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Rypro 525
07-10-10, 11:25 PM
from blabbermouth
The 20th-anniversary edition of PANTERA's "Cowboys From Hell" album will be in released on September 14.

Three different versions will be available:

* Two-CD expanded edition,
* Three-CD deluxe edition (includes one unreleased demo track, "The Will To Survive")
* Three-CD deluxe box set (includes one unreleased demo track, "The Will To Survive")

Originally released on July 24, 1990 via Atco Records, "Cowboys From Hell" was produced, engineered and mixed by Terry Date. Just shy of a year after its release on July 16, 1991, the album was certified platinum in the U.S. for sales in excess of a million copies.

PANTERA manager Kimberly Zide Davis, who joined Concrete Management in 1994, and served as vice president of artist management until the organization ceased operations in 2003, was interviewed for Guitar World's January 2010 issue, which paid tribute to late PANTERA/DAMAGEPLAN guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott. During the chat she stated, "[In 2010], we're going to do a 20th-anniversary re-release of 'Cowboys From Hell'. There will be some extra stuff people haven't heard before, deluxe packaging, digital remastering... I wish there was more [previously unreleased material], but that's one thing about PANTERA; they didn't do extra material. What they did is what everybody got. They didn't do throwaway songs. . . We're [also] going to re-release the entire catalog on vinyl. And then in 2012 we'll do the 20th-anniversary deluxe reissue of 'Vulgar Display Of Power', and then the same for 'Far Beyond Driven' in 2014. There are also a few other things we're working on, like trying to come up with a good way to get live shows out to fans, whether through downloads or a web site or some other avenue. And hopefully we'll release a fourth home video. The footage is definitely there. It's just a matter of getting it all together."

The Cow
07-11-10, 01:57 AM
2 CD and 3 CD with no details yet other than the demo track? I'm guessing live stuff.

Personally, I'd like to see more video.

statcat
07-11-10, 03:30 PM
I wish there was more [previously unreleased material], but that's one thing about PANTERA; they didn't do extra material. What they did is what everybody got. They didn't do throwaway songs. . .

There are demos of every song on that album out there I think. I'm pretty sure they're posted on youtube if you want a sample of them.

islandclaws
07-15-10, 08:23 PM
In for the 3 disc! One of my favs of all-time. Def looking forward to hearing the demo track.

johnbook
07-17-10, 02:14 AM
from blabbermouth

and then the same for 'Far Beyond Driven' in 2014. ."


Now were talking, i'll pass on the others...

JeffTheAlpaca
07-18-10, 03:24 AM
I wish they included a dvd with a live concert.

Pantera has not released a good live concert dvd since the songs are cut short on the dvds for practical jokes and interviews.

islandclaws
07-20-10, 05:24 PM
Contents:

Disc One - Ultimate, Deluxe, and Expanded Editions

01. Cowboys From Hell
02. Primal Concrete Sledge
03. Psycho Holiday
04. Heresy
05. Cemetery Gates
06. Domination
07. Shattered
08. Clash With Reality
09. Medicine Man
10. Message In Blood
11. The Sleep
12. The Art Of Shredding

Disc Two - Ultimate, Deluxe, and Expanded Editions

01. Domination (live) *
02. Psycho Holiday (live) *
03. The Art Of Shredding (live) *
04. Cowboys From Hell (live) *
05. Cemetery Gates (live) *
06. Primal Concrete Sledge (live) *
07. Heresy (live) *
08. Domination (live, "Alive And Hostile" EP) †
09. Primal Concrete Sledge (live, "Alive And Hostile" EP) †
10. Cowboys From Hell (live, "Alive And Hostile" EP) †
11. Heresy (live, "Alive And Hostile" EP) †
12. Psycho Holiday (live, "Alive And Hostile" EP) †

Disc Three - Ultimate and Deluxe Editions Only

01. The Will To Survive *
02. Shattered (demo) *
03. Cowboys From Hell (demo) *
04. Heresy (demo) *
05. Cemetery Gates (demo) *
06. Psycho Holiday (demo) *
07. Medicine Man (demo) *
08. Message In Blood (demo) *
09. Domination (demo) *
10. The Sleep (demo) *
11. The Art Of Shredding (demo) *

* Previously unreleased
† Unreleased in the U.S.

**********************************************************

The final details of the Ultimate set will be released later, but it is said to come with all 3 discs in an elaborate box containing ephemera from that period of the band. Needless to say, as long as it stacks up, it'll be mine.

statcat
07-20-10, 06:21 PM
I'm surprised they never re-released their earlier stuff from the 80s. I'm sure they're embarrassed of it and want to hide it but "power metal" is pretty close to cowboys from hell. Release that with a decent cover and I think it would sell.

islandclaws
07-20-10, 07:12 PM
I really wish Vinnie would give those first 4 albums a proper master and put them out. There's some great music in there, and some KILLER solos from Dime. I don't think fans give a shit that it's all glam and KISS-inspired metal. Hell, I actually LOVE the fact that it's so radically different.

One of my favs. Cheesy, rockin' and features one of my favorite Dime solos ever:

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Vlyger
07-21-10, 12:34 AM
I really wish Vinnie would give those first 4 albums a proper master and put them out. There's some great music in there, and some KILLER solos from Dime. I don't think fans give a shit that it's all glam and KISS-inspired metal. Hell, I actually LOVE the fact that it's so radically different.

I'm up for that. :rock:

Rypro 525
07-21-10, 01:15 AM
I'm pretty sure its all Vinny who hates the pre Cowboys stuff. I read somewhere that someone at a Hellyeah show brought up one of the old albums for him to sign, and he refused to do it :lol:

bunkaroo
07-21-10, 08:18 AM
I really wish Vinnie would give those first 4 albums a proper master and put them out. There's some great music in there, and some KILLER solos from Dime. I don't think fans give a shit that it's all glam and KISS-inspired metal. Hell, I actually LOVE the fact that it's so radically different.

One of my favs. Cheesy, rockin' and features one of my favorite Dime solos ever:

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Wow if I had access to that record before Cowboys came out I would have ate it up with a spoon. Definitely better than a lot of stuff I heard in that vein. Clearly they didn't make in that style because of their looks. I gotta go find that stuff.

Rypro 525
08-30-10, 01:48 PM
Well here's the "new" song "the will to survive" that they posted on FB
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islandclaws
08-30-10, 02:47 PM
They were right to cut that off the album, but it's still awesome to hear something "new" from that era.

statcat
08-30-10, 03:34 PM
its weird hearing Anselmo hit high notes like that- he could never sing like that anymore after all the drug abuse. I actually prefer that a lot to their exhorder like groove metal sound that they started to really put together on vulgar display of power.

sniper007
08-30-10, 04:38 PM
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by WMG. That sucks!

Rypro 525
08-30-10, 11:20 PM
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by WMG. That sucks!

you have to go on pantera's facebook page and click 'like' to hear it (yeah i know) Or if you have XM, Liquid Metal played it a few times today

sniper007
08-31-10, 06:49 AM
Hey thanks i have sirius, liquid metal i will watch for it.

Rypro 525
09-13-10, 09:57 PM
BB will have the 3 disc for 19.99 and the 2 disc for 9.99

sniper007
09-13-10, 10:38 PM
Hearing pantera digital remastered, i think i will pick this up.

Rypro 525
09-14-10, 08:34 PM
Well I can def confirm that this indeed is a full remater and not just a simple "lets boost the volume and call it a remaster" The guitars def sound cleaner as does the bass (you can actually hear the notes played instead of just the muddiness of the original cd version. Also the drums def sound much better too, as the symbols are now easier to hear and the snare is as well. If you play the original cd on a decent system, its hard to tell the dif between the snare and double bass drums, as they kind of sound the same.

chino77
09-14-10, 10:12 PM
i thought this cd sounded dated when vulgar display was popular. still sounds just as dated. decent cd but didnt stand the test of time like vulgar did. you could release that cd today and it would kick ass.

bunkaroo
09-21-10, 10:42 PM
I think this remaster sounds hideous. The high frequencies are terribly tinny and harsh. The hi-hat is brutal. I can't remember the last time I turned the treble down.

I'll take the original volume matched to today's levels.

Tarantino
09-22-10, 09:44 AM
http://imgur.com/rnjuL.jpg

statcat
09-22-10, 01:30 PM
I think this remaster sounds hideous. The high frequencies are terribly tinny and harsh. The hi-hat is brutal. I can't remember the last time I turned the treble down.

I'll take the original volume matched to today's levels.

that's what every "remaster" is like these days. The only worthwhile thing on them seems to be the bonus tracks and they amp those up as well. It's like no one understands that just making the waveforms clip or practically clip with zero dynamic range DOES NOT sound good.

I wish more artists who actually give a shit and stand up against this. Thomas Dolby is the only one I can think of that had control of his remasters.

bunkaroo
09-22-10, 03:30 PM
that's what every "remaster" is like these days. The only worthwhile thing on them seems to be the bonus tracks and they amp those up as well. It's like no one understands that just making the waveforms clip or practically clip with zero dynamic range DOES NOT sound good.

I wish more artists who actually give a shit and stand up against this. Thomas Dolby is the only one I can think of that had control of his remasters.

I've found some remasters are well done if they are given the care, but this one is one of the worst I've heard.

sniper007
02-25-12, 11:45 AM
February 25 marked the 20-year anniversary for PANTERA's "Vulgar Display Of Power", a landmark album widely acknowledged as one of metal's most enduring and influential masterworks. Recorded by singer Philip Anselmo, guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott, bassist Rex Brown and drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott, the album has been certified double platinum by the RIAA and features several of the group's most iconic songs including "Walk", "Mouth For War", "This Love" and "Fucking Hostile".

To celebrate, Rhino channels the album's relentless blitzkrieg of musical aggression onto a two-disc Deluxe Edition. The CD includes the original album remastered and "Piss", a recently discovered unreleased track from the recording sessions. The DVD contains an unreleased live performance filmed in Italy in September of 1992 plus the three official music videos from the album.

Due out May 15, 2012 from Rhino, the CD/DVD set will be available at retail outlets, including Pantera.com and Rhino.com, for a suggested list price of $19.98. A version of the release will also be available digitally.

The collection features the debut of "Piss", an incendiary blast of vintage PANTERA from the original recording sessions. It remained lost until Vinnie Paul rediscovered the track while going through the band's vault.

"Some parts of ['Piss'] were taken for other songs, and at the time, it was the only song that did not make the record," Vinnie Paul told Loudwire. "In PANTERA, we never had songs that didn't make the record. If we were going to write 11 songs, then we'd write 11 quality songs. Some bands write 40 songs and then hope they have nine good ones in the bunch. That sucks. Why not concentrate on writing 9 great ones and forget the 31 others? Anyway, this song, at the time, didn't feel right to go on the record, so we put it on the shelf. . . When I started digging through archives, we were happy with it. It is the only undiscovered complete PANTERA track there ever was and it will be part of the package. It should be cool to hear the first new thing from the band since 2000."

Along with the unreleased song, "Vulgar Display Of Power (Deluxe Edition)" also features unreleased video of the quartet performing six songs at the Monsters Of Rock show in Reggio Emilia, Italy on September 12, 1992. The set list draws almost exclusively from "Vulgar" ("This Love", "Rise", "Mouth For War"), but also includes the title track from their previous album, "Cowboys From Hell", and a melding of "Vulgar"'s "Hollow" and "Cowboys"' "Domination", which was a live staple of the band. Video of PANTERA performing live during this era is extremely rare, making the DVD one of the few ways to see them in their prime.

"Vulgar Display Of Power (Deluxe Edition)" track listing:

CD

* "Mouth For War"
* "A New Level"
* "Walk"
* "Fucking Hostile"
* "This Love"
* "Rise"
* "No Good (Attack The Radical)"
* "Live In A Hole"
* "Regular People (Conceit)"
* "By Demons Be Driven"
* "Hollow"
* "Piss" - Previously Unreleased

DVD

* "Mouth For War" - Live In Italy
* "Domination/Hollow" - Live In Italy
* "Rise" - Live In Italy
* "This Love" - Live In Italy
* "Cowboys From Hell" - Live In Italy
* "Mouth For War" - Video
* "This Love" - Video
* "Walk" - Video

"Vulgar Display of Power" (Elektra) was certified double-platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) in 2004, signifying shipments of more than 2,000,000 units in the U.S. since its February 25, 1992 release.

islandclaws
02-25-12, 11:59 AM
The cover is appropriate, since the album is a fucking fist of brutality to the face. Definitely picking this up!