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Sean O'Hara
03-16-12, 11:06 AM
Put it this way, if you are a father, particularly of a daughter, how would you feel knowing the dude picking her up when she's 16 has already seen everything, everything, there is to see regarding hardcore sex? Perhaps it is lost on the young, but there was a time when kids had no idea what they were doing and there was not this expectation of sexual prowess that there is today.

So you're upset that your daughter might be having good sex in high school instead of the inept fumbling you remember?

orangecrush
03-16-12, 11:08 AM
What are these ideas and why are they warped? Please phrase your response in a way that doesn't lead us to conclude that you're jealous that you never got a three-way with two hot co-eds in college.Well for one, there is a lot more kissing in a real relationship, a bit less calling your partner a whore and a whole lot less ATM. This isn't adult talk, so I don't want to get too graphic, but porn has been getting more extreme over time. People (mostly men) are watching more of it and it creates a cycle which does little to nurture the idea that sex is about mutual gratification.

Groucho
03-16-12, 11:10 AM
Well for one, there is a lot more kissing in a real relationship, a bit less calling your partner a whore and a whole lot less ATM.Speak for yourself. Every time I have sex there's ALWAYS a visit to the ATM involved.

orangecrush
03-16-12, 11:13 AM
Speak for yourself. Every time I have sex there's ALWAYS a visit to the ATM involved.:lol: I had to look up the acronym a while ago and there is no way any normal woman or dude would think of doing that absent porn.

Sean O'Hara
03-16-12, 11:20 AM
Well for one, there is a lot more kissing in a real relationship, a bit less calling your partner a whore and a whole lot less ATM. This isn't adult talk, so I don't want to get too graphic, but porn has been getting more extreme over time. People (mostly men) are watching more of it and it creates a cycle which does little to nurture the idea that sex is about mutual gratification.

So have you watched enough modern teenagers having sex to determine that there's been a marked decrease in kissing since you were their age and an increase in misogynistic language?

MoviePage
03-16-12, 11:32 AM
Watching porn doesn't make 16 year olds know what they're doing when they have sex.

This exactly. I think the "porn has a negative effect on real-life sex" argument holds about as much water as the "violence in movies leads to real-life violence" argument.

:lol: I had to look up the acronym a while ago and there is no way any normal woman or dude would think of doing that absent porn.

Did you look it up because of the cupcake thread?

Tracer Bullet
03-16-12, 12:31 PM
:lol: I had to look up the acronym a while ago and there is no way any normal woman or dude would think of doing that absent porn.

Speak for yourself, buddy.

Tracer Bullet
03-16-12, 12:32 PM
Although I do think porn creates unrealistic expectations, it doesn't make people better at fulfilling those expectations. That's why the adjective "unrealistic" goes before "expectations."

Ranger
03-16-12, 12:35 PM
Facebook also hurts marriages and relationships.

Mark Zuckerberg needs to be stopped!

CRM114
03-16-12, 12:40 PM
So you're upset that your daughter might be having good sex in high school instead of the inept fumbling you remember?

If you consider fake porn sex "good" then yes.

How many kids do you have?

BTW, I knew this thread would go in this direction. There are people who remember life before internet porn and there are those who do not. Nothing will change this fact.

wendersfan
03-16-12, 12:46 PM
Wow, the one time CRM espouses something even approximating a 'social conservative' stance on an issue, and you guys are all over him like anal warts on Sacha Gray.

wishbone
03-16-12, 12:58 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2u7sqc5.jpg

"I love book." :wub:

grundle
03-16-12, 01:00 PM
:lol: I had to look up the acronym a while ago and there is no way any normal woman or dude would think of doing that absent porn.

I had to look it up too.

Oh my gosh!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_Telescope_Making

grundle
03-16-12, 01:03 PM
There are people who remember life before internet porn and there are those who do not. Nothing will change this fact.

I find the Sears catalog to be a lot sexier than porn.

Sean O'Hara
03-16-12, 01:13 PM
If you consider fake porn sex "good" then yes.

You said that back in your day, "kids had no idea what they were doing," which doesn't sound good to me.

How many kids do you have?

None, which is hardly relevant to the question.

BTW, I knew this thread would go in this direction. There are people who remember life before internet porn and there are those who do not. Nothing will change this fact.

I remember what it was like. Waking up early during the summer so I'd have the maximum time possible to browse my dad's collection of Playboy and Penthouse Forum while my parents were at work, making sure my dad's porn tapes were rewound to 0:00 on the timer so he wouldn't notice I'd been watching them, staying up late on Saturdays to watch T&A flicks on USA and later Skinemax. Good times.

Aren't there some teenagers you can chase of your lawn?

Navinabob
03-16-12, 01:16 PM
Well, if you are worried about porn teaching kids how to give blow jobs and lap-dances, then you might want to crack down on it. If you want to keep that same kid from getting raped, you might think about being pro-porn. In just about every modern country in the world, as porn becomes more prevalent, sex crime rates either stay the same, or go down. In Japan, where much of "extreme sex" and sex targeted to teens first took root, there was a giant decrease in sexual violence.

I'm linking to a good (long read) study with a lot of good data to think about. What is really impressive is that reporting rates have gone up, meaning fewer women and kids are indicating that they previously didn't report being sexually victimized. Much of that is because sex has less shame attached to it these days due to increased exposure.

It's funny how something can be both degrading to women (really, you can't argue that its not) and empowering at the same time. Other contradictions confuse things like: sexual predators have tons of porn, but, as more people have porn, fewer people become sexual predators. It's fascinating research.

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1999-pornography-rape-sex-crimes-japan.html

CRM114
03-16-12, 01:51 PM
Wow, the one time CRM espouses something even approximating a 'social conservative' stance on an issue, and you guys are all over him like anal warts on Sacha Gray.

:lol: Nothing like internet porn to rouse a forum of dudes on the internet.

CRM114
03-16-12, 01:57 PM
You said that back in your day, "kids had no idea what they were doing," which doesn't sound good to me.

You figured it out together and it was good.

None, which is hardly relevant to the question.

If you are going to comment on parenting, it's absolutely relevant.

I remember what it was like. Waking up early during the summer so I'd have the maximum time possible to browse my dad's collection of Playboy and Penthouse Forum while my parents were at work, making sure my dad's porn tapes were rewound to 0:00 on the timer so he wouldn't notice I'd been watching them, staying up late on Saturdays to watch T&A flicks on USA and later Skinemax. Good times.

Aren't there some teenagers you can chase of your lawn?

Ewww, your dad had porn tapes? And yes, those WERE good times. Times when 15 year old boys weren't perfectly familiar with sex acts only porn stars do for entertainment purposes. And yes, I chase the punkasses off my lawn all the time, especially if they are looking for my daughter.

Sean O'Hara
03-16-12, 02:05 PM
You figured it out together and it was good.

Did the girl feel the same way?


If you are going to comment on parenting, it's absolutely relevant.

I'm not discussing parenting. I'm discussing the effect of porn on individuals.

Ewww, your dad had porn tapes? And yes, those WERE good times. Times when 15 year old boys weren't perfectly familiar with sex acts only porn stars do for entertainment purposes. And yes, I chase the punkasses off my lawn all the time, especially if they are looking for my daughter.

Of course my dad had porn tapes, and girls came over all the time to watch them with me. Just because you lived a sheltered life before the Internet exposed you to the full range of depraved sex doesn't mean the rest of us did.

joeblow69
03-16-12, 02:11 PM
CRM114 at the beach
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR4s64bUvmuJThoaToUvDY9ZOvnUfIT1pxvUeZlgBZR2pPwlPS1KA

classicman2
03-16-12, 02:12 PM
I thought this was the 'dirtiest' primary I've seen. However, after watching some replays of the caustic remarks made by Obama & H. Clinton the GOP primary seems rather tepid. ;)

I had forgotten about the caustic comments made by Obama & Clinton in the 2008 Democratic Primary.

X
03-16-12, 02:16 PM
I thought this was the 'dirtiest' primary I've seen. However, after watching some replays of the caustic remarks made by Obama & H. Clinton the GOP primary seems rather tepid. ;)

I had forgotten about the caustic comments made by Obama & Clinton in the 2008 Democratic Primary.It works that way.

I remember how unpleasant it was with the Democrats 4 years ago (people even thought Hillary was going to fight all the way through the convention) and laugh when people say the same type of thing is destroying Republican chances in November.

Tracer Bullet
03-16-12, 02:18 PM
It works that way.

I remember how unpleasant it was with the Democrats 4 years ago (people even thought Hillary was going to fight all the way through the convention) and laugh when people say the same type of thing is destroying Republican chances in November.

I read something that summed up the difference (paraphrasing): The difference is that in 2008, Democrats were trying to decide which candidate excited them the most. In 2012, Republicans are trying to decide which candidate repulses them the least.

X
03-16-12, 02:25 PM
I read something that summed up the difference (paraphrasing): The difference is that in 2008, Democrats were trying to decide which candidate excited them the most. In 2012, Republicans are trying to decide which candidate repulses them the least.In some cases yes, in some cases no. I sure wasn't voting for Obama, I was voting against Clinton. It was hard for me to get excited about someone who I knew was going to screw up the country but Obama had one thing going for him -- he wasn't Hillary.

CRM114
03-16-12, 02:33 PM
Did the girl feel the same way?

Of course, because she wasn't expecting what she saw in a porn.

I'm not discussing parenting. I'm discussing the effect of porn on individuals.

Yet you are responding to my initial post speaking as a parent. You are saying that porn has a POSITIVE effect on teenagers yet the only knowledge you have of teenagers is looking back on your own youth. (Which, I must admit, is a very curious position.)

Of course my dad had porn tapes, and girls came over all the time to watch them with me. Just because you lived a sheltered life before the Internet exposed you to the full range of depraved sex doesn't mean the rest of us did.

It wasn't sheltered at all. But I didn't need porn to get chicks. And thankfully, my dad didn't have stacks of porn tapes laying around.

Tracer Bullet
03-16-12, 02:33 PM
In some cases yes, in some cases no. I sure wasn't voting for Obama, I was voting against Clinton. It was hard for me to get excited about someone who I knew was going to screw up the country but Obama had one thing going for him -- he wasn't Hillary.

I agree. It's not a perfect analogy by any means. In the aggregate I think it's fairly accurate though.

dork
03-16-12, 02:37 PM
I thought this was the 'dirtiest' primary I've seen.
You should borrow "Republican Primary Erection" from Sean O'Hara's dad.

orangecrush
03-16-12, 02:37 PM
So have you watched enough modern teenagers having sex to determine that there's been a marked decrease in kissing since you were their age and an increase in misogynistic language?Please don't tell their parents about my cameras.

JasonF
03-16-12, 02:55 PM
I have a solution! We don't need toilet paper. That's what Sears-Roebuck catalogs for for. :)

I find the Sears catalog to be a lot sexier than porn.

:whofart:

cpgator
03-16-12, 03:11 PM
Of course my dad had porn tapes, and girls came over all the time to watch them with me.

Yea, sure they did.

wishbone
03-16-12, 03:13 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/24o349v.jpg

Wife:  This new catalogue is toilet paper!
Husband:  No, this new catalogue is porn!
Wife:  It's toilet paper!
Husband:  It's porn!
Wife:  It's toilet paper, I'm telling you!
Husband:  It's porn, you cow!
Spokesman:  Hey, hey, hey, calm down, you two. This new catalogue is both toilet paper and porn!

Jason
03-16-12, 03:52 PM
Put it this way, if you are a father, particularly of a daughter, how would you feel knowing the dude picking her up when she's 16 has already seen everything, everything, there is to see regarding hardcore sex? Perhaps it is lost on the young, but there was a time when kids had no idea what they were doing and there was not this expectation of sexual prowess that there is today.

Yeah, and back then the teenage pregnancy rate was precisely zero, sexually transmitted diseases hadn't even been invented yet, and only hollywood perverts like Fatty Arbuckle were ever accused or rape.

DaveyJoe
03-16-12, 04:24 PM
Yet you are responding to my initial post speaking as a parent. You are saying that porn has a POSITIVE effect on teenagers yet the only knowledge you have of teenagers is looking back on your own youth. (Which, I must admit, is a very curious position.)

I hear it's quite popular in Europe.

MoviePage
03-16-12, 05:11 PM
I'm leaving this thread to search for the portal back to reality. When I visit again and don't see CRM114 speaking as the lone voice of puritanical conservatism, I'll know that things are back the way they should be.

Artman
03-16-12, 09:05 PM
Isn't CRM a committed lib? Why would he/she care? Don't the Dems want to see every inclination be applauded and supported publicly?

MoviePage
03-16-12, 09:12 PM
Don't the Dems want to see every inclination be applauded and supported publicly?

I see what you did there, but no.

Sean O'Hara
03-16-12, 09:30 PM
Of course, because she wasn't expecting what she saw in a porn.

I'm sure that's what she told you. But for guys, even bad sex is good sex. For women, bad sex is, at best, boring, at worse uncomfortable. I'm sure most would prefer a guy who at least has an idea where the clitoris is.

Yet you are responding to my initial post speaking as a parent.

So? "Think of the children" is a stupid argument to begin with, and adding, "Your opinion doesn't count if you aren't a parent too," doesn't make it better. You don't get a monopoly on having an opinion on the subject just because you've spawned.

You are saying that porn has a POSITIVE effect on teenagers yet the only knowledge you have of teenagers is looking back on your own youth. (Which, I must admit, is a very curious position.)

No, I'm mocking the idea that porn has a deleterious effect on teenagers. It didn't on me.

It wasn't sheltered at all. But I didn't need porn to get chicks. And thankfully, my dad didn't have stacks of porn tapes laying around.

Why do you privilege your own upbringing over everyone else's?

Jason
03-16-12, 09:32 PM
Isn't CRM a committed lib? Why would he/she care? Don't the Dems want to see every inclination be applauded and supported publicly?

Yes, because they all march lockstep in slavish devotion to an agenda set by someone else.

Sean O'Hara
03-16-12, 09:35 PM
Yea, sure they did.

If you really want, I can put you in touch with the girl who got my father's Playboy/Penthouse collection when he decided to get rid of it (we had to get a friend with a van to help us haul it all away).

CRM114
03-16-12, 11:21 PM
I'm sure that's what she told you. But for guys, even bad sex is good sex. For women, bad sex is, at best, boring, at worse uncomfortable. I'm sure most would prefer a guy who at least has an idea where the clitoris is.

:lol: Sorry, the only point is that kids figured this out quite well without having to watch the pizza man bang the MILF in the ass on the kitchen counter. If you feel that is beneficial to a developing person, that's your prerogative.

Superboy
03-17-12, 04:44 AM
:lol: Sorry, the only point is that kids figured this out quite well without having to watch the pizza man bang the MILF in the ass on the kitchen counter. If you feel that is beneficial to a developing person, that's your prerogative.

Jesus christ almighty I haven't seen anyone get fucking hammered this hard over porn since... that last porno I watched.

Just because the man disagrees doesn't mean he wants to launch a crusade against it. Remember, you're allowed to disagree in a democracy, but that doesn't necessarily give you the right to make it the law.

Jason
03-17-12, 07:26 AM
Just because the man disagrees doesn't mean he wants to launch a crusade against it. Remember, you're allowed to disagree in a democracy, but that doesn't necessarily give you the right to make it the law.

I wish someone would tell rick santorum this.

Th0r S1mpson
03-17-12, 09:29 AM
Well, he really hasn't outlined any specific laws yet, that I can see. I'd have to see the details before I disagree with any proposed legislation.

Sean O'Hara
03-17-12, 09:36 AM
Well, he really hasn't outlined any specific laws yet, that I can see. I'd have to see the details before I disagree with any proposed legislation.

I don't.

Jason
03-17-12, 09:54 AM
Well, he really hasn't outlined any specific laws yet, that I can see. I'd have to see the details before I disagree with any proposed legislation.

He's not going to make new laws, just "vigorously enforce" the ones we have.

Congress has responded. Current federal “obscenity” laws prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier. Rick Santorum believes that federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced. “If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so.”

http://www.ricksantorum.com/enforcing-laws-against-illegal-pornography

So in other words, he's going to either look the other way while his hatchet man attorney general makes his own rules, a la joe arpaio, or he's going to completely ignore the "problem" once elected.

Th0r S1mpson
03-17-12, 10:46 AM
He's not going to make new laws, just "vigorously enforce" the ones we have.

Wow, that sounds truly awful. I hope Obama gets rid of those obscenity laws while there's still hope!

Dr Mabuse
03-17-12, 12:03 PM
It's been a rather open secret for years that the majority of porn made in the US violates the obscenity laws. The porn industry is well aware of it. It's just not enforced for whatever reason.

On another topic...

This "the US has more oil than Saudi Arabia" horseshit that Gingrich was spewing the other night is now being pushed as Republican propaganda. In the last two days I've heard that repeated by four different people on various news networks. Two pundits, a senator, and a circus clown - Donald Trump. It's definitely being pushed now. I guess they assume, from long experience that proves it, that Americans are stupid enough to believe it. I assume they are.

DVD Polizei
03-17-12, 12:15 PM
Maybe he meant we have more SYNTHETIC oil than SA.

Th0r S1mpson
03-17-12, 01:48 PM
This "the US has more oil than Saudi Arabia" horseshit

I'm sure there are a fair number of horses in Saudi Arabia, but unless you have data to refute the point, I'm not going to doubt it.

JasonF
03-17-12, 02:59 PM
Maybe he meant the US has more owls than Saudi Arabia.

wishbone
03-17-12, 03:02 PM
Trillions!

Ranger
03-18-12, 09:53 PM
In Puerto Rico, at 52% counted, Romney is leading at 83%. Huge lead, would that be the highest percentage so far for him?

Tommy Ceez
03-18-12, 10:00 PM
Romney does excelent in places he won't win or don't really count

wendersfan
03-19-12, 05:43 AM
Romney does excelent in places he won't win or don't really countAnother way of saying that is that Romney does the best in swing states of all the GOP candidates.

classicman2
03-19-12, 07:26 AM
If Romney doesn't have the necessary convention delegates at the end of the primary season, do you believe the candidates will get together and decide on one (most likely Romney) so there won't be a 'fight' at the GOP convention? The conventional wisdom is that a deadlocked convention would be a disaster for the GOP candidate in November.

Dr Mabuse
03-19-12, 09:06 AM
Newt staying in has saved Romney's campaign.

Venusian
03-19-12, 09:40 AM
Newt staying in has saved Romney's campaign.

NPR referred to a poll that showed that Romney is actually the 2nd choice for most of Newt's voters. So Newt staying in maybe saving Santorum

Dr Mabuse
03-19-12, 09:58 AM
Stop listening to NPR.

:)

Venusian
03-19-12, 10:04 AM
A poll of 1,900 registered Republicans between March 8 and March 15 put Romney in first place with 34 percent of the vote, Santorum in second with 28 percent and Gingrich and Ron Paul trailing with 15 percent and 11 percent. If Gingrich's supporters were distributed among their second choices, Romney would have 40 percent, Santorum 33 percent and Paul 13 percent.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/03/17/Gingrich-supporters-split-on-2nd-choice/UPI-31911331961370/#ixzz1pZjmG9Ex

wendersfan
03-19-12, 10:12 AM
I think it's funny how people are still talking about the possibility of a brokered convention.

Oh, and while I'm at it, who's on board for some Roementum (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/buddy-roemer-beating-gingrich-paul-in-puerto-rico/)?!

Dr Mabuse
03-19-12, 10:18 AM
No no no, I wasn't disputing that such a poll existed as you described, I was just giving off topic advice on not listening to NPR.

;)

Also, Gingrich is helping Romney. Without Gingrich staying in Santorum would be in the lead now, in spite of the games played in Iowa to help Romney come out as the supposed 'winner'. Santorum would then most likely be destroyed running against Obama, which is why the GOP establishment likes Gingrich staying in.

Th0r S1mpson
03-19-12, 10:27 AM
I think it's funny how people are still talking about the possibility of a brokered convention.

So you honestly think Obama is just going to waltz right in there without Hillary planting some delegates? The only question really is how many and will it be enough.

Tommy Ceez
03-20-12, 01:37 PM
This farce ends tonight

Tracer Bullet
03-20-12, 01:59 PM
This farce ends tonight

I really hope not :(

JasonF
03-20-12, 02:19 PM
This farce ends tonight

Doubtful. At this point, Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul have nowhere to go but up. If they've stayed in this long, there's no reason to believe they won't stay in until the convention.

wishbone
03-20-12, 02:36 PM
<html><table border=0><tr><td><img src=http://i39.tinypic.com/mrr52f.jpg></td></tr><tr><td align=left>No place to go but up!</td></tr><tr><td align=right><font color=blue>Unless we stay right here!</font></td></tr></table></html>

Th0r S1mpson
03-20-12, 03:48 PM
This farce ends tonight

Someone has the real birth certificate?

Groucho
03-20-12, 04:06 PM
This farce ends tonightWhen they cut a trailer for this thread, I'm sure this will be one of the featured lines.

DaveyJoe
03-20-12, 04:42 PM
Starting tonight.. people will die.

Dr Mabuse
03-20-12, 04:51 PM
In a world...

Tommy Ceez
03-20-12, 06:43 PM
An entire primary season with no discernable momentum

Th0r S1mpson
03-20-12, 07:04 PM
An entire primary season with no discernable momentum

Only because none of these guys is named Mo.

Tracer Bullet
03-21-12, 08:18 AM
Okay, that's over. When's the next primary that Santorum is favored to win?

CRM114
03-21-12, 08:27 AM
An entire primary season with no discernable momentum

Momentum downward, perhaps.

VA-2012 President: 50% Obama (D), 42% Romney (R) (Quinnipiac 3/13-18) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/20/va-2012-president-50-obam_n_1367014.html)

Ouch.

dork
03-21-12, 08:33 AM
Okay, that's over. When's the next primary that Santorum is favored to win?

Well, what's a state with no major population centers or universities?

Tracer Bullet
03-21-12, 08:42 AM
Well, what's a state with no major population centers or universities?

Santorum is going to win the Delaware primary? :eek:

dork
03-21-12, 08:50 AM
Santorum is going to win the Delaware primary? :eek:

I said state, you goofball. -ohbfrank-

classicman2
03-21-12, 09:02 AM
It would be politically & monetarily smart for Romney & Santorum to get together and agree to Santorum quitting the race. In turn Romney would agree to pay off any campaign debts that Santorum might have. Romney might even sweeten the pot & tell him a nice cabinet post would be available if he is elected - but the VP post isn't available.

That leaves only Gingrich & Paul - one determined to restore some of his credibility & political power he once had. The other - don't pay any attention to him.

CRM114
03-21-12, 11:16 AM
It's always helpful to have fellow candidates out telling the people they "need to stop Romney." Gingrich only has credibility with toothless yokels in the south.

Did anyone notice that Santorum got absolutely hammered by Catholics in Illinois? I think there is something to this north-south thing. :)

Jason
03-21-12, 03:51 PM
It would be politically & monetarily smart for Romney & Santorum to get together and agree to Santorum quitting the race. In turn Romney would agree to pay off any campaign debts that Santorum might have. Romney might even sweeten the pot & tell him a nice cabinet post would be available if he is elected - but the VP post isn't available.

That leaves only Gingrich & Paul - one determined to restore some of his credibility & political power he once had. The other - don't pay any attention to him.

It's only a matter of time. I think it's time to put the fantasy of a santorum candidacy to bed. He's young enough that he can build on what he has now and can run in 2016 against Hillary or Biden.

Th0r S1mpson
03-21-12, 04:19 PM
I think it's time to put the fantasy of a santorum candidacy to bed.

Your bedroom fantasies are disturbing, but I support your right to them.

TheBigDave
03-21-12, 05:34 PM
Okay, that's over. When's the next primary that Santorum is favored to win?

According to RealClearPolitics, here's the polls for the rest of March and April:

Louisiana - Santorum +8.5
Wisconsin - Santorum +16
Pennsylvania - Santorum +15.5
New York - Romney +15
Connecticut - Romney +15
Rhode Island - Romney +26
Maryland & DC - No Data

wendersfan
03-21-12, 06:01 PM
There hasn't been a GOP primary poll for Wisconsin in almost a month.

Jason
03-21-12, 06:59 PM
Your bedroom fantasies are disturbing, but I support your right to them.

What can I say? Sweater vests are teh hot!

Jason
03-21-12, 07:04 PM
There hasn't been a GOP primary poll for Wisconsin in almost a month.

I can see him taking Wisconsin, but I really don't see Pennsylvania turning around and embracing the guy after his 2006 trouncing.

CRM114
03-22-12, 08:08 AM
It's only a matter of time. I think it's time to put the fantasy of a santorum candidacy to bed. He's young enough that he can build on what he has now and can run in 2016 against Hillary or Biden.

As a private citizen working as a lobbyist for 10 years? How would that work?

I can see him taking Wisconsin, but I really don't see Pennsylvania turning around and embracing the guy after his 2006 trouncing.

These are Repubs we're talking about. There will be no Dems or Independents voting so Santorum has a chance. It's just a matter of whether the sensible eastern business Repubs outnumber the midwestern-type western PA Repubs.

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 08:26 AM
All right! Louisiana, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, don't let me down! Let's keep the Santorum train rolling!

slop101
03-22-12, 10:52 AM
Out of these three (Gingrich, Romney, Santorum); who would you most like to see debate Obama and why?

Me, Santorum, because it'd be funny.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 11:03 AM
It would be funny to hear Obama defend porn and the reasons he isn't enforcing laws on the books.

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 12:37 PM
It would be funny to hear Obama defend porn and the reasons he isn't enforcing laws on the books.

It would be difficult for Obama to enforce state law.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 01:06 PM
It would be difficult for Obama to enforce state law.

Difficult, you say.

"What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility - a recognition, on the part of every American, that we have duties to ourselves, our nation, and the world, duties that we do not grudgingly accept but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character, than giving our all to a difficult task.”
-Barack Obama

joeblow69
03-22-12, 01:26 PM
Well maybe the Pres just doesn't think the porn out there is all that obscene? It's all very subjective, and I'm sure there's a huge difference between what Santorum thinks is obscene, and what normal people do.

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 01:36 PM
Maybe they can watch some porn during a debate and they can each buzz in at whatever point the first obscene part happens?

Tracer Bullet
03-22-12, 01:43 PM
Maybe they can watch some porn during a debate and they can each buzz in at whatever point the first obscene part happens?

I don't think Cinemax has much interest in broadcasting presidential debates.

Jaymole
03-22-12, 04:43 PM
It would be funny to hear Obama defend porn and the reasons he isn't enforcing laws on the books.

Right, because that is one of the issues uppermost in people's minds for this election

Th0r S1mpson
03-22-12, 05:06 PM
Exactly.

CRM114
03-23-12, 07:49 AM
Santorum:

“You win by giving people a choice,” Santorum said during a campaign stop in Texas. “You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there.”

Santorum added: “If they’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk of what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate for the future.”

Jaymole
03-23-12, 08:35 AM
Exactly.

Forget the economy, jobs, education, foreign policy...it's the obscenity law that Obama is going to have some answers for -rolleyes-

Th0r S1mpson
03-23-12, 09:24 AM
Exactly.

Jaymole
03-23-12, 10:36 AM
Exactly.

http://lolbamas.com/blog/thatsnotfunny128630893950560268.jpg

Th0r S1mpson
03-23-12, 10:44 AM
Santorum:

“You win by giving people a choice,” Santorum said during a campaign stop in Texas. “You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there.”

Santorum added: “If they’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk of what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate for the future.”

It's hard to believe Santorum crossed that line. He's going to be pressed on this and if he digs in his heels on that comment, things are going to be a lot uglier than they have been until now. It will be hard to unify the party down the road if supporters start adopting this line of thinking.

Of course, I think I would prefer Obama to Romney, so.... :)

Tracer Bullet
03-23-12, 10:46 AM
Exactly.

Jaymole
03-23-12, 11:58 AM
Exactly.

:thumbsup:

TheBigDave
03-23-12, 06:14 PM
According to RealClearPolitics, here's the polls for the rest of March and April:

Louisiana - Santorum +8.5
Wisconsin - Santorum +16
Pennsylvania - Santorum +15.5
New York - Romney +15
Connecticut - Romney +15
Rhode Island - Romney +26
Maryland & DC - No Data

New poll from Rasmussen has Romney up +13 in Wisconsin.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/wisconsin/2012_wisconsin_republican_primary

Th0r S1mpson
03-24-12, 11:39 PM
Wow... Santorum was projected to win by double digits in Louisiana, but it turned into a veritable thumping. 22 point lead at the moment and almost a majority of all votes. Anyone confident of Romney closing this deal soon needs to reconsider.

Also, I'm not sure how delegates are handed out there, but Ron Paul got another 6% to display an apparent weakness. Oh, I'm afraid his deflector shield will be quite operational when the convention arrives.

chowderhead
03-25-12, 12:35 AM
Wow... Santorum was projected to win by double digits in Louisiana, but it turned into a veritable thumping. 22 point lead at the moment and almost a majority of all votes. Anyone confident of Romney closing this deal soon needs to reconsider.

Also, I'm not sure how delegates are handed out there, but Ron Paul got another 6% to display an apparent weakness. Oh, I'm afraid his deflector shield will be quite operational when the convention arrives.


Romney got a little over 25% so he is not shut out of delegates though he only won Orleans Parish out of 64 parishes. Final count should be around 10-5 or 11-4 with 5 uncommitted delegates and 18 to be selected later plus 3 super delegates. Seriously, Romney is lame but this is over. There isn't enough states left that favor Santorum and even still, because of the proportional rule, Romney will still net delegates and eventually win the nomination.

Josh-da-man
03-25-12, 12:45 AM
Wow... Santorum was projected to win by double digits in Louisiana, but it turned into a veritable thumping. 22 point lead at the moment and almost a majority of all votes. Anyone confident of Romney closing this deal soon needs to reconsider.

Romney should win easily in New York and California. I think CA is a winner-take-all state, so that should help him along quite a bit. He should also do well in NY even though it's proportional. Romney should take Utah.

I could see Santorum taking Texas by a good margin, though. He's going to do well in the remaining midwest and south, but it's not going to be enough to overtake Romney.

I think Virginia is the only "bible belt" state Santorum has lost to Romney; mostly because he wasn't on the ballot. And Rick would have had GA and SC if Gingrich wasn't on the ballot. (Was he even on the ballot in SC?)

chowderhead
03-25-12, 01:11 AM
Romney should win easily in New York and California. I think CA is a winner-take-all state, so that should help him along quite a bit. He should also do well in NY even though it's proportional. Romney should take Utah.

I could see Santorum taking Texas by a good margin, though. He's going to do well in the remaining midwest and south, but it's not going to be enough to overtake Romney.

I think Virginia is the only "bible belt" state Santorum has lost to Romney; mostly because he wasn't on the ballot. And Rick would have had GA and SC if Gingrich wasn't on the ballot. (Was he even on the ballot in SC?)

California is a modified winner takes all state with WTA in each Congressional District. Romney is probably favored but he may lose most of the Republican Congressional Districts and carry the Democratic held ones.
Mark Penn who was Hillary Clinton's strategist also thought California was WTA and he helped Clinton lose to Obama.

ETA: for the Republican, 10 delegates goes to the winner of the state overall, the rest of them is winner takes all by Congressional District. Pelosi's district has the same number of delegates as McCarthy's or Rohrabacher's

Superboy
03-25-12, 06:12 AM
Oh, I'm afraid his deflector shield will be quite operational when the convention arrives.

:lol:

Jason
03-25-12, 01:49 PM
Wow... Santorum was projected to win by double digits in Louisiana, but it turned into a veritable thumping. 22 point lead at the moment and almost a majority of all votes. Anyone confident of Romney closing this deal soon needs to reconsider.

Eh, wake me when some big states vote for him.

santorum does great in the bible belt and states that are geographically separate but ideologically similar to the BB, but in swing states he routinely strikes out. santorum wins Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana? Wow. Like any republican candidate would lose there in the fall. How did he do in Ohio or Illinois?

Th0r S1mpson
03-25-12, 02:00 PM
The point isn't that Santorum is going to somehow top Romney before the convention. The point is that it's increasingly likely that he will not drop out and Romney will be unable to secure the number of delegates required to win.

Also... the primary schedule looks amazingly thin over the next 2 months. This could be painful.

Jason
03-25-12, 03:04 PM
The point isn't that Santorum is going to somehow top Romney before the convention. The point is that it's increasingly likely that he will not drop out and Romney will be unable to secure the number of delegates required to win.

Also... the primary schedule looks amazingly thin over the next 2 months. This could be painful.

A few of the bigger winner-take-all states might change his mind, but he's not going to put on his concession-face and give his support to romney.

If you think it's been ugly so far, you ain't seen nothing yet.

aktick
03-25-12, 04:37 PM
New poll from Rasmussen has Romney up +13 in Wisconsin.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/wisconsin/2012_wisconsin_republican_primary

Everyone I've talked to here plan on voting for Romney or Paul, and most think Santorum is nuts.

Superboy
03-25-12, 06:34 PM
The point isn't that Santorum is going to somehow top Romney before the convention. The point is that it's increasingly likely that he will not drop out and Romney will be unable to secure the number of delegates required to win.


:lol:

Did you do that on purpose?

TheMovieman
03-25-12, 06:40 PM
At this point, it seems Santorum basically is willing to give Obama a second term if he decides to drag it out... I have to wonder what his end game is. A couple months ago he could argue he'd have a chance but at this point even with Louisiana, he's still 300+ delegates behind Romney and that will only build when Romney wins DC, Maryland and probably Wisconsin.

After that is Missouri which Santorum will win but split delegates with Romney (though I read it's a non-binding caucus), New York where Romney will win the lion's share followed by Pennsylvania where Santorum will obviously win and then some northeast states where Romney should win handily.

Then you get some big delegate splits. Santorum will carry Texas. Romney will carry California. And the last 5 contests Romney should win all of them (New Jersey, South Dakota, Montana, New Mexico and Utah). So where is Santorum going with this and how can he argue at the convention that he's the guy who should get the nomination? If that somehow does happen, Gary Johnson got my vote just out of protest.

Sean O'Hara
03-25-12, 09:58 PM
Everyone I've talked to here plan on voting for Romney or Paul, and most think Santorum is nuts.

Well, yeah. That's what happens when you have a state that isn't full of inbred hicks.

MoviePage
03-25-12, 09:59 PM
At this point, it seems Santorum basically is willing to give Obama a second term if he decides to drag it out... I have to wonder what his end game is.
...
So where is Santorum going with this and how can he argue at the convention that he's the guy who should get the nomination?

Sometimes there's just no explanation for crazy.

TheMovieman
03-25-12, 11:03 PM
Sometimes there's just no explanation for crazy.

So true. Well, if this does drag on and goes to the convention and Obama gets a second term, hopefully Santorum becomes a pariah in the GOP.

Mammal
03-26-12, 05:52 AM
So true. Well, if this does drag on and goes to the convention and Obama gets a second term, hopefully Santorum becomes a pariah in the GOP.

Never happen, as long as the gop panders to the religious nut/tea party "base" that comprises half the party but a quarter of the electorate.

CRM114
03-26-12, 08:12 AM
Santorum's "end game" is that he now thinks he has a legitimate shot in 2016. You know, after 10 years of doing nothing but lobbying for coal companies.

classicman2
03-26-12, 08:47 AM
Lobbying is an honorable profession.

Th0r S1mpson
03-26-12, 09:01 AM
Why is the primary schedule so extended from this point on? I know (or assume based on what we've heard) that the nomination is usually wrapped up by now. So why would states choose either irrelevance or such a long race, if a long race is unhealthy for a party? Or did these late primaries used to be more reasonable before states started moving their dates up earlier and earlier?

CRM114
03-26-12, 09:18 AM
I think a lot of states just moved their elections up.

It would be nice for once if the election was front loaded with large states like California, Texas, New York, and Pennsylvania. You know, where you find people and commerce? (We did have FL and IL I guess.)

classicman2
03-26-12, 09:27 AM
Never happen, as long as the gop panders to the religious nut/tea party "base" that comprises half the party but a quarter of the electorate.


A presidential candidate (in either party) has to 'pander' to it's base - especially during the primaries.

Mammal
03-26-12, 12:06 PM
Yes, but these candidates are going completely overboard with it, taking wildly extreme positions that will turn off moderate voters, if there are any left in the party. Romney will win the nomination, but can't win the election without performing an olympic gold medal flipflop.

WCChiCubsFan
03-26-12, 02:30 PM
I think a lot of states just moved their elections up.

It would be nice for once if the election was front loaded with large states like California, Texas, New York, and Pennsylvania. You know, where you find people and commerce? (We did have FL and IL I guess.)Good God man, that would deprive Iowa of its' fifteen minutes of fame it experiences every four years.

Sean O'Hara
03-26-12, 02:41 PM
Well, the production values are better than the Daisy ad ...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DApjHZq9o7M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Jason
03-26-12, 07:26 PM
I miss herman cain...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EdpN5C1_flQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Jason
03-26-12, 07:28 PM
I think a lot of states just moved their elections up.

It would be nice for once if the election was front loaded with large states like California, Texas, New York, and Pennsylvania. You know, where you find people and commerce? (We did have FL and IL I guess.)

I think we should have five primaries, 10 states each, with a mixture of small and large geographically diverse states each month. Hold them the first Tuesday of February through June. And every presidential cycle they rotate months.

tommyp007
03-26-12, 07:38 PM
well, the production values are better than the daisy ad ...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dapjhzq9o7m" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

wtf?

chowderhead
03-29-12, 01:29 PM
There are rumors in SC that Gov. Haley will soon be indicted.
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/17287096/article-gov-haley-may-face-indictments

No VeeP considerations for her (since she couldn't help Willard carry SC in the primaries).

CRM114
03-29-12, 01:52 PM
Hooray for the Tea Party!

Jason
03-29-12, 06:10 PM
There are rumors in SC that Gov. Haley will soon be indicted.
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/17287096/article-gov-haley-may-face-indictments

No VeeP considerations for her (since she couldn't help Willard carry SC in the primaries).

I read that as Haley Barbour and got all excited for a second...

Burnt Thru
03-30-12, 04:59 AM
Did Santorum really say the N word?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nzyvo8SKa0M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Interesting slip of the tongue at 34:24 (followed by a change of sentence and a very embarrassed look). The link below takes you right to the moment in question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nzyvo8SKa0M#t=2063s

slop101
03-30-12, 09:33 AM
Sounds like he almost said it (got out "nig" then caught himself), but it's not enough to go on. If he can say he said "blah people" instead of "black people" then this won't get much traction either.

JasonF
03-30-12, 09:42 AM
Prediction: the official story will be that he said "Governmentnik."

It may even be the truth.

spainlinx0
03-30-12, 09:56 AM
Classic.

Jason
03-30-12, 09:57 AM
I don't see rick santorum as one who throws the N word around. Strange slip of the tongue.

Giantrobo
03-30-12, 11:15 AM
Meh, it doesnt matter if he was calling the potus a Nig. 1. Its not like Blacks were gonna vote for him. 2. Its not like he'd be the first white to call the potus a Nig.

Nothing to see here folks, move on....

Tracer Bullet
03-30-12, 12:56 PM
I don't see rick santorum as one who throws the N word around. Strange slip of the tongue.

I agree.

Jason
03-30-12, 01:58 PM
Meh, it doesnt matter if he was calling the potus a Nig. 1. Its not like Blacks were gonna vote for him. 2. Its not like he'd be the first white to call the potus a Nig.

Nothing to see here folks, move on....

Plus, if the 20 seconds preceding this are any indication, his speech had gone completely off a cliff anyhow. Why do people take him seriously?

wmansir
03-30-12, 03:33 PM
I'm not sure what he meant to say, but I don't see how the N word fits either.

On a related topic I listened to the Zimmerman 911 call where he allegedly says "fuckin coon" and could hardly tell if he was even talking, let alone what was said.

I'm reminded of this NAACP classic:
k--lBw8nTCk

eXcentris
03-30-12, 05:48 PM
Obama is of Kenyan descent, not Nigerian. That's what happens when you don't brush up on your opponent.

jfoobar
03-30-12, 06:29 PM
There are rumors in SC that Gov. Haley will soon be indicted.
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/17287096/article-gov-haley-may-face-indictments

No VeeP considerations for her (since she couldn't help Willard carry SC in the primaries).

And the rumors have been confirmed to be nothing more than that it seems:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/no-irs-investigation-into-sc-governor-nikki-haley/

wmansir
03-30-12, 07:26 PM
And the rumors have been confirmed to be nothing more than that it seems:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/no-irs-investigation-into-sc-governor-nikki-haley/
I'm getting some deja vu here. There was a big story a few of years ago of a politician about to be federally indicted, based on a local blogger with anonymous sources and it turned out to be not true. I'm thinking someone in Alaska, maybe Palin but I don't think so, or maybe Cheney over the Plame investigation.

I'm sure it happens all the time, but when I read the article yesterday the sourcing reminded me of that incident so much that I got a BS vibe from it.

X
03-30-12, 10:24 PM
There are rumors in SC that Gov. Haley will soon be indicted.
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/17287096/article-gov-haley-may-face-indictments

No VeeP considerations for her (since she couldn't help Willard carry SC in the primaries).Did you sleep with her too?

Josh-da-man
03-31-12, 12:48 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/NikkiHaley.jpg/556px-NikkiHaley.jpg

Guilty/Not Guilty?

I can't really make up my mind...

If I squint, I'm leaning toward NOT GUILTY, but then I get a good look and lean the other way. With those big Bugs Bunny teeth, it like those, it looks like she could bite your pecker off in one bite.

PenguinJoe
04-01-12, 02:49 PM
Wow this site brings teh funny.

http://themagicnegro.com/

Tommy Ceez
04-01-12, 02:57 PM
Wow this site brings teh funny.

http://themagicnegro.com/

Ummmmm...ok

Navinabob
04-01-12, 03:59 PM
Wow this site brings teh funny.

http://themagicnegro.com/

I don't get it. Is your point that this racist shit fails at being funny, or that you find this sort of racist shit funny? Maybe you feel that Republicans find this funny? Either way, it does not have much reason to be posted here.

Josh-da-man
04-01-12, 07:14 PM
Someone heard the term "magic negro" and has no idea what it actually means.

Jason
04-01-12, 07:44 PM
Something tells me the magic "negro" wasn't their first choice for a domain name. And yes, I remember limbaugh using it a few years ago. The domain ownership info is set to private. Wonder which superpac is paying for this?

classicman2
04-02-12, 08:20 AM
It's difficult for someone of advanced age to know the correct term to use for blacks. I remember when Negro was the preferred term. Then it was African Americans. I think Colored was even the preferred term at some time. What is it now? How about just Americans?

lordwow
04-02-12, 08:28 AM
It's incredibly difficult because people generally don't understand the difference between race, ethnicity and culture. I have a masters degree and still have difficulty parsing them. African-Americans can be correct if people are of African descent, but the issue is that there other other racially black people who do not have African descent. Conversely, there are White people who are technically African American (South Africans, etc).

Black is technically accurate in describing race (skin color/phenotype).

dork
04-02-12, 08:30 AM
It's difficult for someone of advanced age to know the correct term to use for blacks. I remember when Negro was the preferred term. Then it was African Americans. I think Colored was even the preferred term at some time. What is it now? How about just Americans?
"Preferred" by whites, I guess. Blacks weren't really consulted on this until pretty recently.

Groucho
04-02-12, 08:33 AM
In order to avoid embarrassment about using the currently politically correct term, if addressing a group, just say "you people".

classicman2
04-02-12, 08:34 AM
"Preferred" by whites, I guess. Blacks weren't really consulted on this until pretty recently.

I think the NAACP is made up of primarily blacks? That organization used different terms.

Groucho
04-02-12, 08:35 AM
I think the NAACP is made up of primarily blacks?It's possible, but I never bothered to look up the racial mix of NAACP members. I don't see race. :shrug:

dave-o
04-02-12, 09:48 AM
It's possible, but I never bothered to look up the racial mix of NAACP members. I don't see race. :shrug:

That's because you live in Utah...

PenguinJoe
04-02-12, 11:36 AM
HA!

http://i43.tinypic.com/pprv8.jpg

Jason
04-02-12, 03:41 PM
It's difficult for someone of advanced age to know the correct term to use for blacks. I remember when Negro was the preferred term. Then it was African Americans. I think Colored was even the preferred term at some time. What is it now? How about just Americans?

I'm not black, but I would like to think that unless it was preceded by "those damn", an older person using the term negro would probably not be seen as a major faux pas by most rational people. Colored? Maybe a little. Boy? Probably not a good idea.

Don't forget, you're also allowed to tell young girls how pretty they are. Us younger and middle age guys get slapped for that shit.

Jason
04-02-12, 03:42 PM
Ann Romney wants to Unzip Mitt to show us he isn't stiff (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/ann-romney-says-campaign-will-unzip-the-real-mitt/)

GREEN BAY, Wis. – Ann Romney defended her husband’s sense of humor today during a radio interview, explaining that if people think the candidate seems too stiff at times as the host suggested, she thinks “we better unzip him and let the real Mitt Romney out.”

Ann Romney’s remarks came during an interview with Baltimore radio station WBAL, during which the host asked her, “And one of the things, Ann Romney, that folks talk about with your husband, Mitt Romney, and I’ve seen him in casual conversation-He comes off very smooth and okay. But sometimes he comes off stiff. Do you have to fight back some criticism, like ‘My husband isn’t stiff, OK?’”

Laughing, Ann Romney responded, “Well, you know, I guess we better unzip him and let the real Mitt Romney out because he is not!”

:lol: I wish this primary season could last forever!

JasonF
04-02-12, 03:50 PM
And one of the things, Ann Romney, that folks talk about with your husband, Mitt Romney, and I’ve seen him in casual conversation-He comes off very smooth and okay.

I can see why a radio host who addresses his interviewee and her husband by first and last name would consider Mitt Romney smooth.

Josh-da-man
04-02-12, 04:46 PM
Ann Romney wants to Unzip Mitt to show us he isn't stiff (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/ann-romney-says-campaign-will-unzip-the-real-mitt/)



:lol: I wish this primary season could last forever!

Bob Dole has some viagra he can use if he needs it.

Mammal
04-02-12, 10:16 PM
It's difficult for someone of advanced age to know the correct term to use for blacks. I remember when Negro was the preferred term. Then it was African Americans. I think Colored was even the preferred term at some time. What is it now? How about just Americans?

In elementary school I had a teacher who regularly used "N-----s." He got in trouble for it and switched to "N----r - oes" That was PC enough in the 1950s.

Tracer Bullet
04-03-12, 08:29 AM
In elementary school I had a teacher who regularly used "N-----s." He got in trouble for it and switched to "N----r - oes" That was PC enough in the 1950s.

Another elderly poster. Where are you all coming from?

classicman2
04-03-12, 09:00 AM
Another elderly poster. Where are you all coming from?

from the real world!! :)

movielib
04-03-12, 10:52 AM
Another elderly poster. Where are you all coming from?
We've been here forever. Literally. ;)

eXcentris
04-03-12, 04:11 PM
I've never heard black people in Canada referred to as African Canadians. Heck, most of them do not even respond to "wassup bro!". :)

X
04-03-12, 04:22 PM
I've never heard black people in Canada referred to as African Canadians. Interesting...

I wonder what African-Americans who move to Africa are supposed to be referred as.

slop101
04-03-12, 04:30 PM
So are black people in Jamaica referred to a African-Jamaicans?

Navinabob
04-03-12, 04:34 PM
Interesting...

I wonder what African-Americans who move to Africa are supposed to be referred as.

The 1%

Navinabob
04-03-12, 04:40 PM
So are black people in Jamaica referred to a African-Jamaicans?

Over 97% are black. I imagine it is everyone else you have to name things like "China-Jamaican"

Mammal
04-03-12, 11:59 PM
Another elderly poster. Where are you all coming from?

Be patient. The clock is ticking.

classicman2
04-04-12, 08:11 AM
I'm not black, but I would like to think that unless it was preceded by "those damn", an older person using the term negro would probably not be seen as a major faux pas by most rational people. Colored? Maybe a little. Boy? Probably not a good idea.

Don't forget, you're also allowed to tell young girls how pretty they are. Us younger and middle age guys get slapped for that shit.

The only time (I can remember) using the "N" word in my house was when my father slapped (maybe he hit) me across the room.

clappj
04-04-12, 08:29 AM
The only time (I can remember) using the "N" word in my house was when my father slapped (maybe he hit) me across the room.

So, you're dad's black?

Tracer Bullet
04-04-12, 08:43 AM
Be patient. The clock is ticking.

Clocks make elderly people???

Tracer Bullet
04-04-12, 08:45 AM
So no posts about Romney's wins in the primaries yesterday? Looking at the vote totals, it would be interesting to see how Santorum would have done if Gingrich had dropped out. If Santorum wins Pennsylvania, is the race back on???

TheMovieman
04-04-12, 09:58 AM
If Santorum wins Pennsylvania, is the race back on???

Nope. And the fact you have to ask "if" says a lot that he could lose his state...

Th0r S1mpson
04-04-12, 10:36 AM
Romney won in a landslide in Washington DC. In case you were still wondering if he's a true liberal.

Tracer Bullet
04-04-12, 10:43 AM
Nope. And the fact you have to ask "if" says a lot that he could lose his state...

But I don't want this to end :(

Tracer Bullet
04-04-12, 10:43 AM
Brokered convention!!! Brokered convention!!!

Th0r S1mpson
04-04-12, 10:58 AM
Brokered convention!!! Brokered convention!!!

I can only hope. :(

Otherwise it will be up to the Super PACs to deliver enough fear to make people actually show up for Romney, because he certainly won't be able to motivate enough people on his own.

CRM114
04-04-12, 11:00 AM
Joe Scarborough was asking Repubs to admit this morning that Romney is going to lose to Obama. I think they are looking to 2016 already. I'm a bit more skeptical of the electorate than Scarborough. I was befuddled that W was reelected 2004 and it feels the same this year in reverse. The Repubs will be befuddled.

Tommy Ceez
04-04-12, 12:39 PM
Joe Scarborough was asking Repubs to admit this morning that Romney is going to lose to Obama. I think they are looking to 2016 already. I'm a bit more skeptical of the electorate than Scarborough. I was befuddled that W was reelected 2004 and it feels the same this year in reverse. The Repubs will be befuddled.

W was the charismatic guy running against the ridiculously wealthy stiff. Its the other way around now.

CRM114
04-04-12, 12:53 PM
Bush charismatic?

classicman2
04-04-12, 12:56 PM
And Joe Scarborough is noted for his prognostications?

Joe wakes up in a new world every morning.

He changes his position with the weather - or at the insistence of Mika. ;)

orangecrush
04-04-12, 01:29 PM
Bush charismatic?I think so to a certain degree. Most people who actually met him seem to agree that he was personable and very affable (not to mention the best pitcher we have seen the white house).

dork
04-04-12, 03:06 PM
And he made the rest of the world his catcher.

CRM114
04-04-12, 03:10 PM
I think so to a certain degree. Most people who actually met him seem to agree that he was personable and very affable (not to mention the best pitcher we have seen the white house).

"Hey Moe, this door won't open!"

http://blog.synthesis.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bush-door-china.jpg

Sorry, I couldn't restrain myself.

dork
04-04-12, 03:14 PM
Thanks, looking forward to two pages of photos of Obama on a bike.

wishbone
04-04-12, 03:19 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/1pgtoJkPuwU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is the correct door egress for the POTUS.

Mammal
04-04-12, 03:27 PM
[QUOTE=Tracer Bullet;11178604]Clocks make elderly people???[/QUOTE

The clock makes everybody elderer, you too. Eventually it winds down, or somebody drops it.

Jaymole
04-04-12, 03:52 PM
Thanks, looking forward to two pages of photos of Obama on a bike.

How about on a skateboard?

http://i.imgur.com/KwPXg.gif

dork
04-04-12, 04:07 PM
Sure, except the picture won't load.

Guess I pulled down my pants for nothing. :sad:

Jason
04-04-12, 09:19 PM
I can only hope. :(

Otherwise it will be up to the Super PACs to deliver enough fear to make people actually show up for Romney, because he certainly won't be able to motivate enough people on his own.

I'm not too worried about that. They're too hamfisted to come up with effective fear messages that scare anyone other than their base, which already lives in perpetual fear. And they're hopeless when it comes to the Internet. It'll be months of laughable "facts", ad hominum attacks, and easily avoidable gaffs.

Tommy Ceez
04-04-12, 10:35 PM
The lines have been drawn. Obama is going to run against the Paul Ryan budget, forcing Romney to take a position on it.

Problem is Romney can't take a position on it. If he comes out against it he basically contradicts his recent endorsement and further alienates a base that doesnt trust him. If he backs it, he's running against Medicare...in a general election...where he has to dominate the elderly.

Th0r S1mpson
04-04-12, 10:53 PM
If he backs it, he's running against Medicare...in a general election...where he has to dominate the elderly.

That is a predicament. The elderly. The elderly... Hey Eric, do we know anyone who can remind them that Obama is black?

Artman
04-04-12, 11:42 PM
I was befuddled that W was reelected 2004 and it feels the same this year in reverse. The Repubs will be befuddled.

Aren't you sorta proving your political ineptness? Just continue to live in la la land... we'll touch base again in November.

crazyronin
04-05-12, 04:40 AM
Brokered convention!!! Brokered convention!!!

That's enough from you, Mr. Steele.

orangecrush
04-05-12, 09:04 AM
"Hey Moe, this door won't open!"

http://blog.synthesis.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bush-door-china.jpg

Sorry, I couldn't restrain myself.I know you are joking, but the truth is virtually no president has been nearly as inept as their opponents make them out to be. Nearly all of them have been pretty charismatic to one degree or another. You have to go through a lot of activities which hone skills that make you likable to various donors, powerful people and the electorate. The problem is that once the person is thought of as something, most stories about them are done with that context. Kerry was always an out of touch rich guy, same with Romney. Quayle and Bush Jr. were both idiots so any verbal gaffe that would have been shrugged off is just one more example of their stupidity. Clinton wasn’t a Jesus freak, so people ignored all of his talking about God. Bush Jr. was a Jesus freak, so everyone is worried about him talking about praying.

Tracer Bullet
04-05-12, 09:18 AM
That is a predicament. The elderly. The elderly... Hey Eric, do we know anyone who can remind them that Obama is black?

Oh god, for a second I thought you were asking me.

Is this the first time I've revealed my "real name" on the forum? Don't say it three times!!!

Groucho
04-05-12, 09:23 AM
I have a pet bee called Eric.

dork
04-05-12, 09:27 AM
Is this the first time I've revealed my "real name" on the forum? Don't say it three times!!!
Strange, you always come off as more of a Todd.

starman9000
04-05-12, 09:30 AM
Nah, he's an Eric for sure.

https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkYcO112eQHdoG5iG3M_YI52JSu5PeM-xO1tFwZbFew0s1uwhr

Tracer Bullet
04-05-12, 09:35 AM
Strange, you always come off as more of a Todd.

My boyfriend's name isn't Todd.

wishbone
04-05-12, 09:35 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/50gy83.jpg

JasonF
04-05-12, 10:56 AM
You'll never guess my real name!

Also, I've decided that I shall henceforth call Groucho "Julius."

dork
04-05-12, 11:12 AM
You'll never guess my real name!

Todd?

Hey, at least you're not one of those idiots who uses his first and last name as his username.

Groucho
04-05-12, 11:26 AM
Todd?

Hey, at least you're not one of those idiots who uses his first and last name as his username.Self-deprecation doesn't suit you, Mr. Rk.

classicman2
04-05-12, 01:08 PM
Who is Bush Jr.?

Josh-da-man
04-05-12, 04:01 PM
Bush charismatic?

All of the rednecks I know... gun lovin', liberal hatin', military lovin', evolution hatin', Jesus freak good old boys... all had and still have serious man-crushes on him.

I've never really gotten it, myself, but there you go...

PenguinJoe
04-05-12, 08:47 PM
Well I'm in...

now to google Chanel Preston

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crazyronin
04-06-12, 05:21 PM
You'll never guess my real name!


It's Fosnaj. You're actually a Ukranian grandmother.

I'm right, aren't I?

JasonF
04-06-12, 06:28 PM
It's Fosnaj. You're actually a Ukranian grandmother.

I'm right, aren't I?

Not even close. I'm a Belarusian great grandmother.

Burgundy LaRue
04-06-12, 07:27 PM
All of the rednecks I know... gun lovin', liberal hatin', military lovin', evolution hatin', Jesus freak good old boys... all had and still have serious man-crushes on him.

I've never really gotten it, myself, but there you go...
You didn't miss it, because it's not there. W does an everyman quality about him that worked to his advantage. But charming? No. Obama has a certain charm. Clinton has charm in spades. Reagan was very charming. W is personable, but that's not the same as have the star power to walk into a room and have everyone take notice of you.

slop101
04-06-12, 08:02 PM
Exactly, if you go down the line, out of the two opponents in the general election for president, the one with more personality (be it charm, or likability) always wins. Bush Sr. may have been a milquetoast, but even he had more personality than Dukakis.

X
04-06-12, 08:15 PM
Exactly, if you go down the line, out of the two opponents in the general election for president, the one with more personality (be it charm, or likability) always wins. Bush Sr. may have been a milquetoast, but even he had more personality than Dukakis.And they're always taller, right?

slop101
04-06-12, 09:31 PM
I think Nixon was shorter than McGovern.

X
04-06-12, 09:56 PM
I think Nixon was shorter than McGovern.And so much more personable!

slop101
04-07-12, 12:15 AM
Nixon's not the most personable person, but McGovern's got as much personality as a sheet of cardboard and, by comparison, made Nixon much more relatable.

X
04-07-12, 12:50 AM
I suppose Jimmy Carter was much more fun to be around than Gerald Ford too.

slop101
04-07-12, 10:12 AM
On camera, of course. Carter had way more personality than Ford.

Why all this passive-aggressiveness anyways?

Josh-da-man
04-07-12, 12:30 PM
Jimmy Carter was a born-again Christian, and Ford was a guy who fell on his face a lot who had a lush for a wife.

Ford wins on the "most fun to hang out with" thing.

Jason
04-07-12, 06:29 PM
Ford wins on the "most fun to hang out with" thing.

I'll drink to that!

http://download.lardlad.com/framegrabs/4F19/109.jpg

CRM114
04-10-12, 08:05 AM
Speaking of likability...

Those surveyed (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/220651-poll-finds-obama-tops-romney-on-key-issues-overall-likability) find the president more "friendly and likable" than his opponent by 64 percent to 26 percent. Fifty-five percent of those surveyed say Obama is more “inspiring” to 29 percent for Romney.

Quite a gap to overcome, Mitt. Perhaps you ought to focus on that auto elevator you've been dreaming about?

wishbone
04-10-12, 08:18 AM
A new poll shows President Obama with a strong edge over likely GOP opponent Mitt Romney on a range of key issues, but still vulnerable on his handling of the economy.That's the gap that needs to be overcome, not this...

<img src=http://i40.tinypic.com/302nq8o.jpg height=200>

dork
04-10-12, 08:37 AM
I'm assuming you mean this (http://news.yahoo.com/romney-solidifies-gop-position-obama-gets-boost-women-040227798--abc-news-politics.html):


That includes Obama's largest margin to date among women, 57-38 percent.

CRM114
04-10-12, 08:40 AM
That's the gap that needs to be overcome, not this...

That's great but the topic was likability. Are we changing it now?

Artman
04-10-12, 01:06 PM
Santo preparing to announce the end of his campaign...

Th0r S1mpson
04-10-12, 01:09 PM
That would be awesome news. Gingrich won't last long either, so that means Ron Paul has about a 50% chance!

Tracer Bullet
04-10-12, 01:11 PM
Santo preparing to announce the end of his campaign...

http://www.entertainmentbuddha.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/noooooooo.jpg

Tracer Bullet
04-10-12, 01:11 PM
Brokered convention! Brokered convention!

Tracer Bullet
04-10-12, 01:12 PM
I mean, Romney could DIE. What then??? IT'S ALL UP FOR GRABS

tommyp007
04-10-12, 01:13 PM
hmmm....didn't see that coming...esp before Newt gets out.

dork
04-10-12, 01:20 PM
I mean, Romney could DIE. What then???
Then he'll get his own planet to rule over. Why do you ask?

Josh-da-man
04-10-12, 01:25 PM
Santorum has stopped running.

Grab a towel and hit the showers.

islandclaws
04-10-12, 01:29 PM
I guess it's back to secretly jacking off to gay porn for Santorum.

Good riddance. :up:

PenguinJoe
04-10-12, 01:40 PM
I suppose Jimmy Carter was much more fun to be around than Gerald Ford too.

Jimmy Carter always comes across as really conservative to me I think it's his Southern upbringing I was surprised he was a dem.

Mr.Briggs
04-10-12, 02:00 PM
Can't wait for the general election. We Dems can't get overconfident although if they could nail Kerry for one flip flop the campaign against the king of flipflopping on basically everything should be a winner. If they think they'll win on gas prices, they will go back down. The king of highest gas is still W with $4.11. National average still is under 4. I have to keep saying to myself do not get overconfident. But I cannot see BO losing to Romneycare.

movielib
04-10-12, 02:01 PM
I think Santorum did not want to suffer the embarrassment of losing to Romney in PA.

X
04-10-12, 02:02 PM
I think Santorum did not want to suffer the embarrassment of losing to Romney in PA.I agree. He wants to remain viable for the future.

CRM114
04-10-12, 02:04 PM
Yep. Why he thought he'd win where he was thoroughly embarrassed 6 years ago is beyond me.

PenguinJoe
04-10-12, 02:10 PM
I still love this Freudian slip.

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Venusian
04-10-12, 02:11 PM
Sorry to hear about Santorum's daughter. The primary campaign ended with Romney winning as expected (or will if folks still don't think it is over)

Josh-da-man
04-10-12, 02:18 PM
I think Santorum did not want to suffer the embarrassment of losing to Romney in PA.

Yeah, it's more obvious than ever that he's setting himself as the crown prince in the 2016 primary.

I remember someone saying that the republicans tend to nominate the guy who came in second during the last open primary where there isn't a VP running.

Reagan lost to Ford in '76, but got the nomination in 1980.
Dole lost to Bush I in '88 and won the nom in '96.
McCain lost to Bush II in '00 and won the nom in '08.

So, God help us all, it looks like we're going to have Santorum running in '16 if Romney doesn't unseat Obama.

Navinabob
04-10-12, 02:19 PM
Yeah, Santorum going out when his daughter is ill both protects him (he didn't lose) and makes him even more popular to his followers since he put his family first.

CRM114
04-10-12, 02:20 PM
:lol: So the Repubs would nominate a dude that did nothing but lobby for 10 years? I guess anything is possible. Santorum just isn't Presidential material. I think most people understand this.

Pharoh
04-10-12, 02:32 PM
Yep. Why he thought he'd win where he was thoroughly embarrassed 6 years ago is beyond me.

You do realise this was to be a Republican primary, yes? And I assume you have some idea how well he did in his last election with Republican voters?

I think he probably would have lost, but it would have been very close, and your statement is silly.

Tracer Bullet
04-10-12, 02:51 PM
Yep. Why he thought he'd win where he was thoroughly embarrassed 6 years ago is beyond me.

Because Pennsylvania holds closed primaries. This isn't complicated.