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superdeluxe
02-29-12, 11:34 AM
http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/30841/

"The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny, chaos will be sown by their passage." So declares the wise Alaundo, in a mysterious new teaser website for Baldur's Gate. Throne of Bhaal's malevolent skull takes center stage here, with the faded images of original player characters populating the background. A simple peek inside the site's source code reveals some enigmatic references to previous Baldur's Gate games.

http://baldursgate.com/


Very Interested in this

msdmoney
02-29-12, 03:00 PM
I've heard it's going to be a first person shooter...

Chris_D
02-29-12, 03:51 PM
But with squad mechanics and gay romance options.

edstein
02-29-12, 07:31 PM
I loved the first game. Never played the second though. I would be interested in a new update to this strong IP.

JasonF
02-29-12, 08:13 PM
I loved the first game. Never played the second though. I would be interested in a new update to this strong IP.

The second game is about a million times better than the first. You should definitely check it out.

Setzer
02-29-12, 10:14 PM
Yes, the second one is definitely better than the first. Both are classics but BG2 is easily one of my favorite RPG's of all time.

foxdvd
02-29-12, 10:24 PM
the second game IS the best pure rpg of all time...

foxdvd
02-29-12, 10:28 PM
and time stop is still the best spell in game history...

slymer
03-01-12, 09:06 AM
I'd love a new Baldur's Gate game!

I just bought Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 with both expansions, Planescape Torment, and the Temple of Elemental Evil off GOG.com for $19.99. Not a bad deal.

nickdawgy
03-01-12, 02:17 PM
Back in the days of awesome RPG gaming....

mugwump
03-01-12, 08:57 PM
Heck I even played the less than stellar Xbox ports. I guess I'm old school but I'll always prefer an isometric perspective for RPGs.

kgrogers1979
03-02-12, 06:24 AM
I loved the first game. Never played the second though. I would be interested in a new update to this strong IP.

-eek-

You can get the whole BG saga on GOG for like $10. You should definitely check it out, because as others have said it is the best RPG ever made. Its really sad how Bioware has fallen because Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as good.

BG3 was actually in development by Black Isle before they went out of business. It was codenamed The Black Hound, similar to their Fallout 3 work in progress codenamed Van Buren. Of course the Fallout 3 we actually got by Bethesda was nothing like Van Buren at all, so I don't really have any faith that if BG3 ever is made that it will be like the old games at all. Isometric games like that are dead and gone. BG3 will most likely be a first person game like Fallout 3 ended up being. Also consider that it definitely won't use the old 2nd edition rule set. It would use the new 4th edition rules that just came out. So yeah, it really won't be much like old school BG at all.

kgrogers1979
03-02-12, 06:26 AM
Heck I even played the less than stellar Xbox ports. I guess I'm old school but I'll always prefer an isometric perspective for RPGs.

They weren't ports. A port is when a game is transferred across systems with minimal changes. The console BG games were completely different games.

RocShemp
03-02-12, 07:08 AM
I don't think I ever played any of the Baldur's Gate games. I recall trying a demo for one of the console games but it wasn't my cup of tea. However, I've also read the console games were all crap.

kgrogers1979
03-02-12, 07:20 AM
I don't think I ever played any of the Baldur's Gate games. I recall trying a demo for one of the console games but it wasn't my cup of tea. However, I've also read the console games were all crap.

They are crap indeed. BG on the consoles was a hack and slash button masher like God of War or Ninja Gaiden. BG on the PC was a very strategic RPG using the D&D rules. Have you played Dragon Age? BG on the PC is Dragon Age done ten times better. In fact, Dragon Age was hyped as being the spiritual successor to BG, although in the end it was just marketing hype because it really wasn't. Dragon Age on the PC was close though since you could change to an isometric view, and the difficulty was a little more strategic than console versions.

Ghym
03-02-12, 09:56 AM
I'd love a new BG game. I played the original long ago. Never played the second one. I recently bought BG 1+2, and Icewind Dale 1+2 off GOG.com when they had a buy one, get one free sale. It also came with Temple of Elemental Evil for free. 5 games for $20. A good deal, IMO. I've now got plenty of old school RPGs to play through.

fumanstan
03-02-12, 10:03 AM
Its really sad how Bioware has fallen because Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as good.

This almost makes it sound like Bioware is making crap games now or something. Personally, I like the Mass Effect series better.

kgrogers1979
03-02-12, 10:07 AM
It also came with Temple of Elemental Evil for free.

ToEE is a very bland game. Its sad because it does have the most faithful representation of tabletop D&D gaming ever converted to a computer game, and that part is absolutely amazing, but the rest of the game is junk. The storyline is more basic than Diablo. The quests are all fetch quests. The amazing combat engine is the only good thing about it.

If you do play ToEE, be sure to get the Circle of Eight mod. That mod adds a lot of content and provides a better experience. Its still not a great game, but its a lot better than vanilla ToEE.

If someone ever made a game with the depth of Baldur's Gate combined with the combat engine of ToEE, it would be the best game ever made.

kgrogers1979
03-02-12, 10:13 AM
This almost makes it sound like Bioware is making crap games now or something. Personally, I like the Mass Effect series better.

Mass Effect better than Baldur's Gate? That's blasphemy!

It really depends on what you want in your games. Mass Effect, like most games today, are definitely more cinematic and almost like a Hollywood movie. However, they typically lack the gameplay depth of older games. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as deep as Baldur's Gate. Fallout 3 is nowhere near as deep as Fallout 1 and 2. Deus Ex: Human Revolution isn't as deep as the original Deus Ex. And so on. Personally I prefer gameplay over cinematic graphics, so I am not too much into modern gaming. Other people prefer cinematics over gameplay. Nothing wrong with it, just different preferences.

RocShemp
03-02-12, 10:22 AM
They are crap indeed. BG on the consoles was a hack and slash button masher like God of War or Ninja Gaiden. BG on the PC was a very strategic RPG using the D&D rules. Have you played Dragon Age? BG on the PC is Dragon Age done ten times better. In fact, Dragon Age was hyped as being the spiritual successor to BG, although in the end it was just marketing hype because it really wasn't. Dragon Age on the PC was close though since you could change to an isometric view, and the difficulty was a little more strategic than console versions.

Yeah, I have DA. Sadly, never got to finish it. I forgot to backup my save when I had to re-install Windows 7 a while back. Since I was pretty deep in the game, I haven't had much desire to start from the beginning all over again.

I rarely used the isometric camera, however. It helped in certain areas but felt mostly pointless since enemies would just magically appear out of nowhere (DAII was far worse in that regard).

fumanstan
03-02-12, 10:33 AM
Mass Effect better than Baldur's Gate? That's blasphemy!

It really depends on what you want in your games. Mass Effect, like most games today, are definitely more cinematic and almost like a Hollywood movie. However, they typically lack the gameplay depth of older games. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as deep as Baldur's Gate. Fallout 3 is nowhere near as deep as Fallout 1 and 2. Deus Ex: Human Revolution isn't as deep as the original Deus Ex. And so on. Personally I prefer gameplay over cinematic graphics, so I am not too much into modern gaming. Other people prefer cinematics over gameplay. Nothing wrong with it, just different preferences.

I prefer gameplay over cinematic graphics too, but I think "gameplay" is somewhat ambiguous and ill-defined so i'm not sure if that's the comparison I would make as the distinction between new and old games. For what its worth, I like Fallout 1/2 and the original Deus Ex better then their modern counter parts too, but still have Mass Effect as my favorite RPG. :shrug:

RocShemp
03-02-12, 10:46 AM
I love Mass Effect but only like Dragon Age. I wonder where I fit in all this.

fumanstan
03-02-12, 10:48 AM
I only like Dragon Age too. :p

foxdvd
03-02-12, 11:08 AM
Mass Effect better than Baldur's Gate? That's blasphemy!

It really depends on what you want in your games. Mass Effect, like most games today, are definitely more cinematic and almost like a Hollywood movie. However, they typically lack the gameplay depth of older games. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are nowhere near as deep as Baldur's Gate.

I love Baldur's Gate. I think I have near 300 hours into the second game, but I just disagree with the idea that the gameplay is deeper than Mass Effect. I guess it depends on what you are looking for or define "deep" as. Baldur's Gate does not hold your hand, I will give you that. One is truly open world and the other is structured. Combat is a major reason to play these games. With Baldur's Gate 2, even on the highest difficulty, I got to the point that I never thought about it. I could go through the motions in my sleep. Mass Effect on the other hand on the highest difficulty requires you to be on your toes. While it is still not a hard game, there is a strategy required that keeps you on edge during the game that is missing in Baldur's Gate.

Baldur's Gate has the joy of exploration and discovery that makes the game special. Mass Effect has, as you say, a Hollywood like presentation. Both games are a lot of fun during combat. I just happen to find Mass Effect deeper in that regard, and ultimately that is the reason I play games.

I am with you on Dragon Age though...

foxdvd
03-02-12, 11:40 AM
and I have to add...reading my post again I made it sound like Baldurs gate was easy...or that combat had no depth..

This is not the case, there is plenty of difficulty until you figure it out and level up, and you will get your ass handed to you if you pick fights you are not ready for or go where you should not be. You need a lot of strategy for Baldur's gate, it just seemed to me that I got to the point that combat was mindless. I almost did not think about buffs, potions and strategy (I just used them).... Mass Effect 2 is an easy game, but the nature of the combat never allowed me to just sort of block out what I was doing if I was playing on Insanity.

Also I have a total of 130 hours on Mass 2, and WAY over 300 on BG2...so that might have something to do with it...

Ghym
03-15-12, 10:17 AM
PCGamer.com has an article that the Baldur's Gate page has a countdown going. Should hit zero today around 12pm pacific. I just went to the site, and it's down to 3:45:00 to go. I guess we'll find out what its about pretty soon.

superdeluxe
03-15-12, 10:35 AM
Hoping for Isometric, likely going to be first person shooter/rpg

RocShemp
03-15-12, 11:24 AM
Hoping for Isometric, likely going to be first person shooter/rpg

Or a FaceBook game a'la Dragon Age Legends.

JasonF
03-15-12, 12:59 PM
One rumor I've heard is an iOS port (that would be OK with me).

Tracer Bullet
03-15-12, 02:02 PM
Apparently the countdown was to the site going down.

RocShemp
03-15-12, 02:19 PM
Apparently the countdown was to the site going down.

Are you serious? :lol:

kgrogers1979
03-15-12, 02:21 PM
Its still down.

You know, if you are going to count down to a supposedly big announcement, you should be well prepared beforehand for any potential bandwidth overloads...

kgrogers1979
03-15-12, 02:36 PM
This just showed up on Joystiq.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/15/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition-arrives-this-summer/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2012/03/beamdogannounce530pxheaderimg.jpg

Nope, we still don't really know what this Baldur's Gate announcement business is, but we sure do know it's name now: "Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition." Huzzah! As previously reported, Beamdog is working on the Baldur's Gate project, though the developer's Overhaul Games division is taking lead. Atari is handling publishing duties, and Wizards of the Coast is licensing its (D&D-based) IP.

From the few details we have, the project sounds an awful lot like an HD remake to us – especially given the fancier logo and "Enhanced Edition" subtitle. We've reached out to Beamdog for clarity on what the game actually is, and what platforms it'll end up on (among other things). For now, know that Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition will land on whatever those platforms are at some point this summer. We're gonna take a wild guess that it'll be on PC at the very least.

There already is an HD mod that plays the original game in HD graphics, so I hope this is more than just an HD facelift.

RocShemp
03-15-12, 02:42 PM
Wow. If all that was for a simple facelift, that was a whole lot of nothing. :down:

Ghym
03-15-12, 03:42 PM
Well, according to this article, it's more than a re-package.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/15/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition-announced-coming-this-summer/

Following an enigmatic, tedious countdown timer (that broke the website upon expiring for 40 minutes and counting), Overhaul Games has announced Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition.

BG and BG2 have been available on GOG.com for awhile, so what’ll this contribute? According to the developer, original game content. Overhaul Games told Joystiq: “This is the Enhanced Edition, it’s not a repackage. We have the original source code and are doing a significant update.” I’ve separately reached out to the developer for more information.

Right now, the game’s announcement page is still busted, so I’m not sure whether to tell you to keep F5ing or not. I’ll update with any additional information as we receive it.

kgrogers1979
03-15-12, 04:00 PM
We have the original source code and are doing a significant update.

It sounds to me like they are just updating the old Infinity Engine rather than doing an actual remake. I wonder just how much they can actually update it that hasn't already been done in mods. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of BG mods out there that significantly improve the original game. Like I said before, there is even a mod that lets you play the original game in HD and widescreen resolutions, so even that is nothing new.

So far this whole thing seems VERY underwhelming. Unless it turns out to be an actual remake with a new engine, it seems like a huge waste of time.

kgrogers1979
03-15-12, 04:18 PM
The site is finally working now. Only 3 hours late. :lol:

http://www.baldursgate.com/news/2012/03/15/announcing-baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition/

Announcing Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™
March 15, 2012

Atari, Wizards of the Coast, and Overhaul Games are pleased to announce work has begun on the Enhanced Edition of Baldur’s Gate and Baldur’s Gate II.

Since its initial release in 1998, Baldur’s Gate has entertained millions of fans around the globe, and has received countless awards. This classic saga of mystery, intrigue, and adventure has set the standard for Dungeons & Dragons® computer roleplaying games ever since.

Re-forged by Overhaul Games

Overhaul Games has assembled a talented team of artists, programmers and designers to enhance this timeless classic. To remain true to the spirit of the game, the team includes original Baldur’s Gate developers.

Relive the most epic story ever told

Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™ and Baldur’s Gate II: Enhanced Edition™ will feature a re-forged version of the Infinity Engine with a variety of modern improvements.

The greatest roleplaying game of all time, enhanced

For all information regarding Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™ visit www.baldursgate.com, for press inquiries contact baldursgate@beamdog.com.

So there will be both a BG1 and BG2 enhanced editions. It also looks like I was right. Its just an enhancement of the old Infinity Engine and not a real remake. I was hoping for a 3D isometric engine similar to Diablo 3. Just reusing the old engine is major disappointment.

Ghym
03-15-12, 04:23 PM
Considering I just bought both BG 1+2 off of GOG.com, I'll probably just stick to playing those, unless this new game has some really cool new features.

kgrogers1979
03-15-12, 04:31 PM
I wonder if it will use 4th edition rules? I really can't imagine Wizards of the Coast would ever go back to 2nd edition.

That's probably what the "modern enhancement" is. Just a change in the rule set and everything else remains the same. :lol:

Setzer
03-15-12, 06:57 PM
Depending on what sort of enhancements they have planned and what new content will be added to the game, I might pick it up. I was hoping for Baldur's Gate III using an enhanced version of the Infinity Engine....but I guess that ain't happening anytime soon. I've already re-played the first game using the TuTu mod and if that's all this enhanced version is then I'll pass.

Setzer
03-15-12, 06:58 PM
I wonder if it will use 4th edition rules? I really can't imagine Wizards of the Coast would ever go back to 2nd edition.

That's probably what the "modern enhancement" is. Just a change in the rule set and everything else remains the same. :lol:

No, it will retain the same rule set from the original games.

RocShemp
03-16-12, 08:49 AM
I've never played D&D but have heard many people ramble on about 2nd edition rules versus 4th edition rules. Why is this such a big issue?

kgrogers1979
03-16-12, 10:19 AM
I've never played D&D but have heard many people ramble on about 2nd edition rules versus 4th edition rules. Why is this such a big issue?

There are a lot of differences going from one edition to the next, but most of the complaints are just older people not being able to accept anything new. A lot of people didn't accept 3E either.

1E came out in the 1970s. I never played it. 2E came out in the late 1980s, and I was about 10 years old at the time and that's when I first started playing. I don't know if there were complaints from older gamers about all the changes back then as I was too young to care about such things.

Then in the late 1990s the TSR company was going bankrupt and Wizards of the Coast bought them and the D&D franchise. WotC then immediately created a new 3E which was a radical departure from 2E, and I know there were lots and lots of complaints about 3E being "dumbed down for newbies." While some of that was true, other things in 3E were more complex than 2E.

Baldur's Gate 2 ended up being the last 2E computer D&D game. The next D&D game, Neverwinter Nights was 3E.

4E was released a few years ago, and I haven't really paid much attention to it since I don't play pen and paper anymore and no computer D&D game has yet used 4E. From what little I know about 4E, most of the complaints are that it is dumbed down yet again and is made more for the MMORPG crowd than the old school pen and paper gamers. I don't really know how much of that is true or not.

Ghym
03-16-12, 12:10 PM
There is an article up on Gamespy, with more info. They say that BG3 is their long-term goal.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition/1220929p1.html


"We've been adding side stories, stories to tie things together, unfinished stories," Tofer said. "As far as new types of abilities, we have more announcements coming."


Which is, of course, great news, but it's only the beginning. No, Baldur's Gate 3 isn't A Thing just yet, but if Overhaul has its way, it'll only be a matter of time. Tofer explained:

"Baldur's Gate 3 has been our long term goal. We have a lot of things to put in place before such a project can be launched. So currently there is no such project but that's the one we want to do. Our thoughts have been that Enhanced Edition for BG 1 and 2 just make sense before there's any Baldur's Gate 3."

"We're totally thinking Kickstarter. It just makes so much sense and solves so many problems. I think what Brian [Fargo] is doing with Wasteland is very interesting."

kgrogers1979
03-16-12, 12:33 PM
I just don't see how Baldur's Gate 3 could ever really work in anything but name only.

The Bhaalspawn story was concluded with the Throne of Bhaal expansion. There's really no way they could continue that story. So any potential BG3 would have to be a completely new story that is only tangentially related to BG1 and 2.

Also consider the changes in rules with 4E now. BG3 will never be a 2E game like BG1 and 2 were. Wizards of the Coast would never allow that. They may allow an "enhanced edition" of BG1 and 2 to keep the 2E rules, but a brand new game like BG3 would most definitely be 4E.

So any BG3 at this point would be Baldur's Gate in name only... kind of like the Dark Alliance console games...

Trevor
03-16-12, 01:25 PM
:shrug: I loved the console BG: Dark Alliance games, mainly as a two person co-op experience.

Always meant to play the original BG games, and have the old things in a box somewhere, but at this point maybe I'll wait to see how this enhancement comes off.

kgrogers1979
03-22-12, 04:02 PM
The site has been updated. The enhanced editions are coming to iPad. No word on a PC release, so I wonder if these are iPad exclusives...

I have never used an iPad before, but I am surprised these are coming because I thought the file size would be too large. Is there no limit to the size of apps? BG1 and 2 both are several GB in size.

http://www.baldursgate.com/news/2012/03/21/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition-for-ipad-3/

Overhaul Games is pleased to announce Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™ for iPad.

Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition on iPad

Since its initial release in 1998, Baldur’s Gate has entertained millions of fans around the globe, and has received countless awards. This classic saga of mystery, intrigue, and adventure has set the standard for Dungeons & Dragons™ computer role-playing games ever since.

The greatest story ever told, better than you imagined

Running on an upgraded and improved version of the Infinity Engine, Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™ will include the entire Baldur’s Gate adventure, the Tales of the Sword Coast expansion pack, and never before seen content including a new adventure and new party member.

Your ultimate destiny, now in your grasp

Baldur’s Gate: Enhanced Edition™ will be available on the Apple App Store in summer 2012. For all information visit www.baldursgate.com.

http://www.baldursgate.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/sc1.jpg

http://www.baldursgate.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/sc2.jpg

http://www.baldursgate.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/sc3.jpg

Trevor
03-22-12, 04:46 PM
The site has been updated. The enhanced editions are coming to iPad. No word on a PC release, so I wonder if these are iPad exclusives...

I have never used an iPad before, but I am surprised these are coming because I thought the file size would be too large. Is there no limit to the size of apps? BG1 and 2 both are several GB in size.
The original was only 300 mb.

I'm not sure if there is a limit, but I hear some apps are well over a gig, so this shouldn't be a problem at all.

I'm in, need some old school gaming on my new iPad (after Lent).

kgrogers1979
03-22-12, 05:05 PM
The original was only 300 mb.

You mean the original BG? It was well over 300 MB.

It originally was five CD-ROMs with Tales of the Sword Coast on a sixth disc if you had the expansion. Sure a multi-disc game like that has some data redundancy, but Bioware later re-released it with better data compression and it was still three discs.

I don't have the games installed currently, but I know BG1 was over 2 GB in size and BG2 was close to 3 GB. So the whole thing would be close to 5 GB, which is a hefty chunk if you only have a 16 GB iPad.

Edit: Well, now I recall old games like this having an option to do a partial install or a full install. Since hard drives back then were so small, many people only did partial installs and ran the game off the disc. With much larger hard drives today, games are fully installed and run completely off the hard drive. Its possible the partial install of BG1 was only 300 MB, but the iPad will require a full install since there is no way to play it off a disc.

Trevor
03-22-12, 05:28 PM
You mean the original BG? It was well over 300 MB.

It originally was five CD-ROMs with Tales of the Sword Coast on a sixth disc if you had the expansion. Sure a multi-disc game like that has some data redundancy, but Bioware later re-released it with better data compression and it was still three discs.

I don't have the games installed currently, but I know BG1 was over 2 GB in size and BG2 was close to 3 GB. So the whole thing would be close to 5 GB, which is a hefty chunk if you only have a 16 GB iPad.

Edit: Well, now I recall old games like this having an option to do a partial install or a full install. Since hard drives back then were so small, many people only did partial installs and ran the game off the disc. With much larger hard drives today, games are fully installed and run completely off the hard drive. Its possible the partial install of BG1 was only 300 MB, but the iPad will require a full install since there is no way to play it off a disc.
I made the mistake of going by wiki.

I guess they could do something like free DLC that you download as you get to new areas?

kgrogers1979
03-22-12, 05:33 PM
I made the mistake of going by wiki.

I guess they could do something like free DLC that you download as you get to new areas?

I'm not sure that would work with BG due to its open-nature go anywhere at any time kind of gameplay. It would work in a strictly linear game like Final Fantasy, but I don't think it would with Baldur's Gate.

DaveNinja
03-23-12, 11:29 AM
this makes me really want an iPad now

JasonF
03-23-12, 08:13 PM
I have BG1 (including Tales of the Sword Coast) installed on my computer via GOG. It checks in at 2.51 GB.

I hope the iPad version runs on an original iPad. If not, I'm giving serious thought to upgrading to a New iPad.

kgrogers1979
03-29-12, 04:37 PM
There's a minor update on the baldursgate.com site. They confirm it is coming to Mac.

Wolf359
07-26-12, 02:39 PM
Finally more news. Coming out on Sept 18, $20 PC/Mac $10 ios.

http://kotaku.com/5928997/baldurs-gate-is-back-new-characters-dungeon-coming-september-1

kgrogers1979
07-26-12, 03:06 PM
Finally more news. Coming out on Sept 18, $20 PC/Mac $10 ios.

http://kotaku.com/5928997/baldurs-gate-is-back-new-characters-dungeon-coming-september-1


There's more info on the main BG site.

http://www.baldursgate.com/windows.en.html

It shows three new characters and one new quest, The Black Pits. It also shows some new screenshots. I find it particularly funny that the Rasaad character looks like Kratos. It really shows that the intended demographic of this isn't really old school BG lovers like myself, but rather kids who love God of War. I can't imagine that kids who love God of War are really going to be impressed with a decade old game that still looks like a decade old game.

Truth be told, I love BG 1 and 2 and frequently replay them about once every year or so. However, this whole thing has been a major disappointment to me. One big claim is that this is BG in high definition, but yet there has been a widescreen HD mod available for BD for several years now. The screenshots of this look literally no different than the classic BG running with that mod. I mean they are basically charging $20 for something that has been available as a free mod for years. WTF. Three new characters and one new quest isn't enough to make me buy it all over again.

I wonder if this thing is going to be backwards compatible with mods from classic BG? That is going to be a major deal breaker for a lot of people I imagine if it isn't backwards compatible because there are tons of mods that the BG community loves to use.

As much as I love BG and want to see BG become a hit with a new generation of gamers, I just don't see it happening. This looks like it is going to fall flat on its face.

JasonF
07-26-12, 03:16 PM
I always thought Kratos looked like Minsc:
http://files.myopera.com/S-Priest/albums/98449/Minsc.pnghttp://static.thegamershub.net/wp-content/uploads/kratos.jpg

kgrogers1979
07-26-12, 03:37 PM
I always thought Kratos looked like Minsc

Go for the eyes, Boo! Butt-kicking for goodness!

Yeah, now that you mention it Minsc does bare a slight resemblance to Kratos, but their personalities are completely different. Minsc is a very unique fun loving lovable guy with a miniature giant space hamster. Kratos is the typical cliche badass that's a dime a dozen.

And look at the new character Rasaad:

http://baldursgate.com/images/features/rasaad.png

He looks much more like Kratos than Minsc does and will probably have the personality to boot considering they say Rasaad is a monk so he will probably be some badass dual-wielding ninja monk thing.

xmiyux
07-27-12, 10:23 PM
Minsc was one of the greatest characters ever. To this day my wife and I still quote some of his lines because they crack us up.

-Where Minsc goes, evil steps aside!


edit: After looking up some Minsc quotes I have decided I need this one on a poster to put in my classroom:

This behaviour must not continue. Feel the burning stare of my hamster and change your ways.

nickdawgy
07-28-12, 03:28 AM
I always thought Kratos looked like Minsc:
http://files.myopera.com/S-Priest/albums/98449/Minsc.pnghttp://static.thegamershub.net/wp-content/uploads/kratos.jpg

Is that Goldberg?

:lol:

Duran
11-28-12, 08:25 PM
Anyone try this yet? Released for PC today. I already have the original on PC, but I may be interested in the iOS version if it works on iPad 1 and gets good reviews.

kgrogers1979
11-29-12, 07:03 PM
Anyone try this yet? Released for PC today. I already have the original on PC, but I may be interested in the iOS version if it works on iPad 1 and gets good reviews.

I have played a bit of it. I think I am going to wait for a patch until I play anymore, because right now it is really buggy. Its funny because it was originally supposed to come out back in September but they decided to delay it two months to polish it. Its still a buggy mess two months later.

msdmoney
11-29-12, 07:15 PM
I'm going to wait for the ipad version I think, if it turns out well, and I'll wait for a sale. I figure all of the bugs will be worked out by then.

edstein
11-29-12, 07:45 PM
Same here. I'd like to try the iPad version.

kgrogers1979
11-30-12, 11:17 AM
A potential problem with the iPad is the file size. I have never actually used an iPad or any other tablet, but I thought app sizes were fairly small. I thought iPad games were all the small Angry Birds minigame style stuff that is only a couple hundred megabytes in size. Has anyone before this ever released a full size game on iPad before?

The install size on BG:EE on my PC is 1.8 GB. BG2:EE will be even bigger. So if you want the whole BG saga, you are looking at a minimum of 4 GB. If you only have a 16 GB iPad, that is literally a quarter of your hard drive space taken up by BG alone.

Groucho
11-30-12, 11:25 AM
There are multi-GB iPad games out there.

shumway
11-30-12, 11:35 AM
Infinity Blade II comes in at a little over 2 GB, same with Avengers Initiative if I'm not mistaken.

msdmoney
11-30-12, 03:15 PM
Yep, app sizes are all over the place, some games are only a few megabytes, some games like the infinity blade games are a couple gigs. I'm glad developers are free to include whatever file size they want and there isn't some silly arbitrary limit like XBLA had when it started.

kgrogers1979
12-07-12, 07:34 PM
The iPad version was released today. It's $10. The PC version is $20. What the hell.

Duran
12-07-12, 07:48 PM
The iPad version has some of the content as an IAP, whereas it is included in the PC version from the beginning.

I'm disappointed it only supports iOS 6, which means no iPad 1 support yet.

kgrogers1979
12-07-12, 07:52 PM
The three new characters are the in-app purchases. I can't really see how that alone makes for a $10 difference over the PC. Basically they are saying each new character is worth $3.33? :lol:

Also Trent Oster (one of the main programmers) commented on the lack of iPad 1 support. He said there is a memory problem since the iPad 1 has half the memory of its successors. They are still working on it and hope to get it work.

http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/11010/ipad-launch-and-ipad-1-support

Trevor
12-07-12, 08:22 PM
I'm sure most of the reason for the price difference is the market. iOS gamers are used to even the highest quality games being $2 or less.

edstein
12-07-12, 11:50 PM
I picked it up for iPad. I've only done the tutorial so far. More comments to follow.

kgrogers1979
12-08-12, 12:41 PM
I picked it up for iPad. I've only done the tutorial so far. More comments to follow.

Cool beans. I am interested in hearing how it controls on a touchscreen vs keyboard/mouse.

kgrogers1979
12-09-12, 06:38 PM
Its appears that the Infinity Engine games may be coming to Steam soon...

Baldur's Gate
http://steamcommunity.com/app/206180

Baldur's Gate 2
http://steamcommunity.com/app/206970

Planescape Torment
http://steamcommunity.com/app/205180

Icewind Dale
http://steamcommunity.com/app/206940

Icewind Dale 2
http://steamcommunity.com/app/206950

starman9000
01-16-13, 03:26 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/228280/

It's on steam now. 20$

I'd like this, but you can get the anthology at gamersgate for the same price with all those games, not sure the EE makes up for the $ difference.

kgrogers1979
01-16-13, 03:35 PM
...not sure the EE makes up for the $ difference.

At the current time, no it doesn't. The game right now is just a huge buggy mess. The game was released far too early. The developers have released five or six patches already, but there are still a metric butt ton of critical bugs in the game that still need fixed. The game may eventually be worth the price tag if they get all the bugs fixed, but at the present time I cannot recommend buying it at all. I would much more recommend getting the original game off GOG or Gamersgate and modding it with Tutu mod + widescreen mod + 1pp mod since that is the majority of what the EE actually is is just combining those three mods into an easier to use package.

shumway
01-28-13, 05:47 PM
I picked it up for iPad. I've only done the tutorial so far. More comments to follow.

If you haven't given up on it yet please comment on performance post the most recent patch when you have a chance. I definitely would like to pick this up at some point but not until it is less buggy and the UI is more responsive. Thanks.

starman9000
04-25-14, 10:51 PM
Looks like this finally came out on Android. I'm about to travel, so am likely going to grab it, but looking to hear some opinions from those of you that bought and played the iPad version (or if anyone has jumped into the droid already).