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Matthew Chmiel
03-23-12, 07:36 PM
FRIDAY 4:10 PM, 4TH UPDATE… EXCLUSIVE: My movie studio sources are telling me that the Friday gargantuan opening box office for Lionsgate’s The Hunger Games is ranging from a low of $60M to a high of $75M today from 4,137 North American theaters. That number includes the record-setting $19.75M midnight grosses. For the 3-day weekend overall domestic blockbuster number, my insiders are predicting a low of $135M to a high near $150M. This is a huge bonanza for the studio and not much less than its motion picture revenue for recent quarters. Meanwhile Lionsgate sources are telling me that the hotly anticipated pic did a matinee per-screen average of $7,800. Now that number is rising past $9,900 at this hour. That’s better than The Dark Knight ($9,806) but not Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part Two ($11,300) and Twilight Saga’s Breaking Down Part One ($9,310) and New Moon ($12,600).

To refresh everyone's memory, here's the biggest opening weekends we've encountered so far:

1. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2: $169 million opening weekend. (2011; 45% total gross.)
2. The Dark Knight: $158 million opening weekend. (2008; 30% total gross.)
3. Spider-man 3: $151 million opening weekend. (2007; 45% total gross.)
4. The Twilight Saga: New Moon: $143 million opening weekend. (2009; 49% total gross.)
5. The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 1: $139 million opening weekend. (2011; 50% total gross)
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest: $136 million opening weekend. (2006; 32% total gross.)
7. Iron Man 2: $128 million opening weekend. (2010; 41% total gross.)

... and the biggest single days:

1. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2: $91 million. (2011)
2. The Twilight Saga: New Moon: $72 million. (2009)
3. The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 1: $72 million. (2011)
4. The Twilight Saga: Eclipse: $69 million. (2010)
5. The Dark Knight: $67 million. (2008)
6. Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: $62 million. (2009)
7. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1: $62 million. (2010)
8. Spider-man 3: $60 million. (2007)
9. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince: $59 million. (2009)
10. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest: $56 million. (2006)

The Hunger Games will end up somewhere sandwiched on that list and will give Lionsgate (unofficially) three of the biggest opening weekends of all time and four of the biggest single days of all time. It's good to see their purchase of Summit Entertainment finally pay off.

There's no news on the other films currently playing in theaters. However, I heard Taylor Kitsch is mopping a floor somewhere at Disney before he has to clean up Universal.

Dr. DVD
03-23-12, 07:49 PM
There's no news on the other films currently playing in theaters. However, I heard Taylor Kitsch is mopping a floor somewhere at Disney before he has to clean up Universal.


Dude, that's cruel. FWIW, I saw him outside the theater at Universal Citywalk in Orlando, and he seemed somewhat happy with his new career. ;)

Does this mean Hunger Games will have the largest opening weekend for something that isn't a sequel?

Matthew Chmiel
03-23-12, 07:55 PM
Does this mean Hunger Games will have the largest opening weekend for something that isn't a sequel?
Yes.

However, it's still an adaptation meaning that an original idea has not done gangbusters on its opening day or weekend.

Unless your James Cameron, then you reap the benefits long term. :)

islandclaws
03-23-12, 08:08 PM
I knew this would open big, but these are huge numbers. Hell, I even have interest in seeing it after hearing the good WOM, and the fact that my mom wants to check it out.

Taylor Kitsch has the Spring and Summer bombs wrapped up. Has he got anything on tap for Fall to complete the hat trick? Poor guy.

Dr. DVD
03-23-12, 08:09 PM
I knew this would open big, but these are huge numbers. Hell, I even have interest in seeing it after hearing the good WOM, and the fact that my mom wants to check it out.

Taylor Kitsch has the Spring and Summer bombs wrapped up. Has he got anything on tap for Fall to complete the hat trick? Poor guy.

If they bump Oliver Stone's Savages to Fall, he very well might.

islandclaws
03-24-12, 10:31 AM
From Deadline:

1. The Hunger Games (Lionsgate) NEW [4,137 Theaters] PG13-rated
Est Friday $68.2M, Est Weekend $140.0M

2. 21 Jump Street (Sony) Week 2 [3,121 Theaters] R-rated
Est Friday $6.4M, Est Weekend $20.0M (-52%), Est Cume $70.0M

3. Dr. Seuss’ The Lorax (Universal) Week 4 [3,677 Theaters] PG-rated
Est Friday $3.2M, Est Weekend $13.0M, Est Cume $175.0M

4. John Carter (Disney) Week 3 [3,212 Theaters) PG13-rated
Est Friday $1.5M, Est Weekend $5.5M, Est Cume $63.0M

5. Project X (Warner Bros) Week 4 [2,065 Theaters] R-rated
Est Friday $700K, Est Weekend $1.8M, Est Cume $51.6M

6. October Baby (IDP/SGF) NEW [398 Theaters] PG13-rated
Est Friday $600K, Est Weekend $1.8M

7. Act Of Valor (Relativity) Week 5 [2,219 Theaters] R-rated
Est Friday $550K, Est Weekend $1.9M, Est Cume $65.8M

8. A Thousand Words (DWorks/Par) Week 3 [1,787 Theaters] PG13-rated
Est Friday $500K, Est Weekend $1.7M, Est Cume $14.8M

9. Safe House (Universal) Week 7 [1,330 Theaters] R-rated
Est Friday $475K, Est Weekend $1.5M, Est Cume $122.8M

10. Journey 2 (Warner Bros) Week 7 [1,340 Theaters] PG-rated
Est Friday $400K, Est Weekend $1.3M, Est Cume $97.0M

TomOpus
03-24-12, 10:39 AM
Safe House $122 million? Damn, didn't realize it was doing that well.

Solid Snake
03-24-12, 11:00 AM
wtf is October Baby?

Matthew Chmiel
03-24-12, 01:10 PM
wtf is October Baby?
An anti-abortion drama from those nutballs who gave us Fireproof and Courageous.

PenguinJoe
03-24-12, 01:38 PM
I never see big movies the weekend they come out, I learned this the hard way when all we wanted to do is see Spider-Man 2. I always wait two or three weeks, but I plan on seeing Hunger Games.

Artman
03-24-12, 02:11 PM
An anti-abortion drama from those nutballs who gave us Fireproof and Courageous.

Gotta love the progressive mindset...

Matthew Chmiel
03-24-12, 02:15 PM
Gotta love the progressive mindset...
Okay, let me fix that.

Ahem.

An anti-abortion drama from those crazy Christian cocksuckers with not a single ounce of talent who gave us Fireproof and Courageous.

Is that better? Am I doing it right?

If anything, that entire studio should be burned to the ground for allowing Kirk Cameron to still have some relevancy in today's society.

Solid Snake
03-24-12, 02:28 PM
I'm agreeing w/ MC here. I'd rather watch a bad Bay film over the best of those films.

auto
03-24-12, 04:05 PM
I'm agreeing w/ MC here. I'd rather watch a bad Bay film over the best of those films.

It's crazy, but I agree.

TimeandTide
03-24-12, 05:01 PM
7. Act Of Valor (Relativity) Week 5 [2,219 Theaters] R-rated
Est Friday $550K, Est Weekend $1.9M, Est Cume $65.8M

A $45 million gamble that will be lucky to gross $4.5 million domestically? God bless Hollywood.


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/Time_and_Tide/nelson_ha_ha_answer_2_xlarge.jpg

My Other Self
03-24-12, 05:29 PM
This Hunger Games stuff has taken me by surprise. I had never heard of the books or anything until earlier this week. Never saw a trailer, or commercial, or anything. Now it's taking in $140 Mill this weekend. That's insane.

Does the source material appeal mainly to younger kids?

TimeandTide
03-24-12, 06:07 PM
Does the source material appeal mainly to younger kids?

About a third of my 9th graders have either read the series or are currently reading it and nearly all of them have expressed interest in the films. (Quite a few even braved four-hour lines and attended the midnight screenings a couple of evenings ago.) But my 32-year old gf loves it too. Definitely one of those rare books that appeals to all ages and both genders. As I mentioned in the HG thread, the last time I've seen this kind of massive interest in a book was when when Harry Potter debuted.

islandclaws
03-24-12, 06:12 PM
About a third of my 9th graders have either read the series or are currently reading it and nearly all of them have expressed interest in the films. (Quite a few even braved four-hour lines and attended the midnight screenings a couple of evenings ago.) But my 32-year old gf loves it too. Definitely one of those rare books that appeals to all ages and both genders. As I mentioned in the HG thread, the last time I've seen this kind of massive interest in a book was when when Harry Potter debuted.

Finally moved up the age bracket, eh?

Solid Snake
03-24-12, 06:17 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0xToZLlI3Eo/Tgx1Bj9m9sI/AAAAAAAAI78/AyEFs0OkJkw/s1600/chris_hansen.gif

Deftones
03-24-12, 06:28 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/Time_and_Tide/nelson_ha_ha_answer_2_xlarge.jpg

I posted something similar on opening weekend for that movie, but thanks for doing it again. :up:

JumpCutz
03-24-12, 07:01 PM
Okay, let me fix that.

Ahem.

An anti-abortion drama from those crazy Christian cocksuckers with not a single ounce of talent who gave us Fireproof and Courageous.

Is that better? Am I doing it right?

If anything, that entire studio should be burned to the ground for allowing Kirk Cameron to still have some relevancy in today's society.


:lol: :thumbsup: :lol:

Matthew Chmiel
03-24-12, 07:03 PM
I'm agreeing w/ MC here. I'd rather watch a bad Bay film over the best of those films.
I'd rather just stand next to a doctor and watch an actual abortion take place than ever sit through Fireproof, Courageous, October Baby, Left Behind, so on and so on and so on.

And thanks for everyone bringing up Act of Valor again for the third time during a weekend box office thread. :thumbsup:

However, I'd like to point out, that the film is flopping overseas. So there. :)

JumpCutz
03-24-12, 07:07 PM
However, I'd like to point out, that the film is flopping overseas. So there. :)

:thumbsup: Good to know.

Deftones
03-24-12, 07:10 PM
However, I'd like to point out, that the film is flopping overseas. So there. :)

It's been released in Iceland, Lebanon, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand and United Arab Emirates. Not exactly worldwide coverage there. rotfl


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=actofvalor.htm

TimeandTide
03-24-12, 07:37 PM
Finally moved up the age bracket, eh?

;)

RayChuang
03-24-12, 09:07 PM
This Hunger Games stuff has taken me by surprise. I had never heard of the books or anything until earlier this week. Never saw a trailer, or commercial, or anything. Now it's taking in $140 Mill this weekend. That's insane.


I've read that in many movie complexes across the USA, every showing of the movie this weekend is completely sold out. I have this feeling it could be higher than US$140 million this weekend. Maybe Lionsgate will put in more money for the two sequel movies?

Matthew Chmiel
03-24-12, 09:42 PM
It's been released in Iceland, Lebanon, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand and United Arab Emirates. Not exactly worldwide coverage there. rotfl


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=actofvalor.htm
Either way, the film hasn't caught on fire there as it did here. Hell, John Carter is making more money than it in those respective countries. -ptth-

PopcornTreeCt
03-24-12, 11:20 PM
John Carter is now officially the biggest bomb in cinema history. Congrats, Disney.

Kal-El
03-24-12, 11:31 PM
John Carter is now officially the biggest bomb in cinema history. Congrats, Disney.

Deservedly so. Saw it last night and about 8 people walked out of it. I fell asleep at several times.

Troy Stiffler
03-24-12, 11:33 PM
John Carter is now officially the biggest bomb in cinema history. Congrats, Disney.

It surpasses ... Cuthroat Island? Did that still hold the record?

bluetoast
03-25-12, 12:29 AM
Yeah it beat (in a bad way) cutthroat island by about 50 million if I read correctly.

Finisher
03-25-12, 12:49 AM
Strong Saturday for Hunger Games, now likely over 150 million for the weekend. Glad I bought Lionsgate stock a month ago.

Supermallet
03-25-12, 01:30 AM
John Carter is now officially the biggest bomb in cinema history. Congrats, Disney.

Adjusted for inflation?

And really, the movie is decent. Not great, but certainly not worthy of being the biggest bomb in history.

My Other Self
03-25-12, 01:32 AM
The biggest bomb in cinema history? That's crazy. It certainly didn't look very good but it didn't have that "biggest bomb of all-time" vibe.

superdeluxe
03-25-12, 01:52 AM
This Hunger Games stuff has taken me by surprise. I had never heard of the books or anything until earlier this week. Never saw a trailer, or commercial, or anything. Now it's taking in $140 Mill this weekend. That's insane.

Does the source material appeal mainly to younger kids?

Not really, tons of adults and men as well.

shadowhawk2020
03-25-12, 07:22 AM
I read it (I didn't know it was geared to kids when I started it) an enjoyed it as a fast read. Other than the fact that the main character is female I didn't see it being for girls only.

mhg83
03-25-12, 07:39 AM
John Carter is now officially the biggest bomb in cinema history. Congrats, Disney.

Bigger than Mallrats?

B.A.
03-25-12, 08:01 AM
Adjusted for inflation?

And really, the movie is decent. Not great, but certainly not worthy of being the biggest bomb in history.
Yeah, it was good (much better than I thought it would be) and deserved a better reception.

I thought word of mouth might help it, but it was doomed from the start.

islandclaws
03-25-12, 10:46 AM
So, with the $155m OW for The Hunger Games, it's Lionsgate's biggest film ever already.

Interesting fact: their previous biggest live-action film: The Expendables. I never realized that none of their films has ever broken $125m.

bluetoast
03-25-12, 10:59 AM
That's funny, last night John Carter was at the top of this list, and now it's gone. Maybe because it's still in theaters they don't want to include it quite yet. Box Office Mojo might be a better source anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box_office_bombs

superdeluxe
03-25-12, 11:14 AM
So, with the $155m OW for The Hunger Games, it's Lionsgate's biggest film ever already.

Interesting fact: their previous biggest live-action film: The Expendables. I never realized that none of their films has ever broken $125m.

Hunger games is going to be the box office winner of the year IMHO No 3d bump and 55% of audience is over the age of 25

Mr. Cinema
03-25-12, 11:22 AM
The Hunger Games worldwide total for the weekend is around $214 million.

anomynous
03-25-12, 11:34 AM
Bigger than Mallrats?

Mallrats stretches though, even the reproductive organs.

PenguinJoe
03-25-12, 11:46 AM
That's funny, last night John Carter was at the top of this list, and now it's gone. Maybe because it's still in theaters they don't want to include it quite yet. Box Office Mojo might be a better source anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biggest_box_office_bombs

1997's Lolita was a Showtime original movie I believe. So I'm not sure how it was a bomb.

Also, Disney should not have just named the movie John Carter, maybe the John Carter Chronicles or something, I have heard more than once younger people thinking the name of the actor in the movie is John Carter.

TomOpus
03-25-12, 11:52 AM
1997's Lolita was a Showtime original movie I believe. So I'm not sure how it was a bomb.Huh? As far as I remember it was never a Showtime original movie.

Finisher
03-25-12, 11:55 AM
"Due to the difficulty in securing a distributor, the film had a very limited theatrical run in order to qualify for awards. Lolita only took in a gross income of $19,492 in its opening weekend. The final domestic gross income was $1,147,784 on a $62,000,000 budget, making the film one of the biggest box office bombs of all time. This same statistic also makes it the most expensive TV movie ever made."

fitprod
03-25-12, 12:18 PM
Bigger than Mallrats?

Better analogy, bigger than Mars Needs Moms?

At least John Carter will have toys and everything else to fall back on.

No one wanted anything from Mars Needs Moms, not even the DVD/Blu-ray releases.

fitprod

TomOpus
03-25-12, 12:23 PM
"Due to the difficulty in securing a distributor, the film had a very limited theatrical run in order to qualify for awards. Lolita only took in a gross income of $19,492 in its opening weekend. The final domestic gross income was $1,147,784 on a $62,000,000 budget, making the film one of the biggest box office bombs of all time. This same statistic also makes it the most expensive TV movie ever made."I guess my idea of a TV movie is one that was made for, and shown on, TV only. I remember all the controversy when it hit theaters. The movie was released in France and the US theatrically. So I stand corrected that it was indeed a made-for-TV movie.

Matthew Chmiel
03-25-12, 01:04 PM
Interesting fact: their previous biggest live-action film: The Expendables. I never realized that none of their films has ever broken $125m.
Wouldn't Fahrenheit 9/11 be their biggest live-action film as it did $120 million domestically compared to The Expendables' $110 million?

Matthew Chmiel
03-25-12, 01:07 PM
Oh... and just because Deadline posted it an hour ago:

Here’s the Top Ten (based on weekend grosses):

1. The Hunger Games (Lionsgate) NEW [4,137 Theaters] PG13-rated
Friday $68M, Saturday $51.0M, Weekend $155.0M
International $59.25M, Worldwide $214.25

2. 21 Jump Street (Sony) Week 2 [3,121 Theaters] R-rated
Friday $6.2M (-53%), Saturday $8.6M, Weekend $21.3M (-41%), Cume $71M

3. Dr. Seuss’ The Lorax 3D (Universal) Week 4 [3,677 Theaters] PG-rated
Friday $3.2M, Saturday $5.9M, Weekend $13.1M, Cume $177.3M

4. John Carter 3D (Disney) Week 3 [3,212 Theaters) PG13-rated
Friday $1.3M, Saturday $2.2M, Weekend $5.0M, Cume $62.3M
International $172.1M, Worldwide $234.4M

5. Act Of Valor (Relativity) Week 5 [2,219 Theaters] R-rated
Friday $560K, Saturday $925K, Weekend $2.0M, Cume $65.9M

6. Project X (Warner Bros) Week 4 [2,065 Theaters] R-rated
Friday $625K, Saturday $810K, Weekend $1.9M, Cume $51.7M

7. A Thousand Words (DWorks/Par) Week 3 [1,787 Theaters] PG13-rated
Friday $525K, Saturday $905K, Weekend $1.9M, Cume $14.9M

8. October Baby (Provident/Goldwyn) NEW [398 Theaters] PG13-rated
Friday $595K, Saturday $620K, Weekend $1.7M

9. Safe House (Universal) Week 7 [1,330 Theaters] R-rated
Friday $392K, Saturday $670K, Weekend $1.3M, Cume $122.5M

10. Journey 2 (Warner Bros) Week 7 [1,340 Theaters] PG-rated
Friday $310K, Saturday $638K, Weekend $1.3M, Cume $97.1M
That puts The Hunger Games at being the third biggest opening weekend beating Spider-man 3 and fifth biggest single-day beating The Dark Knight.

The sequels for this are going to be massive if this it the outcome of the first film.

islandclaws
03-25-12, 01:19 PM
Wouldn't Fahrenheit 9/11 be their biggest live-action film as it did $120 million domestically compared to The Expendables' $110 million?

I didn't count that since it's a documentary. You didn't assume that based on the fact I said "live-action"? C'mon.

Matthew Chmiel
03-25-12, 01:54 PM
I didn't count that since it's a documentary. You didn't assume that based on the fact I said "live-action"? C'mon.
Well the documentary isn't animated, so it technically is live-action.

I think the word you were looking for was "fiction?"

My Other Self
03-25-12, 02:11 PM
I wouldn't think I'd need to clarify a documentary as fiction to deem it "live-action". :lol:

d2cheer
03-25-12, 02:14 PM
There's no news on the other films currently playing in theaters. However, I heard Taylor Kitsch is mopping a floor somewhere at Disney before he has to clean up Universal.

-rolleyes-

My god that is lame. Neither movie will have any impact on his career.

Dr. DVD
03-25-12, 02:54 PM
Glad to see Hunger Games do well, but mostly because I think Jennifer Lawrence is way more deserving of attention than Kristen Stewart and a far better actress. I really hope she finds something noteworthy to do between this and the sequel , not something of a vanity project like Runaways was for Stewart (though the movie wasn't half bad and neither was Stewart as Jett, IMO).

Shannon Nutt
03-25-12, 03:03 PM
Glad to see Hunger Games do well, but mostly because I think Jennifer Lawrence is way more deserving of attention than Kristen Stewart and a far better actress. I really hope she finds something noteworthy to do between this and the sequel , not something of a vanity project like Runaways was for Stewart (though the movie wasn't half bad and neither was Stewart as Jett, IMO).

She's doing back to back movies with Bradley Cooper (one shot already, one yet to shoot) and her next release is THE HOUSE AT THE END OF THE STREET, a thriller with Elisabeth Shue due in September.

Matthew Chmiel
03-25-12, 06:34 PM
-rolleyes-

My god that is lame. Neither movie will have any impact on his career.
:lol:

Are you kidding?

If Battleship and Savages end up being failures like John Carter was, he's never going to anchor another major studio picture again.

Hokeyboy
03-25-12, 06:39 PM
:If Battleship and Savages end up being failures like John Carter was, he's never going to anchor another major studio picture again.
Perhaps, but he has never anchored another major studio movie before. And neither has 99.99% of all working actors in Hollywood. So even if he doesn't anchor a future major pic, he's still a major step up from the competition.

Schloob1
03-25-12, 06:51 PM
Oh... and just because Deadline posted it an hour ago:


That puts The Hunger Games at being the third biggest opening weekend beating Spider-man 3 and fifth biggest single-day beating The Dark Knight.

The sequels for this are going to be massive if this it the outcome of the first film.

Perhaps they will be, but in terms of the books The Hunger Games is universally considered the best of the 3 books. At least among all my friends that have read them and myself we all feel that way. But hopefully with an improved budget the remaining films can really come to life. Should be interesting to see it all unfold.

Schloob1
03-25-12, 06:54 PM
Hunger games is going to be the box office winner of the year IMHO No 3d bump and 55% of audience is over the age of 25

I'll take The Dark Knight Rises to win this year, but we'll see obviously.

Matthew Chmiel
03-25-12, 07:00 PM
So even if he doesn't anchor a future major pic, he's still a major step up from the competition.
Yeah... by going back to television.

Solid Snake
03-25-12, 07:40 PM
I'll take The Dark Knight Rises to win this year, but we'll see obviously.

yeah....I don't think any film this year is as "big" as TDKR. Especially w/ the love for TDK and Inception. I mean...for the love of christ....who the fuck thought Inception would make that much?! It was a fucking gamble for sure if you look at it on paper...but I guess people paid attention that Nolan was the director and that he could only go up for them.

Dr. DVD
03-25-12, 08:20 PM
She's doing back to back movies with Bradley Cooper (one shot already, one yet to shoot) and her next release is THE HOUSE AT THE END OF THE STREET, a thriller with Elisabeth Shue due in September.


House at the End of the Street, from looking at its stats on IMDB, seems like it should have been a straight to DVD effort. However, I have a feeling that come fall when they intend to release it, they will have Ms. Lawrence front and center in the marketing campaign.

d2cheer
03-25-12, 09:30 PM
:lol:

Are you kidding?

If Battleship and Savages end up being failures like John Carter was, he's never going to anchor another major studio picture again.

Nope not kidding you just continue to show ignorance.

superdeluxe
03-25-12, 09:33 PM
yeah....I don't think any film this year is as "big" as TDKR. Especially w/ the love for TDK and Inception. I mean...for the love of christ....who the fuck thought Inception would make that much?! It was a fucking gamble for sure if you look at it on paper...but I guess people paid attention that Nolan was the director and that he could only go up for them.

I tend to think Heath ledger's helped to drive tdk to those high levels

Gizmo
03-25-12, 10:54 PM
Glad to see Hunger Games do well, but mostly because I think Jennifer Lawrence is way more deserving of attention than Kristen Stewart and a far better actress. I really hope she finds something noteworthy to do between this and the sequel , not something of a vanity project like Runaways was for Stewart (though the movie wasn't half bad and neither was Stewart as Jett, IMO).

Just watch Stewart in 'Welcome to the Rileys'.

Solid Snake
03-25-12, 11:56 PM
I tend to think Heath ledger's helped to drive tdk to those high levels

yeah but the teaser got people wild for it either way.

davidh777
03-26-12, 11:19 AM
Local newscaster was giving the tease for the Hunger Games story, and said that the box-office success proves that "the odds are even in its favor." Apparently he misread his script and isn't familiar with the book or movie. :lol:

Ash Ketchum
03-26-12, 11:53 AM
Interesting article in The New York Times today on the HUNGER GAMES phenomenon:
'Hunger Games' Breaks Box-Office Records (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/movies/hunger-games-breaks-box-office-records.html?_r=1&ref=arts)

However, these paragraphs struck me as particularly foreboding:

Lionsgate, until now mostly known for the defunct “Saw” franchise and for distributing Tyler Perry’s movies, pursued “The Hunger Games” as part of a strategy — set by its former movie chief, Joe Drake — of taking on more ambitious films for bigger box-office payoffs. Mr. Drake, who was replaced at the studio in January but has remained to see “The Hunger Games” to fruition, was understandably ebullient over the weekend as ticket results trickled in.

He wrote of the Lionsgate team in an e-mail: “I’m watching the looks on their faces as the numbers come in and they realize what they’ve accomplished — the greatest joy in the business!!!”

Another Lionsgate executive who was crucial to “The Hunger Games,” Alli Shearmur, was also replaced in recent months, a result of the studio’s acquisition of Summit Entertainment. The runaway success of “The Hunger Games” puts pressure on Jon Feltheimer, Lionsgate’s chief executive, to prevent even more of the people responsible for the biggest success in his company’s history from leaving.

Hollywood and some Wall Street investors are closely watching to see if Lionsgate can retain its chief marketing officer, Tim Palen. Mr. Palen, whose departure could prompt others to leave, has formed close ties to Ms. Collins.

Do you see what happened here? Lionsgate acquires Summit and then gets rid of the people most responsible for its own biggest success! How stupid can the suits get?!

Ranger
03-26-12, 12:35 PM
An anti-abortion drama from those nutballs who gave us Fireproof and Courageous.Pretty surprised Hunger Games did so well, I don't think I even saw a tv spot. While I saw tons of tv spots for John Carter. Happy for Lionsgate and esp. that non-3D movie still can do so well.

The October Baby imdb board is pretty interesting. I see some comments there about a Lionsgate conspiracy to release Hunger Games at the same time as October Baby to 'distract young people from God's message' etc.

DRG
03-26-12, 12:53 PM
The October Baby imdb board is pretty interesting. I see some comments there about a Lionsgate conspiracy to release Hunger Games at the same time as October Baby to 'distract young people from God's message' etc.

:lol: Yeah, I'm sure they let the decision of when to open their most important release ever be solely decided by when they could put the screws to some Christian film 99% of the population has never ever heard of.

Obi-Wan Jabroni
03-26-12, 12:59 PM
People still use the IMDb boards?

Matthew Chmiel
03-26-12, 01:02 PM
The October Baby imdb board is pretty interesting. I see some comments there about a Lionsgate conspiracy to release Hunger Games at the same time as October Baby to 'distract young people from God's message' etc.
:lol:

I also love the fact that October Baby saw a limited theatrical release in the <s>South</s> Biblebelt last October and it came and went with no fanfare and $100,000 under its belt over the course of three weeks.

It wasn't until Provident Films (the masterminds behind Facing the Giants, Fireproof and Courageous) picked up the film to distribute AGAIN promising the filmmakers a 390 location count rather than 14.

Here's a fantastic review (http://www.salon.com/2012/03/23/october_baby_the_abortion_war_hits_theaters/singleton/) regarding the flick, but some gems for those who don't want to read the entire thing:

The Erwins, who seem to be an all-in-one moviemaking enterprise — they co-directed and co-produced, Jon co-wrote the screenplay (with Theresa Preston) and shot the film, and Andrew was the editor — get right to the point. Within the first 15 minutes, we learn that Hannah has an alarming history of physical and psychological ailments, ranging from epilepsy to asthma to repeated joint surgeries to an unspecified mental disorder. Her shaggy, stern, outdoorsy-looking doctor dad (John Schneider) and perpetually concerned mom (Jennifer Price) inexplicably choose a visit to Hannah’s doctor to break the big news: She was so ill as a child because she was born ultra-prematurely, at 24 weeks gestation. Oh, and she’s adopted; they’ve been meaning to tell her that. Oh, and she was abandoned by her birth mother because she was, and I quote, “the survivor of a failed abortion.”

:lol:

Hannah does indeed find her birth mom, who’s now a BMW-driving lawyer, and pulls some high-grade passive-aggressive forgiveness on her. There’s one pretty good joke, and here it is: When Jason challenges Hannah to reveal her “wild side,” she protests: “I know you think I’m a Christian home-schooling freak! But I have a wild side! You’ve seen me play Scrabble!”

No truer line is uttered in “October Baby” than when Hannah tells Jason that her father is scary, and he agrees. Tyrannical, hot-tempered and unreasonable, Schneider’s character looks and acts like the Old Testament God, and the other people in the tale tend to give him as wide a berth. In your typical independent film, the mean dad has to be taken down a peg — sobered or bereaved or otherwise humbled into being an object of compassion. But you can’t challenge the authority of fatherhood or its underlying scriptural basis in this kind of movie, of course, so Dad remains an arrogant and abusive jerk almost all the way through, and Hannah (although technically an adult) always gets back in the car when he tells her to. That whole aspect of “October Baby” creeped me out a lot more than the blood-curdling failed-abortion story did, honestly. I’ve seen a lot of movies where crazy and impossible things happen, and you just have to roll with them. Real life is much more frightening.

rotfl

Ah, fuck <s>religion</s> Christianity.

Solid Snake
03-26-12, 04:30 PM
People still use the IMDb boards?

dumb fucks usually...or masachists. They could also be thrown in the dumb fuck category possibly.

davidh777
03-26-12, 04:42 PM
As much as they've changed the site over the years, I don't think they've touched those boards. Something usable would be a good start. They could actually be a good resource considering how many people use (or used to use) IMDb. I've migrated to wikipedia myself.

Solid Snake
03-26-12, 05:00 PM
Yeah. Wikipedia for me. Fuck IMDB.

Double_Oh_7
03-26-12, 05:05 PM
I'll take The Dark Knight Rises to win this year, but we'll see obviously.

No way... The Avengers for the win. TDKR doesn't have half the buzz The Dark Knight had.

Matthew Chmiel
03-26-12, 06:09 PM
No way... The Avengers for the win. TDKR doesn't have half the buzz The Dark Knight had.
Warner really hasn't done much advertising per say with TDKR as people know that its coming and its still four months away. The Avengers has its worldwide release in less than an a month and the domestic release a week later.

The Avengers will not outgross TDKR. While it's a packed house of superheroes, a lot of your average moviegoers don't know a majority of them. When I saw The Hunger Games at midnight, the schmuck next to me asked his girlfriend, "Who is Scarlett Johansson supposed to be?" That's not a good sign considering Iron Man 2 is Marvel's highest grossing film based upon who's in the flick.

I'm assuming we will see the final trailer to TDKR with Dark Shadows. That's when the advertising blitz will begin.

starman9000
03-26-12, 06:15 PM
People still use the IMDb boards?

The only use I've found for them is when an actor reminds me of someone but I can't quite place it. There is almost always a "Looks just like....." thread to put my mind at ease. :)

Defiant1
03-26-12, 07:58 PM
No way... The Avengers for the win. TDKR doesn't have half the buzz The Dark Knight had.

Nope, I don't see The Avengers taking the B.O. crown. The grosses for Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, and The Incredible Hulk range from very good (Iron Man 2) to decent but not spectacular (the other three). I'm sure TA will do very well ($300M domestic is quite attainable) but it doesn't quite have enough to be the champ. That being said, I do not expect TDKR to beat its predecessor's $533M domestic total either.

auto
03-26-12, 08:43 PM
TDKR will be lucky to hit 400 mil, 300 mil for The Avengers. Where The Hunger Games will end up is a mystery to me.

Michael Corvin
03-26-12, 08:44 PM
It doesn't help that none of the solo Marvel films(outside of the original Iron Man) have really had that positive word of mouth, or critical acclaim to make them more than just opening weekend successes. I somehow doubt a movie starring all of them will suddenly blow those out of the water.

Michael Corvin
03-26-12, 08:48 PM
Where is all this TDKR doubt come from? Spider-man 3 came off the then #1 comic movie of all time with mediocre reviews and bad word of mouth and still managed to basically match the BO for SM2.

I don't think TDKR can match TDK's BO, I think it has the potential to come close, given that it's the closing chapter.

Artman
03-26-12, 09:16 PM
I could see 450m for Batman, 400+ for Hunger Games, 350 for Avengers...

davidh777
03-26-12, 09:31 PM
Well, duh.

Iron Man/IM2 $897M
Hulk $135M
Captain America $177M
Thor $181M

The Avengers stars them all so it will gross roughly $1.4 billion

Dragon Tattoo
03-26-12, 10:00 PM
The schmuck next to me asked his girlfriend, "Who is Scarlett Johansson supposed to be?" That's not a good sign considering Iron Man 2 is Marvel's highest grossing film based upon who's in the flick.

I'm sorry, is this man a "schmuck" because he doesn't know who a comic book character is?

arminius
03-27-12, 07:15 AM
I'm sorry, is this man a "schmuck" because he doesn't know who a comic book character is?

He is on a higher plane of existence than those of us who do not know every obscure sidekick or evil villain of the (DC or Marvel) universe. Though I am hoping for an appearance of Jeb Stuart's M3 in The Avengers.

Dr. DVD
03-27-12, 08:56 AM
FWIW, Hunger Games actually made $2.5 million less than they thought. Still the third highest opening of all time, Mr. Potter now has a more comfortable lead.

davidh777
03-27-12, 10:23 AM
He is on a higher plane of existence than those of us who do not know every obscure sidekick or evil villain of the (DC or Marvel) universe. Though I am hoping for an appearance of Jeb Stuart's M3 in The Avengers.

I didn't know who Maria Hill was. :sad:

But I do get your Haunted Tank reference! :banana:

Matthew Chmiel
03-27-12, 01:14 PM
I'm sorry, is this man a "schmuck" because he doesn't know who a comic book character is?
If you first mention, "Oh man, I'm excited for this!" and then ask, "Who is Scarlett Johansson supposed to be?" You're a schmuck.

I'm not real familiar with Marvel outside of the film properties and the Spider-man and X-Men cartoon series from the 1990s. I've only seen Iron Man 2 once and that was during its theatrical run despite the Blu-ray sitting a few feet away from me.

You know I know she's playing Black Widow? BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ADHD AND I CAN PAY ATTENTION AND SIT STILL DURING A MOVIE.

:)

Dragon Tattoo
03-27-12, 02:49 PM
If you first mention, "Oh man, I'm excited for this!" and then ask, "Who is Scarlett Johansson supposed to be?" You're a schmuck.

I'm not real familiar with Marvel outside of the film properties and the Spider-man and X-Men cartoon series from the 1990s. I've only seen Iron Man 2 once and that was during its theatrical run despite the Blu-ray sitting a few feet away from me.

You know I know she's playing Black Widow? BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ADHD AND I CAN PAY ATTENTION AND SIT STILL DURING A MOVIE.

:)

Yes, that must be why you know who Black Widow, one of the most obscure Marvel characters to anyone who doesn't have a PHD in comics, is (even though, in IM2 they at NO POINT call her "Black Widow").

Perhaps he's simply excited for the actual heroes (Iron Man, Thor, Captain America) that normal people have heard of and are familiar with?

Or maybe he, like most people who are going to see this, simply likes Iron Man and could give less than a care who the other characters are?

No, that couldn't be it.

RichC2
03-27-12, 03:03 PM
Hype is much lower for TDKR than it was for TDK -- The Joker was a huge seller in that one (I disagree that Ledger's death substantially boosted box office sales, The Joker is one of the most famous villains in comics and there was a lot of interest in seeing what would be done with him). However, I also don't see The Avengers doing overly amazing numbers, despite it having a lot of popular characters, individually they've all sort of worn thin, together I just see a giant meh. It'll still probably gross over $250m domestic which is phenomenal but still, meh.

TDKR will probably pull in the higher $200s domestic.

I think Hunger Games may actually have this year, domestic.

Mr. Cinema
03-27-12, 03:10 PM
No one thinks The Amazing Spider-Man has any chance of winning the year? I know it's an all new cast/crew, but it's still Spider-Man.

If The Hunger Games wins the year, that's got to be the first time that happened with a March release.

RichC2
03-27-12, 03:16 PM
Spider-man 3 destroyed all my good will toward Spider-man, add in iffy teasers, and general super hero fatigue and I don't think it has a chance at winning the year. I almost think Snow White and the Huntsman has a better shot, but that's mostly due to Alice in Wonderland being such a huge financial surprise ($334m domestic/$1.024b Worldwide.)

Mr. Cinema
03-27-12, 03:22 PM
I'm the opposite. I'm looking forward to the new Spider-Man and I'm a much bigger fan of Garfield than I am Maguire. Plus, snaggle tooth isn't in the film. That has to count for something.

Matthew Chmiel
03-27-12, 03:24 PM
Hype is much lower for TDKR than it was for TDK -- The Joker was a huge seller in that one (I disagree that Ledger's death substantially boosted box office sales, The Joker is one of the most famous villains in comics and there was a lot of interest in seeing what would be done with him). However, I also don't see The Avengers doing overly amazing numbers, despite it having a lot of popular characters, individually they've all sort of worn thin, together I just see a giant meh. It'll still probably gross over $250m domestic which is phenomenal but still, meh.

TDKR will probably pull in the higher $200s domestic.

I think Hunger Games may actually have this year, domestic.
Next weekend will determine where The Hunger Games will end up based upon its second weekend drop. If it suffers a 55% drop or more, similar to the Twilight films, it'll have issues crossing the $300 million mark. If the drop is less, I don't see it having issues crossing $350 million if not more. It all depends if viewers come back for repeat viewings, but also if those unfamiliar with the novels come based upon WOM. It loses most, if not all, its IMAX theaters come Thursday night too.

No one thinks The Amazing Spider-Man has any chance of winning the year? I know it's an all new cast/crew, but it's still Spider-Man.
If Sony allowed Raimi and Maguire to right the wrongs of Spider-man 3, then yes. The film would've had a shot at winning the year.

From people familiar with the comics to those who are not, I hear the same thing repeated each time. "Why are re-telling the same story?" We've already had our origin film less than eleven years ago. Why go back to the well and do the same, exact thing again? If they took a new cast and implemented them into the story that Raimi and company already built, I get that. To reboot the franchise from scratch is stupid. Especially as, again, it's been a decade or so since the first film came out.

davidh777
03-27-12, 03:27 PM
^I know a couple people (adults) who have seen it twice already. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Matthew Chmiel
03-27-12, 03:29 PM
^I know a couple people (adults) who have seen it twice already. It will be interesting to see what happens.
My wife wants to see it again, but specifically in D-BOX (because she needs to go for the gimmick just like how we saw it in IMAX).

Thankfully the only theater in town with D-BOX allows us to use MoviePass... so...

MOVIEPASS! :D

Dr. DVD
03-27-12, 03:30 PM
Yes, that must be why you know who Black Widow, one of the most obscure Marvel characters to anyone who doesn't have a PHD in comics, is (even though, in IM2 they at NO POINT call her "Black Widow").

Perhaps he's simply excited for the actual heroes (Iron Man, Thor, Captain America) that normal people have heard of and are familiar with?

Or maybe he, like most people who are going to see this, simply likes Iron Man and could give less than a care who the other characters are?

No, that couldn't be it.

Not again...

RichC2
03-27-12, 03:32 PM
True, we'll know by Friday to be sure - New Moon (the biggest opener in the Franchise) dropped 75.6% from Friday-to-Friday ($72.7m opening Friday, $17.7m following Friday) and wound up with a $296m domestic total.

Of course, it was released on the Friday after Thanksgiving and Midnight showings make it tough to tell how successful the actual Friday was.

New Moon's opening weekend: $72.7m ($26.3m Midnight, $46.4m Day), $42.3m, $27.8m
Hunger Games opening weekend: $67.2m ($19.7m Midnight, $47.6m Day), $50.4m, $34.8m

Already looks to be a little less front loaded, but we'll see.

superdeluxe
03-27-12, 04:14 PM
10.8 Monday. Tracking very good to comparative movies. Still to early to tell what kind of legs this thing has though.

And just by the Saturday and Sunday Drops, we can already see it is not as front-loaded as the Twilight Franchise. If it can do between 64-70 million + next weekend, we are talking a 400+ million movie.

Dr. DVD
03-27-12, 04:30 PM
10.8 Monday. Tracking very good to comparative movies. Still to early to tell what kind of legs this thing has though.

And just by the Saturday and Sunday Drops, we can already see it is not as front-loaded as the Twilight Franchise. If it can do between 64-70 million + next weekend, we are talking a 400+ million movie.

I expect Games to do better than the average movie during this week. I am almost certain they timed its release to coincide with a lot of Spring Breaks from the public school systems.

starman9000
03-27-12, 08:54 PM
FWIW I just got back from the Hunger Games and I'd say it was a pretty good crowd for a 5 o'clock Tuesday show. There were even some super fans with shirts on that cheered after.