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eXcentris
03-17-12, 08:35 PM
Been thinking about selling my car and getting a Mini. Do you own one? What's to like/not like? Are you over 6' tall? Does it feel like you are in a sardine can?

They currently have a Mini Cooper Classic Knightsbridge Edition which sounds like a good deal. It's essentially a Classic plus the following:

• Panoramic Glass Sunroof
• Heated Front Seats
• Bluetooth® & USB Audio Interface
• Dynamic Stability Control
• 3-Year/50,000 KM No-Charge Scheduled Maintenance* (I assumed this is a limited time offer)

Total cost: $25,295 + taxes

Normally you can't get a sun roof on a Classic. You'd have to upgrade to a Cooper ($2,000) and add the comfort package ($1,900).

Only thing I don't like is that it only comes in chili red and pepper white (but you can get contrasting black/white top and mirror trim).

Thoughts?

RoadToPerdition
03-17-12, 08:42 PM
Feels like you're paying more for less with these types of gimmick things. Like how smaller-sized bottles or cans of soda seem to cost more than larger-sized ones.

I have no opinion other than that because I don't have one nor have I driven one, but I couldn't see myself ever being interested in them.

4KRG
03-17-12, 08:44 PM
Thoughts?


Another 'chick' car, perfect for you :lol:

eXcentris
03-17-12, 08:47 PM
Unlike Americans, we don't need to buy pick up trucks to feel secure in out masculinity. :)

eXcentris
03-17-12, 08:49 PM
I have no opinion

That's quite obvious but thanks anyway. ;)

RoadToPerdition
03-17-12, 08:54 PM
Unlike Americans, we don't need to buy pick up trucks to feel secure in out masculinity. :)

Well there's your problem right there. A fundamental change in your thinking is needed!

4KRG
03-17-12, 09:05 PM
If the mini doesn't work out, be sure to look at a mazda miata

http://www.autousa.com/content/top-10-chick-cars.jsp

or the yellow vw beetle with some flowers in the dash ;)

I have a female employee that bought a mini about 2 years ago, she loves it and is always talking about how awesome it is (she is 5'3", so no problems with fitting in it).

Just get an automatic ;)

Raul3
03-17-12, 09:07 PM
I love the Miata and the Mini.

But I drive an Expedition. :(

RunBandoRun
03-17-12, 09:08 PM
I wouldn't want such a small car, but I see no problem with someone else having one. They look sort of cute when I see them on the road. The only thing I'd worry about is the resale value if you get sick of it and the risk to you if you're ever in an accident with some big SUV or something.

tlwizard
03-17-12, 09:09 PM
Been thinking about selling my car and getting a Mini. Do you own one? What's to like/not like? Are you over 6' tall? Does it feel like you are in a sardine can?

I drove my friend's Mini for a couple months while she was out of town. I liked it. Felt like I was driving a spaceship. Anyways, I'm 6'6" and I fit in the car very comfortably. I was really suprised that I fit.

Marc Brobard
03-17-12, 09:21 PM
My ex-girlfriend had one. Great car. Bigger inside than you'd think, and manlier than other Otters would think. Had a more than enough giddy-up when I needed it.

I'd recommend it to anyone.

ETA: (Just not the Countryman. That thing is butt-ugly and is nothing like what a Mini is supposed to be.)

Arpeggi
03-17-12, 09:33 PM
And this whole time, I thought you were a dude. FML.

GMan2819
03-17-12, 09:49 PM
What are your objectives for buying a new car? The Mini might be fun to drive but it might not be practical if it's going to be your only car. From what I've read, reliability is not very good either.

Marc Brobard
03-17-12, 10:00 PM
Also, if you do end up getting it, definitely get the contrasting top. Makes a world of difference as far as appearance goes.

RE: Reliability issues. I've not read the same things GMan2819 has.

Marc Brobard
03-17-12, 10:02 PM
Feels like you're paying more for less with these types of gimmick things. Like how smaller-sized bottles or cans of soda seem to cost more than larger-sized ones.

I have no opinion other than that because I don't have one nor have I driven one, but I couldn't see myself ever being interested in them.

I appreciate someone who lets you know right up front that he's not worth listening to on a particular subject.

:D

eXcentris
03-17-12, 10:06 PM
If the mini doesn't work out, be sure to look at a mazda miata



My brother had one. :lol:

I hated driving it. My eyes were almost level with the trim of the windshield. With the top off, it was almost more comfortable looking over the windshield.

eXcentris
03-17-12, 10:09 PM
What are your objectives for buying a new car? The Mini might be fun to drive but it might not be practical if it's going to be your only car. From what I've read, reliability is not very good either.

Getting from point A to point B. My current car isn't very practical either and I've had it since 1994. :)

The Bus
03-17-12, 10:21 PM
Hey, in Montreal a Mini <i>is</i> a masculine car. ;)

Does it have one of those Royal Mail slot hood ornaments? Because those are nice.

I like the Mini but I think you can probably do better with a different smaller / practical car.

GMan2819
03-17-12, 10:21 PM
Getting from point A to point B. My current car isn't very practical either and I've had it since 1994. :)
The point of my question was to find out what issues you were having with your current car that's making you shop for a new car and it looks like age. What are you currently driving?

eXcentris
03-17-12, 10:43 PM
The point of my question was to find out what issues you were having with your current car that's making you shop for a new car and it looks like age. What are you currently driving?

Apparently, I'm driving a chick car. :grunt:

Honda Civic Del Sol SI 1993, with 62,000 km.

I'm selling it before I have to replace something else besides the $700 clutch which apparently failed because of my bad driving.

(I should have known better than to start this thread) :lol:

Seriously, aside from the above reasons, and the fact that since spring is coming, it's probably a good time to sell my car to some unsuspecting youth who will overpay because he wants a convertible, I just decided I wanted a new car!

For the record, I don't like big cars. I don't drive much and the fewer seats and space a car has, the fewer annoying passengers and crap I have to transport. Plus with the motorcycle and all the stuff I have in my garage, a bigger car would not fit anyway.

So if anyone can think of a better option in the 25-30 grand range, by all means, I'm all ears. :)

X
03-17-12, 10:47 PM
If the mini doesn't work out, be sure to look at a mazda miata:lol:

My wife wanted a Mini and we just got a local dealership, but we decided that my coming out of it would make it look too much like a clown car.

On a similar vein, we went out today to decide between the Audi and Jaguar. I'm pretty sure Audi's winning.

eXcentris
03-17-12, 10:54 PM
On a similar vein, we went out today to decide between the Audi and Jaguar.

Coming in my thread to brag. -ohbfrank-


... ;) ...

The Bus
03-17-12, 10:57 PM
At $30K you can get a nice used 3-Series. But I'm not sure why you're spending that much on a car if you're only putting on what seems like 10 miles a year on a car. :lol:

X
03-17-12, 10:59 PM
Coming in my thread to brag. -ohbfrank-


... ;) ...I'm actually quite sad about it.

eXcentris
03-17-12, 11:09 PM
At $30K you can get a nice used 3-Series. But I'm not sure why you're spending that much on a car if you're only putting on what seems like 10 miles a year on a car. :lol:

After 20 years, why can't I get a new car. :sad:

The Bus
03-17-12, 11:27 PM
What about the BRZ/T86?

Marc Brobard
03-17-12, 11:29 PM
At $30K you can get a nice used 3-Series. But I'm not sure why you're spending that much on a car if you're only putting on what seems like 10 miles a year on a car. :lol:

I'd take a new Mini over a used 3-series any day of the week. Especially if size is a consideration, as it seems to be in this case.

Marc Brobard
03-17-12, 11:29 PM
What about the BRZ/T86?

Tanks aren't street-legal here.

OscarBluth
03-18-12, 12:21 AM
Is that new? I'd watch craigslist for a 2-3 year old model with low miles. Call your local Mini dealer (service, not sales) and ask them what warranty company is easiest for them to get approval from and buy it. Spend the rest on motorcycle toys or vacations.

Tarantino
03-18-12, 12:40 AM
I've always liked the look, but at 6'4, it isn't practical.

D.Pham4GLTE (>60GB)
03-18-12, 12:49 AM
what about an A5?

bdshort
03-18-12, 10:35 AM
I will be in the market next year for a new car, replacing my 10 year old Subaru Impreza. I was planning on a pickup like a Tacoma but with gas prices the way they are, and the fact I'd hardly ever need the pickup for its I tended purpose, I've been leaning towards another small car. One of the ones I've been interested in us the Mini Countryman, so let me know if you try a Mini and how well you fit. I'm 6'3" so definitely need something with room.

Nifty03
03-18-12, 11:07 AM
what about the brz/t86?

+1

Ky-Fi
03-18-12, 01:26 PM
I'm not a car person, but I am a cheapskate, and here's my recommendation:

http://www.suzukiauto.com/sx4_crossover/

Cheap, all wheel drive, decent gas mileage (28), rack for my kayak/skis, Japanese reliability. I've had it almost 5 years, 80k miles and other than normal maintenance I've just put a new set of tires on it and replaced the brake pads.

GoldenJCJ
03-18-12, 01:43 PM
The mini is cute, I suppose. They looked pretty neat in The Italian Job. I'd probably never own one simply because I'm fairly tall and would look a little silly driving around in one. Plus, I haven't done any research on them but I can't imagine they do very good in snowy/ icy weather.

However, if I were to get a mini, I'd probably lean toward the slightly longer Countryman. I think it looks a little less toy like.

Sdallnct
03-18-12, 02:18 PM
What about the Fiat?

http://www.fiatusa.com/abarth/images/exterior/ext_img_0.jpg

MR Round
03-18-12, 02:30 PM
I drive 3 Mini's a 2009 S, a Clubman and a Countryman they are the best cars ever I have a classic as well but I rarely drive it because it needs new seats. I have never had one break down from something that wasent my own doing(flat tires,rear ending someone, etc) and they get good gas mileage they are dependable to me which these days is a good thing and they dont cost much to fix(even the classics are cheap fixes) so deffinitly go with the Mini

Hadrian7
03-18-12, 02:50 PM
If I were to drive a girlie car, it would definitely be a Mini. Probably a Countryman too.

The Bus
03-18-12, 03:26 PM
What about the Fiat?

http://www.fiatusa.com/abarth/images/exterior/ext_img_0.jpg

The J-Lo car?

glassdragon
03-18-12, 06:18 PM
Since we're apparently talking about ugly cars, why not look at an Aztec too. You might like driving a box with wheels.

And if you decide on a mini then look on the bright side. You can probably put a penny in the back license plate and make it do wheelies.

mndtrp
03-18-12, 06:22 PM
My boss has one. He's over 6 feet tall, and he said he's very comfortable. I imagine a Mini would be great in a city. They can be pretty quick, they're small for easy parking, and some of the options can make them look kind of cool.

DVD Polizei
03-18-12, 06:47 PM
I like the CountryMan Mini from the outside...but GOD the inside instrument panels on all the Minis is what made me gag.

eXcentris
03-18-12, 11:46 PM
What about the BRZ/T86?

Not out yet and it will be priced above 30k in Canada.

what about an A5?

An Audi A5? That's over 40k

What about the Fiat?

Considered it, but I prefer the Mini

Also looked at the Mazda 3 but there's too many of them on the road and older models had rust issues. It's still to early to know if 2010+ models have the same problem.

Since we're apparently talking about ugly cars...

I've looked at a shitload of cars and I can't find a single one under 35-40k that's not ugly, bland, or just meh... At least the Mini has character ans is fun to drive.

Note: You ( as in all of you ) have to realize that Canadians tend to buy a lot more small/compact cars than Americans for a number of reasons:

http://www.driving.ca/best+selling+compact+cars/3103104/story.html

GMan2819
03-19-12, 01:22 AM
If you're rejecting the Mazda 3 because of rust issues, the Mini is even worse in that regard. At least according to Consumer Reports.

Randy Miller III
03-19-12, 07:55 AM
I've always liked the look, but at 6'4, it isn't practical.
Plus, the rear-view mirror isn't big enough.

SubZeri
03-19-12, 10:02 AM
I'm a pretty big MINI fanatic, so hopefully I can help out a bit. As expected, there is plenty of wrong information in this thread. I have a 2012 MCS with all John Cooper Works packages except the brakes.

Simply put, you cannot find another car that combines the level of unique styling, power, performance, handling, and gas mileage anywhere near the price point. Then consider that it's the last decade's king of resale value, you can hardly do better. Vibiana was way off the mark once again, as the resale value and safety are two of the MINI's strong points.

I'm 6'2" and the notion of being cramped is a myth. It's plenty roomy inside, I don't feel cramped at all. The insecure people who shout "chick car" tend to change their mind quickly and ask for the keys once they get a ride. There's a huge "they just don't get it" factor with these cars, but fortunately a few tight corners are all it takes for them to see their error. "I had no idea!" is a common post-drive sentiment among doubters.

The MINI is a "driver's car" with 50+ years of racing heritage. People who buy it because it's "cute" [it's not, it's mean as hell] and gets great mileage are pretty much missing the point.

As you can tell, I could write a thesis on the MINI, but I'll leave it at that. I did 6 years of research before buying my MINI and I could not be happier. The "smiles-per-gallon" factor is something unmatched in 99% of other marques, hands down.

j

4KRG
03-19-12, 10:27 AM
awww we ruffled someone's feathers this morning :lol:

The minis are the cutest cars ever!

SubZeri
03-19-12, 10:44 AM
Couple more notes...
Since we're apparently talking about ugly cars, why not look at an Aztec too. You might like driving a box with wheels.

And if you decide on a mini then look on the bright side. You can probably put a penny in the back license plate and make it do wheelies.

Stuff like this is unfortunate, and is the type of ignorance that most MINI owners have to put up with. Neither funny or factual. Luckily, a push of the sport button and a flick of the paddles is all it takes to put the mentally miniscule types in your rear-view mirror. I'm curious what this person's daily driver is. Lol, not really...

Sdallnct suggested the Fiat. The one in the JLo commercial is the base 500 model and is a second rate version of the regular (non-turbo) Cooper. The one in the picture is the newly released (in US anyways) Fiat Abarth, which is trying to compete with the MINI S, but it's a fraction of the real thing.


I'm not a car person, but I am a cheapskate, and here's my recommendation:
http://www.suzukiauto.com/sx4_crossover/

Unfortunately, the MINI is not a car for people who are "cheapskate, non-car people". It's for people who don't mind spending for quality, and want a ridiculously fun, totally-connected driving experience. I'm sure the OP appreciates the suggestion, but the Suzuki you mentioned isn't on the same planet as a MINI Cooper.

awww we ruffled someone's feathers this morning :lol:
The minis are the cutest cars ever!
I presume you are talking about me. No ruffled feathers, it's all good! I just love MINIs!
But, hey, if you want cute, own it! You'd look good in a Purple Haze Non-S Cabrio with some pink viper stripes! :D

Ky-Fi
03-19-12, 10:49 AM
Unfortunately, the MINI is not a car for people who are "cheapskate, non-car people". It's for people who don't mind spending for quality, and want a ridiculously fun, totally-connected driving experience. I'm sure the OP appreciates the suggestion, but the Suzuki you mentioned isn't on the same planet as a MINI Cooper.

Yes, I noticed that as my neighbor with the Mini struggled to get out of her unplowed driveway after an early-morning snowstorm last year, while I just clicked on the AWD. ;)

covenant
03-19-12, 10:51 AM
Luckily, a push of the sport button and a flick of the paddles is all it takes to put the mentally miniscule types in your rear-view mirror.

curious...how fast is a Mini 0-60?

Nifty03
03-19-12, 11:03 AM
MotorTrend Hot Hatchback Comparison (Part 2) includes a Mini

http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/hatchbacks/112_0707_hot_hatchbacks_comparison_part_2/

Ford Focus ST

http://image.motortrend.com/f/30623191+w786+ar1/2012-ford-focus-ST-front-three-quarters.jp

Opinion Piece: Knowing that every guy on DVDTalk makes well into the 6 figures and have massive genitalia (except me of course) I'm surprised how insecure some of them are and even more surprised that they admit it. :)

Mordred
03-19-12, 11:10 AM
Penn Jillette (who is around 6' 6") is a huge Mini fan and says they have plenty of room to accommodate his size.

They look like incredibly fun cars to drive.

SubZeri
03-19-12, 11:16 AM
Yes, I noticed that as my neighbor with the Mini struggled to get out of her unplowed driveway after an early-morning snowstorm last year, while I just clicked on the AWD. ;)
Quaint anecdote, but criticizing a MINI for being less than ideal in a scenario it wasn't intended for is a bit suspect, no? I could turn the tables and bash slow, gas guzzling SUVs for their inability to drag race and corner, but I wouldn't be that intentionally daft. Plus, I live in Texas, so the 15 minutes of ice we get each year is hardly a detractor for the other 364 days of the year where the grin from driving my JCW wraps around the back of my head.

curious...how fast is a Mini 0-60?
I think my JCW is in the low 6s, so it isn't the fastest car on the road, but never claimed to be. The unparalleled handling is where it's at. I have the JCW suspension and strut brace on mine and it's ridiculous. The beauty of it is when you put an S on the track against a car like a Mustang GT that has triple the displacement and the MINI S hangs with it with no effort at all since it corners like a slot car.

Shazam
03-19-12, 11:20 AM
I knew one guy on the interwebz that loved his Mini initially, but he ended up hating it because it broke down so much. But that was back in like 2004.

arminius
03-19-12, 11:24 AM
Not out yet and it will be priced above 30k in Canada.



An Audi A5? That's over 40k



Considered it, but I prefer the Mini

Also looked at the Mazda 3 but there's too many of them on the road and older models had rust issues. It's still to early to know if 2010+ models have the same problem.



I've looked at a shitload of cars and I can't find a single one under 35-40k that's not ugly, bland, or just meh... At least the Mini has character ans is fun to drive.

Note: You ( as in all of you ) have to realize that Canadians tend to buy a lot more small/compact cars than Americans for a number of reasons:

http://www.driving.ca/best+selling+compact+cars/3103104/story.html

Just be careful.


http://www.demotivation.us/media/demotivators/demotivation.us__Never-Fart-In-Mini-Cooper-.jpg

steebo777
03-19-12, 11:38 AM
I drive a 2005 MINI Cooper S. It will be 8 years old this July and have pretty much zero issues with it. A couple small things during the warranty period, but nothing to speak of. For Michigan winters, it handled and drove the snow just fine, never got stranded, stuck or spun out of control. As a matter of fact I feel safer in it than I do in my Nissan Xterra (unless I'm mudding or on the sand dunes).

All around, it is a solid car that is for the car enthusiast. I know most of the local MINIacs from the Mich MINI club, and all have no issues to speak of really. I take co-workers out all the time to show them exactly what it means to be in and drive a MINI as there are way too many misconceptions. Anyone that is 6'6" and under easily fits in it and I rarely have issues with the size of it.

An excellent car that is on the premuim side of small cars (mine was about $25k out the door in 2004 when I purchased it).

steebo777
03-19-12, 11:46 AM
If you're rejecting the Mazda 3 because of rust issues, the Mini is even worse in that regard. At least according to Consumer Reports.
I have never heard of anyone with rust issues at all. There was one small welding point in the gen1 MINIs that had surface rust on occasion, but nothing ever really came of it. Plus it is 100,000mile/10yr coverage for any rust.

Ky-Fi
03-19-12, 11:48 AM
Quaint anecdote, but criticizing a MINI for being less than ideal in a scenario it wasn't intended for is a bit suspect, no? I could turn the tables and bash slow, gas guzzling SUVs for their inability to drag race and corner, but I wouldn't be that intentionally daft. Plus, I live in Texas, so the 15 minutes of ice we get each year is hardly a detractor for the other 364 days of the year where the grin from driving my JCW wraps around the back of my head.



Grin?! I grin every mile I drive in my kick-ass Suzuki! I GRIN MY GODDAMMED ASS OFF! :mad:

GoldenJCJ
03-19-12, 11:52 AM
I was on the fence about these cars, actually starting to lean further toward the "they're cool cars" crowd until I just heard that fans of minis are self proclaimed "MINIacs".

Now I have no choice but to despise these little vehicles and spit on every one I come across from now on...

SubZeri
03-19-12, 11:57 AM
Grin?! I grin every mile I drive in my kick-ass Suzuki! I GRIN MY GODDAMMED ASS OFF! :mad:
Sweet! Sounds like you are really enjoying it, I know the feeling! What model, year, and color are you rockin'? Post pics if you can!

I was on the fence about these cars, actually starting to lean further toward the "they're cool cars" crowd until I just heard that fans of minis are self proclaimed "MINIacs".
Now I have no choice but to despise these little vehicles and spit on every one I come across from now on...

It's really no different than enthusiasts of any vehicle, or any hobby, most are passionate about their cars! So your stance is to hate something you don't know anything about just because other people are really into it? And your way of showing the owners they are wrong for loving their MINIs is to be required to physically assault their cars? Based on the types of people that comprise my local MINI club, you don't seem like the type who would be welcome anyways. Stay classy!

Ky-Fi
03-19-12, 12:07 PM
Sweet! Sounds like you are really enjoying it, I know the feeling! What model, year, and color are you rockin'? Post pics if you can!
j

Well, I don't like to brag, but I've done some personal modifications...simple stuff, really....added a twin diesel cam mount, a turbo recoil system...recalibrated the resonator package......

Here's a pic my neighbor took of me just coming out of my driveway on my way to work:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/04/sx4_wrc_002.jpg

SubZeri
03-19-12, 12:19 PM
Man, that's pretty sick! I can see why you grin! BTW, in case you took it wrong, I wasn't implying that other people DIDN'T grin while driving their favorite vehicle, only that I did in mine. Motor on, your ride is really awesome!
j

covenant
03-19-12, 12:31 PM
I think my JCW is in the low 6s, so it isn't the fastest car on the road, but never claimed to be.

So I guess I can ignore your "a push of the sport button and a flick of the paddles is all it takes to put the mentally miniscule types in your rear-view mirror" comment?

My '08 Accord is faster....

and re: Mustang vs Mini:

In Car and Drivers' Lighting Lap tests (laps around Virginia Intl. Raceway), the results were as follows:
Mustang GT 3:08.6
Mini Cooper JCW 3:17.1

4KRG
03-19-12, 12:33 PM
I presume you are talking about me. No ruffled feathers, it's all good! I just love MINIs!


Clearly I am :lol: Have you seen the my strange addiction show where the guy has sex with his car :D



But, hey, if you want cute, own it! You'd look good in a Purple Haze Non-S Cabrio with some pink viper stripes! :D

I will have to see if my boyfriend approves first sweetie ;)

d2cheer
03-19-12, 12:45 PM
Hmm... snows in Canada eh? It would not be my first choice for a car that you would have anything other than ideal driving conditions. I see them in the ditches all the time here in balmy Minnesota in the winter.

GoldenJCJ
03-19-12, 01:12 PM
It's really no different than enthusiasts of any vehicle, or any hobby, most are passionate about their cars! So your stance is to hate something you don't know anything about just because other people are really into it? And your way of showing the owners they are wrong for loving their MINIs is to be required to physically assault their cars? Based on the types of people that comprise my local MINI club, you don't seem like the type who would be welcome anyways. Stay classy!
MINIacs also apparently have no sense of humor either. Calm down, Pal. I was clearly joking and it's just a car.

SubZeri
03-19-12, 01:44 PM
My '08 Accord is faster....

and re: Mustang vs Mini:

In Car and Drivers' Lighting Lap tests (laps around Virginia Intl. Raceway), the results were as follows:
Mustang GT 3:08.6
Mini Cooper JCW 3:17.1
I'm not even going to entertain the comment about the comparison between an Accord and a JCW! :D My friend has an Accord V6 and all he wants to do is drive my car! His Accord handles like Jabba The Hutt on Rollerblades...
It's actually kind of sad that the Mustang GT only won by 8.5 seconds considering that track is primarily long straightaways. You'd figure better for a car with several times the HP and more than 3x the displacement. Not impressive...

Clearly I am Have you seen the my strange addiction show where the guy has sex with his car.
I will have to see if my boyfriend approves first sweetie.
I have seen that, and I'm not quite there yet, but I'm working on it!
Tell your honey that he doesn't own you and get down to the dealership asap! :)

MINIacs also apparently have no sense of humor either. Calm down, Pal. I was clearly joking and it's just a car.
Honest apologies if that's the case. I have a pretty good sense of humor, but your post did not appear to be in jest. I've heard too many stories about peoples' MINIs being vandalized out of spite and it doesn't sit well with me. A smily might have made the difference here. Again, sorry! :(

eXcentris
03-19-12, 01:52 PM
Thanks to SubZeri for his comments. The rest of you can... oh nevermind. ;)

I could not care less about the "your car is ugly" or "my car is faster than yours" crap. It's just that there's no other car in that price range that appeals to me and that the Mini, by all accounts, is a really fun car to drive. And my Del Sol gets stuck in 2" of snow so that's no issue to me :lol: I just wait for the roads to be cleared since I don't use the car much and I don't have a commute to work. I'm semi-retired and I work from home.

The John Cooper Works is out of my price range, so I'll probably stick with the Knightsbridge edition if they (hopefully) still have it. But damn, I like the Mini Cooper Coupe :drool:

http://www.geekandhype.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2012-mini-cooper-coupe-1-550x381.jpg

http://www.geekandhype.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/2012-mini-cooper-coupe-5-550x366.jpg

eXcentris
03-19-12, 01:55 PM
Now excuse me but I have to take the wax off my car and take some pictures. :)

SubZeri
03-19-12, 02:06 PM
Thanks to SubZeri for his comments. The rest of you can... oh nevermind. ;)
Haha! Seriously though, I don't wish to continue the argumentative side of things. I'm a big MINI fan if it wasn't obvious :D and I can't stand the unfounded negativity that is constantly heaped on the MINI. Like I said before, it usually only takes one ride to change someone's mind. That's all, no hard feelings, people!

eXcentris, I love those pics of the new Coupe! Our club has 2 members with new ones, a Spice Orange and a Chili Red. I'm not sure if you are a convertible guy or not, but they are just taking orders now for the new Roadster which is a drop-top version of the Coupe. I'm purely a hatch guy, but the Roadster is worth a look! If you have any questions, I'd be glad to help you out!

Sdallnct
03-19-12, 02:24 PM
Haha! Seriously though, I don't wish to continue the argumentative side of things. I'm a big MINI fan if it wasn't obvious :D and I can't stand the unfounded negativity that is constantly heaped on the MINI. Like I said before, it usually only takes one ride to change someone's mind. That's all, no hard feelings, people!

eXcentris, I love those pics of the new Coupe! Our club has 2 members with new ones, a Spice Orange and a Chili Red. I'm not sure if you are a convertible guy or not, but they are just taking orders now for the new Roadster which is a drop-top version of the Coupe. I'm purely a hatch guy, but the Roadster is worth a look! If you have any questions, I'd be glad to help you out!

I'd love a Mini, but I find the whole "perception" thing to be fascinating. I mean, how do certain cars find themselves with such a reputation? Is it a distinctive "America" thing that if it's small it must be a wussy (and being a native Texan I certainly am familiar with the concept)?

And what is BMW doing about that perception? Or do they not see it? Or not care?

SubZeri
03-19-12, 02:56 PM
I'd love a Mini, but I find the whole "perception" thing to be fascinating. I mean, how do certain cars find themselves with such a reputation? Is it a distinctive "America" thing that if it's small it must be a wussy (and being a native Texan I certainly am familiar with the concept)?

And what is BMW doing about that perception? Or do they not see it? Or not care?
Fascinating perception to be sure! I don't get the anger vs. small vehicles [not just MINIs] thing at all. Shouldn't small and efficient be the norm these days? I live in the Dallas area also, and the perception that lifted behemoth trucks are somehow better, or even cool is beyond me.

And as far as BMW goes...I'd bet they simply don't care. I say that because the true enthusiasts know there's zero "wuss factor" at all, and nothing really matters beyond that. They have people lining up, happily paying full MSRP or more and waiting 8-10 weeks for their car to be built and shipped across the ocean. They sell them as fast as the plant in Oxford can churn them out, and until that changes, I'm sure BMW will continue to laugh their way to the bank while not being too concerned with what the lifted truck crowd (aka my coworkers) has to say.

4KRG
03-19-12, 03:04 PM
5000 other posters could have started this thread and I would have never posted in it. I am just riding our Candian friend a bit ;)

As for this

I can't stand the unfounded negativity that is constantly heaped on the MINI.


how do certain cars find themselves with such a reputation?


I see certain cars as clearly being marketed to females. The best example I have ever seen is the new VW bug.

With the mini, I don't beleive women were the original target audience (just like with the mazda miata) but, you can't help to like what you like and there are just things about the mini that appeal to women whether it was intended or not (some see it and some don't) but that does not mean it isn't appealing to some men as well (obviously).

"Many" people tend to define themselves by their car, so you often hear comments like soulless and tasteless and not any fun being applied to things like the honda accord. As soon as someone goes down that route, it is clear how important a car and it's reputation are to them. IMO - not worth the worry. It's a production car that anyone with enough money can just go and buy. If you want to get all emotional about a car, design and build a one off that no one else owns. (for example - http://www.chipfoose.com/ws_display.asp?filter=Home )

Clearly eXcentris doesn't care about his car's "image" or this thread would have been more fun ;)

The reaction of SubZeri is more the typical. You can't call that a girl car because **I** drive one and **I** am not a girl <insert defensive move here> ;)

SubZeri
03-19-12, 03:23 PM
The reaction of SubZeri is more the typical. You can't call that a girl car because **I** drive one and **I** am not a girl <insert defensive move here> ;)
I guess it's just that I don't see it as strictly a female's car. The great thing about the MINI is that it offers something for every type of driver, from gussied-up girlie ones to race-modified beasts. I promise I'm not saying that just because I drive one. There are thousands of combinations of options to make the car look any way you want. Some of our club members are female and have MINIs that reflect that. Alot of our members are guys and have some of the meanest ones you've ever seen.
If I posted a picture of my car, I'd be surprised if you seriously thought it looks wimpy or girlie, but that's just me. Maybe you would, and that's cool too, more driving time for me! :)

My other hobbies are house music and soccer, so any posters are encouraged to pile on with sweeping generalizations and cliches about these other topics they aren't familiar with! Just playin'!! :D

eXcentris
03-19-12, 03:26 PM
Well FUCK, FUCK and triple FUCK. I was removing wax from my car when the old lady downstairs with the garage next to mine started backing down the driveway to get the car into her garage. My car seemed to be like an insurmountable obstacle to her even if you could have driven a semi through there. So she makes it past my car, opens her garage door and starts backing up into it. At that point it was clear to me that she wasn't lined up and was going to hit the wall so I told her to STOP. Then I started to guide her in order to get lined up SLOWLY and she hits the gas and goes over my foot. My yelling causes her to hit the brake and stop with the car RIGHT ON MY FOOT. Further yelling to back up and she moves the car again...

My foot wrapped in ice now but I think it might be broken. :sad:

I guess the good thing is that she didn't hit my car...

steebo777
03-19-12, 03:28 PM
Thanks to SubZeri for his comments. The rest of you can... oh nevermind. ;)
Hey I tried to offer some insight from a long time MINI owner.

I really don't get alot of people making fun of my car, most of the time they ask me about it or say nice car.

Taken about a year ago:
http://sprizz.net/gallery3/var/resizes/steebo777/MINItron/P1010039.JPG?m=1291698761

New front bumper and lights:
http://sprizz.net/gallery3/var/resizes/steebo777/MINItron/IMG_4229.JPG?m=1307452223

Not shopped:
http://sprizz.net/gallery3/var/resizes/steebo777/MINItron/MINI%20Keg1.JPG?m=1291698521

Th0r S1mpson
03-19-12, 03:30 PM
Plus, the rear-view mirror isn't big enough.

I'm not sure it's the mirror.

<img src="http://www.imageadventures.com/other/excentrismirror.jpg">

SubZeri
03-19-12, 03:38 PM
I really don't get alot of people making fun of my car, most of the time they ask me about it or say nice car.
No doubt, Steebo, looks great! Of course I have an R56, but I love the styling of the R53, it's classic. I like your driving lights alot! Did you remove your stripes?

eXcentris, yikes! Hope you are ok! If your foot is broken, you did the manly thing and posted about it here before getting treatment! Just think, if she had run you over in a MINI, it would probably be a minor bruise! :) Keep us updated!

Interesting side note. One of the big car mags (have to find it) just ranked the original classic Mini (not MINI) the second most influential vehicle in automotive history, second only to the Model T Ford.

covenant
03-19-12, 03:46 PM
It's actually kind of sad that the Mustang GT only won by 8.5 seconds considering that track is primarily long straightaways. You'd figure better for a car with several times the HP and more than 3x the displacement. Not impressive...


Wait a minute, I thought you said the Mini would hang with the Mustang on the track with ease??? If VIR is not curvy enough for you post some comparison times from a track of your choice.

What's impressive is the Mustang costs less than the JCW and yet outperforms it in every category.

SubZeri
03-19-12, 04:09 PM
Wait a minute, I thought you said the Mini would hang with the Mustang on the track with ease??? If VIR is not curvy enough for you post some comparison times from a track of your choice.

What's impressive is the Mustang costs less than the JCW and yet outperforms it in every category.

Like I said, a Mustang is faster, and it should be. I don't care to argue it any more. If you take that as an "internet victory" then have at it, you win. You are welcome to watch the thousands of youtube videos that clearly show how the MINI matches with many cars that cost several times as much. I'd find them myself, but like I said you win because I don't care, sorry.

My MINI is infinitely more fun to drive and I'll stick with that opinion. If by "every category" you are saying that a Mustang outhandles a MINI, then further discussion is more useless than I thought.

covenant
03-19-12, 04:18 PM
My MINI is infinitely more fun to drive and I'll stick with that opinion.

You should have left it with that from the beginning.
That we can agree on.

eXcentris
03-19-12, 04:31 PM
eXcentris, yikes! Hope you are ok! If your foot is broken, you did the manly thing and posted about it here before getting treatment! Just think, if she had run you over in a MINI, it would probably be a minor bruise! :) Keep us updated!



Screw this, I'm not going to wait 8 hours at the ER to get an x-ray even though it's free. ;)

I can move my toes and my foot in all directions and there's hardly any swelling (good thing I iced it right away) so I don't think it's broken. There's a contusion on the upper left side of my foot (I think I see tire marks :) ) but unless it turns a deep shade of purple I'll just keep icing the foot for 20 min every hour and not walk on it. Luckily I have crutches handy. It fucking hurts but even though I drive a chick car, I can deal with that. ;)

SubZeri
03-19-12, 04:34 PM
It fucking hurts but even though I drive a chick car, I can deal with that. ;)
Dude, how are you going to get your high heels on if your foot swells?!
Now I know where the term "heel and toe" shifting came from! :D
Congrats on it not being as serious as you thought, whew!

namja
03-19-12, 11:35 PM
Hey eXcentris. I drove a 2006 Mini Cooper S for 2.5 years (Oct 2007 to Mar 2010) when I was living in San Diego. It was a blast to drive. Peppy, corners like it's on rails, zips around town, fun weaving in and out of traffic, nimble. Great commuting car. Here are a few things that I didn't like:

1. The ride/suspension & the tires. The sport (tight? hard? rough?) suspensions gave a rough ride, and the hard runflat tires that came with the car didn't help. I felt every bump on the road. Even a small pothole or little grooves on the freeway were painful to go over. I guess that's the tradeoff for the great handling. After a year, I replaced the runflats with softer "regular" tires, and the ride was so much smoother and quieter. Since there's no spare tire, it was a risk that I was taking, but I had free roadside assistance so I didn't care so much. If you have a short commute (mine was 3 miles), then you'll love the drive. If you have to drive longer distances, then the harsh ride might be a turn off. I drove to Los Angeles (120 miles away) about once a month. I hated that drive.

2. The car was quite low to the ground. Even though there was plenty of room on the inside, it was not easy for taller people to get in/out of the car. My 6'4" roommate grimaced every time he stepped out of my car.

3. The near vertical windshield. I cracked the windshield twice. Driving 80 MPH on the freeway, a small stone hits your windshield, the likelihood of the windshield cracking is probably higher than most other cars. I don't know the statistics, but mine cracked twice in 30 months. Good thing I had full glass coverage as part of my auto insurance ($0 deductible for glass).

Mini complaints: cramped back seats, tiny trunk, premium fuel required, GPS navigation is user unfriendly.