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Old 10-19-10, 08:48 AM
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Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10



Synopsis:
Spoiler:
The Grim Bastards have a problem that could jeopardize Samcro's new business arrangements.

This is episode 7 of 13
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

I don't like the synopsis, but often the synopsis cannot be counted on to accurately represent what is going to happen.

In seasons past, this mid-point episode has seemed to me to be where things really start rolling. I am hoping for a similar feeling after tonight.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Originally Posted by Jimmy James
In seasons past, this mid-point episode has seemed to me to be where things really start rolling. I am hoping for a similar feeling after tonight.
Yeah I'm hoping for it to start rolling too. This season hasn't been as strong as last season, IMO.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

"This isnt my fault"
"Well maybe if you didnt eat pussy for a living, then maybe you would have a different group of friends"

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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

I don't think they're going to kill Tara off, but instead just give her a brush with death so she realizes she is in danger by being associated with the Sons. That said, if she died I wouldn't be too upset. She's really an idiot and I'm getting very annoyed with her character. I'm sure if she dies I'll have been much sadder at the deaths of Donna, Half-Sack, and Hale.

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"This isnt my fault"
"Well maybe if you didnt eat pussy for a living, then maybe you would have a different group of friends"

Yeah, that was hilarious. Totally caught me off guard.

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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

It makes absolutely no sense for Gemma to escape when there is some sort of deal in the works. Not to mention what is Gemma really going to do to help them in Ireland? Tig would be so much more valuable on the offensive. Oh well, at least they took Happy.

And Tara is an idiot. She was actually going to say Gemma pulled a gun on her? How is that in any way believable? Nice of the Hospital Administrator to back her up like that. I'm glad she got to punch Tara though, nice little bit of retribution. Too bad it didn't knock any sense whatsoever into Tara.

Seasons 1 and 2 were great, but Season 3 has been pretty mediocre thus far. They're taking way too long to get Abel back and the divide between the Irish is very uninteresting. At this point I want Jimmy to just kill everyone and be done with it because it seems he's the only one with a plan that involves eliminating the mumbling priest and punishing the Sons for their stupidity.

This episode was pretty mediocre, but it started off good. I liked the bathroom scene and the partnership between the Sons, the Mayans, and the Grimm Bastards. That was the highlight of the episode.

I'm also getting tired of the Sons ragging on Uncer for doing his job. He's been in your pocket all this time and he suddenly has a change of heart after seeing someone he respects get their head crushed by a van, and all because of activities he was complicit in. Yeah, how dare he ever have second thoughts about his real duty. Did they forget he's the one who got Gemma out of town in the first place? Not to mention, he didn't even pull the gun first to threaten them. Tig went for the gun first and Uncer pulled out his for defense.

The previews for next week make it look like some stuff will finally start to happen, but who knows at this point. It's not that the show is bad now, it's just not as good as the first and second seasons and I'm frustrated at some of the things being done and the direction the show is headed.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

I got ten bucks the hospital administrator ends up Tig's old lady before the season ends.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

I can't be certain of who was getting on the plane, but I think it's only logical that Tig stays behind in order to explore the issues between him and Kenny Johnson's character as a B story over the next couple of episodes.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Originally Posted by Ropes Pierre
I got ten bucks the hospital administrator ends up Tig's old lady before the season ends.


I think she looks like more of a match for Happy.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

god those scenes with the priest are so mind numbingly aggravating. STOP F'PNG MUMBLING FOR F'S SAKE . even with the volume cranked up i still cant understand his scenes.

and is it just me or are there no captions? i thought id remedy the situation by turning on subs but didnt get any.


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Clay: anything happens to this bird, gemma's gonna stuff you in that cage, make you wear a beak and shit on newspapers.

prospect: that sounds fair.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

The Gemma breakout sequence was stupid as shit. Otherwise I liked this episode. Loved Opie telling Jax (after Jax had sex with the porno chick) "I hope you wrapped your shit up. That was a high traffic zone you were in."

Originally Posted by HN
and is it just me or are there no captions? i thought id remedy the situation by turning on subs but didnt get any.
My CC worked this week, but didn't for the last few eps. I don't know what's up with FX.

Originally Posted by HN
Clay: anything happens to this bird, gemma's gonna stuff you in that cage, make you wear a beak and shit on newspapers.

prospect: that sounds fair.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

I like how Gemma was defending the club life to the hospital administrator. Let's see, the series has only covered a few months time and so far Gemma herself has been gang raped, had her grandson kidnapped and is facing life in prison, two club wives have been murdered, and Tara has already been directly involved with at least three murderers.

There is a real disconnect between the characters on this show and the lifestyle they choose to lead. Even though they appear lucid and sane, there actions are not. I'm going to redress this disconnect personally by imagining every character is addicted to crack/meth or just drunk most of the time.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

I guess at this point the only thing I'm left wondering is how they're going to avoid getting completely slaughtered by Jimmy when they get there. He knows they're coming and where they'll be; it will be absolutely ridiculous if even 3 of them survive, but I know they will.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Is Jimmy looking to kill them?

Can someone explain the Irish situation.

Jimmy and the priest are in a power struggle, right. The priest set up jimmy to make the Sons distrust him because he lied about Abel being in Belfast. The blonde is with the priest, right?

Who was the kid with the bloody eye, the woman and the girl? I missed a lot of the dialog during their scenes due to the accents and not knowing what was going on.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Originally Posted by HN
Clay: anything happens to this bird, gemma's gonna stuff you in that cage, make you wear a beak and shit on newspapers.

prospect: that sounds fair.

That was my favorite line of the episode. That was the same prospect who offered Opie and Jax coffee after Tara stormed out of the clubhouse, and then said to his fellow prospect "what? it's a mood lifter."
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Gemma joining them definitely felt out of place, since Tig would have been more useful and it's going to cause more problems. Won't the club members now be charged with aiding and abetting, likely screwing up the deals Jax had made for her?
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Originally Posted by majorjoe23
Gemma joining them definitely felt out of place, since Tig would have been more useful and it's going to cause more problems. Won't the club members now be charged with aiding and abetting, likely screwing up the deals Jax had made for her?
My guess is that they'll capture Jimmy, bring him back to the United States, deliver him to the DEA, and be celebrated as heroes by all.

Oh, and Gemma's murder charge, the Sons' assault with deadly weapon charges, Gemma escaping from federal custody, the Sons skipping out on bail, everyone fleeing the country when they are wanted fugitives, and whatever else the Sons have been up to...will all be swept under the rug by the glorious Agent Stahl who has the power to magically make things disappear from the court systems.

Okay, so maybe the resolution won't be that neat and tidy, but I do imagine that the Sons will somehow use Jimmy as leverage to get their charges dismissed. After all, the head of an international gun-running terrorist organization is probably more valuable to the government than some small-time gun runners from a no-name town.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

"Secret babies are never a good idea." Found that line unintentionally funny. Gemma's hospital breakout was rather hokey, but overall a good episode. Holding out hope for a strong second half to this season
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

The hospital administrator character is terrible. I cant make sense of why she is doing anything she does. She hates Tara and then gets punched in the face but now she is trying to help her? Because she's a good surgeon?
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

I'm still confused by the whole Irish plotline as well.

The porn girl had a nice backside in the opening scene, though.

Thos.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Originally Posted by kstublen
It makes absolutely no sense for Gemma to escape when there is some sort of deal in the works. Not to mention what is Gemma really going to do to help them in Ireland? Tig would be so much more valuable on the offensive. Oh well, at least they took Happy.

And Tara is an idiot. She was actually going to say Gemma pulled a gun on her? How is that in any way believable? Nice of the Hospital Administrator to back her up like that. I'm glad she got to punch Tara though, nice little bit of retribution. Too bad it didn't knock any sense whatsoever into Tara.

Seasons 1 and 2 were great, but Season 3 has been pretty mediocre thus far. They're taking way too long to get Abel back and the divide between the Irish is very uninteresting. At this point I want Jimmy to just kill everyone and be done with it because it seems he's the only one with a plan that involves eliminating the mumbling priest and punishing the Sons for their stupidity.

This episode was pretty mediocre, but it started off good. I liked the bathroom scene and the partnership between the Sons, the Mayans, and the Grimm Bastards. That was the highlight of the episode.

I'm also getting tired of the Sons ragging on Uncer for doing his job. He's been in your pocket all this time and he suddenly has a change of heart after seeing someone he respects get their head crushed by a van, and all because of activities he was complicit in. Yeah, how dare he ever have second thoughts about his real duty. Did they forget he's the one who got Gemma out of town in the first place? Not to mention, he didn't even pull the gun first to threaten them. Tig went for the gun first and Uncer pulled out his for defense.

The previews for next week make it look like some stuff will finally start to happen, but who knows at this point. It's not that the show is bad now, it's just not as good as the first and second seasons and I'm frustrated at some of the things being done and the direction the show is headed.
I agree with each and every one of these points. Uncer was not a "traitor," considering all he's done; he just appeared to be coming around to the fact that he's actually still a cop.

I REALLY didn't want this find-the-baby thing to eat up the whole season, but it looks like it might, and I have this concern that we'll look back on the big trip to Ireland as a not-good time in an otherwise great series.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

I remember reading some blurb from Kurt Sutter before the season even began about how a lot of it would focus on Abel, the Irish and them actually going to Belfast. I immediately thought "this has the potential to really suck and drag the show down." I am disappointed that my suspicions were correct, at least so far. It's like this season is the show's version of a concept album.
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Originally Posted by kstublen
I'm also getting tired of the Sons ragging on Uncer for doing his job. He's been in your pocket all this time and he suddenly has a change of heart after seeing someone he respects get their head crushed by a van, and all because of activities he was complicit in. Yeah, how dare he ever have second thoughts about his real duty. Did they forget he's the one who got Gemma out of town in the first place? Not to mention, he didn't even pull the gun first to threaten them. Tig went for the gun first and Uncer pulled out his for defense.
Clay, Tig and the other guys don't give a shit about Unser, unless they're trying to extract a favor from him. Gemma seems to care about him, but the club comes first and she's not above using him by playing on his obvious feelings for her.

I need to go back and look at Season 1. I recall Unser being basically on the side of the law, but realizing he had to deal with the Devil sometimes to keep the peace. Somewhere along the line he just became an errand boy. Maybe he's wising up.

Oh, and I loved Tara bitchslapping the porn chick, Ima.

(Ima has a nice ass, though).
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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Originally Posted by uteotw
I agree with each and every one of these points. Uncer was not a "traitor," considering all he's done; he just appeared to be coming around to the fact that he's actually still a cop.
Not only that, 2 episodes back Unser told Clay that he was "going to have to be a cop again for awhile" due to the Sons' failure to live up to their part of the bargain, which was keeping violence out of Charming.

Originally Posted by wmansir
There is a real disconnect between the characters on this show and the lifestyle they choose to lead. Even though they appear lucid and sane, there actions are not. I'm going to redress this disconnect personally by imagining every character is addicted to crack/meth or just drunk most of the time.
No shit. These are, by almost any measuring stick, bad people. Sutter tries to pass this off as some kind of morality play where the Sons have a code and honor, but simply play outside of the system. They're not honorable, or good in any way. The thinly veiled references to Hamlet are also a bit annoying (calling Jax the Prince, etc.). Jax isn't Hamlet, and Gemma isn't Queen Gertrude.

It's still entertaining, though.

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Re: Sons of Anarchy -- "Widening Gyre" -- 10/19/10

Originally Posted by Fist of Doom
Oh, and I loved Tara bitchslapping the porn chick, Ima.
Tara didn't touch anyone this week (she was just on the receiving end from the admin).

Lyla bitch slapped 2 people -- Opie (for the pssy eating comment) and her friend (for sleeping with Jax). Tara did see that second slap as she drove by, though.

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