Allen Gregory - Fox's new addition to Sunday Animation
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Allen Gregory - Fox's new addition to Sunday Animation
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"The series follows Allen Gregory De Longpre (Jonah Hill), a precocious 7 year-old being raised by his father Richard and his father's life partner Jeremy, and due to a recession, has been forced to attend elementary school."
Does anyone else think that this looks pretty crappy?
"The series follows Allen Gregory De Longpre (Jonah Hill), a precocious 7 year-old being raised by his father Richard and his father's life partner Jeremy, and due to a recession, has been forced to attend elementary school."
Does anyone else think that this looks pretty crappy?
#3
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If the earth opened up and swallowed Johan Hill, I'd be okay with it. I'm going to have to pass.
#5
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So does this mean no more American Dad until the football season is over?
#6
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Go read the graphic novel "Adventures of Barry Ween" by Judd Winnick and see where Hill stole his material from.
#7
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I don't expect this will last long, but some of the promos I've seen have made me laugh a few times. My favorite bit though is this one:
Allen: "Thanks Jeremy."
Jeremy: "You're welcome."
Allen: "For nothing. You didn't let me finish there. Please don't interrupt me again."
I don't know what it is about that part, but every time I hear it I can't stop laughing.
Allen: "Thanks Jeremy."
Jeremy: "You're welcome."
Allen: "For nothing. You didn't let me finish there. Please don't interrupt me again."
I don't know what it is about that part, but every time I hear it I can't stop laughing.
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American Dad is coming back Nov. 20th, then Cleveland will move to 7:30. They're going to sort of rotate in and out around the new shows. There's still Bob's Burgers and Napoleon Dynamite on the shelf for midseason as well. Dynamite is only 6 episodes and Allen Gregory is only 7, but they don't want to use the 7PM slot for new episodes even after football. It does mean fewer reruns on the schedule at least.
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^^^I didn't see it on my dvr for Sunday. I just hating the shuffling around from Fox of American Dad when its my favorite out of the Seth Mcfarlene shows.
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Here's the USA TODAY review by Robert Bianco:
Some children should be neither seen nor heard.
As Fox viewers already know, we live in an age where anything goes on TV, and that includes showing a 7-year-old boy's explicit sexual fantasy about an overweight, 68-year-old woman, complete with his snide question about what it's like "down there." Well, fine: Andrew Mogel, Jarrad Paul and Jonah Hill, the co-creators of the incredibly sour new cartoon, Allen Gregory (* out of four; Sunday, 8:30 ET/PT) didn't create the current ethos and they're hardly the first, or even the worst, to exploit it.
But if you want people to watch a show with scenes like that, there'd better be some redeeming reason beyond the cringe factor — even if that reason is simply that it's funny.
Gross, ugly, vicious and stupid —Allen is all of that, to be sure. But funny? Too rarely to matter.
Hill provides the voice of Allen Gregory De Longpre, a pretentious, dandified, relentlessly nasty child whose delusions of grandeur are fed by his gay father, Richard (French Stewart). Allen hates his adopted Cambodian sister Julie (Joy Osmanski) and has as little respect for Richard's life partner Jeremy (Nat Faxon) as Richard does himself. ("Richard, I thought we talked about you not humiliating me in public.") And maybe they both have reason, as Jeremy is definitely purchased and, it turns out, probably straight.
Unfortunately for Allen, Richard is having financial problems that require him to send Allen to public school. Initially, he fares about as well as you'd expect for a boy who insults his fellow students and insists on having wine with his lunch sushi. But the superintendent wants to have a De Longpre in school, even one with incontinence problems, and things eventually swing Allen's way.
Though not, of course, before the show has managed to make us hate every character except Julie. Her turn, no doubt, comes next week.
Creators have a right to do the show they want, even if they're the only ones who want it — but must every character be so horrid? Couldn't Allen be effete and misguided but with a good soul, instead of a total irredeemable brat?
Granted, the humor on the first and still best Fox cartoon, The Simpsons can be incredibly sharp at times. But when it comes to the core family, it's not heartless. It cares about its characters, and expects us to care as well.
If Allen makes caring superfluous, it's because the show is less a sitcom than an intellectual exercise. Plot and character mean nothing. We're simply supposed to be impressed by its outrageousness and rave over its willingness to "go there" — no matter how idiotic "there" is or how damaging going there may be.
Go if you like — but you're going on your own.
Some children should be neither seen nor heard.
As Fox viewers already know, we live in an age where anything goes on TV, and that includes showing a 7-year-old boy's explicit sexual fantasy about an overweight, 68-year-old woman, complete with his snide question about what it's like "down there." Well, fine: Andrew Mogel, Jarrad Paul and Jonah Hill, the co-creators of the incredibly sour new cartoon, Allen Gregory (* out of four; Sunday, 8:30 ET/PT) didn't create the current ethos and they're hardly the first, or even the worst, to exploit it.
But if you want people to watch a show with scenes like that, there'd better be some redeeming reason beyond the cringe factor — even if that reason is simply that it's funny.
Gross, ugly, vicious and stupid —Allen is all of that, to be sure. But funny? Too rarely to matter.
Hill provides the voice of Allen Gregory De Longpre, a pretentious, dandified, relentlessly nasty child whose delusions of grandeur are fed by his gay father, Richard (French Stewart). Allen hates his adopted Cambodian sister Julie (Joy Osmanski) and has as little respect for Richard's life partner Jeremy (Nat Faxon) as Richard does himself. ("Richard, I thought we talked about you not humiliating me in public.") And maybe they both have reason, as Jeremy is definitely purchased and, it turns out, probably straight.
Unfortunately for Allen, Richard is having financial problems that require him to send Allen to public school. Initially, he fares about as well as you'd expect for a boy who insults his fellow students and insists on having wine with his lunch sushi. But the superintendent wants to have a De Longpre in school, even one with incontinence problems, and things eventually swing Allen's way.
Though not, of course, before the show has managed to make us hate every character except Julie. Her turn, no doubt, comes next week.
Creators have a right to do the show they want, even if they're the only ones who want it — but must every character be so horrid? Couldn't Allen be effete and misguided but with a good soul, instead of a total irredeemable brat?
Granted, the humor on the first and still best Fox cartoon, The Simpsons can be incredibly sharp at times. But when it comes to the core family, it's not heartless. It cares about its characters, and expects us to care as well.
If Allen makes caring superfluous, it's because the show is less a sitcom than an intellectual exercise. Plot and character mean nothing. We're simply supposed to be impressed by its outrageousness and rave over its willingness to "go there" — no matter how idiotic "there" is or how damaging going there may be.
Go if you like — but you're going on your own.
#15
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The worst new show of the television season. I am not too sure of the target audience for this supposed comedy. The concept was nothing special for animation and nothing stood out about the dialogue.
#16
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Hated this - bring back Bob's Burgers. I'd even go with a censored form of Archer.
hmmm...could be one of the reasons I no longer watch Family Guy on a consistent basis or care about any of the other Macfarlane toons.
hmmm...could be one of the reasons I no longer watch Family Guy on a consistent basis or care about any of the other Macfarlane toons.
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I thought it was decent. I watched this back-to-back with MTV's new animated show, Good Vibes -- I liked that more.
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#20
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Just caught the latest episode on DVR. This show is borderline unwatchable. Out of the 6 main characters the only one even remotely likeable is the daughter. The dad and Allen Gregory aren't funny at all, they're just mean spirited and awful.
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I had the misfortune of watching this week's episode. I don't really know the premise since this is the only one I've seen, but this is quite probably the worst show I have ever seen (and I grew up in the 70's!)
Painfully unfunny, yet I felt compelled to watch until the end just to be sure. When it is eventually cancelled, I'm sure the producers will console themselves with the thought that it was "too edgy" which it definitely is not. All of the characters embody the most low-brow stereotypes, much like a turn of the century minstrel show. I suppose they think that is the same as humor, but as NORML observed, it's just mean-spirited.
Painfully unfunny, yet I felt compelled to watch until the end just to be sure. When it is eventually cancelled, I'm sure the producers will console themselves with the thought that it was "too edgy" which it definitely is not. All of the characters embody the most low-brow stereotypes, much like a turn of the century minstrel show. I suppose they think that is the same as humor, but as NORML observed, it's just mean-spirited.
#22
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What? This show is great, best animated show on Sunday nights the last 3 weeks; I hope we get at least two seasons of this.
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I didn't think the pilot was too bad. I had a few laughs at least so I decided to give the second episode a try and holy shit was that bad. I couldn't even make it halfway through.
Normally when a pilot is decent it means I have something to look forward to when the show finds it's groove but this was just garbage.
Normally when a pilot is decent it means I have something to look forward to when the show finds it's groove but this was just garbage.
#24
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I'm enjoying the show, but Allen Gregory needs to move on from crushing on the principal, the joke is stale.
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There are some mean spirited characters that I like and that are funny. Allen Gregory and the dad aren't funny at all.