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TheBigDave
02-23-12, 06:19 PM
Is there any chance we can get a forum to discuss Streaming?

Right now there are active Streaming threads in Movie Talk, Tech Talk, Store Forum, Hot Deals, DVD Reviews & Recommendations, DVD & Home Theater Gear, TV Talk and Anime Talk. It would be great to have all these discussions in the same forum. Gathering all the threads in one location would make the information much easier to find.

And I think streaming will become more popular in the future. Streaming options are built-in to most new TVs, DVD/Blu players, game consoles and mobile devices. Netflix is shifting their interests from DVD to streaming. And other companies like HBO, Comcast, Amazon, Apple, Verizon, etc are all making huge commitments to streaming. With more people being exposed to streaming, and more companies jumping onboard, it's only going to get bigger.

Maybe it's not ready for it's own dedicated forum, but a sub-forum would be nice. I'm not sure where you'd put it. Perhaps under one of the sections in the DVD Discussions section. And as a financial incentive, it would be a great place for Netflix, Hulu, Roku, etc advertisements or sponsorship.

benedict
02-23-12, 06:35 PM
I've flagged this with IB. If anyone else wants to chip in to add weight to the OP's request before a rep returns to view this thread...

DJariya
02-23-12, 09:15 PM
I agree, it's becoming a much more popular medium in addition to cable, OTA etc. As some of you know, Netflix and Hulu are starting to branch out into original programming and they have some new shows coming out later this year. Plus, the new season of Arrested Development will be coming out in 2013 on Netflix.

IMO, it might be a good subforum in TV Talk. That way it keeps TV Talk discussions more on current OTA and Cable shows. There are people in TV Talk who like to bring up older/cancelled shows they saw on Netflix or Hulu and their threads usually don't get much discussion because of current programming that is more topical.

Also, the subforum could be a good reference tool for those looking for what's new in the streaming world.

Dave made some good points, IB's sales department could definitely use the Streaming subforum to approach Netflix, Hulu or Roku for possible advertising opportunities.

Dan
02-24-12, 09:37 AM
I think a streaming forum is a great idea. I, too, have noticed all the threads in the various locations, and wouldn't mind seeing them consolidated to one forum. My only disagreement with DJariya is that I don't think it should be a TV Talk sub-forum. Although TV-type content may be what is discussed the most, I think "streaming" is too broad of a topic to put there (especially more and more over time). I think it should be a main forum in the "Entertainment" section with a description like, "A place to discuss streaming options and content for all forms of Entertainment."

I'm happy with whatever happens, but that's my personal preference.

b2net
02-24-12, 10:05 AM
Would we also have threads for audio streaming? like rhapsody or pandora? I will say I like the idea of the streaming threads being in their own place. That would be much easier than hunting all the other areas.

b2net
02-24-12, 10:24 AM
Here are two examples of streaming threads which support TheBigDave's suggestion.

Amazon Instant Video - Non Prime Rental Deals (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/hot-deals/599078-amazon-instant-video-non-prime-rental-deals.html)

Amazon Instant Video - Non Prime Free Purchase Full Episodes (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/hot-deals/599077-amazon-instant-video-non-prime-free-purchase-full-episodes.html)

Shannon Nutt
02-24-12, 03:23 PM
Great idea...between Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Vudu, and literally hundreds of Roku channels, it would be great to have a forum so I don't spend hours just surfing through new releases and not actually watching anything. :)

davidh777
02-24-12, 04:23 PM
I've wondered about this myself

IBobi
02-24-12, 06:09 PM
Please PM me when you have consensus on what you'd like, where you want it, and I'll make it happen.

FWIW, I think it's a great idea.

Paul

TheBigDave
02-24-12, 07:21 PM
I think this subject is big enough for it's own forum. With discussions on hardware, tech support, comparing services, movie recommendations, audio streaming, industry news, bargains, etc. It covers a broad range of topics. And I can't think of anywhere it really fits as a sub-forum.

As suggested by SomethingMore, the Entertainment Discussions section would probably be the best location. Another good location might be the DVD Discussions section. I think it fits in well with those topics.

DJariya
02-24-12, 07:25 PM
Ditto

I'm game for Streaming as an Entertainment forum.

TheBigDave
02-24-12, 07:38 PM
Would we also have threads for audio streaming? like rhapsody or pandora?

I think it should cover all streaming topics, including audio. Especially since the same hardware that streams movies/TV also offers streaming music services like Rhapsody, Pandora and Spotify. And many of the movie services have streaming concerts, artist documentaries and music videos. So I think it would fit the forum perfectly.

Personally, I don't listen to much music. But I often stream my favorite audio podcasts on the AppleTV and Roku.

Swell86
02-24-12, 07:49 PM
i'd love to see a streaming forum, especially one that lists amazon streaming deals. i.e. full season tv at a discount or movies on sale.

Trevor
02-25-12, 07:34 AM
Agree that it'd be great as a full forum under Entertainment. Great idea BG.

Tracer Bullet
02-25-12, 12:49 PM
I like the idea, but I don't think it should be under Entertainment. Streaming is a format, not a medium. What's the difference if someone watches a TV show on Netflix and wants to talk about it vs. watching it on cable or whatever?

As crazy as it sounds, I think a Streaming forum should be under DVD. If that's too weird, then a subforum under Tech perhaps?

DJariya
02-25-12, 01:24 PM
IMO, it needs to be under Entertainment as some here have already mentioned. You need to put it in a place where it will get the most views and best chances for people to want to interact in.

I do see some potential for redundancy with TV Talk. As I mentioned earlier, there is some programming premiering on Netflix like House of Cards this Fall and Arrested Development in 2013. Since they are "Streaming Only" shows, ideally the place to talk about them would be in "Streaming Talk." However, I can see people ignoring that and posting a thread about it in TV Talk.

DJariya
02-25-12, 01:32 PM
What's the difference if someone watches a TV show on Netflix and wants to talk about it vs. watching it on cable or whatever?


I think part of the appeal for me to have a "Streaming Talk" forum is to help keep "TV Talk" more topical to what's currently on air. Obviously, topics are still fair game though. If something isn't available on streaming and they saw a repeat on FX or TNT, then by all means talk about it in TV Talk.

I mean if someone wants to talk about Star Trek Deep Space Nine or one of the earlier seasons of 30 Rock, which they just got into via Netflix, that would be the ideal place for them. If there is 5-6 hours of new shows airing on cable/OTA on any given night, his/her topic about something that they saw via streaming will at least have a way to get seen and not get igonored.

The topic itself is pretty broad though since people will be recommending movies, stuff on HBOGo or Showtime Anytime.

kd5
02-25-12, 02:58 PM
Even though I don't do streaming, with streaming seemingly gaining in popularity I think having a centralized location for all things streaming would be a pretty good idea. Another vote for a separate forum in Entertainment Discussions since streaming could include more than just television. -kd5-

story
02-25-12, 03:15 PM
I could see this being a good thing for people who surf DVDTalk by forum.

For me, I click the "New Posts" link at sift through whatever is new for the first five pages (beyond that, I just "let it go" because I can't spend my life on DVDTalk and if it's a great topic, it will rise to the top soon enough). So for me, it won't mean much change.

That said, if there's a way to filter the "New Posts" link to include just the forums I want (DVDs, BDs, Streaming, Video Games, Otter) and not the stuff I don't want to get into (Sports, Politics), I'd really dig that!

Sean O'Hara
02-26-12, 10:28 AM
I like the idea, but I don't think it should be under Entertainment. Streaming is a format, not a medium. What's the difference if someone watches a TV show on Netflix and wants to talk about it vs. watching it on cable or whatever?

As crazy as it sounds, I think a Streaming forum should be under DVD. If that's too weird, then a subforum under Tech perhaps?

Agreed -- I expect it'd be more like discussing the latest season set of Chuck than discussing Chuck itself.

davidh777
02-27-12, 04:26 AM
If I were going to discuss a TV show or TV season, I think I'd still go to TV Talk first. Maybe a lot of people there wouldn't be watching it at the same time, but chances are people would have seen it earlier and be eager to chime in, and they'd be more likely to see it there.

Streaming Talk would seem like a great destination for:

What are current specials on various services?
What movies/shows have been recently added/subtracted (especially to free services)?
What would be the best hardware/service option if I like _______?

DJariya
02-27-12, 04:30 AM
If I were going to discuss a TV show or TV season, I think I'd still go to TV Talk first. Maybe a lot of people there wouldn't be watching it at the same time, but chances are people would have seen it earlier and be eager to chime in, and they'd be more likely to see it there.

Streaming Talk would seem like a great destination for:

What are current specials on various services?
What movies/shows have been recently added/subtracted (especially to free services)?
What would be the best hardware/service option if I like _______?

:thumbsup: Good points.

TheBigDave
02-28-12, 09:32 AM
Please PM me when you have consensus on what you'd like, where you want it, and I'll make it happen.

I think we have a consensus that it's a good idea, and it deserves it's own full forum.

There seems to be differing opinions on which section it should go under (Entertainment or DVD). I think people have made a good case for either location.

Should we set-up a poll or take a vote?

islandclaws
02-28-12, 07:19 PM
I vote Entertainment. The DVD forums seem more suited for tangible media.

MrSmearkase
02-28-12, 07:31 PM
Another vote for Entertainment

auto
02-28-12, 08:39 PM
Entertainment

Dan
02-28-12, 10:03 PM
Entertainment.

Tracer Bullet
02-29-12, 12:08 PM
Putting it in Entertainment is a bad idea. I just watched Lost on Netflix. So I have to go to the Streaming forum to talk about it? It makes no sense.

How about a separate ebook forum, and if you read the ebook you can't talk about it in the regular Book forum?

The Cow
02-29-12, 12:16 PM
Putting it in Entertainment is a bad idea. I just watched Lost on Netflix. So I have to go to the Streaming forum to talk about it? It makes no sense.


I agree. TV should be for TV show discussion, Movies for Movie discussion.

Streaming could be to talk about the streaming services and their programming (not the programs), but I don't know if it would get much traffic.

Numanoid
02-29-12, 01:42 PM
I agree. TV should be for TV show discussion, Movies for Movie discussion.

Streaming could be to talk about the streaming services and their programming (not the programs), but I don't know if it would get much traffic.I agree. For instance, if you want to talk about the plot of a movie or TV show, you should post in the movie or TV forum (unless it's a streaming-only show, as mentioned). If you want to talk about how said TV show or movie is just out on Netflix, you should post in the streaming forum. Of course there will be overlap, but there already is in our existing fora, so who cares?

Sean O'Hara
02-29-12, 01:59 PM
I agree. TV should be for TV show discussion, Movies for Movie discussion.

Streaming could be to talk about the streaming services and their programming (not the programs), but I don't know if it would get much traffic.

What about for streaming-only programs? Netflix just added their first original series and we're sure to see more of that in the future.

Maybe it'd be best to create the forum and see how it evolves.

Tracer Bullet
02-29-12, 02:26 PM
What about for streaming-only programs? Netflix just added their first original series and we're sure to see more of that in the future.

Maybe it'd be best to create the forum and see how it evolves.

I agree. For instance, if you want to talk about the plot of a movie or TV show, you should post in the movie or TV forum (unless it's a streaming-only show, as mentioned). If you want to talk about how said TV show or movie is just out on Netflix, you should post in the streaming forum. Of course there will be overlap, but there already is in our existing fora, so who cares?

Sounds reasonable to me.

Brent L
02-29-12, 05:33 PM
I just noticed this thread. I have thought for months that a streaming folder would be a no-brainer. I'm shocked it hasn't been added without needing to ask for it to be honest. I want to talk about Netflix all the time but never know for sure where to start a thread, or which preexisting thread to post in. So yeah, I'm all for it. I vote for Entertainment as well fwiw.

DJariya
02-29-12, 05:37 PM
I think we have a consensus that it's a good idea, and it deserves it's own full forum.

There seems to be differing opinions on which section it should go under (Entertainment or DVD). I think people have made a good case for either location.

Should we set-up a poll or take a vote?

I think the consensus is Entertainment. Since this was your idea, you should PM Paul and let him know so they can get Streaming Talk going.

TheBigDave
02-29-12, 05:58 PM
Thanks everyone for all the input.

I sent Paul a PM that we have a consensus for a Streaming Talk forum in the Entertainment Discussions section.

Roy Batty
03-06-12, 02:10 PM
Yes, since HD content is streaming through several services, coupled with the array of devices that now stream, a dedicated forum would be a useful addition. My $.02

DRG
03-06-12, 04:35 PM
As I mentioned earlier, there is some programming premiering on Netflix like House of Cards this Fall and Arrested Development in 2013. Since they are "Streaming Only" shows, ideally the place to talk about them would be in "Streaming Talk." However, I can see people ignoring that and posting a thread about it in TV Talk.

I'm in the opposite camp. I think all show/episode-specific discussion content should stay in TV, regardless of delivery method. Just because the content is limited to streaming shouldn't change the nature of the content. Right now a "TV show" can be enjoyed on various formats: broadcast, cable, DVD/BR, DirecTV, streaming, VOD, and so on, and we don't divide up those discussions by delivery method. I guess I think of "TV" these days as more of a catchall term for entertainment of a certain nature versus something strictly related to broadcast/cable content. The same way I think a direct-to-DVD or VOD movie should be discussed in Movie Talk, although given my own reasoning I'm not exactly sure where made-for-tv movies should go. :)

Now I do think threads like 'List of Netflix Exclusive Programming' would belong in the Streaming thread.

Trevor
03-06-12, 04:47 PM
^ That's obvious to me too. If the conversation is about the TV show itself, it should be in TV Talk.

benedict
03-12-12, 08:25 AM
I've recently re-flagged this thread to IB in order that they (probably Paul) can see how the conversation developed and take action further to the reported consensus.

IBobi
03-12-12, 04:10 PM
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/streaming-talk-75/

Let me know if any alterations are necessary!

paul

Cardsfan111
03-12-12, 04:14 PM
Kinda tempted to go over and start a thread titled "first!" :)

Thanks, IBobi!

Trevor
03-12-12, 04:26 PM
Thanks Paul!

Trevor
03-12-12, 04:29 PM
Kinda tempted to go over and start a thread titled "first!" :)

Thanks, IBobi!
That's what my thread was going to be until I thought better of it.

TheBigDave
03-12-12, 06:09 PM
Thanks IBobi and benedict! I really appreciate it.

These days I'm streaming more content compared to watching DVDs/Blus. So I hope it turns into a great place to talk about that stuff.

davidh777
03-12-12, 06:14 PM
:banana:

The Cow
03-12-12, 06:19 PM
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/streaming-talk-75/

Let me know if any alterations are necessary!

paul

Can it be added in the forum jump list at the top of the site? (It's already in the one at the bottom).


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/PurpleLava/streaming.jpg

Dan
03-13-12, 12:03 AM
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/streaming-talk-75/

Let me know if any alterations are necessary!

paul

Thanks!

One minor gripe.
Shouldn't the description be changed from:

The Place to talk about streaming video
to:
The Place to talk about streaming video and audio

?

MrSmearkase
03-13-12, 09:19 AM
Thanks for creating the new forum!

IBobi
03-14-12, 02:19 PM
Can it be added in the forum jump list at the top of the site? (It's already in the one at the bottom).


http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/PurpleLava/streaming.jpg

Thanks!

One minor gripe.
Shouldn't the description be changed from:

The Place to talk about streaming video
to:
The Place to talk about streaming video and audio

?

Done and done.

sauce07
03-14-12, 02:36 PM
Had this question in a thread on the HD forum, looks like it would apply here. What can we discuss when it comes to ripping our dvd's for personal use? I understand methods of ripping the dvd's is a no no, but how about organizing and storage? or streaming those files to our TV's? Where is the line?

X
03-14-12, 06:31 PM
Had this question in a thread on the HD forum, looks like it would apply here. What can we discuss when it comes to ripping our dvd's for personal use? I understand methods of ripping the dvd's is a no no, but how about organizing and storage? or streaming those files to our TV's? Where is the line?Discussions of ripping, how to rip, etc. aren't allowed. File types you stream could have come from any source. But particular files, such as named TV shows that aren't available online, might get into issues of copyright infringement. Sharing copyrighted material is not allowed.