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PenguinJoe
10-21-11, 12:47 AM
I voted for Bush in 2004, the very first year i could legally vote but i voted for Obama in 2008 cause i was brainwashed by the whole change thing. But as for dictators and terrorist I feel Obama has kept the US was safer than Bush and me having to discard my shampoo on a plane. I know this thread will spark controversy but Bin Laden and Qadiffi being dead is good enough for another four years. I really do wonder what he could do with the economy given a new Senate.

kvrdave
10-21-11, 01:04 AM
I don't see how the one leads to anything with a new Senate given what little he did when he had a supermajority (at least for the economy). I do give Obama kudos for giving the order on Bin Laden, but I think it is a bit disingenuous when you have Obama giving an order based on intel that was gathered under Bush with methods Obama put an end to. If it had always been Obama at the helm, it appears unlikely that we'd have gotten the intel that lead to Bin Laden getting killed. But again, giving the order to actually take him out is not insignificant.

I bought into Hope, Change, Bipartisanship, Transparency, etc. I can't imagine falling for it again from the same guy.

JasonF
10-21-11, 07:35 AM
Obama giving an order based on intel that was gathered under Bush with methods Obama put an end to.

That's really a stretch. To be extremely charitable, one piece of intelligence -- the nom-de-guerre of a courier -- may have come from waterboarding, but we don't even know that for sure.

CRM114
10-21-11, 07:52 AM
C'mon, don't you miss this nonsense? Just a little?

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009/09/dhs-threat1.jpg

Ky-Fi
10-21-11, 08:00 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_y1AaCCgGLDs/TEna7mkL0nI/AAAAAAAAGCU/9I3Tkz-DtuQ/s640/Michael_Dukakis_in_tank.jpg

But seriously, I give Obama credit for the call on Osama. From the accounts I read, it was not an easy call, and it could have had disastrous political consequences if it had turned into another Carter/Iranian hostage rescue debacle.

Libya, not so much, in that he basically just went along with the French and British. Also, while the lack of US troops on the ground is very appealing to a war-weary US public, the downside is that, unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, we are going to have drastically reduced influence on what type of government follows.

wishbone
10-21-11, 08:09 AM
http://i55.tinypic.com/wrbay0.png

http://i51.tinypic.com/333eipf.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/28qygyp.gif

http://i53.tinypic.com/zko97a.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/xm7t6w.jpg

President Obama does look badass but I think the Gipper gets the nod as far as cowboys go.

starman9000
10-21-11, 08:11 AM
There has to be a better looking picture of HW in a cowboy hat than that right?

Philzilla
10-21-11, 08:12 AM
I voted for Bush in 2004, the very first year i could legally vote but i voted for Obama in 2008 cause i was brainwashed by the whole change thing. But as for dictators and terrorist I feel Obama has kept the US was safer than Bush and me having to discard my shampoo on a plane. I know this thread will spark controversy but Bin Laden and Qadiffi being dead is good enough for another four years. I really do wonder what he could do with the economy given a new Senate.

He had both
"It's the economy stupid"
not calling anyone stupid, but the fact of the matter is Americans have short memories, and if the economy still sucks, no one will remember who Bin Laden is.

JasonF
10-21-11, 08:14 AM
Libya, not so much, in that he basically just went along with the French and British.

In that respect, the more Obama tries to take credit for Libya, the more he reminds me of that credit-hogging asshole, FDR.

wishbone
10-21-11, 08:16 AM
There has to be a better looking picture of HW in a cowboy hat than that right?http://i56.tinypic.com/t71n2u.jpg

I guess HW preferred ball caps. :shrug:

CRM114
10-21-11, 08:18 AM
C'mon, HW was a New England blue blood. Cowboy hat. :lol: Speaking of which, is there a more ridiculous piece of headgear in the 21st century?

Ky-Fi
10-21-11, 08:21 AM
In that respect, the more Obama tries to take credit for Libya, the more he reminds me of that credit-hogging asshole, FDR.


I don't believe FDR either said, or acted as if, the US was "leading from behind" in the ETO, and certainly not in the Pacific theater.

JasonF
10-21-11, 08:22 AM
Speaking of which, is there a more ridiculous piece of headgear in the 21st century?

http://utrashed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Beer-Hat-Beer-Helmet-pic-8.jpg

Like most hats, the cowboy hat is perfectly utilitarian and appropriate in its original context.

Philzilla
10-21-11, 08:22 AM
C'mon, HW was a New England blue blood. Cowboy hat. :lol: Speaking of which, is there a more ridiculous piece of headgear in the 21st century?

not if you're a cowboy I guess

Th0r S1mpson
10-21-11, 09:02 AM
Obama has always been more "badass" than Bush. Let's elect Randy Couture instead though.

What we have here are two very gutsy calls by our President on international affairs that he does deserve some credit for (even the "leading from behind" approach, I would say).

Unfortunately, he's a domestic disaster.

CRM114
10-21-11, 09:15 AM
Unfortunately, he's a domestic disaster.

And the hyperbole and melodrama continues. :lol:

Groucho
10-21-11, 09:17 AM
I bought into Hope, Change, Bipartisanship, Transparency, etc.:lol: No you didn't.

Th0r S1mpson
10-21-11, 09:50 AM
And the hyperbole and melodrama continues. :lol:

You're right. Things are just peachey on the home front. La dee da... nothing to see here.

inri222
10-21-11, 10:07 AM
http://radioactiveliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/Barack-Obama-Gangsta-Cap-Trade-Political-Humor.jpg

Ky-Fi
10-21-11, 10:16 AM
http://radioactiveliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/Barack-Obama-Gangsta-Cap-Trade-Political-Humor.jpg

well, actually....


http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/effeminate-obama-bike.jpg

CRM114
10-21-11, 10:18 AM
You're right. Things are just peachey on the home front. La dee da... nothing to see here.

You're right. Obama's disastrous incompetence is why the economy is in the shitter.

Th0r S1mpson
10-21-11, 10:27 AM
You're right. Obama's disastrous incompetence is why the economy is in the shitter.

In his great competence, Obama outlined what would happen to employment levels and economic restoration if we took certain steps. Considering how far he's ended up below his own defined standards, it would be hard to defend his competence on the matter.

RunBandoRun
10-21-11, 10:28 AM
Obama reminds me of Carter. Basically a good guy, with good intentions, but not a leader. A lot of the reason St. Ronald of Reagan got voted in in the first place was that he knew how to tell people what they wanted to hear, rather than trying to wake them up to what they didn't want to face. None of the Republicans that are planning a run in '12 look anything like Reagan, though.

CRM114
10-21-11, 10:32 AM
In his great competence, Obama outlined what would happen to employment levels and economic restoration if we took certain steps. Considering how far he's ended up below his own defined standards, it would be hard to defend his competence on the matter.

Because a President should not speak optimistically. -rolleyes-

People that call his policies a "disaster" (namely the stimulus based on your post) should really look into what would have happened without it. Also, one should look into the Republicans insistence that the stimulus contain an equal measure of tax cuts which have been proven time and time and time again to have virtually no impact on the creation of jobs.

Th0r S1mpson
10-21-11, 10:37 AM
Because a President should not speak optimistically. -rolleyes-

Recovery Summer... Mission Accomplished! :banana:

CRM114
10-21-11, 10:39 AM
If only Obama would get rid of all regulations shackling the business world, we'd see everyone back to work.

:bdance:

Th0r S1mpson
10-21-11, 10:51 AM
That's not much of a defense against Obama's obvious failures.

kvrdave
10-21-11, 10:53 AM
C'mon, HW was a New England blue blood. Cowboy hat. :lol: Speaking of which, is there a more ridiculous piece of headgear in the 21st century?
You don't think there is a reason, other than fashion, that people wear cowboy hats?

:lol: No you didn't.
I did. Voted for him in the WA primary. Didn't vote for McCain in the general. Ended up voting for a 3rd party, but I bought into it. I was quite hopeful.

Recovery Summer... Mission Accomplished! :banana:
Okay, the president should only speak optimistically when CRM likes him anyway.

If only Obama would get rid of all regulations shackling the business world, we'd see everyone back to work.

:bdance:

Are you kidding? We need more regulations to get jobs. Regulations are what free everything up. Regulations are absolutely what have made this country great.

Groucho
10-21-11, 10:54 AM
Voted for him in the WA primary.Sexist. :mad:

crazyronin
10-21-11, 11:24 AM
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/effeminate-obama-bike.jpg

Sweet Sweetback's Badassss Ride.

Ky-Fi
10-21-11, 11:26 AM
:lol:

kvrdave
10-21-11, 11:37 AM
I voted for Bush in 2004, the very first year i could legally vote but i voted for Obama in 2008 cause i was brainwashed by the whole change thing. But as for dictators and terrorist I feel Obama has kept the US was safer than Bush and me having to discard my shampoo on a plane. I know this thread will spark controversy but Bin Laden and Qadiffi being dead is good enough for another four years. I really do wonder what he could do with the economy given a new Senate.

Having thought about this some more....the military success of Bush I did not translate into any success in the economy. And by the time the election came around, it was "the economy, stupid." I can see that happening here as well.

But I did hear that Obama is now drawing down troops in Iraq to ZERO by the end of this year. Dude wants his base back.

eXcentris
10-21-11, 12:15 PM
The NTC rebels got Ghadaffi
Obama got Ghadaffi
The French probably say they got Ghadaffi
The British probably say they got Ghadaffi

But over here, we all know "the pitbull" got Ghadaffi

http://media.mmgdailies.topscms.com/images/71/5f/89a4964e40c9a259761b997bf6f8.jpeg

Lt.-Gen. Charles "Charlie" Bouchard, NATO commander of the international military operation in Libya. A French Canadian :banana:

Th0r S1mpson
10-21-11, 12:26 PM
So you are only proud and excited when someone is killed in captivity due to the actions of a Canadian.

Ky-Fi
10-21-11, 12:36 PM
The NTC rebels got Ghadaffi
Obama got Ghadaffi
The French probably say they got Ghadaffi
The British probably say they got Ghadaffi

But over here, we all know "the pitbull" got Ghadaffi:

Lt.-Gen. Charles "Charlie" Bouchard, NATO commander of the international military operation in Libya. A French Canadian :banana:

Yes, and here's some of their elite special forces at high-level training:

http://images.travelpod.com/users/ranlo/2.1279976439.lumberjack-show-grouse-mtn.jpg

(I'm allowed to make fun of this ethnic group since I'm part French-Canadian.)

Groucho
10-21-11, 12:38 PM
Freedom-Canadian :mad:

CRM114
10-21-11, 12:54 PM
http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/effeminate-obama-bike.jpg

Tucking a polo into jeans and wearing a belt? Black socks and white sneakers? What? Is he a Repub? Well, he is pretty close.

You don't think there is a reason, other than fashion, that people wear cowboy hats?

:lol: To play cowboy?

OldDude
10-21-11, 01:01 PM
The NTC rebels got Ghadaffi
Obama got Ghadaffi
The French probably say they got Ghadaffi
The British probably say they got Ghadaffi

But over here, we all know "the pitbull" got Ghadaffi

http://media.mmgdailies.topscms.com/images/71/5f/89a4964e40c9a259761b997bf6f8.jpeg

Lt.-Gen. Charles "Charlie" Bouchard, NATO commander of the international military operation in Libya. A French Canadian :banana:

There seem to be conflicting stories. The French claim their aircraft got Ghadaffi's 15 vehicle convey, others have claimed a US drone did (if so, it must have been a Reaper; Predators only carry four missiles). The destruction of the convoy (which sounds rather complete) allowed the rebels to catch up, capture, and kill him.

For a man wounded in the legs when captured, it is surprising he died of a severe head wound.

Pharoh
10-21-11, 01:05 PM
Side note, I see that we have tweaked the rules of engagement for drone attacks.

sracer
10-21-11, 01:17 PM
I voted for Bush in 2004, the very first year i could legally vote but i voted for Obama in 2008 cause i was brainwashed by the whole change thing. But as for dictators and terrorist I feel Obama has kept the US was safer than Bush and me having to discard my shampoo on a plane. I know this thread will spark controversy but Bin Laden and Qadiffi being dead is good enough for another four years. I really do wonder what he could do with the economy given a new Senate.
I give credit for President Obama taking Bin Laden's body out of cold storage and staging the raid. Seal Team 6 "takes out" Bin Laden, quickly bury the body at sea, no public photos or examinations, and then Seal Team 6 is killed in a helicopter crash. That's a nice little convenient package right there. I'll be proactive and insert a :tinfoil: here. :)

In contrast, Qadaffi's body is out in the open with plenty of photos.

kvrdave
10-21-11, 02:23 PM
:lol: To play cowboy?

:lol: Moving cows, bucking bales of hay, etc. in the rain makes a cowboy hat incredibly necessary. Also very important in most sun, as a baseball cap won't suffice.

I don't like cowboy hats, personally, but they do have a good purpose. When I do cowboy type stuff, I wear one of these, but only because I prefer the style.
<img src=http://wellingtonequestrian.co.nz/catalog/images/211900.jpg>

eXcentris
10-21-11, 02:43 PM
So you are only proud and excited when someone is killed in captivity due to the actions of a Canadian.

I'm especially proud of the taunting that occured before that.

kvrdave
10-21-11, 02:44 PM
Well, this will put a stop to that for good.

eXcentris
10-21-11, 02:47 PM
<img src=http://wellingtonequestrian.co.nz/catalog/images/211900.jpg>

Holy crap, it makes you invisible! I want one! :)

CRM114
10-21-11, 02:56 PM
:lol: Moving cows, bucking bales of hay, etc. in the rain makes a cowboy hat incredibly necessary. Also very important in most sun, as a baseball cap won't suffice.


They have these new things called "rain coats." :lol:

Th0r S1mpson
10-21-11, 03:13 PM
The fact that some people in this country wear cowboy hats is humorous? Wow, you really do live in a bubble.

kvrdave
10-21-11, 03:56 PM
They have these new things called "rain coats." :lol:

Yeah, those hold up really well with hard manual labor. Even the women don't wear a rain coat for this kind of stuff. And you still need to keep the rain off the head. This is the cowboy version of a rain coat, called a duster.
<img src=http://fashionrevival.com/catalog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/RW107DusterWesternCoatBrn.jpg>

Navinabob
10-21-11, 04:11 PM
Having thought about this some more....the military success of Bush I did not translate into any success in the economy. And by the time the election came around, it was "the economy, stupid." I can see that happening here as well.

But I did hear that Obama is now drawing down troops in Iraq to ZERO by the end of this year. Dude wants his base back.

Well, down to 150 really. And the withdrawal has little to do with election politics as he was actively negotiating to keep troops there but would not waiver on the Iraq condition of no immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts for US troops.

Although I suppose he was already throttling the numbers down as said in a campaign promise... so I guess you can't say he went to there, but I don't think that was his prime concern.

Jason
10-21-11, 04:16 PM
C'mon, don't you miss this nonsense? Just a little?

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2009/09/dhs-threat1.jpg

This one is more useful

http://www.tod-hunter.net/images/200_terror-alert-sesame-street.jpg

kvrdave
10-21-11, 04:32 PM
Zero and 150 mean essentially the same thing in this type of situation. We would be withdrawn.

Mabuse
10-21-11, 04:42 PM
I live in Southern California and when I wear my cowboy hat to do yard work the mailman speaks spanish to me. Cracks me up every time. He doesn't think I'm the home owner, he thinks I'm the help.

eXcentris
10-21-11, 04:51 PM
Does your "cowboy hat" look like this?

http://www.timothyhallinan.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sombrero.jpg

shadowhawk2020
10-21-11, 09:58 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_y1AaCCgGLDs/TEna7mkL0nI/AAAAAAAAGCU/9I3Tkz-DtuQ/s640/Michael_Dukakis_in_tank.jpg

But seriously, I give Obama credit for the call on Osama. From the accounts I read, it was not an easy call, and it could have had disastrous political consequences if it had turned into another Carter/Iranian hostage rescue debacle.

Libya, not so much, in that he basically just went along with the French and British. Also, while the lack of US troops on the ground is very appealing to a war-weary US public, the downside is that, unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, we are going to have drastically reduced influence on what type of government follows.

We participated to the point where some thought it was an illegal action right? I don't care who took the lead, the guy is gone. It cost us 0 American troops lives, a billion (notice I didn't say it with a t) dollars and we were done in less than a year.

If that is following then fuck it, lets do it more often.

kvrdave
10-21-11, 11:53 PM
The ends justify the means. So what I really mean to say is that I approve of actions that look good with 20/20 hindsight. I've said so much. All hail my intellect.

Ky-Fi
10-22-11, 08:14 AM
We participated to the point where some thought it was an illegal action right? I don't care who took the lead, the guy is gone. It cost us 0 American troops lives, a billion (notice I didn't say it with a t) dollars and we were done in less than a year.

If that is following then fuck it, lets do it more often.


As far as that goes, I completely agree---I much prefer Obama's approach to Libya as opposed to Bush's approach to Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm just saying I'm not crediting Obama personally with playing a big role in bringing down Qhaddafi---he just kind of went along with the crowd in this instance. But as far as Obama's general approach of "we're not going to take the lead in being the world's policeman, let the European countries pony up, no US troops on the ground, and no "nation building"---I'm all on board with that. The downside of this approach though (which I'm willing to accept), is that the US will have much, much less influence over the developments in these countries both during combat, and afterwards, if and when the old regime is toppled and a new one arises. My general belief is that many of these countries are culturally unsuited to become liberal democracies that respect civil liberties and rule of law---if they can prove me wrong on their own, great, but I don't want US soldiers killed and billions of US dollars spent on some ridiculous notion of nation building because "they really want to live just like us".

CRM114
10-24-11, 08:36 AM
Yeah, those hold up really well with hard manual labor. Even the women don't wear a rain coat for this kind of stuff. And you still need to keep the rain off the head. This is the cowboy version of a rain coat, called a duster.


Yes, absolutely no one does hard, manual labor in the rain anywhere other than in places where people wear cowboy hats. Go get 'em, Tex. :lol:

Thor, yes, cowboy hats are funny. It's like dudes never got over playing cowboys and indians. There is a reason you don't see people walking around in them (except for a rare breed and maybe in the southwest). They look dumb.

crazyronin
10-24-11, 08:58 AM
Yes, absolutely no one does hard, manual labor in the rain anywhere other than in places where people wear cowboy hats. Go get 'em, Tex. :lol:



I'm certain that someone from bumfuckville, PA would find a sou'wester funny also.

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8866/sowesterhatlarge.jpg

but working on the water in the cold and wet, there's nothing better. Try not to be so provincial.

CRM114
10-24-11, 09:07 AM
That looks perfectly reasonable and something you would wear while working. The problem is that dudes who wear cowboy hats generally wear them as a fashion statement with a matching belt buckle and such. Lets not pretend the only fools walking around in Yosemite Sam gear are dudes working at the cattle ranch.

If I were being provincial, I'd post a steelworker hat. But steelworkers take their hats off after work.

JasonF
10-24-11, 09:10 AM
If cowboy hats are the only hats that get worn as fashion statements, then a lot more people play baseball than I ever realized.

CRM114
10-24-11, 09:19 AM
Right. So don't say people that wear ridiculous hats wear them because they are work hats.

crazyronin
10-24-11, 09:33 AM
I wear a cowboy hat when flyfishing. The brim keeps sun out of my eyes and off my neck, while the upturned sides keep the brim from interfering with my cast. Form follows function, plus it has been some years since I've cared for beefcritters. :shrug:

clappj
10-24-11, 10:20 AM
:lol: Speaking of which, is there a more ridiculous piece of headgear in the 21st century?

Yes.

http://smashingusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Obama-Smoking.jpg

dvdjunkie32
10-24-11, 10:27 AM
I voted for Bush in 2004, the very first year i could legally vote but i voted for Obama in 2008 cause i was brainwashed by the whole change thing. But as for dictators and terrorist I feel Obama has kept the US was safer than Bush and me having to discard my shampoo on a plane. I know this thread will spark controversy but Bin Laden and Qadiffi being dead is good enough for another four years. I really do wonder what he could do with the economy given a new Senate.

More badass? This is the same president that went around the world aplogizing for the US and bowing down literally to other world leaders. Bush made had potrayed the US as arrogant bullies, but Obama made us look like pussies.


Also, let's not forget the numerous planned terrorist attacks that failed completely under Bush's watch. And Qadiffi posed no threat to the US. He even gave up his nuclear plans under Bush.

CRM114
10-24-11, 10:45 AM
So Bush walked around all badass (even if he would clumsily try and leave through the closet door) but Obama was the one that was gracious and badass.

crazyronin
10-24-11, 11:04 AM
So Bush walked around all badass (even if he would clumsily try and leave through the closet door) but Obama was the one that was gracious and badass.

[insert picture of Obama trying to enter the White House through a window here]

Mabuse
10-24-11, 12:00 PM
In defense of cowboy hats and western wear--it's the closest thing we have to a national costume. Most countries have some kind of native clothing. Cowboy/western stuff is the closest thing we've got. I like it.

JasonF
10-24-11, 12:23 PM
In defense of cowboy hats and western wear--it's the closest thing we have to a national costume. Most countries have some kind of native clothing. Cowboy/western stuff is the closest thing we've got. I like it.

http://www3.whig.com/whig/blogs/betweenthelens/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/tea-party-325a.jpg

Th0r S1mpson
10-24-11, 12:24 PM
:lol:

rw2516
10-24-11, 02:20 PM
In defense of cowboy hats and western wear--it's the closest thing we have to a national costume. Most countries have some kind of native clothing. Cowboy/western stuff is the closest thing we've got. I like it.

I vote for buckskins and a coonskin cap.

wm lopez
10-24-11, 03:32 PM
[insert picture of Obama trying to enter the White House through a window here]

How do you expect him to know that if he watches CNN instead of FOXNEWS.

neale
10-24-11, 04:14 PM
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/50262_137065822789_2366264_n.jpg

chowderhead
10-25-11, 01:03 AM
Yeah, those hold up really well with hard manual labor. Even the women don't wear a rain coat for this kind of stuff. And you still need to keep the rain off the head. This is the cowboy version of a rain coat, called a duster.
<img src=http://fashionrevival.com/catalog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/RW107DusterWesternCoatBrn.jpg>

I am voting for this guy. What a bad ass - legless levitating cowboy!

Superboy
10-25-11, 05:41 AM
In defense of cowboy hats and western wear--it's the closest thing we have to a national costume. Most countries have some kind of native clothing. Cowboy/western stuff is the closest thing we've got. I like it.

And most of that was derived from what Native Americans wore.

Tracer Bullet
10-25-11, 08:37 AM
In defense of cowboy hats and western wear--it's the closest thing we have to a national costume. Most countries have some kind of native clothing. Cowboy/western stuff is the closest thing we've got. I like it.

I think dressing like we're all 12 is our national costume.

CRM114
10-25-11, 08:49 AM
In defense of cowboy hats and western wear--it's the closest thing we have to a national costume. Most countries have some kind of native clothing. Cowboy/western stuff is the closest thing we've got. I like it.

EXACTLY! It's a "costume" not something people wear around unless their thing is to dress up like a cowboy. Unless you are freak in Manhattan that is... ;)

http://cdn.mos.totalfilm.com/images/6/6-crazy-film-ratings-decision-battles-01-470-75.jpg

wishbone
10-25-11, 08:57 AM
Jon Voight appears to be keeping warm though... :shrug:

Tracer Bullet
10-25-11, 09:01 AM
EXACTLY! It's a "costume" not something people wear around unless their thing is to dress up like a cowboy. Unless you are freak in Manhattan that is... ;)

I saw a older guy in a cowboy hat one rush hour riding the escalator on the left side down to the 7 train. People asked him to move and he refused.

Cowboys are fucking assholes.

crazyronin
10-25-11, 09:13 AM
I saw a older guy in a cowboy hat one rush hour riding the elevator on the left side down to the 7 train. People asked him to move and he refused.

Are people who wear cowboy hats in New York City required to ride on the right side when taking an elevator? :scratch2:



Cowboys are fucking assholes.

More likely a native New Yorker. It's usually a tie as to who is more offensive; New Yorkers or Massholes.

Tracer Bullet
10-25-11, 09:23 AM
Are people who wear cowboy hats in New York City required to ride on the right side when taking an elevator? :scratch2:

Whoops. Fixed.



More likely a native New Yorker. It's usually a tie as to who is more offensive; New Yorkers or Massholes.

He had a Southern accent.

spainlinx0
10-25-11, 09:39 AM
Are people who wear cowboy hats in New York City required to ride on the right side when taking an elevator? :scratch2:



More likely a native New Yorker. It's usually a tie as to who is more offensive; New Yorkers or Massholes.

Probably meant escalator, and ideally it should operate like highways do. Want to stand still, stay to the right, and let those who walk up take the left side.

However there are usually people who don't follow that rule both on the highway and the escalator.

Th0r S1mpson
10-25-11, 10:24 AM
Stand on the side so people can get by... on an escalator?

Y'all need to learn to slow down and not be in such a hurry all the time.

Tracer Bullet
10-25-11, 10:33 AM
Stand on the side so people can get by... on an escalator?

Y'all need to learn to slow down and not be in such a hurry all the time.

Those escalators are like 5 stories long. You'd want to walk too because it takes like 17 minutes to ride one down or up. People live here and they do want to get the fuck home sometimes.

spainlinx0
10-25-11, 10:34 AM
Stand on the side so people can get by... on an escalator?

Y'all need to learn to slow down and not be in such a hurry all the time.

Maybe, but sometimes you want to get somewhere faster, such as catching a bus that doesn't come again for another hour. We're not at the mall on these escalators. This is public transportation I'm referring to.

wishbone
10-25-11, 10:40 AM
New Yorkers are very exact on how you handle escalators. If you're standing the entire time you get in the line on the right side of the escalator, leaving a clear open isle on the left side so people can walk up faster.http://gothamist.com/2011/09/22/tourists_give_new_yorkers_etiquette.php

http://i53.tinypic.com/2wn70oy.jpg

Good to know if I'm ever in Gotham.

starman9000
10-25-11, 10:41 AM
Isn't that common sense/practice everywhere?

CRM114
10-25-11, 11:02 AM
I thought this was common knowledge. Even at the mall.

And those moving walkways at the airport too. They aren't designed to stand on, they are designed to walk on.

Tracer Bullet
10-25-11, 11:08 AM
And those moving walkways at the airport too. They aren't designed to stand on, they are designed to walk on.

Never underestimate the laziness of the average American. We are a people that built a society around sitting to go get milk a quarter mile away.

shadowhawk2020
10-25-11, 11:13 AM
Never underestimate the laziness of the average American. We are a people that built a society around sitting to go get milk a quarter mile away.

We are making progress! Milk used to be delivered.

JasonF
10-25-11, 12:56 PM
I saw a older guy in a cowboy hat one rush hour riding the escalator on the left side down to the 7 train. People asked him to move and he refused.

Cowboys are fucking assholes.

My impression of cowboys in New York is that they tend to wear little else besides the hat.

JasonF
10-25-11, 12:58 PM
I thought this was common knowledge. Even at the mall.

And those moving walkways at the airport too. They aren't designed to stand on, they are designed to walk on.

Bravo, sir! Come on, people. It's called a moving walkway, not a moving standway.

CRM114
10-25-11, 01:00 PM
Plus when you do walk on them, you feel superhuman. :)

wishbone
10-25-11, 01:24 PM
My impression of cowboys in New York is that they tend to wear little else besides the hat.LSFWhttp://i55.tinypic.com/e5sf8y.jpg

Josh-da-man
10-25-11, 05:19 PM
Cowboys are fucking assholes.

A cowboy hat is a pretty good indicator that the guy wearing it is a total ****.

inri222
10-25-11, 07:38 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OWWO2TUV1oY/TnA11uN1FSI/AAAAAAAAFUU/FQClea1Ssxc/s400/randy-jones.jpg

Th0r S1mpson
10-25-11, 08:46 PM
Those escalators are like 5 stories long. You'd want to walk too because it takes like 17 minutes to ride one down or up.

That sounds a lot different than the escalator here at Target. I'll defer to your expertise on the matter.

The only other place I ride an escalator is at the airport, and there are always people with bags so there isn't any standing to the side to get by in that case.

Artman
10-25-11, 09:49 PM
I haven't read every post, but can anyone imagine Obama firing a gun? He's a more polished public speaker but he has his share of weaknesses.

Lastdaysofrain
10-26-11, 07:24 AM
http://gothamist.com/2011/09/22/tourists_give_new_yorkers_etiquette.php

http://i53.tinypic.com/2wn70oy.jpg

Good to know if I'm ever in Gotham.

I thought this was common escalator etiquette, not just in NYC. In all the cities I've ever lived in, this has been the case.

Mabuse
10-26-11, 12:51 PM
I haven't read every post, but can anyone imagine Obama firing a gun? He's a more polished public speaker but he has his share of weaknesses.

I'll never forget when he went bowling. Comedy gold.

CRM114
10-26-11, 12:54 PM
A sharpshooting bowler, just what I want as our President. :lol:

Th0r S1mpson
10-26-11, 01:31 PM
I would love to see the Republican candidates get together for a televised triathlon:
Shooting, bowling and Risk (the last event would have to be filmed in advance and edited down substantially for dramatic effect).

That would actually be much better than many of these debates.

clappj
10-26-11, 02:58 PM
I'll never forget when he went bowling. Comedy gold.

In his defense, Obama's far better at bowing than bowling.

wishbone
10-26-11, 04:15 PM
Thousands Visit Bowling Alley in Obama White House
By DEVIN DWYER (@devindwyer)
Sept. 1, 2011
ABC News

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At least 230 people came to the White House in May for the express purpose of bowling, according to visitor logs released today. (tedeytan, Flickr)

As a presidential candidate in 2008, Barack Obama (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/03/president-ob-15-3/) vowed to tear out the White House bowling alley and install a basketball court if elected. Now, nearly four years later, the basement bowling alley is still there, and getting plenty of use.

More than 4,100 have been granted access to the White House to visit the presidential lanes in the Executive Office Building since Obama took office, according to visitor logs (http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/visitor-records) released by the administration and analyzed by ABC News.

In May 2011 alone, the most recent month for which records have been released, 230 bowlers were cleared by the Secret Service to try their hands at strikes and spares. The two-lane alley appears to have been used every day of the month except five.

By comparison, only 60 visitors to the White House since 2009 came to use the presidential basketball court, records show. There were no names listed as visitors headed for the official swimming pool.

"The bowling alley is a recreational facility that has been used since the 1950s by Secret Service, blue collar staff and their families to build camaraderie and make them feel part of the House," said Bill Bushong, a staff historian with the White House Historical Association. "It's essentially tradition."

Among the recent registered bowlers are some familiar names, including the families of White House staffers Cecilia Munoz and Nancy-Ann Deparle and FCC chairman Julius Genachowski. Other guests include local Democratic policy analysts, campaign volunteers and staff from foreign embassies.

An October 2009 Washington Times report found some Obama campaign donors were also among those allowed to bowl at the White House, but administration officials at the time dismissed the suggestion of any impropriety.

"Contributing does not guarantee a ticket to the White House, nor does it prohibit the contributor from visiting," said then-deputy White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment for this report.

Several former staffers from the George W. Bush administration said the 10-pin alleys were regularly used between 2001 and 2008 by guests, staff and their families and friends, describing a fun atmosphere where shoes and balls are provided.

"But they're not very glamorous facilities," said presidential historian Richard Norton Smith. "If you didn't know you were in the White House, you probably wouldn't realize it from the space."

Smith said the president has three bowling facilities available for his use. One two-lane alley installed in the basement of the office building adjacent to the West Wing; a single-lane in the basement beneath the North Portico; and a lane at Camp David.

It's unclear how frequently the First Family uses the bowling alleys, though President Obama memorably spent his 48th birthday (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/08/does-obamas-bowling-score-improve-with-age/) using the 10-pin lane at Camp David, where he reportedly bowled a 144 with three strikes and a nine in the last four throws.

On the campaign trail in April 2008, Obama was ribbed for rolling a measly 37 at a Pennsylvania bowling alley (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6172572&page=1).http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obamas-white-house-bowling-alley-thousands-visitors/story?id=14421802In his defense, Obama's far better at bowing than bowling.Given that he has three bowling facilities at his disposal why can't President Obama be a badass on the lanes like Nixon (http://bowlmovementswy.blogspot.com/2009/01/presidential-bowling.html)? :sad:

Mabuse
10-26-11, 04:25 PM
It's unclear how frequently the First Family uses the bowling alleys, though President Obama memorably spent his 48th birthday using the 10-pin lane at Camp David, where he reportedly bowled a 144 with three strikes and a nine in the last four throws.
Yeah right and I heard Kim Jong Il shot a 19 at golf this morning. All hole-in-one's and an eagle. It was his worst round in months.

Th0r S1mpson
10-26-11, 04:25 PM
Dude can't even get rid of a bowling alley and people expect him to fix the economy?

logrus9
10-26-11, 05:48 PM
He likes anything to do with strikes.