1996: A Son of the Good Earth (NHK Television series)
1999: After the Rain (Ame agaru) – d. Takashi Koizumi
1999: Spellbound (Kin'yu fushoku retto: Jubaku) – d. Masato Harada
2001: Vengeance for Sale (Sukedachi-ya Sukeroku) – d. Kihachi Okamoto
2002: To Dance With the White Dog (Shiroi inu to Waltz wo) – d. Takashi Tsukinoki
2002: Hi wa mata noboru – d. Kiyoshi Sasabe
2003: Like Asura (Ashura no gotoku) – d. Yoshimitsu Morita
2005: Yamato (Otoko-tachi no Yamato) – d. Junya Sato
2006: The Inugamis (Inugamike no ichizoku) – d. Kon Ichikawa
2007: Furin Kazan (NHK Taiga drama)

Ash Ketchum
03-26-12, 10:55 AM
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Agreed. Tatsuya Nakadai over everyone on that list, including Duvall.

Mr. Cinema
03-26-12, 10:59 AM
Bobby D.

GoldenJCJ
03-26-12, 11:50 AM
When you included Michael Douglas didn't a bell go off in your head reminding you of someone you forgot?
You're right! Where the hell is Danny DeVito on that list!? ;)

TomOpus
03-26-12, 11:54 AM
List needs more Gary Oldman.He's over in the other Best Actor thread. He might an "oldman" but he's not part of the "older" generation :)

Tarantino
03-26-12, 01:10 PM
He's over in the other Best Actor thread. He might an "oldman" but he's not part of the "older" generation :)

Yet Tom Hanks is on this list. :lol:

Tarantino
03-26-12, 01:11 PM
Also, Jeremy Irons is on both lists...

inri222
03-26-12, 01:30 PM
And Klaus Kinski is on none :(

superdeluxe
03-26-12, 01:30 PM
Robert Duvall.

TomOpus
03-26-12, 01:32 PM
Also, Jeremy Irons is on both lists...Great! :lol:

Since these threads don't have "Other" as a choice, I'll just wait and give someone a vote that didn't get one.

Supermallet
03-26-12, 01:40 PM
Toshiro Mifune and Klaus Kinski over everyone on that list.

OldBoy
03-26-12, 03:20 PM
Bobby D. has done some truly amazing stuff in the past.

Charlie Goose
03-26-12, 03:25 PM
Mickey Rooney is the greatest actor in the history of films.

Solid Snake
03-26-12, 05:26 PM
Mickey Rooney is the greatest actor in the history of films.

I've never liked him. He's got talent and the whatnot. He did his thing and was good at it..but he is nowhere near being great. He's had a great career but I've never been surprised by his acting.

Toshiro Mifune and Klaus Kinski over everyone on that list.

I'd agree w/ you on this...except he's dead. He doesn't follow the standard of what we need to hold up this thread by. Kinski is dead too.

I can't have enough Mifune. So sad to see how Kurosawa and Mifune ended their run like they did.

Numanoid
03-26-12, 05:38 PM
He's over in the other Best Actor thread. He might an "oldman" but he's not part of the "older" generation :)You know what's weird is that Gary Numan is older than Gary Oldman. :whofart:

TomOpus
03-26-12, 06:21 PM
You know what's weird is that Gary Numan is older than Gary Oldman. :whofart:Mind=blown

Supermallet
03-26-12, 06:26 PM
I'd agree w/ you on this...except he's dead. He doesn't follow the standard of what we need to hold up this thread by. Kinski is dead too.

I can't have enough Mifune. So sad to see how Kurosawa and Mifune ended their run like they did.

Oh jeez, you expect me to read the OP now? What do you think I'm made of, reading glasses?

Pizza
03-26-12, 07:19 PM
Of the older generation? Nice way to put it.
And, my answer would be Jack Lemmon but he's not on the list.

TomOpus
03-26-12, 07:23 PM
Of the older generation? Nice way to put it.
And, my answer would be Jack Lemmon but he's not on the list.

Might be because he's dead. Per the OP:

Of the actors still around,

K&AJones
03-26-12, 07:36 PM
Hands down...De Niro

I don't think there's anyone who has adopted, changed, molded, protrayed and became the charaters he has. You see the character he has made and not the actor....

Cape Fear
The Ragging Bull
The Untouchables
The Deer Hunter
The Godfather
Meet The Parents
The Fockers
Taxi Driver
Goodfellas
Men of Honor

GoldenJCJ
03-26-12, 07:44 PM
Is Tom Hanks really considered the "older generation"?

Supermallet
03-26-12, 07:51 PM
Of people still alive, how about Ian McKellan or Christopher Lee?

Pizza
03-26-12, 07:51 PM
Might be because he's dead. Per the OP:
Ahh. That would explain it. Thank you.

JumpCutz
03-26-12, 07:56 PM
Hands down...De Niro

I don't think there's anyone who has adopted, changed, molded, protrayed and became the charaters he has. You see the character he has made and not the actor....



Meet The Parents
The Fockers



:eek:

Let's just say I'd swap out those two for Mean Streets and Jacknife.

K&AJones
03-27-12, 12:43 AM
:eek:

Let's just say I'd swap out those two for Mean Streets and Jacknife.

No doubt...they were put in just to show that anyone who can play two psychos in Taxi Driver and Cape Fear, then turn around and make you laugh in two comedies is on the extreme

brayzie
03-27-12, 04:25 AM
I'm just now discovering how great Robert Deniro is after having just recently seeing Taxi Driver and The Deer Hunter. Not really a fan of the characters he played in Raging Bull or Taxi Driver.

Peter O'Toole is pretty great.

Jeremy Irons is great too but I've only seen him in Dead Ringers and M. Butterfly.

I'd go with Jeremy Irons. Always forget it's him when watching his movies because it seems like he totally becomes the characters.

inri222
03-27-12, 08:26 AM
I'm just now discovering how great Robert Deniro is after having just recently seeing Taxi Driver and The Deer Hunter. Not really a fan of the characters he played in Raging Bull or Taxi Driver.

Peter O'Toole is pretty great.

Jeremy Irons is great too but I've only seen him in Dead Ringers and M. Butterfly.

I'd go with Jeremy Irons. Always forget it's him when watching his movies because it seems like he totally becomes the characters.

IMO Raging Bull & Taxi Driver are DeNiro's best performances.
If you like Irons you should see Reversal of Fortune & Damage.

Terrell
03-27-12, 04:21 PM
I'm going to have to go with Hoffman.

Kramer vs. Kramer
All the President's Men
Rain Man
Papillon
Rain Man
Tootsie
Midnight Cowboy
Straw Dogs
The Graduate
Little Big Man
Wag the Dog
Death Of A Salesman
Lenny

JohnnyMovie
04-01-12, 12:07 AM
Clint Eastwood :thumbsup:

JumpCutz
04-01-12, 01:26 AM
Clint Eastwood :thumbsup:


Best actor? :lol: rotfl

FRwL
04-01-12, 03:13 AM
Well he's certainly the best fister.

Goldberg74
04-01-12, 08:08 AM
Hackman is the most diverse.

JesseCuster
04-02-12, 04:36 PM
In terms of body of work and living, I would say (seperating American from International):

1. Jack Nicholson
2. Robert DeNiro
3. Gene Hackman
4. Robert Duvall
5. Al Pacino


1. Peter O'Toole
2. Anthony Hopkins
3. Jeremy Irons
4. John Hurt
5. Terrance Stamp

Norm de Plume
04-02-12, 05:24 PM
From this list, Dustin Hoffman. What an outstanding actor!

DeFan
04-03-12, 02:28 AM
Marlon Brando

I'd agree but of "Of the actors still around" I'd pick Clint Eastwood. He's an awesome director too.

Boba Fett
04-03-12, 04:42 AM
From that list, Hackman. An effortless actor, even in the worst movie around the guy turned in a great performance.

FRwL
04-03-12, 02:19 PM
You forgot to add Eli Wallach.

islandclaws
04-03-12, 02:22 PM
DeNiro was unstoppable... for a period.

But, for overall consistency and quality of work (even in later years), I'm going with Gene Hackman. He's such an amazing actor it's ridiculous.

Groucho
04-03-12, 02:26 PM
Christina Ricci

BrewCrew
04-03-12, 02:57 PM
If you are going back to the 60's I would probably include Sidney Poitier on the list but would still choose Deniro.