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RocShemp
11-22-11, 09:13 AM
My love of this franchise has greatly diminished over the years (though I still think MGS3 was great) mainly due to the horrid writing and never-ending monologues but I figured some here would appreciate this bit of news:

http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/featured/konami/opmcover.jpg

Hideo Kojima is back behind the wheel for the next installment in the Metal Gear Solid franchise.

First details of the project are revealed in the upcoming issue of the Official PlayStation Magazine UK, where Kojima himself discusses plans for Metal Gear Solid 5 and the recently teased Project Ogre.

The issue hits newsstands on November 29, though excerpts from the interview are said to be available online sometime next week.

Link: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/11/17/metal-gear-solid-5-confirmed.aspx

So the question is... will it be coming for PS3 or PS4?

EDIT:

Here's the full storry CVG originally broke,

'We'll probably have to make Metal Gear Solid 5,' admits Kojima
"But what that will be, we have no idea," creator tells OPM
(http://www.computerandvideogames.com/326823/metal-gear-solid-5-well-probably-have-to-make-it-admits-kojima/)Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima has admitted his studio will "probably have to make" Metal Gear Solid 5 "at some point".


Speaking in the latest issue of Official PlayStation Magazine UK - on sale November 29 - the Kojima Productions man said of MGS5: "I think we'll probably have to make it at some point, but what that will be, we have no idea".

Once again downplaying his involvement in any future Metal Gear project, Kojima added: "As far as my involvement in the project is concerned, [it] probably won't be as much as it was with MGS1 - maybe I can do just one stage! For MGS1 I made the maps myself, laid out the enemy routes myself, did everything hands-on - that level I can't do again."

Of course, any fan worth his salt will point out that's exactly what Hideo said about MGS4 - and then he made it anyway.

The creator explained: "I intended to take it to a certain point and then hand it off, but that didn't work, because it's hard to convey the concept to other people then have them take the reins and carry on and preserve that vision."

His solution then is to not get involved at all, he said. "That's why it's easier to have them come up with everything from the start and then take it to the end."

The Kojima issue of OPM UK is out on November 29 and subs issues should be going out next week.

You can now get Official PlayStation Magazine UK on Apple Newsstand, either as a single issue or through a 3, 6 and 12 month subscriptions available. You can also get Official PlayStation Magazine UK on Zinio as well, so you are full covered for all your digital reading needs. And the paper edition's also available in the shops and through a number of subscription offers.

Boba Fett
11-22-11, 03:59 PM
Kojima must really be hard up for money.

Solid Snake
11-22-11, 04:38 PM
.....that man..just can't leave MGS alone. And I'm going to fucking freak out about it and get emotional like i did w/ MGS4. That CQC fight at the end...man....it was emotional. damn music.

RocShemp
11-23-11, 07:09 AM
.....that man..just can't leave MGS alone. And I'm going to fucking freak out about it and get emotional like i did w/ MGS4. That CQC fight at the end...man....it was emotional. damn music.

Which part? The cinematic that led up to the final boss fight or the actual final boss fight? If the former, it was a pretty badass moment amidst a sea of mediocrity. If the latter, the only emotion I felt was disappointment and irritation because of how crappy it was and how horrible the control scheme was. :shrug:

RichC2
03-27-13, 03:16 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/27/metal-gear-solid-5/

Metal Gear Solid V is Kojima's first next-gen FOX Engine game, developer reveals (update: video)

Kojima Productions head Hideo Kojima this morning announced that The Phantom Pain and Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes combined is actually Metal Gear Solid V, the first next-gen game from Kojima Productions running on its powerful FOX Engine. The news was revealed today during a FOX Engine panel at the Game Developers Conference. Kojima announced the combination of the previously announced concepts in a dramatic fashion, with his head wrapped in bandages, presumably as his alter ego Joakim Mogren. They provided a sneak peek trailer at the game's opening sequence, where Snake is attempting to escape from a hospital -- the trailer previously teased in late 2012. As FOX Engine is a next-gen platform, we're assuming that the game is heading to next-gen consoles, but Kojima's not saying anything solid just yet.

Update: GamesHQMedia managed to snag a trailer of the game, which we've embedded below.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/G8qugKFaVLE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ground Zeroes and Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain are separate games despite what the report says.

nickdawgy
03-27-13, 03:39 PM
Looks cool.

starseed1981
03-27-13, 03:47 PM
Holy jeebus. Day one purchase.

Supermallet
03-27-13, 04:53 PM
"Don't you die on me, damn it"? Really?

RocShemp
03-28-13, 09:09 AM
:boring:

nickdawgy
03-28-13, 12:40 PM
"Don't you die on me, damn it"? Really?

Should it have been "Don't you expire on me, guldurnit" instead?

chuckd21
06-06-13, 01:32 PM
Kiefer Sutherland is confirmed as the new Solid Snake.

Solid Snake
06-06-13, 01:41 PM
You mean, Big Boss aka Naked Snake.

starseed1981
06-06-13, 02:16 PM
Kiefer Sutherland is confirmed as the new Solid Snake.

Yes! I can't wait for Snake to scream "DAMMIT!!!!".

RocShemp
06-07-13, 01:07 AM
Yes! I can't wait for Snake to scream "THERE'S NO TIME!!!!".

Fixed. ;)

starseed1981
06-07-13, 10:09 AM
Fixed. ;)

hahah! Yes, that too!

RocShemp
06-19-14, 07:04 PM
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/h6J_eY-0PTs?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

nickdawgy
06-24-14, 04:34 AM
That was really cool. You can do a lot of stuff you can't do in Ground Zeroes.

RocShemp
01-01-15, 05:30 PM
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/RkacZnShxY4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Solid Snake
01-01-15, 06:15 PM
That's from some months ago. I'm amazed it wasn't posted here yet. I'm still loving this franchise. Really liked GZ. Wasn't worth the price it came out w/ but whatever sale I got it from on PSN made it worth it, granted... it was for my PS3.

RocShemp
01-01-15, 09:18 PM
I got GZ for PC and am loving it. Lots to do in that little sandbox. I can't wait to get my hands on TPP.

Solid Snake
01-02-15, 02:37 AM
Yeah. I spent A LOT of time in that thing.

Solid Snake
01-03-15, 08:43 PM
Apparently if you die a lot or struggle in a certain area of the game... it will give you an option to make it easier at a price of sorts. Big Boss will be forced to wear a chicken hat should you go for the easy option. looks like it even crosses over into the cutscenes too.. Seems like he made it to help out the inexperienced players.

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/yHt9MHkVWXM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm reading though that it possibly doesn't affect achievements/trophies which is kind of sad too. I usually prefer things like to lock those things down when you get an option like that.

RocShemp
01-03-15, 08:56 PM
Didn't one of the Devil May Cry games do this first? Not the chicken hat but unlocking a easy mode for players who demonstrate they really suck at the game.

Liver&Onions
01-03-15, 09:23 PM
Splosion Man did it in a Tutu.

Solid Snake
01-03-15, 09:25 PM
Yes. You had to die like 3 times in the normal mode. Then you would accept it but never be able to move up the difficulty ever even in the new game plus mode. Some other games have done it too. I can't remember which ones though.

I remember that and thinking that that was funny and it pissed me off too cuz the game was calling you out on you sucking. Fuck. DMC was an awesome challenge. DMC3 rocked like a motherfucker though. Fuck. My fav DMC.

nickdawgy
03-04-15, 03:38 AM
Supposedly this game finally has a street date of September 1st.

Supposedly.

It seems like after months of rumors, it's finally true and legit, but you never know with Kojima.

starseed1981
03-04-15, 09:38 AM
I dunno. I love the series but ground zeroes was a MAJOR turn off for me. We'll see.

RocShemp
03-04-15, 11:34 AM
I dunno. I love the series but ground zeroes was a MAJOR turn off for me. We'll see.

I'm the opposite. I found it a breath of fresh air. What didn't you like about it?

nickdawgy
03-04-15, 12:12 PM
Ground Zeroes was excellent. I don't think I've ever been as hyped for a game as I am this one. I hope it doesn't disappoint.

Decker
03-04-15, 12:48 PM
The Collector's Edition looks badass (and super-expensive)

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/03/mgsCE.jpg

RocShemp
03-04-15, 12:56 PM
Meh. I can't see myself wanting Snake's terminator arm displayed anywhere.

starseed1981
03-04-15, 01:20 PM
I'm the opposite. I found it a breath of fresh air. What didn't you like about it?

I just didn't like the open sandbox thing it was trying to achieve. It felt like a GTA mod to me. Just imho anyhow.

mattysemo247
03-04-15, 02:03 PM
Meh. I can't see myself wanting Snake's terminator arm displayed anywhere.

I don't know, it looks like a pretty awesome beer holder...

Emperor Charon
03-04-15, 02:10 PM
It's good to finally have the release date for this installment. Hopefully Kojima will tie everything together, nice and neat, leaving everything in The Phantom Pain to tie directly into the original Metal Gear chapter.

I would love to have that limited edition console, but I always seem to own my PlayStation (whichever generation) before they come out with limited edition ones...and I am not buying one just to store, unfortunately.

nickdawgy
03-05-15, 01:47 AM
The Collector's Edition looks badass (and super-expensive)

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/03/mgsCE.jpg

$99 is super expensive? Have you seen the ridiculous Call of Duty or Assassins Creed bundles? Or the Borderlands Claptrap bundle?

mattysemo247
03-19-15, 01:03 PM
The Collector's Edition is up for preorder on Best Buy. I threw in a preorder for the hell of it since Amazon's been sold out and they are going for about $200 on eBay. Figured $79.99 with GCU and I can always cancel if needed.

Decker
03-19-15, 01:12 PM
Yeah, I just pre-ordered there as well with GCU and came here to post. Beat me to it, Matty!

Decker
03-19-15, 01:13 PM
$99 is super expensive? Have you seen the ridiculous Call of Duty or Assassins Creed bundles? Or the Borderlands Claptrap bundle?

I said it looks super-expensive. There was no MSRP price at the time. Seeing it for $79.99 with GCU is a bargain!

gerrythedon
03-19-15, 01:44 PM
KONAMI RESPONDS TO QUERIES OVER HIDEO KOJIMA LEAVING RUMOURS

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/19/kojima-reportedly-leaves-konami-konami-responds

Emperor Charon
03-19-15, 02:16 PM
The real question about the rumors is, will he really be leaving this time? Kojima has been saying that it's his "last Metal Gear Solid" for a long time now.

RocShemp
03-19-15, 03:12 PM
I just didn't like the open sandbox thing it was trying to achieve. It felt like a GTA mod to me. Just imho anyhow.

That's cool. I was curious to see what didn't work for you. I wonder if more MGS fans will feel the same.

RocShemp
03-19-15, 03:14 PM
When we spoke to Kojima recently, he was keen to emphasise Metal Gear Solid V will be the last entry in the series and, if this is any indication, it certainly will be for the man who started it all.

I've heard that bullshit before. :lol:

Decker
03-19-15, 03:33 PM
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Osiris3657
03-19-15, 03:36 PM
I was going to say I'd buy a PS4 for this but see that it's not exclusive. Nice. Anyway this game looks awesome.

fumanstan
03-19-15, 03:38 PM
KONAMI RESPONDS TO QUERIES OVER HIDEO KOJIMA LEAVING RUMOURS

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/19/kojima-reportedly-leaves-konami-konami-responds

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/kojima-expected-to-leave-konami-after-mgs5-inside-/1100-6426024/

Gamespot is saying he's done after the game ships.

A fallout between Kojima Productions and its owning publisher, Konami, has led to senior staff at the studio being restricted access to corporate internet, emails, and phone, GameSpot understands.

Along with the restricted communications, key developers at the studio, such as Hideo Kojima, will now have limited opportunities to lend their appearance to promotions of the studio’s upcoming game, Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain.

Power struggles between Kojima Productions and Konami have convinced the publisher to make drastic changes, including amending the employee status of its Metal Gear team. Some senior staff at the studio, including Kojima, now essentially work as contractors, not permanent employees.

The extraordinary measures were revealed by a source within the studio, speaking to GameSpot on the condition of anonymity. The person explained that, once the Phantom Pain project is finished, in all likelihood the management at the studio will disband.

"After we finish MGSV, Mr. Kojima and upper management will leave Konami. They said their contract ends in December," the source claimed.

RocShemp
03-19-15, 03:49 PM
I was going to say I'd buy a PS4 for this but see that it's not exclusive. Nice. Anyway this game looks awesome.

Ground Zeroes looks great on PC.

musick
03-19-15, 03:49 PM
does he (Kojima) have to go to work now hidden under a cardboard box?

DthRdrX
03-19-15, 04:16 PM
I'm convinced there is some unique force in the universe that blocks Silent Hill from ever being good again.

mattysemo247
03-19-15, 04:48 PM
I'm convinced there is some unique force in the universe that blocks Silent Hill from ever being good again.

Shit, yeah, I totally forgot about that. Wonder how this would impact that project. P.T. was absolutely terrifying to play, so I was pretty stoked about the next Silent Hill entry.

RocShemp
03-19-15, 08:23 PM
Was P.T. a console exclusive or did they ever release it on PC?

mattysemo247
03-19-15, 09:30 PM
Pretty sure PS4 only

RocShemp
03-19-15, 09:34 PM
Pretty sure PS4 only

Shame. I wanted to try it out.

Solid Snake
06-16-15, 03:29 PM
<iframe width="660" height="415" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uGQFtS4QNNQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Osiris3657
06-20-15, 07:18 PM
I just watched the 40 minute E3 gameplay demo and this looks so good. Outside of Fallout 4, this is my most anticipated game.

mhg83
06-20-15, 10:38 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/1uE1MJSZO6c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm kind of mixed on this. I love MGS series but making it open world feels odd. It looks like it could get repetitive very fast.

dsa_shea
06-20-15, 11:45 PM
That video was really good and I'm excited to play this one. The running is a bit weird, in my opinion.

bluetoast
06-21-15, 12:08 AM
I'm in. Though Keifer as Snake is still weird as fuck. How were Revengeance and Ground Zeroes? I never heard much about them, though I got my ass kicked in the Revengeance demo.

nickdawgy
06-21-15, 02:39 AM
Ground Zeroes was great. Revengeance was kind of fun but weird.

That last boss though. Fuck that noise.

mhg83
06-22-15, 03:23 PM
This games map looks like a 1:1 scale size of the real Afghanastan. Would be amazing if that turned out to be the case.

Solid Snake
06-22-15, 03:39 PM
If Aghanistan was that small...sure.

I dug Ground Zeroes. I'm pretty sure I'm going to love this motherfuckering game too.

slop101
07-07-15, 11:09 AM
Two months!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ur6vhxVg6gE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The MGSV PS4 limited edition looks pretty cool too:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41kmSUtjvTL.jpg

Solid Snake
07-07-15, 12:04 PM
interesting color scheme.

Osiris3657
07-07-15, 07:20 PM
I figure there will be a PS4 packaged with this game for sale on Black Friday. I'll pick it up then.

Solid Snake
07-08-15, 08:05 AM
I figure there will be a PS4 packaged with this game for sale on Black Friday. I'll pick it up then.

my thoughts too.

EinCB
08-07-15, 12:57 PM
Graphical differences between all the consoles. If I do buy this, it would be for the PS4. The PC version looks beautiful. I also still need to finish Peace Walker.


http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/tpp/jp/products/compare.php5

musick
08-23-15, 09:41 PM
didn't expect reviews so early

10/10 from IGN

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/24/metal-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pain-review

same from Gamespot

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/24/metal-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pain-review

Decker
08-23-15, 10:37 PM
Both those links are IGN. This is the Gamespot review :
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-review/1900-6416224/

musick
08-23-15, 11:04 PM
whoops, my bad ^

all early reviews appear to be the highest of marks or close to

slop101
08-24-15, 12:19 AM
Gametrailers too.

<div style="background-color:#000000;width:520px;"><div style="padding:4px;"><iframe src="http://media.mtvnservices.com/embed/mgid:arc:video:gametrailers.com:5eb9a9c1-8649-40b9-8f73-9c8bfd04ee4e" width="512" height="288" frameborder="0"></iframe><p style="text-align:left;background-color:#FFFFFF;padding:4px;margin-top:4px;margin-bottom:0px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;"><b><a href="http://www.gametrailers.com/games/xo5edu/metal-gear-solid-v--the-phantom-pain">Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain</a></b></p></div></div>

slop101
08-24-15, 12:22 AM
http://s9.postimg.org/j42pzwxi7/MGSV.jpg

:lol:

nickdawgy
08-24-15, 04:17 AM
One more week.

Deftones
08-24-15, 08:34 AM
Wasn't really on my radar since I haven't played any of these since original PS, but that may change.

mattysemo247
08-24-15, 09:51 AM
Yeah, I'm a bit worried about being lost as well. I played through the original MGS when it first came out on the original Playstation. After that, I've only played bits of the others but never finished any of them. My plan is to play through Ground Zeros just to get familiar with the controls, but I don't think I'll be able to follow the story too well.

The funny thing is I've been going through some of my PS3 games and boxing them up for storage, and came across a sealed copy of this. I don't know when I bought it, but since it was a GameStop exclusive, I guess I might have picked it up when they were on clearance or something. I was debating on even opening it up at this point.

http://www.amazon.com/Metal-Gear-Solid-Patriots-Playstation-3/dp/B001B3UOR4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1440424042&sr=8-6&keywords=metal+gear+solid+4

K&AJones
08-25-15, 09:01 AM
Might as well add this review into the mix from Gameinformer.....score 9.25

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain......A Legend Worth Waiting For

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/metal_gear_solid_v_the_phantom_pain/b/playstation4/archive/2015/08/23/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-review-game-informer.aspx

nickdawgy
08-25-15, 11:35 AM
The launch trailer was released today. I'm too lazy to link but a bit of a goodbye from Kojima perhaps?

OldBoy
08-25-15, 12:52 PM
The launch trailer was released today. I'm too lazy to link but a bit of a goodbye from Kojima perhaps?

wasn't this Kojima's last MGS game?

kgrogers1979
08-25-15, 01:07 PM
Hasn't Kojima said every Metal Gear game since MGS2 would be his last one? I bet he will be back for MGS6, and he will once again say it will be his last one. :lol:

Decker
08-25-15, 01:09 PM
Seeing as Konami took his fucking name off the cover, I kind of doubt it.

kgrogers1979
08-25-15, 01:16 PM
Seeing as Konami took his fucking name off the cover, I kind of doubt it.

I wasn't aware of that since I honestly haven't paid much attention to this game, but there's no reason to be rude about it. I haven't really been into the Metal Gear series since MGS3. I just know it's been a recurring tradition for Kojima to say every Metal Gear game is his last one.

mhg83
08-25-15, 02:11 PM
If Kojima can buy the rights to MGS from Konami...

stingermck
08-25-15, 02:29 PM
Will this be a 27 hour movie, or a game I can play?

I havent really enjoyed one of these since PS1 days

musick
08-25-15, 02:45 PM
Will this be a 27 hour movie, or a game I can play?

I havent really enjoyed one of these since PS1 days

I have stayed away from reading through reviews and just glancing over but from what I have seen this does not have the long drawn out cut scenes of old if that is what you are concerned about

slop101
08-25-15, 03:35 PM
Will this be a 27 hour movie, or a game I can play?

I havent really enjoyed one of these since PS1 daysNo, the reviews definitely agree that there's less exposition and more action in this game compared to previous MGS games. The only negative thing I've heard is that instead of two huge open worlds (Afghanistan & Africa), it could've benefited with some variety had it been three slightly smaller worlds instead.

nickdawgy
08-25-15, 05:20 PM
Desert and jungle. The two staples of every MGS game. Lol.

Supermallet
08-25-15, 07:06 PM
The reviews are stellar for this. I just pre-ordered at Best Buy, I noticed it was eligible for the $10 back deal. That plus the gamers club discount makes it a no-brainer.

musick
08-25-15, 07:52 PM
The reviews are stellar for this. I just pre-ordered at Best Buy, I noticed it was eligible for the $10 back deal. That plus the gamers club discount makes it a no-brainer.

yep, did the same yesterday

Decker
08-25-15, 07:58 PM
I have the LE ordered so I can give everyone the Bionic finger.

As great as these reviews are, I'm a little worried that the open ended-ness and clever AI of this game will make it REALLY hard for me to complete any mission. I'm worried I might rage-quit it really fast. Then again since I spent $80 on the LE, maybe I'll feel more obligated to stick with it.

OldBoy
08-25-15, 08:37 PM
I'm worried I might rage-quit it really fast. Then again since I spent $80 on the LE, maybe I'll feel more obligated to stick with it.

wasn't that your intention all along ;)

Solid Snake
08-25-15, 09:50 PM
Desert and jungle. The two staples of every MGS game. Lol.

Except MGS1 and MGS2.

The launch trailer was released today. I'm too lazy to link but a bit of a goodbye from Kojima perhaps?

<iframe width="660" height="415" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/A9JV0EvCkMI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DGibFen
08-25-15, 11:40 PM
I'm not the only one that thinks that the new Metal Gear has an erection, right?

Solid Snake
08-25-15, 11:47 PM
Rex had a dick too.

Deftones
08-27-15, 08:33 PM
all the positive reviews got me to pre-order from BB. thankfully the reviews came out in plenty of time, so you can still preorder for the $10 bonus.

adrenaline78
08-27-15, 09:31 PM
I have a friend who is super geeked about this game. So much so I ordered it.

mattysemo247
08-28-15, 03:04 PM
My arm edition shipped! :banana:

I started Ground Zeros last night, so I should be finished with that soon and ready for this one.

nickdawgy
08-28-15, 06:36 PM
Mine hasn't shipped yet. Amazon always waits til Sunday or Monday.

Decker
08-28-15, 09:51 PM
I have the LE ordered so I can give everyone the Bionic finger.



My arm edition shipped! :banana:



Strangely silent unboxing video

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nickdawgy
08-29-15, 12:12 AM
Lol at how he's posing it at the last minute. Obviously a game store since there's like a bunch of copies of the game (among others) behind him.

dsa_shea
08-29-15, 12:23 AM
I wonder what lucky person will be picking up their "brand new but opened to prevent theft" special edition from Gamestop?

nickdawgy
08-29-15, 05:28 AM
I know a few people that work at GameStop that said they aren't getting the CE's in store.

slop101
08-29-15, 10:20 AM
Strangely silent unboxing video

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ep8lMiu0k2o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

What a mature person.

The first thing I would've done would be to make that hand give the finger.

mhg83
08-29-15, 11:53 PM
Been playing MGS 3 for the first time. After I finish 3 and GZ I'll be all caught up.

Maybe it's the setting but I'm just not getting sucked in like the previous ones. It's easy to get lost since every area looks the same :lol:

nickdawgy
08-30-15, 12:38 AM
What a mature person.

The first thing I would've done would be to make that hand give the finger.

It looked like he was contemplating it :lol:

RichC2
08-31-15, 08:58 AM
There any benefit of getting this on one platform over another? (PC Aside)

Adam Tyner
08-31-15, 09:06 AM
1080p on PS4 vs. 900p on XB1.

Solid Snake
08-31-15, 11:11 AM
What is up w/ XB1 and not going full resolution on some (if not a lot) of games? I remember it was a huge bitch fest towards them for not doing that on some games.

slop101
08-31-15, 11:26 AM
Isn't that because the Xb1 is just slightly less "powerful" than the PS4, that, and the PS4's slightly easier to program for?

Adam Tyner
08-31-15, 01:00 PM
What is up w/ XB1 and not going full resolution on some (if not a lot) of games?Something about its frame buffer being only 32MB, which isn't enough for a full 1080p frame if you use deferred rendering. It's all over my head.

RichC2
08-31-15, 01:05 PM
Basically the GPU is less powerful on the Xbox One, cut and dry. On PCs, it's like comparing the 8700 model of something to the 8750 model of something.

Frankly, 900p vs 1080p isn't a big difference and a solid framerate is way more important. Both appear to be locked at 60fps for a majority of the game with no issues, Xbox One cutscenes run at 50 fps, PS4 cutscenes are locked at 30 fps due to higher end shading that's going on, digital foundry has a write-up.

They both look and run excellent.

Solid Snake
08-31-15, 01:47 PM
Isn't that because the Xb1 is just slightly less "powerful" than the PS4, that, and the PS4's slightly easier to program for?

ironically, in the last gen.. it was PS3 being stronger but harder to work with.

From what I experience for multiplatform games, I always went w/ 360 almost as a given. Cuz it just worked all around better but the PS3 was a better system still. It's exclusives were all kinds of awesome. Better than 360.

nickdawgy
08-31-15, 08:08 PM
I preordered the CE awhile back and it was scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. Fast forward to an hour ago and I realize that my payment method needs to be revised because my debit card was on a possibly compromised list a couple of months ago and I have a different one now.

Scheduled delivery: September 3rd :mad: :(

james2025a
09-01-15, 08:03 AM
Not played a MGS game in years now, but picking this up today. On the fence about a second title to also buy. Mad Max looks a lot of fun, but mixed reviews. Also read a few reviews for Dying Light and that looked interesting. I think Max might have it.

slop101
09-01-15, 11:34 AM
I guess the PC version is just the Steam app that makes you download the game through that - the game is not on the PC disc at all. Fucking Konami...

mattysemo247
09-01-15, 05:22 PM
Got my CE today. The arm is really cool and detailed. The steelbook looks really good and has the exclusive blu ray inside. There wasn't an insert inside for all of the bonus items, but Best Buy emailed a code today. So overall, not bad for $80 (with a $10 reward cert coming soon). I'm downloading the patch now and hope to dive in soon.

Decker
09-01-15, 07:46 PM
Got my CE today. The arm is really cool and detailed. The steelbook looks really good and has the exclusive blu ray inside. There wasn't an insert inside for all of the bonus items, but Best Buy emailed a code today. So overall, not bad for $80 (with a $10 reward cert coming soon). I'm downloading the patch now and hope to dive in soon.

Same for me. That code wasn't the CE content though. I assume the bonus voucher is in the game disc (along with the map). I haven't opened that one yet. The Steelbook is really, really nice though.

OldBoy
09-01-15, 08:20 PM
is the gameplay very similar to, if not exactly like Ground Zeroes?

mattysemo247
09-01-15, 08:56 PM
Same for me. That code wasn't the CE content though. I assume the bonus voucher is in the game disc (along with the map). I haven't opened that one yet. The Steelbook is really, really nice though.

Nope. It's only the map. I'm pretty sure it's the code from Best Buy, because it says I have 16 items now, which match the back of the box.

mattysemo247
09-01-15, 09:23 PM
Yep, here we go

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/update-metal-gear-solid-5-ps4-collectors-edition-m/1100-6430121/

JCWBobC
09-01-15, 09:38 PM
The gameplay as far as running, aiming, shooting, etc... is just like Ground Zero. We've been playing since about 10 this morning and are at about 4%. Much harder than Ground Zero due to the areas being so big and a lot more soldiers to fight/sneak by/shoot...

adrenaline78
09-01-15, 09:41 PM
I played the prologue and so far I'm impressed. I got to the open land and am working on extracting some guy. Love the tactics. Unlike anything I've played before.

JCWBobC
09-01-15, 10:04 PM
We also got the guide book from Piggyback and it is gigantic but well worth the $15 due to how much information it provides.

slop101
09-01-15, 11:19 PM
Finished the intro...

"That was a bit over the top, no?"
~ Michale Bay

nickdawgy
09-02-15, 12:17 AM
Played a version a Buddy had while I wait for my CE on Thursday. Let me say that the game is excellent. Definitely deserving of the 10.

The prologue was weird as shit, though. Was that a young Pyscho Mantis? Was the fire dude the Col. from Snake Eater? what was real and what wasn't?

A few Pros so far:

You can refill your Fulton supplies mid mission. You don't know how annoying it was in Peace Walker trying to extract dudes and you run out of Fulton so you have to pick and choose, or you miss a hostage because of it.

The chicken hat is funny. I tried it once :lol:

The music tapes are a nice touch. Speaking of tapes, I love how you can listen to the briefing and still play. In PW, you had to stare at the static screen while listening to the tapes.

Cons:

The game has to eventually end I suppose.

Oh and the Ocelet/Kaz tapes are great.....a hug and a kiss, and a big F you. :lol:
(not really a spoiler since it's on one of the tapes at the beginning of the game)

mhg83
09-02-15, 12:59 AM
Does this take place after MGS 3? With the cassettes I saw in trailers I'm guessing 80's?

EinCB
09-02-15, 01:07 AM
It does. According to Wikipedia:

1974 – Peace Walker
1975 – Ground Zeroes
1984 – The Phantom Pain

slop101
09-02-15, 01:19 AM
Here's a handy little chart as to the chronology of the series:

http://i.imgur.com/Fix0cf4.jpg

mhg83
09-02-15, 02:25 AM
I only got to play for about an hour (still in the Hospital) Holy crap that shit was fucked up. When it was announced as an open world metal gear, I thought we'd lose the weirdness and cutscenes that make a MGS game great. Glad it's still intact :)

dsa_shea
09-03-15, 10:55 AM
A couple of complaints:

1. There is no pause. (I know they want to be make this realistic but I want to be able to pause the game when necessary. You never know when things will go down at your house.)
2. The controls are a bit quirky/janky as well. The default control for the right stick for moving the camera is inverted and it is not very smooth.
3. There is no way to adjust the controls in game and no way to go back to the main menu without closing the application first and rebooting the game.

These are "minor" annoyances but annoyances that should not exist in this good of a game.

slop101
09-03-15, 12:24 PM
2. The controls are a bit quirky/janky as well. The default control for the right stick for moving the camera is inverted and it is not very smooth.
In the intro, when the doctor asks you to look up, whichever direction you move the camera will be set to "up". So, basically, you did that.

dsa_shea
09-03-15, 01:24 PM
In the intro, when the doctor asks you to look up, whichever direction you move the camera will be set to "up". So, basically, you did that.

Yeah, but I had to push down to look up. What if I accidentally pushed down instead of up? Should I be forced to play like that for the rest of the game?

slop101
09-03-15, 02:17 PM
Yeah, but I had to push down to look up. What if I accidentally pushed down instead of up? Should I be forced to play like that for the rest of the game?Then you go into the options menu.

atxbomber
09-03-15, 03:00 PM
A couple of complaints:

1. There is no pause. (I know they want to be make this realistic but I want to be able to pause the game when necessary. You never know when things will go down at your house.)
2. The controls are a bit quirky/janky as well. The default control for the right stick for moving the camera is inverted and it is not very smooth.
3. There is no way to adjust the controls in game and no way to go back to the main menu without closing the application first and rebooting the game.

These are "minor" annoyances but annoyances that should not exist in this good of a game.

?

On Xbone the menu button pauses and gives you access to options.
According to Google the touchpad accomplishes this on the PS4.

Solid Snake
09-03-15, 03:40 PM
You can't look at the control set-up and change it? I'm pretty all MGS games have a setup under your control. If not, MGS2 onward for sure.

--------------

EDIT: So essentially dsa_shea is telling us that he's not good at games?

Why So Blu?
09-03-15, 03:45 PM
Quiet has some nice cans.

dsa_shea
09-03-15, 04:53 PM
I pushed both the options button and the touchpad and they take you to the same place, which does not have anywhere to change your settings. Also, they do not pause the game. I had the game in that menu at a cleared out base and heard a truck pull up, drop someone off and them start firing at me.

Supermallet
09-03-15, 05:00 PM
I'm enjoying it a lot so far. The prologue was a little too "watch this cinematic, play for one minute, watch another cinematic", but the main game is much better in that regard.

mhg83
09-03-15, 05:00 PM
I pushed both the options button and the touchpad and they take you to the same place, which does not have anywhere to change your settings. Also, they do not pause the game. I had the game in that menu at a cleared out base and heard a truck pull up, drop someone off and them start firing at me.

Can you pause it by clicking the home button? I did that in Bloodborne and it worked.

dsa_shea
09-03-15, 05:01 PM
Can you pause it by clicking the home button? I did that in Bloodborne and it worked.

I'm not sure.

Supermallet
09-03-15, 05:03 PM
I pushed both the options button and the touchpad and they take you to the same place, which does not have anywhere to change your settings. Also, they do not pause the game. I had the game in that menu at a cleared out base and heard a truck pull up, drop someone off and them start firing at me.

For this game, the touchpad is split into sectors. I believe upper left or lower right takes you to the pause menu. The middle takes you to the iDroid, as does the option button.

Solid Snake
09-03-15, 05:07 PM
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dsa_shea
09-03-15, 05:09 PM
For this game, the touchpad is split into sectors. I believe upper left or lower right takes you to the pause menu. The middle takes you to the iDroid, as does the option button.

Well, that makes a lot more sense. I wish that the game did a bit better job of explaining that. I appreciate your help.

slop101
09-03-15, 05:12 PM
I pushed both the options button and the touchpad and they take you to the same place, which does not have anywhere to change your settings. Also, they do not pause the game. I had the game in that menu at a cleared out base and heard a truck pull up, drop someone off and them start firing at me.I don't know about in-game, but there's an options menu at the title screen, before you start playing, with Snake in a chopper, with the top item being continue game and the next one or so being game options, pretty much like any other videogame out there...

nickdawgy
09-03-15, 05:23 PM
I thought there was no pause at first, too. But yeah, options menu.

I love the fact you can not take a shower and have blood and dirt and eventually flies all over you. Something about a serious cutscene and having insects buzzing furiously around your mug :lol:

Solid Snake
09-03-15, 06:48 PM
I thought there was no pause at first, too. But yeah, options menu.

I love the fact you can not take a shower and have blood and dirt and eventually flies all over you. Something about a serious cutscene and having insects buzzing furiously around your mug :lol:

Kojima. He loves to do funny/weird shit like that.

Supermallet
09-03-15, 07:26 PM
Well, that makes a lot more sense. I wish that the game did a bit better job of explaining that. I appreciate your help.

What tipped me off was that different button prompts highlighted different parts of the touch pad. I agree that it could have been more clear.

adrenaline78
09-03-15, 09:41 PM
Pause button is the left bottom of the touch pad. The "droid" is the upper right and map and other items are center.

mhg83
09-04-15, 10:31 PM
:(
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RichC2
09-04-15, 11:28 PM
The opening to the game was pure craziness, and makes me hope he gets recruited to make a cinematic Xmen game at some point

MoviePage
09-05-15, 06:19 PM
I just played through Ground Zeroes earlier this week and then moved straight into this and I'm totally hooked. Love it very much. I hadn't played a Metal Gear game since MGS2 and I forgot how fun (and offbeat) they can be.

This is turning out to be an amazing year for games.

Supermallet
09-05-15, 07:32 PM
I am just tearing up Afghanistan at this point. Those Russian fools can't stop me!

slop101
09-05-15, 07:50 PM
I am just tearing up Afghanistan at this point. Those Russian fools can't stop me!Are you being stealthy or running & gunning? I've found the less stealthy I play, the more fun I have...

RForte1189
09-06-15, 02:25 PM
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I have no laughed that hard in such a long time! HAHA

nickdawgy
09-07-15, 12:12 PM
I laughed once or twice. But for the most part that was incredibly stupid and a waste of time.

slop101
09-07-15, 03:05 PM
While I can figures out the menus and options in the game just fine, I'm having some issues as to where to go and what to do in order to progress. The game hand-holds you a bit too much in certain aspects, and then not at all in other aspects.

nickdawgy
09-07-15, 04:34 PM
Missions advance the story. Most side ops don't.

slop101
09-07-15, 06:11 PM
Spoilers, but it looks like the final level/scene/boss-fight was left out of the game.

Again, spoilers...

http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/09/metal-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pains-missing-ending-leaves-fans-disappointed/

Maybe they're holding it back for DLC, which is also pretty shitty.

mhg83
09-07-15, 06:29 PM
Spoilers, but it looks like the final level/scene/boss-fight was left out of the game.

Again, spoilers...

http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/09/metal-gear-solid-5-the-phantom-pains-missing-ending-leaves-fans-disappointed/

Maybe they're holding it back for DLC, which is also pretty shitty.

Maybe it was a time issue? If Konami had allowed development of the final missions we might have seen a late 2015/early 2016 release date?

slop101
09-07-15, 06:59 PM
Sure, but to cut out the actual ending/finale of the game?

RForte1189
09-07-15, 07:29 PM
I laughed once or twice. But for the most part that was incredibly stupid and a waste of time.

Well aren't you a downer. Growing up with MGS I found it to be quite accurate which is why it was hilarious.

RForte1189
09-07-15, 07:31 PM
While I can figures out the menus and options in the game just fine, I'm having some issues as to where to go and what to do in order to progress. The game hand-holds you a bit too much in certain aspects, and then not at all in other aspects.

To progress appropriately just do the main missions in order as well as the important side ops when they appear. Other than that, you can do whatever you want and it wont affect progress.

Solid Snake
09-07-15, 07:31 PM
Yeah. This has been running the field. It doesn't seem like a Kojima thing to do. Konami is just being a bitch about all of it.

Cutting out an ending. We all know Kojima loves his endings. So this wasn't a Kojima thing to do.

adrenaline78
09-07-15, 09:28 PM
On wow. Got to see quiet for the first time. She's bad ass.

mhg83
09-07-15, 11:25 PM
Her theme song is beautiful

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slop101
09-08-15, 12:34 AM
Did they model the character after that singer? They do look a lot alike.

Poink
09-08-15, 01:40 AM
I got the PS3 version. Haven't kept up with gaming lately, so I didn't realize it was still hitting last-gen systems. I actually skipped Ground Zeros because I assumed Phantom Pain would be next-gen only and didn't want to tempt myself into buying a $400 console for one game...

Anyways, the PS3 version is great. It's probably an "ignorance is bliss" thing, but it plays great and looks pretty damn good (for a PS3 game). I still think that The Last of Us was probably the peak of the PS3 in terms of graphics and presentation, but MGSV is proving to be a pretty sweet personal farewell to the system, since MGS4 was the first game I bought for it years ago.

It took a bit to get used to the more fragmented "Mission" style open world progression, but I'm enjoying it a lot now. The MGS series has always had a lot of replay value for me with all the ways you can approach situations, and being able to easily go back to specific parts is fantastic.

Personal best moment so far (Mission 20 Spoilers):

During the boss fight with the Man on Fire, I totally botched using the obvious water towers to stun him and hop in the helicopter. So I ran around prolonging my inevitable death for several minutes, struggling to figure out some other way. Suddenly, it started raining. He left in quite a hurry. Miller comes on the radio "Thank God for mother nature." Never has a game made me feel like a genius and a complete fuck up at the same time.

nickdawgy
09-08-15, 01:44 AM
Well aren't you a downer. Growing up with MGS I found it to be quite accurate which is why it was hilarious.

Eh, I think they tried too hard. If you want to laugh, go watch Metal Gear Awesome.

nickdawgy
09-08-15, 01:45 AM
On wow. Got to see quiet for the first time. She's bad ass.

Hmmmm, hmmmm, hmmmmm. Hmmmm, hmmm hmmm. Hmmm hmmm.

mhg83
09-08-15, 09:22 AM
Just found out you can Fulton yourself at the end of the mission :lol:

Solid Snake
09-08-15, 02:16 PM
Did they model the character after that singer? They do look a lot alike.

Yes. She was the model, voice, and actress for Quiet. Did the Japanese voice too.

mhg83
09-09-15, 09:01 AM
How do you determine who stays and who goes at the mother base? Is there an overall rating for each soldier? I'm just fultoning everyone I see and not spending much time looking over there stats. Soon I'll run out of room and will have to start eliminating soldiers.

nickdawgy
09-09-15, 11:18 AM
You check their stats to see who is best. At first I Fulton everyone. Then only A-C's. Eventually only A's and B's. You just fire the lower ranked ones.

RichC2
09-09-15, 12:48 PM
Grand Theft Afghanistan is pretty interesting, I feel like the controls could have been touched up a little but this is easily the best MGS I've played since the first two.

Solid Snake
09-09-15, 02:03 PM
It's the best selling MGS now. Granted it's a different time and kind of release but... it's the biggest seller for the franchise.

via GQ, 2 days ago:

Taking the figures from the charts into account, the majority of fans are playing Metal Gear Solid 5 on the PlayStation 4, with 72% of the game’s sales going to Sony’s current system, and 22% being represented by the Xbox One. Perhaps this is the case due to reports declaring the title to be better looking on the PS4 And as most people would expect, last-gen consoles are being left behind, as 3% of purchases were on PS3, and 2% were on Xbox 360. However, numbers for the PC’s sales have not been accounted for as of writing.

MoviePage
09-09-15, 09:38 PM
And Konami still won't give a fuck. The game has been out over a week now and the servers still aren't working at all on XB1.

DthRdrX
09-09-15, 10:52 PM
It's the best selling MGS now. Granted it's a different time and kind of release but... it's the biggest seller for the franchise.

via GQ, 2 days ago:

Best selling MGS!!! Time to fire whoever they have left that worked on it and outsource the franchise to who the hell knows where!!!

Poink
09-09-15, 11:28 PM
How do you determine who stays and who goes at the mother base? Is there an overall rating for each soldier? I'm just fultoning everyone I see and not spending much time looking over there stats. Soon I'll run out of room and will have to start eliminating soldiers.

Pretty sure it will just automatically boot out the lower rank soldiers. Once I hit the maximum number, the "feed" will say so and then say "1-x Soliders Dismissed."

I grab as many enemies as I can and try to only go for ones that have an A or higher in something now. Haven't micromanaged the whole Mother Base thing too much. I think all my teams are in the upper 30s currently.

adrenaline78
09-13-15, 09:43 PM
Just found out you can Fulton yourself at the end of the mission :lol:

How?

nickdawgy
09-14-15, 01:07 AM
Get in a truck or jeep and do it I think. Or climb on one.

Poink
09-14-15, 04:41 AM
You can hop on top the cargo containers and then attach the fulton. Once it's attached, you have to hold the action button again to grab onto the balloon.

I think the ability to fulton cargo comes fairly late in the game, but it's a great escape route when you go back to earlier missions trying to go pure stealth, since a lot of the larger bases/outposts seem to have a few containers around.

maxfisher
09-14-15, 08:59 AM
Popped this in last night and made it through the prologue. I was literally falling asleep by the end of it. I know that things will get better, but good lord was that painful. The only reason I picked this up was reviews seeming to confirm it had moved the series away from endless cutscenes. That first hour and a half was brutally boring, so I can't wait to actually get to do something tonight.

Dan
09-14-15, 01:48 PM
It may just be my mood, because I'm usually not a big fan of Jim, but he's right on fucking point in this video.
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edit: SPOILERS WITHIN THE VIDEO!

adrenaline78
09-15-15, 08:27 PM
It may just be my mood, because I'm usually not a big fan of Jim, but he's right on fucking point in this video.
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Some spoilers in here. I had to stop the video. Anyhow. I'm to ep. 20. Having trouble with the end of it.

Solid Snake
09-16-15, 09:47 AM
Is he wearing a fucking moo moo?

Dan
09-16-15, 11:47 AM
Some spoilers in here. I had to stop the video. Anyhow. I'm to ep. 20. Having trouble with the end of it.
Yeah, he mentions that in his opening, but I should have made it clear too.
Is he wearing a fucking moo moo?
Yes, because
he breathes through his skin.

Solid Snake
09-18-15, 01:50 PM
I'm so pleased w/ the game but also saddened by the Truth. It's Kojima's acknowledged appreciation for the fans. It hurts me cuz I didn't want that but also I respect it. Goddamn you, Konami.

mhg83
09-20-15, 11:22 PM
I'm about 27 hours in and only on episode eight. I'm really stuck on episode eight . But unlike other games I would rage from failing a mission multiple times, this game has the opposite effect. I have changed up strategies at least five different approaches and each has such a different response from the AI it never feels repetitive. I did break down and watch a walk through and the player had a totally different strategy I never even tried out.

nickdawgy
09-21-15, 02:30 AM
I finished the story up about a week after release. I don't normally play games this much (time, and wanting to stretch them out usually) but vacation, and the fact that it was something I've been waiting for since it was announced made me press forward.

It is very worthy of the score it got. Weird twist though that shocked me somewhat (I mean it's Metal Gear, we knew this) although I read a few spoilers beforehand.

Deftones
09-22-15, 06:59 PM
So, is there a way to get better at stealth? I absolutely fucking suck at it and usually after about taking out 2-3 guys, I get noticed. I just end up going guns blazing and take out a base or whatever.

adrenaline78
09-22-15, 08:55 PM
I'm on episode 34 or 35. It's the caravan( extreme) mission. Almost had it first try and died once I got in the heli. Boo.

Anyhow, such a long game and it feels like no progress has been made. I'm about 60 side mission in too

Poink
09-22-15, 10:05 PM
So, is there a way to get better at stealth? I absolutely fucking suck at it and usually after about taking out 2-3 guys, I get noticed. I just end up going guns blazing and take out a base or whatever.

I had the same issue; I'd start off stealthy, but end up having to murder everyone eventually after being spotted by multiple enemies. I got better at it from just playing and getting a feel for how things work. You'd be surprised just how close you can walk in front of guards before they take notice. Seems like 40-50 meters is more than safe if you're in the crouching walk and not completely in the open. Being in the "rough" as opposed to on the road / within the outpost makes a huge difference, despite how obvious Snake might look on your TV. Took me a while to realize that yeah, they CAN'T see the dude crouched in the grass 30 feet away from them, wearing all black and with a wolf next to him. :)

Crawling is even better. If you're going for a stationary guard, crawl towards him. This will make you virtually invisible to anyone more than like 10 feet away.

Using non-lethal weapons makes stealth a lot easier, too. Enemies won't radio it in if you hit them with a tranq dart like they will if you shoot them with live ammunition. They'll probably move and look for you on their own, but it's not as bad as the area going on alert.

Depending on how far along you are or what equipment you're developing helps. Once you have more gadgets at your disposal and have silencers on all your weapons it's pretty easy to get by undetected, even if you're killing guards left and right.

mhg83
09-23-15, 07:42 AM
So, is there a way to get better at stealth? I absolutely fucking suck at it and usually after about taking out 2-3 guys, I get noticed. I just end up going guns blazing and take out a base or whatever.

I've heard once you get Quiet as a buddy you can have her use a tranq sniper rifle on enemies. That should help a lot.

Solid Snake
09-23-15, 09:57 AM
Guys, it's a franchise based on Stealth. Shoot every guy in the head from faraway w/ a silencer. Or learn patterns. Learn how to distract too. Maybe change the time of day? Make as many night missions as you can?

I had a blast w/ this game. Goddamn you, Konami.

gerrythedon
09-23-15, 03:06 PM
I had a blast w/ this game. Goddamn you, Konami.

stop being a fucking hater! ;)

http://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-22207-Konami-Refutes-Claims-That-it-s-Turned-its-Back-on-AAA.html

Solid Snake
09-23-15, 03:35 PM
Heh.

I can't see Metal Gear going w/o Kojima. That shit is way too much of Kojima's person to go on w/o him.

mhg83
09-23-15, 03:40 PM
stop being a fucking hater! ;)

http://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-22207-konami-refutes-claims-that-it-s-turned-its-back-on-aaa.html

"pull the lever!"

;)

james2025a
09-25-15, 08:31 AM
After playing the shit out of Mad Max i have finally moved on to this. I got through the opening sequence, which i thought was pretty cool and now in the open world. Its been a long time since i have played a MGS game, so taking a little getting used to with the stealth. I spent some time last night trying to rescue the guy and the enemies kept spotting me. Certainly will take some time. I am having to adjust to the controls as well. I managed to resuce the guy, got on the horse after the chopper left and now have to get past those weird zombie like soldiers. Only got once chance before i shut down for the night, and could not figure out how to get my horse to run fast. Trotting through the zombies firing and got killed pretty quick. Will get back to this over the weekend. Pretty sure i will enjoy the hell out of this game though.

maxfisher
09-25-15, 08:44 AM
So, is there a way to get better at stealth? I absolutely fucking suck at it and usually after about taking out 2-3 guys, I get noticed. I just end up going guns blazing and take out a base or whatever.

I tag as many people as I can from a distance, start with the most isolated and sneak around trying to take everyone out with headshots from the silenced tranq pistol. So far, that's pretty effective, but I'm only through the first 7 story missions and about a dozen side missions. I will say, sandstorms can be a huge help. I had a 'kidnap the solider' side mission in a base where he was plopped down among 8 others guys. While I was figuring out an approach, a sandstorm came up. So I just crawled in, knocked him out, threw him over my back and sprinted out of there.

james2025a
09-29-15, 07:18 AM
So I have been playing this game a bit now and got the hang of it. Rusty early on (not played a MGS game since the original PS1), but after a while it becomes second nature. Completed about 10 main missions and a number of sides. The game is a hell of a lot of fun, and the replay value will be huge. I generally scope out a base and mark as many guards as I can before I do anything. Then I take out all those furthest out by stealth, crawl or sneak into a base and try taking out as many as I can by stealth until the fire fight starts. I have also taken a few places out just by sniping everyone. Only mission so far that proved a problem was destroying the tanks, but a rocket launcher finished them. At first I was sneaking it and laying C4 next to them both, but this was too time consuming and got seen a few times.

The one flaw with this game so far seems to be that missions occur at the same places too often. I understand it has limitations, but I would like to have had a different location for every main mission.

nickdawgy
10-01-15, 10:33 AM
So what does everyone think of Big Medic?

james2025a
10-01-15, 11:11 AM
I am REALLY into this game now. Its proving to be rather excellent. Just got beyond the part with Quiet. The sandbox has opened up more in these missions so making me happy. The one problem i have with the game is my wife. She is going bat shit crazy at the moment and last night grabbed my PS4, ran out into the street and threatened to smash it. If only Snake had been there to put her in a choke hold and put her to sleep.

dsa_shea
10-01-15, 11:26 AM
I am REALLY into this game now. Its proving to be rather excellent. Just got beyond the part with Quiet. The sandbox has opened up more in these missions so making me happy. The one problem i have with the game is my wife. She is going bat shit crazy at the moment and last night grabbed my PS4, ran out into the street and threatened to smash it. If only Snake had been there to put her in a choke hold and put her to sleep.

Are you married to EddieMoney's soon to be ex's sister?

Solid Snake
10-01-15, 11:39 AM
So what does everyone think of Big Medic?

Ehhhhhhhhh. I GET what Kojima is doing. His little love letter to us being Snake through all the years and the whatnot. I don't like what it means in the overall of the narrative. Kind of just over complicates the history leading up to MG1 and ends up making me feel hollow about who've we've been playing as.

I am REALLY into this game now. Its proving to be rather excellent. Just got beyond the part with Quiet. The sandbox has opened up more in these missions so making me happy. The one problem i have with the game is my wife. She is going bat shit crazy at the moment and last night grabbed my PS4, ran out into the street and threatened to smash it. If only Snake had been there to put her in a choke hold and put her to sleep.

I've never choked a bitch in public.

Also... wtf is up w/ your wife? That's extreme. Or have you been that shitty fuck that all he does is play video games and the whatnot?

james2025a
10-01-15, 11:52 AM
Well it would not have been in public, you could have waited until she walked back in the house. LOL.

Its a long story mate, and whilst it would make an enjoyable thread read i am gonna keep it to myself. Lets just say that she has basically turned into the Incredible Hulk and everything i do at the moment pisses her off. I play on my PS4 (when she is in the house) at most for maybe an hour...or two on a good day. My wife has zero hobbies, and it pisses her off that in some moments i choose to relax playing a game rather than giving her attention. Latino women....they can be hard work.

Solid Snake
10-01-15, 12:51 PM
Latina women. A bane and a boon all at the same time.

So she has a job, I assume? Or just at home cuz... it's crazy not to have a hobby.

james2025a
10-01-15, 03:14 PM
Very true. They are hot...but so is their temper. She does have a job, but no hobby. I think as she doesn't have one, that i should do my best to keep her entertained at all times. The closest she gets to a hobby is watching Spanish TV shows, which is basically hell on earth to me. The fact that she sees playing video games as childish does not help.

I expect that by the end of the week i will no longer be able to play this game as my PS4 will be trashed. LOL. Better back my saves up asap i guess.

Solid Snake
10-01-15, 04:05 PM
Hrmm. Depending on your age group, or even hers, I can see how she may think that. Culturally too.

That sucks. Admittingly... you are being more active than she is when she's just watching Telenovelas. But I don't think telling her that would be a good thing.

I can't help you out on that, amigo. It also may help to ask as to wtf her problem is. If you're only doing an hour, or two, a day... I see nothing really wrong. Maybe she's just turning into a C unt? That's dangerous too.

mhg83
10-01-15, 04:45 PM
Very true. They are hot...but so is their temper. She does have a job, but no hobby. I think as she doesn't have one, that i should do my best to keep her entertained at all times. The closest she gets to a hobby is watching Spanish TV shows, which is basically hell on earth to me. The fact that she sees playing video games as childish does not help.

I expect that by the end of the week i will no longer be able to play this game as my PS4 will be trashed. LOL. Better back my saves up asap i guess.

Is she one of those crazy women that Record and upload destroying game consoles? I always thought those were fake till I read your post :eek:

james2025a
10-02-15, 08:31 AM
LOL. No. I was actually surprised when she did it. She looked like such a crazy person. She got the inspiration from the recent youtube video of some old guy taking the hammer to a fat guys PS4. I found the video hilarious (the old guy mumbling some redneck as he smashes is comedy gold) and i guess she thought it would be a fitting punishment. I was a little concerned (for my game saves only), but i was not going to stop her. Lifes too short.

james2025a
10-02-15, 11:25 AM
Getting back to the game, i have gotten to the point where the dog is now a partner. The last couple of missions have taken some serious time to stealth it out and get the target completed. I do love the added parts of keeping your base running and getting a solid team together. Not sure i am doing a great job of it, but enjoying it all the same.

Can someone answer if when the game is completed it just ends or is there a way to continue on or even repeat missions? I want to play this to the point where i have every weapon available. I get the feeling its going to just end, so i had better enjoy a lot of playing around and building resources while i can.

slop101
10-02-15, 11:38 AM
I want a thread in Other all about james2025a's marriage... I can tell it would be thread of the year!

james2025a
10-02-15, 01:15 PM
No mate. Eddie Money has that award already, and whilst my story would make a good read, Eddies has been golden. My wife might act badly, but damn Eddies ex is a real test for any mans patience. Eddie is a saint for putting up with what he has. I was considering starting a thread, but thought maybe not the best of ideas. Lets see how things pan out as its early days in our mayhem. Could get worse or a miracle might happen and she might come to some kind of sense. If its the former then watch the Other forum. For the last two nights its been stopping at her grandparents and coming home late, silent treatment and separate rooms. Which is awesome as i get to play more on MGS.
Keerrrrr-chinnnggg!!!!!

slop101
10-02-15, 03:06 PM
Nice!

nickdawgy
10-02-15, 03:55 PM
Getting back to the game, i have gotten to the point where the dog is now a partner. The last couple of missions have taken some serious time to stealth it out and get the target completed. I do love the added parts of keeping your base running and getting a solid team together. Not sure i am doing a great job of it, but enjoying it all the same.

Can someone answer if when the game is completed it just ends or is there a way to continue on or even repeat missions? I want to play this to the point where i have every weapon available. I get the feeling its going to just end, so i had better enjoy a lot of playing around and building resources while i can.

You can continue playing.

Deftones
10-02-15, 07:07 PM
I don't like when you get the dog, it doesn't seem like you can switch back to the horse initially. I've had the dog for a bit (probably 2 missions and many side missions) and it still won't let me switch back to the horse. Makes it a PITA to take on missions where you can't be dropped right by the area you need to be.

james2025a
10-02-15, 08:01 PM
Well this game has gone from brilliant to pissed me right off. Played a bit tonight and just chose to start Mission 14....next second the game is right back at the start (first time you arrive at Home Base). At first I thought the cut scene was a reminder of what had been, but then realized that it's wiped my save and reset it. I am trying to see if there is any way I can recover my save, but doubt it. This has happened a couple of times in my life and it's hard for me to continue on with the game right after it happens. I might have to give this a miss for a week or two just to get back into the mindset of not minding going through it all again. Majorly pissed off.

On the plus side, a miracle happened and my wife apologized. That was outta left field.

atxbomber
10-02-15, 11:24 PM
I don't like when you get the dog, it doesn't seem like you can switch back to the horse initially. I've had the dog for a bit (probably 2 missions and many side missions) and it still won't let me switch back to the horse. Makes it a PITA to take on missions where you can't be dropped right by the area you need to be.

It won't let you switch tactical buddies during the mission select screen or in the iDroid? If you're in the field, on you iDroid under Buddy Support you should be able to select D-Horse to replace D-Dog -- he'll parachute in like a supply drop and D-Dog will automatically fulton out of the AO.

james2025a
10-03-15, 05:34 PM
So it turns out what I was talking about was a flashback mission. Errrrrrr.....ok. So I guess I was a dumbass, but reading about save resets it felt weird. Got onto the Africa sections now. This game is truly awesome. The draw distance is superb. I was watching a chopper disappear into the distance and it took forever to get out of sight and just got smaller and smaller. I have not encountered much difficulty in this game yet. But will be playing and replaying this one for a long time to come. Game of the Year. Quite possibly.

maxfisher
10-05-15, 03:26 PM
I'm enjoying this just enough to keep putting time into it, but it's started almost feeling like a chore. I was trying to put my finger on it and I think it's that the world is kind of boring. I'm fifteen missions in and have done all of the available side ops so far. The missions themselves are enjoyable, if a bit repetitive, but running around the world is boring and not really fun at all. With games like Witcher 3 and Far Cry 4, there's always the sense of a living, breathing world where the unexpected can happen and you can stumble into random, odd situations. With this, the overall world just feels like a time consuming hub to reach individual mission areas. I've got enough GMP now that I may just start taking the copter everywhere instead of traversing the landscape, to see if that picks up the pace for me.

JCWBobC
10-06-15, 04:16 PM
Very big update today to make Metal Gear online where you play against other people around the world.

EinCB
10-07-15, 03:04 PM
I have not played the game, but apparently you can now buy insurance, with real money, in order to get limited protection for your base.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/10/6/9460605/mgs5-base-insurance-microtransactions

slop101
10-07-15, 03:31 PM
Would you still need that insurance/update if you play offline?

james2025a
10-08-15, 09:45 AM
I said possible GoTY. For me its actually between this and Witcher III. Probably give it to Witcher as its just superb in every respect.

I have decided to go back and complete all the missing targets i missed for earlier missions. I am around mission 20 now, but think time is better spent completing all those things before moving on. Snake is now in Demon mode and i am not too happy about not being able to wash off. I might try and lower the demon points, but it might be more of a chore than i want it to be.

nickdawgy
10-08-15, 12:31 PM
I didn't even bother with the FOB stuff, free or otherwise. I won't even attempt to play online either. Waste of time.

atxbomber
10-08-15, 08:28 PM
The FOB are pretty fun, actually. Even if you don't care about attacking or defending your base, you still benefit from the resource gain and increased staff capacity they provide (and it pretty much the only way to level up enough to develop the highest level gear).

If you're worried about losing guys to other players, place the ones you can't live without on direct contract, and invest some GMP into automated defense. A decent security team can handle a lot of threats on their own, and a successful defense will net you a lot of GMP, resources, and even volunteers.

Don't waste MB coins (and really don't waste real money) on base insurance.

james2025a
10-15-15, 12:44 PM
I am seriously addicted to this game right now. I am having very little trouble with completing any mission given to me and not getting an A or S rating. I read a lot of criticism today on another site and not sure why the game is getting any at all. Top notch game in every respect.

Deftones
10-15-15, 05:01 PM
loved this game up until this shelanthropus fight. fuck this game, fuck that boss, fuck it all. i've played it 20 times with no luck. watched videos. fuck it, fuck it fuck it

T-bone22
10-15-15, 06:00 PM
loved this game up until this shelanthropus fight.

Rocket Launcher and a whole lot of running. Let your chopper fuck him up, and manually call in another when it's inevitably destroyed.

Deftones
10-15-15, 07:31 PM
Rocket Launcher and a whole lot of running. Let your chopper fuck him up, and manually call in another when it's inevitably destroyed.

did that. i'd always get him down to about 10 - 15% of health, then he'd sit and blast that fucking laser weapon. i finally beat it 2 tries after i posted my message. that was the most frustrating gaming moment i've had in decades.

Boba Fett
10-15-15, 08:27 PM
did that. i'd always get him down to about 10 - 15% of health, then he'd sit and blast that fucking laser weapon. i finally beat it 2 tries after i posted my message. that was the most frustrating gaming moment i've had in decades.

Hide behind a cliff; the AI in that fight is non-existent.

Deftones
10-16-15, 12:39 AM
Did that too. Then couldn't get angle to shoot him

atxbomber
10-16-15, 08:41 PM
Did that too. Then couldn't get angle to shoot him

What I found worked best for me was just to take cover during that phase of the battle and not worry about attacking him at all. It'd take a few shots at me then jump back down and return to its normal (and much more manageable) attack pattern.

Interestingly enough, the [Extreme] replay of the battle later on was significantly easier for me than the original. Guess I'd developed better equipment by then, or I just had a better understanding of the battle than the first time through, or whatever.

Trying to get trough the start of Code Talker on [Extreme] without using "cheating" equipment -- now THAT had me pulling my hair out.

starseed1981
10-17-15, 05:02 PM
I'm very confused by the universal acclaim this one is getting. I'm about six missions in and there isn't really any story . And the gameplay reminds me of Splinter Cell. Maybe it's my fault for not reading up on the game prior to purchasing but this definitely isn't the linear cinematic action adventure I was hoping for. It's really reminding me of Bioshock Infinite: very well made but mechanically it's three years too late. Are the missions in the last three quarters of the game more of the first batch?

james2025a
10-18-15, 11:32 AM
The game is a sandbox open environment. Most of those are non-linear. I think the gameplay in Splinter Cell should have reminded you of the original MGS. Personally I think Bioshock Infinite was excellent all round. I think if you were after a linear cinematic game then you should have bought a game from 10 years ago. These days a lot of games try to give the player more variety rather than a pointed storyline with few to no options for story deviation.

Oh and the story is a bit lacking I agree. I am only a couple of missions away from the end and the story has practically only just started and begun in the last few missions. In a game as fun to play as this I don't mind too much if story is lacking. Case in point will be Just Cause 3. Story will be crap, but who cares when the game will be all kinds of awesome.

adrenaline78
10-18-15, 09:11 PM
The communication tower is a great place to "hide" from him. You can bombard him with rockets and grenades and he cant hit you

RichC2
10-18-15, 09:24 PM
The game is a sandbox open environment. Most of those are non-linear. I think the gameplay in Splinter Cell should have reminded you of the original MGS. Personally I think Bioshock Infinite was excellent all round. I think if you were after a linear cinematic game then you should have bought a game from 10 years ago. These days a lot of games try to give the player more variety rather than a pointed storyline with few to no options for story deviation.

Oh and the story is a bit lacking I agree. I am only a couple of missions away from the end and the story has practically only just started and begun in the last few missions. In a game as fun to play as this I don't mind too much if story is lacking. Case in point will be Just Cause 3. Story will be crap, but who cares when the game will be all kinds of awesome.

Yeah, I'm in the camp that's pretty bored of most of the open world / sandbox titles. They lack urgency and drive, get repetitive quick, and are rarely consistently fun enough to compel me to keep pushing forward in em. It's one of the reasons I was so keen on more linear titles of late, such as Bloodborne and the first Tomb Raider, over titles like Sunset Overdrive and Skyrim. I loved the intro to MGS V, it was weird and fun, and then it fell off really quick.

I also get the BioShock Infinity complaint. The world was cool and story was decent, but the gameplay was pretty dated -- the load screen break-ups and half-assed rail system complicated things.

james2025a
10-19-15, 09:34 AM
I do appreciate linear games that have killer storylines, but they tend to be games that you need to invest some gaming time each time you sit down and play them. These days my gaming is sporadic, so i equally appreciate games that i can pick up, play for 10 mins and then turn off.

The Tomb Raider game was rather excellent. I started out loving that series, but it lost its way. Nice to see it back on form.

starseed1981
10-19-15, 10:58 AM
The game is a sandbox open environment. Most of those are non-linear. I think the gameplay in Splinter Cell should have reminded you of the original MGS. Personally I think Bioshock Infinite was excellent all round. I think if you were after a linear cinematic game then you should have bought a game from 10 years ago. These days a lot of games try to give the player more variety rather than a pointed storyline with few to no options for story deviation.

Oh and the story is a bit lacking I agree. I am only a couple of missions away from the end and the story has practically only just started and begun in the last few missions. In a game as fun to play as this I don't mind too much if story is lacking. Case in point will be Just Cause 3. Story will be crap, but who cares when the game will be all kinds of awesome.

Well Guns of the patriots only came out 7 years ago and considering the lineage of the series I don't think expecting this one to be a linear cinematic thing was too out of line. But other than that I agree.

maxfisher
10-21-15, 01:18 PM
When Quiet's your buddy on a mission, is there something you're supposed to do to keep her with you? I've been using her quite a bit and it's like 75% of the time she's nowhere to be found and her commands are all grayed out.

I'm still enjoying the missions and side missions on this and even kind of like the resource management and development aspects, but I'm sick of the shitty open world. It's basically a pretty loading screen between missions except it requires you to hold down the thumbstick.

T-bone22
10-21-15, 04:43 PM
Go to Buddy Support on the iDroid and manually choose a close sniping spot if she's not around. You really should be having her scout camps before you go in too. She'll mark all enemies, and show the locations of prisoners. Very helpful.

She's really awesome, especially when you get her a silenced tranq.

Poink
10-21-15, 04:52 PM
With Quiet you have to open up the iDroid and go to Missions > Buddy Support and then you can tell her where to go. When you first drop into an area she tends to run off to the nearest outpost on her own, which is rarely where you're heading.

There's a Scout command that has her run around an area and she'll spot/mark enemies and then pick a nearby sniping spot once finished. So it's best to send her ahead of you; by the time you get there she'll settle in and be ready to attack. She does tend to miss certain enemies if they're inside a building or tent, so be careful you don't run into unexpected trouble. D-Dog is hands down the best at marking enemies/prisoners.

Quiet also has a menu command for "Attack" which lets you pick among a few different sniping spots in the event that she automatically ends up at one where most guards are out of her line of sight. Just have her hop over the the other side.

One thing to keep in mind when using her is that she'll kill any enemy that spots you if she has a clear shot at them. Usually this isn't a problem, but there have been many times where I was trying to keep a particular guard alive so I could fulton him, and he'd spot me. Before I could Tranquilize / CQC him, his head would explode before the Reflex Mode ended. Sometimes mid throw / chokehold. It's actually kind of hilarious, but can be annoying when you spend 10 minutes trying to capture some S++ rank soldier only for him to get brutally executed.

maxfisher
10-21-15, 04:59 PM
Thanks guys. Had no idea that option was in the iDroid.

Poink
10-21-15, 05:18 PM
Yeah, for the hundreds of Tips they show on the loading screens, somehow they managed to leave that one out. I think I only found it because I was like "she's not doing anything, I'm gonna call in D-Dog instead." :D

Mok
10-21-15, 08:28 PM
Ddog is awesome just upgraded to stun, he is unstoppable. I love doing wandering solider, he spots him and then I order him to stun.

james2025a
10-22-15, 11:16 AM
I got into a rhythm of not using a buddy at all. The only downside was traveling distances between locations. I have started using DDog more than. Not used Quiet or the Walker once yet, but will do when i start going back over missions.

I am on the penultimate mission but not had much of a chance to play this past week. Hopefully will be completed by the weekend and then i can go back and 100% it.

maxfisher
11-18-15, 04:56 PM
So I'm down to around 15 side missions and the last 4 actual missions. Talk about fizzling out at the end. I mean, it basically just abandons its admittedly awful narrative and plops you back into missions you've already played but with a difficulty modifier, including replaying their cinematics that are no less horrible the second time, but are now in no way part of any attempt at a story. Maybe the last 1 or 2 will be different, but it really has the feel of just giving up.

I will say that the game evokes more conflicting feelings in me that just about anything I remember playing. I love the in-mission gameplay and think the graphics are mostly beautiful. I somewhat like the leveling up your base mgmt and support staff aspects, though they do grow tedious. I hate just about everything else in the game, from the ridiculous story to horrible script and voice acting to the dead and empty open world to occasionally being forced into a tutorial, even if I'm dozens of hours in. I would seriously rank the game higher if it had no story or 'world' at all and just consisted of a text list of missions to select from and the missions themselves.