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Heat
01-09-12, 11:07 PM
My computer is in one corner of the house, I have a TV in the opposite corner. I want to watch Netflix on the TV but I do not run to run a cable between the computer and the TV.

What are my wi-fi options? I have a Sony blu ray player (BDP-S185) that can handle Netflix, but it is not wi-fi.

I'd be open to buying a wi-fi compatible DVD or blu ray player that can handle Netflix. I know that a PS3 would do what I want, but I don't want a PS3 on that TV.

Thanks!

The Cow
01-09-12, 11:12 PM
Roku box or AppleTV box will do it. The Western Digitals might too, not sure, but worth checking out.

TheBigDave
01-10-12, 12:17 AM
Roku box or AppleTV box will do it.

I'd recommend a Roku. That'll also give you Amazon Prime, Hulu Plus, Crackle, HBOGo, Epix, Crunchyroll, and other great streaming options. You can get a Roku LT for $50.

I'd only recommend the AppleTV ($100) if you have other Apple products or use iTunes a lot. I love the iPad integration. You can easily stream content from the iPad to your TV. With the AirStream app, you can stream any video from your computer to your iPad to your TV screen. And it all happens instantly through your wifi network with no wire hookups. It's pretty cool.

But the ATV doesn't have as many streaming options as the Roku. And the budget Roku is $50 cheaper. So in a standalone box vs box comparison, I'd go with the Roku.

Heat
01-10-12, 02:01 AM
Thanks for the info, the Roku looks really nice.

Next question: Which model? Here is Roku's product lineup: http://www.roku.com/roku-products

The TV that it will be used on is a 32" LCD so the 720p of the $50 Roku LT is fine. Do you think that the enhanced remote (RF, plus motion sensors), the USB port and expandable memory slots are worth an extra $40? (the high end model, Angry Birds edition, is $90) Or I could just get the $50 Roku LT and wait to see what the third generation of Roku has, the third generation should be out this summer.

The AppleTV looks nice also but the Roku streaming options are really neat, worth more to me than watching the occasional TV show purchased through iTunes.

And I don't have cable or satellite, only antenna. The Roku will really open up the household's viewing options.

TheBigDave
01-10-12, 02:46 AM
The TV that it will be used on is a 32" LCD so the 720p of the $50 Roku LT is fine. Do you think that the enhanced remote (RF, plus motion sensors), the USB port and expandable memory slots are worth an extra $40? (the high end model, Angry Birds edition, is $90) Or I could just get the $50 Roku LT and wait to see what the third generation of Roku has, the third generation should be out this summer.

We have both the Roku 2 XS and the Roku LT. Based on your needs, the LT should be perfect.

I don't think you'll need the high end model. The main benefits are 1080p video and an ethernet port. It sounds like you don't need those things. I haven't used the USB port, but I think it's fairly limited in what you can do with it. The memory card slot is only worthwhile if you're going to download a lot of games. But from what I've seen, the games aren't anything special. The higher-end RF remote is nice since with works from anywhere in the room. The cheaper remote requires line-of-sight. But unless you have the Roku box hidden in a cabinet or behind the TV, it shouldn't be a problem

The AppleTV looks nice also but the Roku streaming options are really neat, worth more to me than watching the occasional TV show purchased through iTunes.

You can purchase TV shows and movies for the same price through Amazon Instant Video.

And I don't have cable or satellite, only antenna. The Roku will really open up the household's viewing options.

Just to let you know, without cable/satellite you won't be able to get HBOGo and Epix. Those channels are only for current subscribers.

If you're going to hook it up with HDMI, remember to buy a cable. I don't remember it coming with one. You can get them for $3-$4 at Amazon.

Deftones
01-10-12, 09:13 AM
I know people are recommending a Roku, but why not just upgrade your blu-ray player? Will cost a little more, but then everything is integrated into one device, instead of having to mess with 2 devices.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
01-10-12, 11:49 AM
I know people are recommending a Roku, but why not just upgrade your blu-ray player? Will cost a little more, but then everything is integrated into one device, instead of having to mess with 2 devices.

He might want the other channels you can watch.

Personally, I just went with multiple PS3s in our house since it has the absolute best Netflix interface, is a great BR player, and it can stream audio/video from my PCs with ease.

That's not to say I'm not happy with my Roku player, it's just a second class citizen in my house.

edstein
01-10-12, 12:42 PM
Best: Xbox 360 or a PS3 if you need Bluray.
Better: AppleTV
Good: Roku LT

Mr. Salty
01-10-12, 01:04 PM
Better: AppleTV
Good: Roku LT
Strongly disagree. Roku is cheaper and has better streaming options.

Deftones
01-10-12, 01:07 PM
He might want the other channels you can watch.

Personally, I just went with multiple PS3s in our house since it has the absolute best Netflix interface, is a great BR player, and it can stream audio/video from my PCs with ease.

That's not to say I'm not happy with my Roku player, it's just a second class citizen in my house.

He just said he wanted to watch Netflix. I'm just trying to simplify what he wants.

CRM114
01-10-12, 02:50 PM
I got the Sony BDP-S580 wifi BD player. But the TV also has Netflix built in but it's wired. I do most of my Netflxing on a Tivo which I'll admit has a horrible interface but its always on and waiting.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
01-10-12, 03:06 PM
He just said he wanted to watch Netflix. I'm just trying to simplify what he wants.

Another simple solution would be to buy a wireless bridge. Then if he ends up with any other devices that require a wired connection, they can all be hooked up to a switch.

Cardiff Giant11
01-10-12, 07:27 PM
Another simple solution would be to buy a wireless bridge. Then if he ends up with any other devices that require a wired connection, they can all be hooked up to a switch.

ding we have a winner. Easiest and cheapest solution.

TheBigDave
01-10-12, 08:00 PM
Best: Xbox 360 or a PS3 if you need Bluray.
Better: AppleTV
Good: Roku LT

I've got all four hooked up right now. I'd probably list them like this:

Roku
Xbox 360
AppleTV
PS3

Out of all of them, the Roku has the best streaming options. They're the only one with Amazon, Crunchyroll, Revision3, Twit.TV, etc. Xbox has gotten much better with it's recent additions. But it's nowhere close to the selection on the Roku. AppleTV is great for integrating with other Apple products. But outside of iTunes, Netflix and YouTube, there's not much else. And the PS3 has probably the most limited streaming choices.

Of course, that's just the streaming. If you're talking about games and Blu-ray, then the PS3 and 360 bring a lot more to the table. But they're about $200 more than the Roku, and the 360 requires an annual membership.

TheBigDave
01-10-12, 08:13 PM
I just went with multiple PS3s in our house since it has the absolute best Netflix interface.....

Check out the Instant Watch Browser for Netflix (http://roku.permanence.com/#netflix) on the Roku. It's the best way I've seen to browse Netflix streaming titles. I really like the sections for what's expiring and what's coming soon. There's also a great page on each listing to find related titles by themes or cast.

It's available in the Channel Store for $2.99 and worth every penny. There's a free Lite version if you want to try it out.

Nifty03
01-10-12, 08:49 PM
You can get Porn on the Roku. :)

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
01-10-12, 09:24 PM
You can get Porn on the Roku. :)

PS3 too since it has a browser. A shitty browser but it supports some versions of flash.

The Man with the Golden Doujinshi
01-10-12, 09:26 PM
Check out the Instant Watch Browser for Netflix (http://roku.permanence.com/#netflix) on the Roku. It's the best way I've seen to browse Netflix streaming titles. I really like the sections for what's expiring and what's coming soon. There's also a great page on each listing to find related titles by themes or cast.

It's available in the Channel Store for $2.99 and worth every penny. There's a free Lite version if you want to try it out.

Thanks for the info. I'll check it out.

Heat
01-10-12, 11:29 PM
Thanks for all of the advice, I had never heard of the Roku before this thread. I ordered the Roku LT for $50 from Amazon, the thing that sealed the deal for me was all of the available channels though I will be getting Netflix too.

And I'll check out the Instant Watch browser for Netflix too of course, once I get everything set up.

TheBigDave
01-11-12, 12:19 AM
Thanks for all of the advice, I had never heard of the Roku before this thread. I ordered the Roku LT for $50 from Amazon, the thing that sealed the deal for me was all of the available channels though I will be getting Netflix too.

If you're not already an Amazon Prime member, consider signing up now that you have a Roku. I buy it for the free shipping. But the free Prime streaming is pretty nice too. Although the selection isn't as large as Netflix, it's gotten much better over the past couple months. There's a lot of good stuff to watch.

Also keep an eye on this thread in the store forum. I try to post any Amazon Instant Video news and deals:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/store-forum/595954-amazon-prime-instant-video-news-updates.html

Heat
01-11-12, 01:20 AM
Nice thread, I'll keep an eye on it.

And here's a good comparison of Amazon Prime vs. Netflix vs. Hulu Plus, with some Vudu discussion tossed in:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/261456/20111205/amazon-prime-vs-netflix-hulu-plus-best.htm

Does the Roku support Vudu (Wal-Marts pay per view service)?

TheBigDave
01-11-12, 01:46 AM
Does the Roku support Vudu (Wal-Marts pay per view service)?

No Vudu. Roku's main pay-per-movie service is Amazon Instant Video. They have the same movies/TV you'd get at other VOD services like Vudu, iTunes, CinemaNow, etc. Prices are generally the same everywhere.

$2 - SD TV Episodes (to own)
$3 - HD TV Episodes (to own)
$4 - SD Movies (24-48 hour rental)
$5 - HD Movies (24-48 hour rental)

Amazon has a $0.99 Daily Movie and $1.99/$2.99 Weekend Sale. And those are often New Release titles. Plus, if you've bought some Blus/DVDs in the past couple months, you might have Amazon Instant Video credit sitting in your account.

TheBigDave
01-11-12, 03:30 AM
Amazon Prime vs. Netflix vs. Hulu Plus

I forgot about Hulu Plus. Definitely check them out. It's easy to find a 2-week free trial code. They have hundreds of Criterion movies. And those are commercial free (unlike the TV shows).

http://www.hulu.com/criterion
http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/1753-a-long-time-coming

Michael Corvin
01-11-12, 08:17 AM
Does your computer have a wireless card? If so, move the modem/router to the tv room and make your PC wireless.

cungar
01-11-12, 09:14 PM
I have a Roku but I love my Sony Blu Ray BDP-BX58. It's a Swiss Army Knife of Wireless Media Playing and Streaming. Besides NetFlix and Hulu Plus it has Amazon Instant Video, Vudu, Video Unlimited, You Tube, Crackle and many more. It also has Pandora, Slacker and NPR. It allows streaming from a Flash Drive and DLNA streaming of all your video and music from a Windows PC. Cost me $120 at Costco.

sherm42
01-11-12, 09:52 PM
I have an Apple Airport Express. It plugs into the wall, connects to my wifi, then I just run a cable into my Bluray player.

glassdragon
01-11-12, 10:48 PM
Don't forget that roku also does Flixster too I believe, which is what all the new ultraviolet digital copies play on. It's probably the best way to watch your dc's on your tv short of hooking a pc up to it.

Mr. Salty
01-11-12, 11:57 PM
It's probably the best way to watch your dc's on your tv short of hooking a pc up to it.

If I want to watch a DC I'm more likely to just watch the disc it came with.

glassdragon
01-12-12, 12:02 AM
If I want to watch a DC I'm more likely to just watch the disc it came with.

That's true, but if something happens to your disc then you can still watch it. For me it is good because I can actually use the dc codes that usually just sit there unwatched in the case since I don't ever use them at all.

TheBigDave
01-12-12, 09:28 AM
Don't forget that roku also does Flixster too I believe, which is what all the new ultraviolet digital copies play on. It's probably the best way to watch your dc's on your tv short of hooking a pc up to it.

Flixster on the Roku is just trailers right now. Hopefully they'll add UltraViolet streaming in the future. But if you like watching trailers, it's a pretty good channel.

glassdragon
01-14-12, 05:30 PM
Flixster on the Roku is just trailers right now. Hopefully they'll add UltraViolet streaming in the future. But if you like watching trailers, it's a pretty good channel.

Ahhh, well that sucks. I was thinking of getting one so that I could have my UV Dc's too along with all the movies I have on Vudu, and cinema now which I think are both on there.

Matt_
01-16-12, 06:36 AM
I was browsing the Roku forum (link (http://forums.roku.com)). Regarding closed captioning, I learned that the Roku 2 supports it. But the members there say that the catch is that most of the Netflix library doesn't have closed captioning when you watch it on a device like the Roku 2 ? They say that apparently Netflix has been promising for several years to improve the % of its library that supports it. The last update on this was this (link (http://blog.netflix.com/search/label/closed%20caption))

If the comments on that forum are an accurate assessment, then this is the only thing holding back my family from buying a Roku 2.

I'd be grateful for any comments.

TheBigDave
01-16-12, 08:18 AM
Regarding closed captioning, I learned that the Roku 2 supports it. But the members there say that the catch is that most of the Netflix library doesn't have closed captioning when you watch it on a device like the Roku 2 ? They say that apparently Netflix has been promising for several years to improve the % of its library that supports it. The last update on this was this (link (http://blog.netflix.com/search/label/closed%20caption))

I don't use CC, so I can't help too much. But I believe that Netflix CC is only available on the latest Roku models. And I think I've read somewhere that it's improved in recent months.

When you select a movie on Netflix, there's a menu that offers Audio & Subtitle options. I tested a bunch of movies at random (The Exorcist, Star Trek (2009), Toy Story 3, The Walking Dead, High School Musical, Scary Movie, Phineas & Ferb, They Live, Downton Abbey) and they all had CC that worked fine. I only saw 2-3 listings that didn't have an Audio & Subtitles menu, and those were ultra cheesy no-budget flicks.

I should mention that the Netflix CC text is Yellow without a border. So if it's on a yellow or bright white background, it might be hard to read.

If there's any titles you want me to test, let me know.

TheBigDave
01-16-12, 08:42 AM
I also took a quick glance at Hulu Plus, Amazon and Crackle. I didn't see any way to use CC on Amazon or Crackle. But I checked two shows on Hulu Plus (Modern Family and The Office) and they both had CC.

Heat
01-19-12, 12:13 AM
Received the Roku LT in the mail today, that's the $50 model. Works great, does what I want plus some. Thanks again for the tip!

Here's a nice list of channels including the private channels, broken down by category:

http://catastrophegirlsrokuchanneldata.blogspot.com/

I haven't signed up for Netflix yet but will do so in the next day or two.

Dan
01-19-12, 09:26 AM
I just bought a Roku (the $99 one) because others mentioned it in this thread. I'm loving it so far. :up:

Heat
01-23-12, 01:50 AM
The $50 Roku LT is now sold out, but they are offering the $60 Roku 2 XD for $50, this is the LT but with a micro-SD slot. Oh well, I already have the LT and don't really need the micro-SD slot.

I was playing around with the free channels - Crackle is pretty interesting but they play a 30 second commercial every 12 or 13 minutes. Extremely annoying. Popcorn Flix is OK, I guess, but the choice of movies is really, really poor.

I am signing up for Netflix, at least for their 30 day free trial, to see how that is. I imagine that by summer I'll have watched what I want to watch and will switch to Hulu Plus - I am interested in watching TV shows, not movies.

Dan
01-23-12, 10:26 PM
Anyone know how to get Youtube on the Roku? It looks like there used to be a channel for it, but it was removed many many months ago...

TheBigDave
01-23-12, 11:11 PM
Anyone know how to get Youtube on the Roku? It looks like there used to be a channel for it, but it was removed many many months ago...

There's no good way to get Youtube. The old one was a private channel and Youtube requested they remove it. There have been rumors about an official channel coming out. But I'm not holding my breath.

Some people use PlayOn. I haven't had much luck getting PlayOn to work smoothly on my Roku. I think it has something to do with Roku's buffering requirements. It works fine on my PS3, so I never looked into it too much. Also there's a pissing match going on between Roku and Playon. So you can't get any support for it on the Roku forums.

http://www.playon.tv/devices/roku

There's a channel called RateRix. But you have to register and then login every time you use the channel. It was a hassle. Don't know if they ever fixed it.

http://www.rokuguide.com/channels/raterix

There's also the private channel 1080p Showcase. I like it, but it's limited to Youtube's 1080p videos:

http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=36631

I've seen people on other forums mention using NokNok to get Youtube. I think it's similar to PlayOn. I haven't tried it and don't know much about it:

http://forums.noknok.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36

Joeseph
01-31-12, 01:39 AM
How do you get your audio and video from your computer to the PS3? Where do you go in the menus on the PS3 to set this up? I'm connecting through a wifi router for my PS3

Joeseph
01-31-12, 04:37 AM
He might want the other channels you can watch.

Personally, I just went with multiple PS3s in our house since it has the absolute best Netflix interface, is a great BR player, and it can stream audio/video from my PCs with ease.

That's not to say I'm not happy with my Roku player, it's just a second class citizen in my house.

Streaming audio and video from you PC to your TV via a PS3? Do you mean you're using your TV as a monitor? If so, how?

cungar
02-01-12, 11:12 PM
How do you get your audio and video from your computer to the PS3? Where do you go in the menus on the PS3 to set this up? I'm connecting through a wifi router for my PS3

PS3 supports DLNA streaming. Here's a discussion.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158357

My Sony Blu Ray player supports DLNA streaming of my Video content and mp3s on my computer by turning on Media Streaming on Media Player. It's pretty easy to set up.

I can also do it using my Verizon FioS cable box but they require their own Media Manager.

There's a couple Roku apps out there that support DLNA streaming.

Joeseph
02-02-12, 08:31 PM
Thank you for your response,

I just clicked on your link, that is from 2007. I'm running windows 7 which came out in late 2009. Do I configure it through my computer? Since my PS3 is already getting it's wifi signal through the router, it will get it? Please walk me through this. My PS3 was purchased new in October of 2011. It's a 160 GB version.

Thank you in advance on your reply. I greatly appreciate any help.

TheBigDave
02-02-12, 09:04 PM
I just clicked on your link, that is from 2007. I'm running windows 7 which came out in late 2009. Do I configure it through my computer? Since my PS3 is already getting it's wifi signal through the router, it will get it? Please walk me through this.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3vymKsUER_w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Heat
02-15-12, 03:24 AM
My wife has decided to play a game of "let's hide the Roku remote because I'm mad about X".

Anyway, this post is to say that iPod touches, or iPhones, work great as Roku remotes and since they are controlling the Roku through the wireless connection the Roku no longer has to be in the line of sight for the infrared remote. Just get the free app through the iTunes store. And since it is through the wireless connection and not the computer, the computer can be turned off. The only downside is that you have to log into Roku through the iPod Touch, and since Roku has your credit card on file theoretically somebody could use the iPod touch to order pay channels through the Roku store.

Also, that is a pretty cool decal or artwork on the Mac in the image one post above.

benedict
02-15-12, 05:02 AM
My wife has decided to play a game of "let's hide the Roku remote because I'm mad about X".Maybe if you invite him round, she'll hand over the remote and you can watch tv while she, er, entertains him?

:rimshot:

TheBigDave
02-15-12, 03:50 PM
Anyway, this post is to say that iPod touches, or iPhones, work great as Roku remotes and since they are controlling the Roku through the wireless connection the Roku no longer has to be in the line of sight for the infrared remote.

I've got the DVPRemote app for iPad. It was around $1.99. There's a lot of great features. Unfortunately I don't use it much, because the iPad is too big and bulky to use as a remote. But it's got lot of great features. And if I had a compatible phone, I'd probably use it all the time.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VlYhsEEw_9Y" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dvpremote-for-roku/id323191554?mt=8

These days I'm using the Logitech Harmony 650 remote. I was kinda worried it might not handle devices like Roku and AppleTV, but it works perfectly. It's great to have everything controlled by just one remote.

TheBigDave
02-17-12, 08:17 AM
Some people use PlayOn. I haven't had much luck getting PlayOn to work smoothly on my Roku. I think it has something to do with Roku's buffering requirements.

PlayOn recently updated their Roku channel. And it works much better now. I haven't experienced the buffering problems that plagued the previous release.

So if you're still looking for YouTube on the Roku, check out the free trial for PlayOn. You can find info at the link below:

http://www.playon.tv/devices/roku

PlayOn is also running a special deal. You get a Roku LT and a Lifetime Membership to PlayOn for $79.99.

http://www.playon.tv/po/buy/

TheBigDave
02-29-12, 10:04 PM
Regarding closed captioning, I learned that the Roku 2 supports it. But the members there say that the catch is that most of the Netflix library doesn't have closed captioning when you watch it on a device like the Roku 2 ? They say that apparently Netflix has been promising for several years to improve the % of its library that supports it.

Netflix just posted an update on Closed Captioning:

An Update on Captioning for our Members

In mid December, we reached our captioning goal for 2011, when more than 80% of the hours streamed in the US were of content with captions or subtitles available. Thanks to hard work from our captioning team, we made significant strides from 40% in June and 60% in September.

We continue to require captions or subtitles from our providers for all new content where it is available, and we continue to author captions or subtitles for significant new content where it is missing. Our goal is to provide more and more content with captions; however, viewers should expect the gap on the last 20% to narrow more slowly than in 2011, since it includes a large number of titles that are rarely watched, so each hour of captioning added adds less and less to the overall metric.

We welcome the FCC rule-making on captions and subtitles, since it helps align the industry on making captions and subtitles more available from the content suppliers, which can only help us all move forward in this important area.

In the US, almost 90% of streaming viewing is done using a player that is capable of displaying captions or subtitles (some older BD players, TVs, and set-top boxes are not capable, and unfortunately their firmware cannot be upgraded). Almost all Netflix-ready devices in distribution today (including all the game consoles, phone apps, tablet apps, TVs, BD players, AppleTV, and the Roku set-top box) are capable of rendering captions. For users without caption capability, the inexpensive Roku set-top box makes a great upgrade.

A full list of captioned and English subtitled content is available here, which can also be found in the link at the bottom of each page on the website, or by entering subtitles in the search box.

http://blog.netflix.com/2012/02/update-on-captioning-for-our-members.html


Here's the full list of content with CC and English Subs:

http://movies1.netflix.com/Subtitles?st=rt&so=1&sub=l207.n&ftr=false&vt=tl

Heat
03-24-12, 03:46 AM
I just wanted to mention that there is a new version of Apple TV out now, the main difference from what I saw was 1080p vs. 720p resolution.

islandclaws
03-24-12, 12:18 PM
I've been thinking about getting the new Apple TV, but my parents just got a Roku and I'm thinking that might be a better option. I do like the thought of having solid iTunes integration, and being able to view the digital copies in my library, but Roku seems to have better viewing options as a whole.

Decisions, decisions...

D.Pham4GLTE (>60GB)
05-26-12, 07:52 PM
My wife has decided to play a game of "let's hide the Roku remote because I'm mad about X".

Anyway, this post is to say that iPod touches, or iPhones, work great as Roku remotes and since they are controlling the Roku through the wireless connection the Roku no longer has to be in the line of sight for the infrared remote. Just get the free app through the iTunes store. And since it is through the wireless connection and not the computer, the computer can be turned off. The only downside is that you have to log into Roku through the iPod Touch, and since Roku has your credit card on file theoretically somebody could use the iPod touch to order pay channels through the Roku store.

Also, that is a pretty cool decal or artwork on the Mac in the image one post above.

The Roku 2 XS has a bluetooth remote so it doesn't need line of sight. If you have another Roku 2 model besides the XS, then you can buy the bluetooth remote should you desire.

Also, you can use Androids to control the Roku as well as iDevices.


BTW, got my Roku 2 XS yesterday for $50 and love it so far. I only wished it had better subtitle support in Netflix.