FULL METAL JACKET - question about a joke made
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FULL METAL JACKET - question about a joke made
When Joker and Rafterman are enroute from their pogue jobs to "the shit," via helicopter, there's some nut using a machinegun and wasting vietnamese farmers ("anyone who runs is a VC; anyone who stands still is a well diciplined VC"), and the nut says to Joker that he, Joker, should write about him. Joker asks why, and the nut says he got a lot of confirmed kills. Joker asks if any of them were women and children. The nut says yeah, sometimes. Joker asks how he can kill women and children.
And here comes the joke, from the nut....
"Easy. You just don't lead them so much. Ain't war hell?"
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Now what the hell does that even mean?!
And here comes the joke, from the nut....
"Easy. You just don't lead them so much. Ain't war hell?"
*****
Now what the hell does that even mean?!
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Re: FULL METAL JACKET - question about a joke made
He means you don't fire so far ahead of them when they run. Kinda like how a quarterback throws in front of a receiver so he'll catch up to the ball.
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I'm pretty sure it is not so much a joke as perhaps he is referring to his shooting "technique"? Because as you state Joker asks HOW he can kill women and children. That's my guess/thought at least of what that meant.
Edit: Just beat me to it Chet So yeah, that's what I thought it meant and definitely NOT a joke.
Edit: Just beat me to it Chet So yeah, that's what I thought it meant and definitely NOT a joke.
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I think it was meant as a joke. Joker was asking him a moral question about how he could possibly do something like that, and the gunner turned it into a literal answer, like he was giving instructions on how to do it. It can be taken either way, really. The gunner obviously doesn't have any morals, so he may have thought that Joker was asking him the literal question, and he was just giving the only answer he knew. But again, I've always taken it as the gunner being a smartass and not giving Joker the answer he obviously wanted.
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"I wanted to go to an exotic city, meet exciting people, and kill them. I wanted to be the first kid on my block with a confirmed kill."
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That reminds me of another one. I'm not sure where it's from though. I think a reporter asked a sniper something lime, "what do you feel when you kill an individual?" to which the sniper simply replied, "recoil"
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I do remember enjoying the book a great deal, but always wondered why a lot of names were changed. The book was written by Gustav Hasford, and Hasford also was one of the writers of the screenplay - yet the Senior Drill Instructor's name in the book was changed from Gunnery Sergeant Gerheim to Gunnery Sergeant Hartman; and they also changed Gomer Pyle's name from Leonard Pratt to Leonard Lawrence. Sometimes you just wonder why they change people's names when they're adapting from a book of fiction to a film.
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I do remember enjoying the book a great deal, but always wondered why a lot of names were changed. The book was written by Gustav Hasford, and Hasford also was one of the writers of the screenplay - yet the Senior Drill Instructor's name in the book was changed from Gunnery Sergeant Gerheim to Gunnery Sergeant Hartman; and they also changed Gomer Pyle's name from Leonard Pratt to Leonard Lawrence. Sometimes you just wonder why they change people's names when they're adapting from a book of fiction to a film.
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But I can see how they could make the joke about Lawrence of Arabia, so maybe that's why.
Great film, regardless. Ignored entirely at the 1988 Oscars (for 1987 films). Guess because Platoon stole all the thunder the year before.
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I only wish they had made mention of their boot camp horror while at Vietnam...like, wouldn't Pvt. Joker had been famous upon meeting Animal Mother for the first time? Wouldn't have Animal Mother have heard about how Joker survived the diseased mind of Pvt Pyle?
I heard that they were going to have Animal Mother chop the head off the vietnamese girl after Joker wasted her, and to hold the severed head up by the hair and say, "now this is hard-core." But Stanley Kubrick didn't want "too much violence," as he was famous for it due to A Clockwork Orange. So he scrubbed that scene. Made sense to do so, since it was "Joker's moment," and Animal Mother's actions would have eclipsed it.
I heard that they were going to have Animal Mother chop the head off the vietnamese girl after Joker wasted her, and to hold the severed head up by the hair and say, "now this is hard-core." But Stanley Kubrick didn't want "too much violence," as he was famous for it due to A Clockwork Orange. So he scrubbed that scene. Made sense to do so, since it was "Joker's moment," and Animal Mother's actions would have eclipsed it.
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No...Animal mother and Joker never met each other before that 1st time in the movie. Whatever happens outside of the war probably didn't matter much once they were in it. Why would he hear about it? He's got bigger shit to worry about.