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SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:01 PM
As we're heading into summer, my neighbor start to ride his Harley to work every morning. He first started riding it every morning at 6:30am. The fucker is so loud that I'm pretty sure houses four or five down the road would have heard it let alone I'm right next to it. I've sent him a letter through the mail asking him to stop and telling him about the city noise ordinance. He then replied with a printing of city ordinance highlighting the section describing "harassment". The city's noise ordinance prohibit any use of machinery that cause loud noise from 10pm to 7am. So the fucker now just leave home at 7:01am every morning. Of course, now he's within the law, is there really nothing I can do? I work night-shifts, thus usually don't get home until 1am.

riotinmyskull
03-22-12, 02:02 PM
if he's obeying the law (now) then you just have to deal with having a shitty neighbor.

RunBandoRun
03-22-12, 02:04 PM
Kill him. Sell Harley. Problem solved. :D

TomOpus
03-22-12, 02:05 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/20k4okw.jpg

TomOpus
03-22-12, 02:06 PM
if he's obeying the law (now) then you just have to deal with having a shitty neighbor.Who is now pissed off and is looking for a way to retaliate.

Rockmjd23
03-22-12, 02:07 PM
Call your local one-percenter motorcyle club and tell them there's this guy on your street bragging about wearing their patches without being a member. They will take care of the rest.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:07 PM
if he's obeying the law (now) then you just have to deal with having a shitty neighbor.

Damn it, I'm not going to get 50 posts of this am I?

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:08 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/20k4okw.jpg

Trust me, the fucker is so loud this won't work.

cungar
03-22-12, 02:09 PM
As we're heading into summer...

Isn't this the beginning of Spring?

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:10 PM
Isn't this the beginning of Spring?

But nevertheless heading into summer. The temp recently have felt more like summer than anything else.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 02:12 PM
He actually waits until 7:01 because you asked him to? Seriously, what more do you want?

I mean, I'd hate it if my neighbor got one of those things. I hate it when they even pull up next to me on the road they are so loud. But what more can you really ask for? And how late do you sleep in?

Honestly, I'd thank him for waiting until 7 and try to get on speaking terms. It will take a while to establish a level of trust that allows you to push the thing off a cliff without being a primary suspect.

Tarantino
03-22-12, 02:14 PM
He actually waits until 7:01 because you asked him to? Seriously, what more do you want?

I mean, I'd hate it if my neighbor got one of those things. I hate it when they even pull up next to me on the road they are so loud. But what more can you really ask for? And how late do you sleep in?

He said he doesn't get home from work until around 1am. Which means probably 2am to actually get to sleep. Factoring in 6/7 hours would wake him up (normally) at around 8/9.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 02:16 PM
That sucks, but it also sucks that biker dude has to get somewhere early.

I'd be in favor of banning those noisy pieces of crap. But since they're legal, the best you can ask for is for him to obey the ordinance.

The noise ordinance won't let you mow your lawn when you get home from work late, which was the only plan remaining.

RunBandoRun
03-22-12, 02:16 PM
Call your local one-percenter motorcyle club and tell them there's this guy on your street bragging about wearing their patches without being a member. They will take care of the rest.

rotfl

/thread

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:16 PM
Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less if he wants to ride it during the day time. I guess I'm just saying 7am isn't day time to me. I sleep til 9am.

The Cow
03-22-12, 02:17 PM
Get a day job. As much as you'd like, the world doesn't revolve around you.

Seriously, it may be annoying to you, but he's not doing anything wrong.

Or get him a job where you work and you can ride together. :eyebrow:

RunBandoRun
03-22-12, 02:18 PM
Get a day job.

Seriously, it may be annoying to you, but he's not doing anything wrong.

I kind of agree. I mean, the guy has to get to work. I'm assuming he starts it up and drives off, right? He doesn't sit there revving it for five or ten minutes.

P.S. Bias disclosure: Sgt Honeylamb has a motorcycle, although it's not a Harley and not nearly as loud as one.

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 02:18 PM
Call your local one-percenter motorcyle club and tell them there's this guy on your street bragging about wearing their patches without being a member. They will take care of the rest.

This is a good solution.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:19 PM
I kind of agree. I mean, the guy has to get to work. I'm assuming he starts it up and drives off, right? He doesn't sit there revving it for five or ten minutes.

Oh but he does. Not 5 minutes, rev it at least 10 times before heading off.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 02:19 PM
Before we can advise on "what you can do," we need to know what you would like to have happen. You want him to drive another vehicle in the morning? You want him to walk it down the street before firing it up? You want a different muffler on the thing? What?

islandclaws
03-22-12, 02:21 PM
Well, it would seem your only real recourse here is to whine about it on an internet forum.

No, there's nothing you can do. If he's compliant with the law the best you can hope for is that he gets hit and killed, or his bike is somehow "mysteriously" destroyed.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:21 PM
That's what I'm asking. What ARE the options, if any at all. I thought about going to the police, but I'm pretty sure they'll just laugh their ass off.

The Valeyard
03-22-12, 02:22 PM
You asked him to observe the city noise ordinance. He complied. You won.

Congratulations!

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:23 PM
No, there's nothing you can do. If he's compliant with the law the best you can hope for is that he gets hit and killed, or his bike is somehow "mysteriously" destroyed.

Alright fine. thanks.. point taken. /thread

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 02:24 PM
What about earplugs? White noise? Is your bedroom at the front of the house? Can you sleep in a back bedroom?

arminius
03-22-12, 02:27 PM
I think there are laws on how loud a vehicle can be. You can't just drive around with open headers. I would check the traffic laws about that kind of stuff.

TomOpus
03-22-12, 02:31 PM
I take it you two don't get along since you sent your neighbor a letter through the mail instead of dropping it off. The police won't help since he's within the law. It's just an unfortunate pairing of you getting home from work late and him riding a Harley to work early.

They do make pretty strong earplugs. Might give them a try at least.

And since you're at a stand-off, legally, I'd go ahead and tell him he can go back to 6:30am take-off time. At this point it doesn't really matter and maybe he won't rev the engine so much.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 02:32 PM
What ARE the options, if any at all.

This is part of the problem with nobody knowing their neighbors these days. There is no good solution right now.

Ideally, you go talk to the guy and tell him you're the $&%*&# who sent him the letter and that you appreciate him waiting until 7.

Honestly, it would piss anyone off if they took the time to find the ordinance and MAILED a letter, when you live right next door and could have said something to his face. I understand the desire to avoid confrontation and that would be a lame interaction if you are essentially strangers.

So yeah... not many good options at this point.

4KRG
03-22-12, 02:34 PM
:lol: my bike is no where near as loud as the typical Harley, but I am sure my neighbors don't like the sound of it. Good thing I am not an early riser, mine is rarely fired up before 8:00am

It's legal, I don't think your 'noise ordinance' applies to a vehicle that is started and driven away (it may apply to him reeving the engine 10 times, but he is DUMB ASS for doing that to a cold engine any way)

My neighbors do shit that annoys me too, so we are even. Other people suck and you are always perfect, nothing you can do but move away from everyone :D

or maybe soundproof in some way or get a day job. You can't stop a guy from starting his legal personal vehicle in front his house before driving to work... (at that point, you really become the asshole)

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 02:35 PM
Honestly, it would piss anyone off if they took the time to find the ordinance and MAILED a letter, when you live right next door and could have said something to his face. I understand the desire to avoid confrontation and that would be a lame interaction if you are essentially strangers.

Wouldn't he already know who the OP is since he responded to the OP's letter? I mean did the OP rent a PO Box to cover his tracks?

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 02:41 PM
Actually WTF was the OP thinking? Sending a letter? With a copy of the noise ordinance? I would have throw it in the trash and kept doing what I was doing. You're lucky this guy moved his bike time up a half-hour.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:43 PM
The printout I got from the fucker was left in my mailbox with no envelope. It's clearly left by him. Now I don't know if he knows the letter came from me. My guess is that he left one in all houses around him.

The thing that really pissed me off about this whole thing is the idea that somebody's ego and is so self absorbed that he needs a bike that makes VERY loud noise and a complete disregard for everybody else. Fuck, when my dog bark even just once I call her in. Every single time. I don't leave her out in the yard if I'm not home.

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 02:45 PM
That doesn't explain why you didn't just go over and talk to the guy.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:45 PM
Actually WTF was the OP thinking? Sending a letter? With a copy of the noise ordinance? I would have throw it in the trash and kept doing what I was doing. You're lucky this guy moved his bike time up a half-hour.

I don't particularly enjoy the idea of confronting a guy twice my size.

Dr Mabuse
03-22-12, 02:45 PM
There are such laws about how loud a vehicle can be. This stuff has affected plenty of people and action has been taken. City, county and state laws, as well as the EPA's 'stamp' thing about motorcycle exhaust pipes. Basically there is a federal EPA law that states exhaust systems must meet noise requirements, and pollution requirements, when sold. The aftermarket pipes for motorcycles that are loud violate the pollution and the noise aspects, so cities are enforcing the stamp as law to give citizens a recourse to stop this kind of shit form aftermarket pipes. Quite a few cities, including major cities, have adopted the EPA stamp thing, as well as passed city laws as a recourse against infantile punks who think their loud pipes make them look cool.

First you should research exactly what kind of laws are already on the books about noise, noise pollution, and car/motorcycle exhaust in your area and state. You may well be surprised to find there are already laws and regulations in place you can pursue with the police. You can certainly take your example, of this childish neighbor you have, to your city council and lobby to have the EPA stamp thing made law. You would probably find most on the council would agree with you.

TomOpus
03-22-12, 02:46 PM
Have you talked to the other neighbors about him?

kd5
03-22-12, 02:51 PM
Actually, 6:30 seems like a pretty good time to get up and take a leak, then you can go back to bed knowing you've taken care of two things instead of just one...:) -kd5-

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:52 PM
Thanks Dr. Mabuse, it's very helpful. I'll get right on it.

No I have not talked to my neighbor about this.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 02:55 PM
The printout I got from the fucker was left in my mailbox with no envelope.

Aha! Now you have him breaking the law (I think). You can't go into other people's mailboxes! That's the property of the US Postal Service.

The Valeyard
03-22-12, 02:57 PM
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Dr Mabuse
03-22-12, 02:57 PM
Thanks Dr. Mabuse, it's very helpful. I'll get right on it.

No I have not talked to my neighbor about this.

Just found this with a quick google, might be of some help. There's a section on motorcycles: http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/drmabuse06/Forum%20comments/link.gif (http://www.noisefree.org/motorcycles.php)

DVD Josh
03-22-12, 02:58 PM
I don't particularly enjoy the idea of confronting a guy twice my size.

I was going to post that you were a coward, but you did it for me.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 02:58 PM
Aha! Now you have him breaking the law (I think). You can't go into other people's mailboxes! That's the property of the US Postal Service.

Yeah, I thought about that, but that's like my neighbor peed in my wife's butt and all I got on him is trespassing.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 03:00 PM
I was going to post that you were a coward, but you did it for me.

Hey call me any name you want. I couldn't care less. If I can get even just one remotely helpful advise, I can be Nancy. Stranger on the internet.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 03:02 PM
Helpful advise: Get over it, or move.

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 03:09 PM
I don't particularly enjoy the idea of confronting a guy twice my size.

Why does it have to be a confrontation? Go over and talk to the guy like a person. Hey, I work nights, your bike is loud, anything we can do about this? I doubt this guy is going to beat you up for that, and if he does, well, you can sue him and take the bike.

Really it's a win-win.

Bandoman
03-22-12, 03:12 PM
Kill him.

majorjoe23
03-22-12, 03:26 PM
Stick a banana in his tail pipe.

TomOpus
03-22-12, 03:29 PM
Stick a banana in his tail pipe.I don't think they're there yet :D

The Valeyard
03-22-12, 03:31 PM
Waiting for SuperJim's neighbor to start a Thread titled: "My douche neighbor gets home at 1am and wakes me up every night. What can I do?"

TomOpus
03-22-12, 03:35 PM
Kill him.

Kill him.You two really ARE soulmates :)

Shannon Nutt
03-22-12, 03:46 PM
I've sent him a letter through the mail asking him to stop and telling him about the city noise ordinance. He then replied with a printing of city ordinance highlighting the section describing "harassment".

:lol: Your neighbor is freakin' awesome. You should lay off the dude.

Bandoman
03-22-12, 03:51 PM
You two really ARE soulmates :)

We are right-thinking people. :up:

arminius
03-22-12, 03:54 PM
Get one of these and when you get home from work...


http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2010/03/500x_huge_camaro_blower-500px.jpg

Kurtie Dee
03-22-12, 04:09 PM
If the dude waits until 7AM now to leave, it means he <i>changed his work schedule</i> for you. Bring him a pie.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 04:18 PM
With handmade frosting that I squirted on? I see what you're getting at. Good idea.

JayDerek
03-22-12, 04:56 PM
Have you talked to the other neighbors about him?

no...better yet, send the neighbors all a letter

Dash
03-22-12, 04:58 PM
Im not sure what more you want. you pointed out that he was not following the noise ordinace so he went ahead and started leaving later. As far as being loud. Really part of it is for his own safety. When riding around in something that small its hard to be seen. It can be helful to be heard as well as seen.

mbs
03-22-12, 05:16 PM
You could take up motorcycle riding to and from work. But then with your work hours you would be violating the law (while he isn't).

cpgator
03-22-12, 05:21 PM
Breaking the law or not, revving up the harley 10 times in the driveway is a asshole move and he should be kicked in the nuts.

Lt Ripley
03-22-12, 06:20 PM
Breaking the law or not, revving up the harley 10 times in the driveway is a asshole move and he should be kicked in the nuts.


I'd be willing to bet the OP greatly exaggerated that bit. He moved his departure to 7am to appease the whiner that doesn't have the balls to talk to him face to face. He probably gives it a couple little throttles right before he leaves his driveway.

SuperJim88
03-22-12, 06:24 PM
Like I said, call me coward, whiner, chicken all you want. 10 times is no exaggeration.

Lt Ripley
03-22-12, 06:31 PM
Like I said, call me coward, whiner, chicken all you want. 10 times is no exaggeration.

Did he rev it 10 times prior to the note?

Buy a box fan. That's what I did when I worked nights. I couldn't hear the redneck trucks and bikes after that.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 06:31 PM
Hire a mentally handicapped person to stand near his bike at 7am and when he starts it up the person has to run around in front of the guy screaming and crying out "the noise! Can't handle the noise! Mean mean man! Too much noise!"

Should easily be worth 20 bucks a day.

Also, don't do that because it's awful.

Buford T Pusser
03-22-12, 07:46 PM
There is help here:

http://bubbewisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/carnegie.jpg



or just ask if you can ride his hog.



Why doesn't the image show? Not even a red x.

Buford T Pusser
03-22-12, 07:51 PM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2011/10/7/1318020360326/Dale-Carnegie-author-of-H-007.jpg


OY. Can anyone see the image?

TomOpus
03-22-12, 07:52 PM
I only see the link and it works.

Buford T Pusser
03-22-12, 07:55 PM
I posted the link after the image didn't show. I tried out the "insert image" feature and got nuttin'.

OscarBluth
03-22-12, 07:58 PM
Carry pepper sray at all times. When you see him, wink. ;)

Buford T Pusser
03-22-12, 07:59 PM
Send him:

http://imghaven.com/images/27387

shadowhawk2020
03-22-12, 07:59 PM
How is it you aren't even on partial speaking terms with your neighbor? I mean being annoyed by a noise and then sending him the ordinance in the mail? Wow.

GMan2819
03-22-12, 08:11 PM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2011/10/7/1318020360326/Dale-Carnegie-author-of-H-007.jpg


OY. Can anyone see the image?

You have an extra http in your url. As you can see, I fixed it in my reply.

mndtrp
03-22-12, 08:19 PM
I used to have a neighbor that did this, only with VW bug that had a straight pipe out the back. He would fire it up around 6 AM, and rev it for about 10 minutes before taking off. Like you, I was sleeping from about 2 AM to 10 AM, so it was right in the middle of my night. What did I do about it, you ask? Nothing, except getting a white noise machine and taking melatonin so I could fall back asleep easily. While I've discussed early morning loudness with a few of my neighbors, and the nice old lady next door started mowing in the evening because of one of those conversations, this guy wasn't able to change his schedule. He eventually moved, and the neighborhood is relatively quiet again.

My motorcycle isn't very loud, but I try not to use the throttle much in my neighborhood. Some people just have no respect. As far as the being heard / safety nonsense, the loud exhaust doesn't do much good until you are directly next to a vehicle. Even in a blind spot, you can't really hear one of those bikes. As a rider, I pay more attention then I think most people do during the warm months, and even then I don't notice the loud exhaust from inside my car very often.

Duran
03-22-12, 08:21 PM
If I received a letter from a neighbor citing a noise ordinance as the first contact about the issue, I'd be pretty pissed off. Who does that? Is talking with another human being that difficult? Maybe explaining your situation before you threaten him with legal action?

Buford T Pusser
03-22-12, 08:24 PM
You have an extra http in your url. As you can see, I fixed it in my reply.

Thanks-when it posted it only showed one.

Marc Brobard
03-22-12, 08:27 PM
Grow a set, OP. Let us know what that changes inside you.

My Other Self
03-22-12, 08:33 PM
If I received a letter from a neighbor citing a noise ordinance as the first contact about the issue, I'd be pretty pissed off. Who does that? Is talking with another human being that difficult? Maybe explaining your situation before you threaten him with legal action?This. If you would've had the balls to actually go to his house and ask him if there was anything he could do, I bet you would've had your solution already. Instead, you send a certified letter to your next door neighbor, he accommodates your request, and you're still pissed off?

Who's exactly the bad neighbor here? :confused:

Buy a box fan. I've worked graveyard and had to sleep days. It helps.

Living Dead
03-22-12, 08:37 PM
I never understand why people are so terrified to talk to their neighbors and always leaving anonymous notes and stupid shit like that. Calmly speaking to a neighbor and letting them know about a problem doesn't automatically equal a punch in the gut or a shot in the face like so many people seem to think. And even if the guy does punch you, then you can sue him! Win win!

GMan2819
03-22-12, 11:40 PM
If I received a letter from a neighbor citing a noise ordinance as the first contact about the issue, I'd be pretty pissed off. Who does that? Is talking with another human being that difficult? Maybe explaining your situation before you threaten him with legal action?
As would I. In fact, I have been in a similar yet different situation. I live in a townhouse complex with an HOA and on pretty good terms with my neighbor. He is annoying in one way - if he has an issue with something about my townhouse, he reports it to the HOA who sends me a letter to fix the issue within X number of days or they'll start levying fines. Naturally, it pisses me off that he can't speak to me to get the issue resolved instead of having the HOA send threatening letters.

This. If you would've had the balls to actually go to his house and ask him if there was anything he could do, I bet you would've had your solution already. Instead, you send a certified letter to your next door neighbor, he accommodates your request, and you're still pissed off?


Who's exactly the bad neighbor here? :confused:

Well...the OP probably feels that the neighbor can't be that clueless about the noise and that someone who is that inconsiderate might react with belligerency as it sometimes does. We don't know the neighbor so maybe the OP's actions were right.

mhg83
03-23-12, 12:14 AM
I can help you get rid of your neighbor op. Just given me five minutes alone with him :eyebrow:

Heat
03-23-12, 12:31 AM
Write up a rant letter, supposedly from your neighbor, and leave it in everybody's mailbox including your own of course.

Something like "will the DOUCHEBAG who is complaining about my motorcycle SHUT THE HELL UP. it is MY BIKE and i will DO WHAT I WANT. dont like it? complain to the city and KISS MY ASS."

Abob Teff
03-23-12, 01:09 AM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/BkqCmVXXbk4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

It took this long to get this? It was the first thing I thought of!

To the OP's problem ... follow up on the post about the EPA stamp on exhaust. It's your only avenue beyond attempting a friendly dialogue or sucking it up. Personally, I've never understood why motorcycles and motorcyclists can get away with things that are violations of the law for other people. I suppose that is the beauty of having a powerful lobbying organization ...

hal9000
03-23-12, 05:02 AM
We had a neighbor that bought a Harley and he'd fire that thing up at the crack of dawn... the worse part was he'd let it idle in the driveway for 10 minutes before he took off. He would then drive away but never rev it until he was on the main street a few blocks away but when he did that, it was as if he was directly across the street again. He worked construction so this would always go down between 5-6am every morning.

It was a Harley, but I couldn't tell what type of bike it was, it wasn't a "chopper." Best I could describe it as would be a rockabilly 50's painted flat black with handle bars that went straight across. Still loud as fuck... nothing at all like innocent little birds chirping as the sun rises.

When he bought the bike I told my wife he's gonna get killed on that thing... I based my observation on the fact that I was pretty sure he had never ridden any type of motor bike prior to his purchase and the statistic/odds are that in Los Angeles it's pretty much a death wish. He did get his motorcycle license... but still, at 26 years old you'd better have some history of riding under your belt if you want to increase your chances of survival.

Sadly, 8 months into owning the bike he got hit by a car and became a vegetable. He spent another 8 months on life support and then his parents removed him from that and he died.

Damn, it was eerie when that went down... I hate to say I told you so, but... I told you so.

Jon2
03-23-12, 06:09 AM
Hey call me any name you want. I couldn't care less. If I can get even just one remotely helpful advise, I can be Nancy. Stranger on the internet.

It may have been better to have approached the fellow in person and express your problem in an unemotional manner. He obviously took things personally since he replied with underlined "harassment" notice.

Of course, that's easy for me (or anyone else here) to say as you know your neighbor, even as a total stranger, better than I do (or anyone else here does).

If he's revving up 10x before taking off, he's trying to send a message so your judgement (whatever it may be) of him might be correct. As the old saying goes, "Discretion is the better part of valor." Those who think otherwise usually end learning how wrong they were.

Jaymole
03-23-12, 08:17 AM
I understand the reluctance sometimes of talking to a neighbor, especially if you have had bad experiences in the past with other neighbors when confronting them. However, talking to him first and being as friendly as you can would of been the wise first step. Now, the damage is done and he might be pissed off already.

If you are on friendly terms with your other neighbors, you may want to ask them if they are having problems with the noise and see what other plan of action can be taken as a group...just don't go ahead and form a posse and try to hang him...leave that to the proper authorities.

TGM
03-23-12, 08:39 AM
call this guy

http://i.imgur.com/ezKlW.jpg

CRM114
03-23-12, 08:59 AM
As we're heading into summer, my neighbor start to ride his Harley to work every morning. He first started riding it every morning at 6:30am. The fucker is so loud that I'm pretty sure houses four or five down the road would have heard it let alone I'm right next to it. I've sent him a letter through the mail asking him to stop and telling him about the city noise ordinance. He then replied with a printing of city ordinance highlighting the section describing "harassment". The city's noise ordinance prohibit any use of machinery that cause loud noise from 10pm to 7am. So the fucker now just leave home at 7:01am every morning. Of course, now he's within the law, is there really nothing I can do? I work night-shifts, thus usually don't get home until 1am.

The guy wants to ride his Harley. Not everyone can modify their lifestyle to match your own.

That being said, I think people that ride those fucking annoying monsters are rude fucks. I can't even hear my damned car stereo on the highway when one drives by. I don't mind motorcycles but those things are way over the top in loudness.

And yes, I get the whole safety aspect of having a loud bike. I often wonder what the ears of those drivers are like.

CRM114
03-23-12, 09:01 AM
If I received a letter from a neighbor citing a noise ordinance as the first contact about the issue, I'd be pretty pissed off. Who does that? Is talking with another human being that difficult? Maybe explaining your situation before you threaten him with legal action?

People that may have a big asshole biker dude living next to them?

Personally, I'd just deal with it. That's life.

TGM
03-23-12, 09:14 AM
take up trumpet playing in your side yard at 7:01 on days he's not going to work.

majorjoe23
03-23-12, 02:27 PM
One of my neighbors had a car that was on death's door, very loud and seemed to take forever to get started in the morning. Lots of revving. I was discussing it with my next door neighbor and how it annoyed us both. I started to say "Sometimes I feel so tempted to..." and he finished my sentence "destroy it in the night?"

My actual thought was to sneak over and repair it in the middle of the night. But his option was probably cheaper.

resinrats
03-23-12, 03:05 PM
Would the city's noise ordinance law apply to a motorcycle. I'd think that would more refer to lawn mowers, stero's, work equiptment, etc. Stuff that would more or less stay in one area for a long time. Motorcycles might be loud but then they move out of range.

LurkerDan
03-23-12, 04:03 PM
So, you sent him a an anonymous letter through the mail? That was obviously a mistake. Anonymous notes don't get you anywhere. I have had people leave notes on my car re where I was parking (legal but in a place that they didn't want me to park). One woman left me a note asking me not to park in a specific spot in front of her house, and left her name and number on the note. Another note asked me not to park in a few other spots (these are sort of secret unrestricted parking spots in a restricted area), and signed the note "The Neighborhood". I complied with the first note, in part because she had the decency to give her name and number. Totally ignored the second note.

In any case, as has been pointed out, I am not even sure that the city ordinance is the relevant regulation. There are probably state laws regarding noise of vehicles. If you want to continue to be an anonymous butthead, look into those.

Navinabob
03-23-12, 04:34 PM
The guy wants to ride his Harley. Not everyone can modify their lifestyle to match your own.

That being said, I think people that ride those fucking annoying monsters are rude fucks. I can't even hear my damned car stereo on the highway when one drives by. I don't mind motorcycles but those things are way over the top in loudness.

And yes, I get the whole safety aspect of having a loud bike. I often wonder what the ears of those drivers are like.

The safety/loud pipes thing didn't sound right to me so I looked it up and it appears to be... bullshit!

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/dangerous_motorcycle_safety_myths/index.html

Myth 2: Loud Pipes Save Lives

Yeah, there are a few situationsólike where you are right next to a driver with his window down who is about the to change lanesówhere full-time noise-makers might help a driver notice you, but all that noise directed rearward doesn't do much in the most common and much more dangerous conflict where a car turns in front of you. Maybe it's the fatigue caused by the noise, maybe it's the attitudes of riders who insist on making annoying noise, or perhaps loud bikes annoy enough drivers to make them aggressive. Whatever the reason, the research shows that bikes with modified exhaust systems crash more frequently than those with stock pipes. If you really want to save lives, turn to a loud jacket or a bright helmet color, which have been proven to do the job. Or install a louder horn. Otherwise, just shut up.

Shoveler
03-23-12, 05:09 PM
The safety/loud pipes thing didn't sound right to me so I looked it up and it appears to be... bullshit!

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/streetsurvival/dangerous_motorcycle_safety_myths/index.html

Maybe it would help if the OP printed this informative article and sent it to his neighbor. Along with some catalog listings of bright and colorful jackets and helmets he think would look good on the neighbor.

I was thinking something more along the lines of the trumpet suggestion. I refuse to believe that this neighbor is awake every day of the year between the hours of 7 AM and 10 PM. I would make it my mission in life to determine his schedule, and provide payback in every legal way possible. 7:01 noises, 9:59 noises, stinking compost piles on your yard bordering his driveway, loud polka music all weekend with the speakers pointing out your windows aimed directly at his house, hire a local artist to create a panaroma of your favorite scenes from "The Golden Girls" on the side of you house facing his, put bird feeders near the border and accidentally spill large amounts of birdseed as close to his bike as possible, get as much bird crap over there as you can. All this and more. Then lock your door and peer out the window, DO NOT answer the door when he comes knocking, you wouldn't want any sort of confrontation! ;)

4KRG
03-23-12, 06:18 PM
Question for the OP

Let's assume your neighbor has to be at work at 7:30am or so

Let's assume he needs to ride his bike due to rising gas costs (or whatever, it's his bike, he is allowed to ride it to work)

What exactly would you like him to do in order to accommodate your ass backwards work schedule?? (most people work day jobs, you are the odd man out)


I am all ears to what your suggestions are?

Should he not go to work?

Should he be late everyday?

Should he purchase a quieter vehicle to accommodate your needs?

Sure I am a smart ass biker, but that aside, I am at a loss over what exactly you want that would be realistic?

even a 100% stock EPA certified exhaust is 84db (about as loud as a diesel dump truck) and would wake you up any way.

The Bus
03-23-12, 08:44 PM
Actually WTF was the OP thinking? Sending a letter? With a copy of the noise ordinance? I would have throw it in the trash and kept doing what I was doing. You're lucky this guy moved his bike time up a half-hour.

Yup.

SuperJim88
03-23-12, 11:02 PM
I find the fact that I have to defend myself quite fascinating. A person who obviously have no regard for his neighbor is justified in behaving like a child simply because his act is within the law while I'm getting called a coward, butthead, bad neighbor with no balls because I mailed a letter anonymously. His act is an annoyance EVERY morning, I'd assume for my other neighbors as well, and certainly to me, while my act is an annoyance of one instance is worst. His act is like me getting an anonymous letter every morning at 7am, while my act is an anonymous letter he can get and read it at his convenience. What I get waken up every morning is not the sound of motor, but "hey neighbors, I'm more important than you, so deal with it." I'm being told the world doesn't evolve around me when what I'm asking is for one individual to be considerate of people around him. That he's not the center of the universe. Can I have dealt with the situation with more tact? Certainly, but at the same time I wasn't willing to risk having a target behind my back. Let's be clear about one thing, I'm not the aggressor in this situation. I'm reacting to the inconsiderate REPEATED act of one individual. I'm getting labeled as an individual with a lower moral conscience than my neighbor?

What am I asking? how about something as simple as installing a muffler? I'll even offer to pay for it. I'm certain in today's day and age, we have technology to silence the excess noise. If it still makes a good amount of noise and wakes me up everyday then I'm with you, suck it up. The fact of the matter is the level of noise it currently generates is excessive. I can never tell when all my other neighbor leave or return home but him I can track like a swiss watch without even looking out the window. I'm the butthead?

Spottedfeather
03-23-12, 11:24 PM
There's this really cool thing called earplugs. There are also noise cancelling machines. Murder, famine, robbery, disease....but let's worry about a loud noise that only lasts for a few seconds. Sounds sane.

SuperJim88
03-24-12, 12:18 AM
Oh now I'm insane because I didn't think about murder victims, hungry children in Africa, convenient store clerks getting guns pointed at their head and all the diseases in the world. Obviously there is nothing in this world that bothers you in the slightest because your world view keeps you in perspective.

Am I asking you to drop all your charity works to help me resolve a petty issue? All I'm asking is a simple suggestion. And yes, I got it now. I'll suck it up but thanks for your helpful suggestion because oh I've never heard of ear plugs.

OscarBluth
03-24-12, 12:24 AM
I find the fact that I have to defend myself quite fascinating.
You don't. You're choosing to. Adding a debate to the stress of a bad neighbor won't help. I don't think everyone on badneighbors.net/other-talk-9 would share your love of DVDs. ;)

My advice: Call the cops & ask a peace officer what the law is. If he's breaking the law, report it. If not, try a friendly approach with the neighbor. With the law on your side, he has to stop. With no law on your side, you're asking him to stop something he doesn't have to stop doing. Inconsiderate neighbors suck, but being passive-agressive with a biker is not the path to quiet. Just don't call him an insane butthead with no perspective. I don't think that will help you relax.

I'll suck it up but thanks for your helpful suggestion because oh I've never heard of ear plugs.
How have you never heard of ear plugs? The ear plug salesman knocks on your door every morning at 7:01. -screwy-

Cusm
03-24-12, 12:32 AM
Check your local and state laws regarding vehicle noise, I know here certain mufflers are illegal due to noise (same as loud stereos) and I am sure most cities have some similar laws.

I would ask him nicely if he could please refrain from reving up the engine for 10 minutes since you are sleeping.


There is always pure cane in the gas tank.

TomOpus
03-24-12, 12:38 AM
What am I asking? how about something as simple as installing a muffler? I'll even offer to pay for it. In order to do this you have to prove the noise is above what is allowable by law. He's not going to do it just because you ask him.

First thing you have to do is figure out how you're going to test the noise level of his bike.

Th0r S1mpson
03-24-12, 12:57 AM
I'm the butthead?

<img src="http://www.monologuedb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Thomas-F.-Wilson-Biff-Tannen-Back-to-the-Future-150x150.jpg">

<img src="http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Blox14VlRrg/0.jpg">

GMan2819
03-24-12, 12:57 AM
In order to do this you have to prove the noise is above what is allowable by law. He's not going to do it just because you ask him.

First thing you have to do is figure out how you're going to test the noise level of his bike.
An inexpensive sound meter should do the trick. This one can send data to a PC: USB-Digital-Sound-Level-Meter (http://www.amazon.com/USB-Digital-Sound-Level-Meter/dp/B005JX2EZ2/)

LurkerDan
03-24-12, 02:55 PM
I find the fact that I have to defend myself quite fascinating. A person who obviously have no regard for his neighbor is justified in behaving like a child simply because his act is within the law while I'm getting called a coward, butthead, bad neighbor with no balls because I mailed a letter anonymously. His act is an annoyance EVERY morning, I'd assume for my other neighbors as well, and certainly to me, while my act is an annoyance of one instance is worst. His act is like me getting an anonymous letter every morning at 7am, while my act is an anonymous letter he can get and read it at his convenience. What I get waken up every morning is not the sound of motor, but "hey neighbors, I'm more important than you, so deal with it." I'm being told the world doesn't evolve around me when what I'm asking is for one individual to be considerate of people around him. That he's not the center of the universe. Can I have dealt with the situation with more tact? Certainly, but at the same time I wasn't willing to risk having a target behind my back. Let's be clear about one thing, I'm not the aggressor in this situation. I'm reacting to the inconsiderate REPEATED act of one individual. I'm getting labeled as an individual with a lower moral conscience than my neighbor?

What am I asking? how about something as simple as installing a muffler? I'll even offer to pay for it. I'm certain in today's day and age, we have technology to silence the excess noise. If it still makes a good amount of noise and wakes me up everyday then I'm with you, suck it up. The fact of the matter is the level of noise it currently generates is excessive. I can never tell when all my other neighbor leave or return home but him I can track like a swiss watch without even looking out the window. I'm the butthead?

It's always amusing when threads don't go the way the OP intended.

You way overestimate the level of his inconsiderate actions and way underestimate the level of yours. Maybe your neighbors aren't bothered, it's now obvious that you haven't talked to them. And he is getting up and going to work, and may not have even realized that others might view his actions as inconsiderate. Remember, you're the one with an abnormal schedule. I am up at 7am every weekday, as are many many people. You could have helped educate him and been a good neighbor. Instead, you wrote a very passive aggressive and anonymous note, and now say that it counts as just one instance of inconsiderateness. When in reality it doesn't count just once, because this guy now knows that he has a neighbor who will be keeping an eye on him and what he does, and will act anonymously when anything he does isn't in conformity with town ordinances. He may think about this neighbor when he's pressed for time and hasn't mowed his lawn, but may worry that the neighbor will turn him in for having grass too high. Or when he has friends over for a BBQ, he may worry that the neighbor will turn him in for a noise violation the second the clock strikes 10pm.

You are taking this so personally, both his acts and the posts of people here. I guess that's the otter way, ask for advice and ignore the advice you get. But maybe you should step back, and not think that his getting up earlier than you and driving to work is him sticking the middle finger up at everyone in the neighborhood. I doubt he thinks of it that way, he's just driving to work on his chosen vehicle. You made it personal and continue to make it personal. Hell, you can't even give the guy credit for changing his behavior based on your obnoxious note. And yes, it was obnoxious.

Troy Stiffler
03-24-12, 03:55 PM
Kill him. Sell Harley. Problem solved. :D

Scrap the Harley. Selling the Harley will surely get you caught.

You obviously never made anyone 'disappear' before.

Buford T Pusser
03-24-12, 04:04 PM
It's always amusing when threads don't go the way the OP intended.

You way overestimate the level of his inconsiderate actions and way underestimate the level of yours. Maybe your neighbors aren't bothered, it's now obvious that you haven't talked to them. And he is getting up and going to work, and may not have even realized that others might view his actions as inconsiderate. Remember, you're the one with an abnormal schedule. I am up at 7am every weekday, as are many many people. You could have helped educate him and been a good neighbor. Instead, you wrote a very passive aggressive and anonymous note, and now say that it counts as just one instance of inconsiderateness. When in reality it doesn't count just once, because this guy now knows that he has a neighbor who will be keeping an eye on him and what he does, and will act anonymously when anything he does isn't in conformity with town ordinances. He may think about this neighbor when he's pressed for time and hasn't mowed his lawn, but may worry that the neighbor will turn him in for having grass too high. Or when he has friends over for a BBQ, he may worry that the neighbor will turn him in for a noise violation the second the clock strikes 10pm.

You are taking this so personally, both his acts and the posts of people here. I guess that's the otter way, ask for advice and ignore the advice you get. But maybe you should step back, and not think that his getting up earlier than you and driving to work is him sticking the middle finger up at everyone in the neighborhood. I doubt he thinks of it that way, he's just driving to work on his chosen vehicle. You made it personal and continue to make it personal. Hell, you can't even give the guy credit for changing his behavior based on your obnoxious note. And yes, it was obnoxious.

This

chino77
03-24-12, 05:45 PM
Obviously there is nothing in this world that bothers you in the slightest because your world view keeps you in perspective.



you must not have ever read his other posts on this board. all he does is complain about people.

andicus
03-24-12, 08:25 PM
This

Yep.

Buford T Pusser
03-24-12, 08:54 PM
Yep.

That

andicus
03-24-12, 09:22 PM
That

And the other?

Cusm
03-24-12, 09:29 PM
Funny thing is if it was your neighbor's kid making noise and not a bike, the otters would be calling for you to nuke your neighbor.

Tommy Ceez
03-24-12, 10:53 PM
I find the fact that I have to defend myself quite fascinating. A person who obviously have no regard for his neighbor is justified in behaving like a child simply because his act is within the law while I'm getting called a coward, butthead, bad neighbor with no balls because I mailed a letter anonymously. His act is an annoyance EVERY morning, I'd assume for my other neighbors as well, and certainly to me, while my act is an annoyance of one instance is worst. His act is like me getting an anonymous letter every morning at 7am, while my act is an anonymous letter he can get and read it at his convenience. What I get waken up every morning is not the sound of motor, but "hey neighbors, I'm more important than you, so deal with it." I'm being told the world doesn't evolve around me when what I'm asking is for one individual to be considerate of people around him. That he's not the center of the universe. Can I have dealt with the situation with more tact? Certainly, but at the same time I wasn't willing to risk having a target behind my back. Let's be clear about one thing, I'm not the aggressor in this situation. I'm reacting to the inconsiderate REPEATED act of one individual. I'm getting labeled as an individual with a lower moral conscience than my neighbor?

What am I asking? how about something as simple as installing a muffler? I'll even offer to pay for it. I'm certain in today's day and age, we have technology to silence the excess noise. If it still makes a good amount of noise and wakes me up everyday then I'm with you, suck it up. The fact of the matter is the level of noise it currently generates is excessive. I can never tell when all my other neighbor leave or return home but him I can track like a swiss watch without even looking out the window. I'm the butthead?

You may be right in everything you just said. But walking up to someone you live next to, shaking their hand, and asking if there is anything he could do to cut down on the morning noise would make everything in this story ok

Kurtie Dee
03-24-12, 11:51 PM
The thing is, everyone is a butthead. Everyone. Because we all act in our own interests first. The superior butthead would now realize - after asking for the harsh-but-fair insights of the Otter - that the best thing to do would probably be to apologize to the neighbor for acting like a butthead, and thank him for adjusting his schedule. Then give him the pie. (No special sauce.)

JimRochester
03-25-12, 06:21 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned, I didn't read every post. Most towns still have rules against excessive noise even during daylight hours. A lot around here were enacted to combat the gopher hole tail pipes on the Fast and Furious rice burners. Maybe you can get a helpful cop that will help. Maybe you'll end up with lazy one that will say there's nothing you can do. Worth a ride down to the station to ask a sargeant.

PopcornTreeCt
03-25-12, 08:46 PM
Buy him a hoodie, then when you see him wearing it, confront him and shoot him.

Sdallnct
03-25-12, 09:01 PM
You should not have sent a letter. You should have went and talked.

Now that you have burned that bridge....you can't transfer your lifestyle to him. Your arguing he shouldn't drive a loud motorcycle is not different than others who say people shouldn't drive a Hummer (due to be gas hog, unnecessary, etc).

I can assure you he was not thinking "I'm going to get this really expensive motorcycle to just piss my neighbor off". Tho now that you have thrown down the gauntlet, he may be tempted to get a louder bike!

IMO, you don't have much choice or recourse. Even if you make nice, what would you expect to happen? No Harley rider is going to modify his bike to make it less of a Harley for you. Assuming there are no laws being broken (which you can do some more research), you need to start exploring what you can do. Sound machines, NC headphones, more insulation in your bedroom, whatever.

I use to live in a home in Arizona with incredibly strict HOA. Yes, of course I knew about the HOA when I built the house, but had no idea the zealousness of the Nazi enforcement and lack of being able to do anything to your own property without expensive time consuming process. Things like painting your front door would cost more to submit the request than to paint the door with no guarantee it would be approved. Not being allowed to change a dead bush for a different type of bush without permission, etc, etc..... my solution? I moved.

Rockmjd23
03-25-12, 10:23 PM
Thread did not go according to plan.

Deadman31
03-25-12, 11:06 PM
kill the biker and rape his harley.

EdTheRipper
03-25-12, 11:14 PM
Thread did not go according to plan.

My favorite type of thread.

Dean Kousoulas
03-25-12, 11:47 PM
My favorite type of thread.

Any time you see a thread about a Motorcycle noise reach 5 pages, you know you're in for a treat.

Jaymole
03-26-12, 08:50 AM
Thread did not go according to plan.

Yes, which is why I am now having second thoughts about posting my thread seeking advice, (and sympathy), on how to handle my crazy neighbor who won't stop calling the police when I peek into her bathroom window.

RocShemp
03-26-12, 08:52 AM
Yes, which is why I am now having second thoughts about posting my thread seeking advice, (and sympathy), on how to handle my crazy neighbor who won't stop calling the police when I peek into her bathroom window.

If she's hot, she's a fucking prude.

CRM114
03-26-12, 09:25 AM
But maybe you should step back, and not think that his getting up earlier than you and driving to work is him sticking the middle finger up at everyone in the neighborhood. I doubt he thinks of it that way, he's just driving to work on his chosen vehicle. You made it personal and continue to make it personal.

I don't buy this. Part of the allure of choosing a Harley is the loud, obnoxious exhaust system. He knows exactly what he is doing and he doesn't give a fuck. Not that he needs to because Harleys and their annoying as fuck pipes are socially acceptable in the USA.

You may be right in everything you just said. But walking up to someone you live next to, shaking their hand, and asking if there is anything he could do to cut down on the morning noise would make everything in this story ok

What the dude going to do? "Oh, I'm sorry sir. I'll be sure to take my completely silent Prius to work every morning." No, he's going to say "Get the fuck out of here before I shoot you with my shotgun, fuckhead."

Not saying the letter is the proper course of action. The proper course of action is just dealing with life's bummers and moving on.

Jaymole
03-26-12, 09:52 AM
If she's hot, she's a fucking prude.

Thanks for the sympathy...maybe I should post it.

Minor Threat
03-26-12, 09:53 AM
Pic of LurkerDan:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2004/09/11/nyregion/11bikers.large1.jpg

RocShemp
03-26-12, 09:53 AM
Thanks for the sympathy...maybe I should post it.

Just be sure to include pics of your hot neighbor in the bathroom so we can determine guilt.

Trevor
03-26-12, 11:45 AM
I work night-shifts, thus usually don't get home until 1am.
I forget what the question is, as I can't get past this line. You don't work night shift if you get home before 7am.

Th0r S1mpson
03-26-12, 11:58 AM
I forget what the question is, as I can't get past this line. You don't work night shift if you get home before 7am.

That would be the graveyard shift.

Night happens long before 7am.

fumanstan
03-26-12, 12:09 PM
What am I asking? how about something as simple as installing a muffler? I'll even offer to pay for it.

How do you expect to get that far? Are you also going to keep doing this anonymously?

Jaymole
03-26-12, 12:33 PM
Just be sure to include pics of your hot neighbor in the bathroom so we can determine guilt.

I have a feeling that when I tell everyone that she is 85, the support and sympathy will drop here :(

TomOpus
03-26-12, 12:41 PM
I have a feeling that when I tell everyone that she is 85, the support and sympathy will drop here :(Dropped like her boobs did 20 years ago.

Obi-Wan Jabroni
03-26-12, 12:41 PM
That would be the graveyard shift.

Night happens long before 7am.

I agree with Trevor. To me, night shift means overnight. Anything from 3-Midnight or so is Afternoon shift. There are 3 shifts: Day Shift, Afternoon Shift, and Night Shift.

TomOpus
03-26-12, 12:45 PM
That would be the graveyard shift.

Night happens long before 7am.

I agree with Trevor. To me, night shift means overnight. Anything from 3-Midnight or so is Afternoon shift.Since we're on the subject, when I worked at a place that was operating 24 hrs here is how we broke it down:

8am-4pm = day shift
4pm-12am = night shift
12am-8am = graveyard shift

So I agree with Thor.

Sdallnct
03-26-12, 12:46 PM
I don't buy this. Part of the allure of choosing a Harley is the loud, obnoxious exhaust system. He knows exactly what he is doing and he doesn't give a fuck. Not that he needs to because Harleys and their annoying as fuck pipes are socially acceptable in the USA.


I disagree. He is not doing to be obnoxious. He enjoys it. He likes it.

People who drive Hummers don't buy one to "stick it to the tree huggers". They buy them cause they enjoy them.

starman9000
03-26-12, 12:53 PM
I disagree. He is not doing to be obnoxious. He enjoys it. He likes it.



That's not disagreeing.

RocShemp
03-26-12, 12:55 PM
I have a feeling that when I tell everyone that she is 85, the support and sympathy will drop here :(

Depends. Are we talking about a woman who like Helen Mirren and Raquel Welch never seems to age? Or a regular 85-year-old?

andicus
03-26-12, 01:49 PM
I agree with Trevor. To me, night shift means overnight. Anything from 3-Midnight or so is Afternoon shift. There are 3 shifts: Day Shift, Afternoon Shift, and Night Shift.

Likewise! Night shift to me means 'overnight.'

I've also heard 3-11 or midnight referred to as an evening shift.

Mole177
03-26-12, 02:09 PM
you addressed the neighbor about the quiet times. he complied. end of story.

he could have been an arse and start his bike @ 6am.

RunBandoRun
03-26-12, 02:14 PM
Likewise! Night shift to me means 'overnight.'

I've also heard 3-11 or midnight referred to as an evening shift.

It's the "swing" shift. Get it? For SWINGERS. :D

EDITED TO ADD that when I worked a swing shift job, the first time I heard it called that, I imagined a gathering of clarinet, snare drum, and trombone players in black tie assembled in the building lobby. :lol:

Jaymole
03-26-12, 02:33 PM
Depends. Are we talking about a woman who like Helen Mirren and Raquel Welch never seems to age? Or a regular 85-year-old?

Knowing this forum, no matter what, I'm sure people will put her looks down.....like their octogenarian gf or wife is all that!!

TomOpus
03-26-12, 02:47 PM
EDITED TO ADD that when I worked a swing shift job, the first time I heard it called that, I imagined a gathering of clarinet, snare drum, and trombone players in black tie assembled in the building lobby. :lol:Sure it wasn't that job with the airlines?

http://i42.tinypic.com/309sisj.jpg

d2cheer
03-26-12, 04:36 PM
I saw a guy driving a Harley the other day and he was wearing ear plugs. If it is too f'n loud for you on it and have ear plugs it is too fucking loud for everyone else. -ohbfrank-

If feel for you I have a neighbor with a loud Harley as well but we leave about the same time and by then everyone is already up so...not an issue for us. NOW the bastards that like to mow their fucking lawn at 7:00 AM on a Saturday...they can all fucking die. :mad:

Numanoid
03-26-12, 04:53 PM
Since we're on the subject, when I worked at a place that was operating 24 hrs here is how we broke it down:

8am-4pm = day shift
4pm-12am = night shift
12am-8am = graveyard shiftAround these parts we call them all "Coke".

superdeluxe
03-26-12, 05:00 PM
As we're heading into summer, my neighbor start to ride his Harley to work every morning. He first started riding it every morning at 6:30am. The fucker is so loud that I'm pretty sure houses four or five down the road would have heard it let alone I'm right next to it. I've sent him a letter through the mail asking him to stop and telling him about the city noise ordinance. He then replied with a printing of city ordinance highlighting the section describing "harassment". The city's noise ordinance prohibit any use of machinery that cause loud noise from 10pm to 7am. So the fucker now just leave home at 7:01am every morning. Of course, now he's within the law, is there really nothing I can do? I work night-shifts, thus usually don't get home until 1am.

He is within the law, time to get some ear plugs.

starman9000
03-26-12, 05:03 PM
Around these parts we call them all "Coke".

:lol:

TomOpus
03-26-12, 05:03 PM
Around these parts we call them all "Coke".Noooo... I'm still trying to get used to saying "Pop" -ptth-

Minor Threat
03-26-12, 05:05 PM
I saw a guy driving a Harley the other day and he was wearing ear plugs. If it is too f'n loud for you on it and have ear plugs it is too fucking loud for everyone else. -ohbfrank-

Being a motorcycle rider I can tell you the ear plugs are most likely for wind noise, not the pipe noise, but I am amused at your ignorance.....

SuperJim88
03-26-12, 05:22 PM
Being a motorcycle rider I can tell you the ear plugs are most likely for wind noise, not the pipe noise, but I am amused at your ignorance.....

He is within the law, time to get some ear plugs.

There is no wind in my bedroom. Ear plugs aren't going to do shit. Although the wife does like to talk in the bed........

Minor Threat
03-26-12, 05:32 PM
Although the wife does like to talk in the bed........

Does she talk fondly about biker guys twice your size with loud motorcycles....?

SuperJim88
03-26-12, 05:50 PM
Does she talk fondly about biker guys twice your size with loud motorcycles....?

Yes, but she said biker guys' thing are twice smaller thus needing a loud bike to compensate. I don't really care she sleeps around, as long as their things are smaller than mine.

thematahara
03-27-12, 02:05 PM
Is it really that hard to go back to sleep after the 5 seconds it takes the bike to drive by your house?

d2cheer
03-27-12, 03:45 PM
Being a motorcycle rider I can tell you the ear plugs are most likely for wind noise, not the pipe noise, but I am amused at your ignorance.....

:shrug:

Not a Harley or bike guy so what do I know... I rode mini bikes and a Honda 250 over 30 years ago. I just remember them being loud and I don't recall if I wore ear plugs.

4KRG
09-03-12, 10:39 PM
was this you OP ???

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/north/12008432400350/driver-hits-motorcyclist-flees-the-scene/

and surprise, not Florida!

JumpCutz
09-03-12, 11:24 PM
SuperJim88 is 76 years old? :eek:

DVD Polizei
09-03-12, 11:37 PM
Is it really that hard to go back to sleep after the 5 seconds it takes the bike to drive by your house?

Is it really that hard to be courteous of others. Maybe I should drop by your house and light an M80 under your bedroom window. Hell, the sound wouldn't last even 2 seconds and I'm sure you'd get back to sleep rather quickly, according to your assumptions.

thematahara
09-04-12, 11:43 AM
Is it really that hard to be courteous of others. Maybe I should drop by your house and light an M80 under your bedroom window. Hell, the sound wouldn't last even 2 seconds and I'm sure you'd get back to sleep rather quickly, according to your assumptions.


Yeah, I probably would.

mndtrp
09-04-12, 02:53 PM
I don't know about the OP, but if I've been asleep for about 4 hours, I have a hard time going back to sleep if woken up. For some reason, the 4 hour mark changes something, and I can't get back to sleep very easily.