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Hokeyboy
01-04-11, 12:08 PM
From his official website:
OSC suffered a mild stroke on Saturday 1 January 2011. He is now back home, retraining his brain so that the fingers of his left hand strike the keys he's aiming for. He will not be responding to most emails because his typing time must be devoted to finishing his fiction. But he is grateful for your good wishes and he promises not to die with any series unfinished.

For the foreseeable future, OSC will not make any public appearances or undertake any travel. Since his speech is unimpaired, he will still conduct radio and recorded interviews.
While any stroke, even a mild one, is still quite serious, it's heartening to know that it could have been much, much worse. OSC is one of my favorite all-time authors, even if some of his personal beliefs I find rather revolting.

Here's hoping for a full and speedy recovery. :up:

Kmical
01-04-11, 12:29 PM
I met him once - back in my retail sales day. Didn't even realize it was him until I swiped his credit card (swiped = "ran through the EDC terminal", not "stole from his wallet").

He came across as pretty damn arrogant. I had read some of his books, but was never a big fan. Even less of one after meeting him ...

Numanoid
01-04-11, 12:51 PM
*cough* Book Talk *cough*

General Zod
01-04-11, 12:53 PM
Who?

islandclaws
01-04-11, 12:55 PM
Who?

This.

DirkUSA
01-04-11, 12:57 PM
Who?

No, he wasn't, oops, isn't part of the Who!

Hokeyboy
01-04-11, 12:57 PM
Illiterate swine! :mad:

I'd put it in Book Talk but I wanted people to see the thread...

Kmical
01-04-11, 01:04 PM
Illiterate swine! :mad:

I'd put it in Book Talk but I wanted people to see the thread...

:up:

I went in Book Talk once. It was dark, scary, and filled with cobwebs. I thought I heard wolves howling in the distance, so I quickly left.

Bronkster
01-04-11, 01:05 PM
Illiterate swine! :mad:

I'd put it in Book Talk but I wanted people to see the thread...

in order to confuse us?

Bandoman
01-04-11, 01:10 PM
From his official website:

While any stroke, even a mild one, is still quite serious, it's heartening to know that it could have been much, much worse. OSC is one of my favorite all-time authors, even if some of his personal beliefs I find rather revolting.

Here's hoping for a full and speedy recovery. :up:


I loved the Ender series, and some of his other work, but since learning of his radical right wing religious views I haven't bothered to read anything else he's written.

Bandoman
01-04-11, 01:49 PM
Holy shit, I'm in book talk.


*runs away*

whotony
01-04-11, 02:22 PM
WTH, how did i get in book talk.

*shudder*

Boba Fett
01-04-11, 02:27 PM
I met him once - back in my retail sales day. Didn't even realize it was him until I swiped his credit card (swiped = "ran through the EDC terminal", not "stole from his wallet").

He came across as pretty damn arrogant. I had read some of his books, but was never a big fan. Even less of one after meeting him ...

He's been accused of being a homophobe and a bigot, with good evidence to support that accusation.

kd5
01-04-11, 05:32 PM
I could give a shit less about his lifestyle, he writes good books. I hope he gets well soon. -kd5-

DonnachaOne
01-04-11, 05:38 PM
Orson Scott Card had a stroke Wow, the DADT repeal must have really shocked him.

mgbfan
01-04-11, 05:53 PM
Guess God decided to punish him. Enjoyed some of his books, but from all I've heard (and not just here) he seems like a really reprehensible human being.

chuckd21
01-04-11, 06:37 PM
I hope that the doctors who worked on him are gay.

Hokeyboy
01-04-11, 07:18 PM
Wow, the DADT repeal must have really shocked him.
:lol:

Lateralus
01-04-11, 09:39 PM
Famous last works: "Don't... let... any... gay... doctors... work... on... me...,"

devilshalo
01-05-11, 02:39 AM
Never read any of the Ender books, but I did like his novelization of Cameron's The Abyss. It really helped me to appreciate and enjoy the movie.

Navinabob
01-05-11, 03:37 AM
Great writer... shitty human.

I'm on the fence about being upset or not.

Supermallet
01-05-11, 03:40 PM
I love many of his books, including all the Ender related ones. Maybe, just maybe, he woke up one day, looked back on every horrible thing he's ever said, and had a stroke.

Spottedfeather
01-05-11, 04:14 PM
I loved the Ender series, and some of his other work, but since learning of his radical right wing religious views I haven't bothered to read anything else he's written.

What views ?

Ginwen
01-05-11, 05:28 PM
I like his books very much, generally avoid reading his personal opinions since when I do they just annoy me.

Hope he's ok, and writes lots more books for me to read, and I'll continue to avoid reading what he personally has to say.

Rockmjd23
01-05-11, 05:50 PM
What views ?
He's a Mormon so he must be a hatemonger, duh.

dugan
01-05-11, 06:01 PM
What views ?

Laws against homosexual behavior should remain on the books, not to be indiscriminately enforced against anyone who happens to be caught violating them, but to be used when necessary to send a clear message that those who flagrantly violate society's regulation of sexual behavior cannot be permitted to remain as acceptable, equal citizens within that society. The goal of the polity is not to put homosexuals in jail. The goal is to discourage people from engaging in homosexual practices in the first place, and, when they nevertheless proceed in their homosexual behavior, to encourage them to do so discreetly, so as not to shake the confidence of the community in the polity's ability to provide rules for safe, stable, dependable marriage and family relationships.

Finding the full editorial should take you one Google search.

Tracer Bullet
01-05-11, 06:06 PM
Too bad he didn't die.

Tracer Bullet
01-05-11, 06:08 PM
He's a Mormon so he must be a hatemonger, duh.

http://cartridgeblowers.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/cartridge-blowers-episode-20-couches-on-top-of-couches-on-top-of-couches/

Rockmjd23
01-05-11, 06:16 PM
Well, then I wasn't being sarcastic :)

Bandoman
01-06-11, 07:08 AM
What views ?

Just peruse this site (http://www.ornery.org/index.html) for awhile.

milo bloom
01-07-11, 02:07 PM
I'd long thought Ender's Game was one of the best books I've ever read, and I started reading some of the sequels, but when I heard about his views I couldn't bring myself to read anymore. I can't even bring myself to buy anymore of them used. It always astounds me when people that can create such rich, imaginative works turn out to have such narrow, restrictive minds.

I don't wish ill on anybody, so I won't say he deserved the stroke, but I'm finding it hard to dredge up much sympathy other than the general dislike of any human suffering.

JAA
01-08-11, 07:55 AM
... It always astounds me when people that can create such rich, imaginative works turn out to have such narrow, restrictive minds...

:thumbsup:

Jason
01-08-11, 11:51 PM
I didn't know it until I was looking him up for something unrelated, but sci-fi author James P. Hogan was similarly nutty. Apparently he was a holocaust denier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Hogan_(writer)

I didn't know he had died in July, either. His material had definitely taken a downward turn in the last several years.

Sorta off topic, but some Card fans might be fans of Hogan as well.

Hokeyboy
01-09-11, 01:16 PM
I didn't know it until I was looking him up for something unrelated, but sci-fi author James P. Hogan was similarly nutty. Apparently he was a holocaust denier.

Sorta off topic, but some Card fans might be fans of Hogan as well.
I dunno. Card is a bigtime supporter of Israel. There might be some overlap on the homosexuality issue though.

dugan
01-09-11, 03:44 PM
I suspect that most fans of both author's fiction are not also fans of their editorials.

kvrdave
01-12-11, 07:00 PM
Fuuuuck, come in here and it is like finding out your grandfather had an affair. I don't want to know a bunch of personal crap, I just want to be entertained.

Ender's Game is absolutely one of the best ever written.

GreenMonkey
01-12-11, 11:52 PM
I'd long thought Ender's Game was one of the best books I've ever read, and I started reading some of the sequels, but when I heard about his views I couldn't bring myself to read anymore. I can't even bring myself to buy anymore of them used. It always astounds me when people that can create such rich, imaginative works turn out to have such narrow, restrictive minds.

I don't wish ill on anybody, so I won't say he deserved the stroke, but I'm finding it hard to dredge up much sympathy other than the general dislike of any human suffering.

I don't like his views either. Doesn't mean he can't be a good writer.


I've come to the decision for things like this that I simply won't financially support people like this directly. Buy the books used or something, so that your money won't be donated to groups you don't like.

A bit late for me, since I only found out about this a few years ago (about 10 books too late).

djmont
01-14-11, 12:14 PM
To hell with that intolerant bastard -- I'm glad he had a stroke!

Oh wait.... :scratch2:

kvrdave
01-14-11, 11:33 PM
:lol:

Seeker
03-29-11, 11:04 PM
I just saw this and hadn't heard.

As with any human being, I wish him well and hope he recovers fully.

I've enjoyed his books, although he has, over time, become more obsessed with being a "writer" than a storyteller - to lesser books, imo.

his opinions, thoughts, and feelings are his own. As a writer myself - it's important to separate yourself from your opinions and then just tell a good story.

Some people do that well, some don't.

But Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead are awesome works, and whether OSC has managed to continue that or not is irrelevant - they stand as testimonies to his life.

dugan
03-31-11, 01:42 PM
I wish he'd continued writing things like these:

http://www.netjeff.com/humor/item.cgi?file=DeveloperBees