Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
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Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
By djariya at 2011-09-13
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Episode 13 of 22
1 more new episode left after tonight, then the show takes a 1 month break. Starting March 23rd, it will air 8 straight episodes non-stop to finish out the season.
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
Originally Posted by DJariya
Starting March 23rd, it will air 8 straight episodes non-stop to finish out the series.
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
Not again... this series/season ending nonsense is beyond our control.
I just hope we get a 15 ep Season 5 (that'll take them to 102 eps and clear them for syndication).
I just hope we get a 15 ep Season 5 (that'll take them to 102 eps and clear them for syndication).
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
To Fox's credit, they do seem to be doing everything they can to keep the series on. They are still negotiating with Warners and haven't canceled it yet.
I also don't think a 15 episode season is realistic. I think the way television economics work, they would either have to produce 12-13 episodes or 20-22. Anything outside of that range would cost too much.
I also don't think a 15 episode season is realistic. I think the way television economics work, they would either have to produce 12-13 episodes or 20-22. Anything outside of that range would cost too much.
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
cold blooded last few minutes
olivia snatched
olivia and nina in a dungeon like room
grumpy walter
really gonna miss this show when its gone
olivia snatched
olivia and nina in a dungeon like room
grumpy walter
really gonna miss this show when its gone
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Another good episode. I liked the Olivia stuff. I guess David wants to study the effects of the drugs on Olivia so he can adjust his experiment with merging universes.
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
I'm not sure how syndication works anymore but I didn't think the magic 100 number meant anything anymore?
Just another really good episode. As much as I like Lincoln there is just something about Peter and Olivia together that I just love. Their gas station conversation really got to me.
I think we're going to get another season, not holding my breath, I just think that this has a guaranteed viewership (albeit small) that Fox just won't get with a different scripted show on Friday night.
Just another really good episode. As much as I like Lincoln there is just something about Peter and Olivia together that I just love. Their gas station conversation really got to me.
I think we're going to get another season, not holding my breath, I just think that this has a guaranteed viewership (albeit small) that Fox just won't get with a different scripted show on Friday night.
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I have to say, I'm not liking "regular" Lincoln as a recurring character. I find his Orange self and performance much more interesting.
I guess this means Nina is a shape shifter? Although I wonder which one is the fake. Perhaps the one tied up with her is the fake and they'll use it to try and persuade her to help.
I thought Joshua Jackson actually had lot to work with in this episode. Some good work.
I'm still on the fence if this is just the Blue universe catching up to the events of Yellow now that Peter is back, or if Blue still exists somewhere and is bleeding over. Much like Peter, Olivia talking about the cemtex gives a clue, but not a definitive answer.
I guess this means Nina is a shape shifter? Although I wonder which one is the fake. Perhaps the one tied up with her is the fake and they'll use it to try and persuade her to help.
I thought Joshua Jackson actually had lot to work with in this episode. Some good work.
I'm still on the fence if this is just the Blue universe catching up to the events of Yellow now that Peter is back, or if Blue still exists somewhere and is bleeding over. Much like Peter, Olivia talking about the cemtex gives a clue, but not a definitive answer.
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Great episode. Love how they can still weave mythology story into the monster-of-the-week so seemlessly.
I feel bad for Peter. Next week looks awesome!
I feel bad for Peter. Next week looks awesome!
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
I'm impressed how they're dealing with A and A' universes merging. If they'd just said, "The universes merged," I'd have been left with so many questions. But many of the questions I had, they actually addressed. Olivia can remember the events of the A universe, but the events of A' are still there too, as a sort of dreamy-type memory. I don't so much care if it's a 100% believable solution (it's science fiction). But I do care that they're taking the issues head on and providing an explanation that makes sense in the Fringe universe. It's so much more rewarding than the normal TV approach of, "Just don't deal with it and hope they don't thinka bout it." Good stuff.
There's a part of me that understands the business realities, but we're really hoping for another season around my home. Make it work, Fox.
There's a part of me that understands the business realities, but we're really hoping for another season around my home. Make it work, Fox.
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
Great stuff as usual. Watched this last night.
I'm torn on the 2 theories. So, some of you are thinking this is the "Blue" Universe and Olivia's getting her memories back. But then, how come Broyles, Astrid, Walter haven't shown much progress? I know Walter has shown flashes of his old personality. I'm guessing that Olivia has fully regained all these memories because the character has a deeper connection to Peter.
The Merging Universe theory sounds a little more plausible. But then again I'm still torn. Only time will tell.
I'm a little confused about the ending. So Olivia got snatched, as well as Nina? So the person who showed Walter and Lincoln the drug was an Imposter?
I'm torn on the 2 theories. So, some of you are thinking this is the "Blue" Universe and Olivia's getting her memories back. But then, how come Broyles, Astrid, Walter haven't shown much progress? I know Walter has shown flashes of his old personality. I'm guessing that Olivia has fully regained all these memories because the character has a deeper connection to Peter.
The Merging Universe theory sounds a little more plausible. But then again I'm still torn. Only time will tell.
I'm a little confused about the ending. So Olivia got snatched, as well as Nina? So the person who showed Walter and Lincoln the drug was an Imposter?
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
I'm thinking Nina's been an imposter for a while. Earlier in the season she broke in to Olivias and gave her a shot of something
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
I ran across this trailer for this Friday's episode.
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The person kidnapped Nina for her hand print entrance to obtain the drug which is also why Olivia is the only one remembering her other self. The others weren't subjected to the drug.
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Love this show. Great episode. The mystery for me (among others, of course) is if there IS another, original universe, where the Hell is Olivia getting our universes memories from (obviously it has to do with alt Nina's chlortexiphan injections, but another piece is missing)
Next week looks great!
Next week looks great!
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
That makes sense. I also like the idea that because she and Peter had such a strong bond before and they are together now more than he is with the others that would account for her memory coming back before the others. Either way I love the show.
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Re: Fringe -- "A Better Human Being" -- 2/17/12
Sorry, just caught up to this episode a week late and read the thread. There was ample discussion after the Chuck finale about how 100 is no longer the magic number, and there is still hope if you don't get there.