Fire & Ice - being 'remade' by Robert Rodriguez
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This is my favorite cartoon ever. I love Frazetta and Bakshi did a great job. I always dreamt of making the cartoon into a live action flick. Now I like Rodriguez (however thats kinda diminished since Planet terror) but I fear what will happen if this goes down. I would go to Austin and burn it down if he casts shit like Rose McGowen in this
http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=27944
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I always liked the movie. When Blue Underground was releasing it on DVD they had it for sale (list price) at Comic-Con a full month before it's official release date. Ralph was there and he signed my copy. I was pretty jazzed.
I don't have a good feeling about a live-action version. I guess we'll see if it ever comes about.
I don't have a good feeling about a live-action version. I guess we'll see if it ever comes about.
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If a live action doesnt happen, Id be happy with that. Its the casting Im most fearful of.
BTW, I still got my Fire & Ice poster hung and framed!! You kick ass Opus!
BTW, I still got my Fire & Ice poster hung and framed!! You kick ass Opus!
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jus 4 tha hell of it
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Cool trailer, some parts went really good... others really bad. All the Sparta stuff ruined it
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When viewed as a series of Frazetta drawings come to life, it's quite good. While one might have hate for Rose McGowan, in terms of body type she is very close to the kind Frazetta would draw and would fit well. Of course others that match the type would be Salma Hayek and Sofia Vergara, so I would settle for them as well.
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Salma Hayek in a RR film? We'll always be there...*sigh* Love her moments in Desperado and From Dusk till Dawn...
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If only Melyssa Ford could act
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I've always loved the imagery and concept of Fire & Ice more than the actual film. I feel like they really pussed out when it came to making a balls-out, brutal fantasy cartoon. I'd love to see a badass live-action version, and I'd be ok with seeing what Rodriguez has in mind.
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First look concept art.
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/r.../news/?a=43018
Frazetta's work has influenced a Hell of a lot of art and fiction over the years. His early cover paintings for the likes of Heavy Metal magazine and his interpretation of Conan The Barbarian being his most popular. Fire And Ice has already been adapted into an animated feature back in 1983 by Ralph Bakshi, who also gave us the animated version of The Lord Of The Rings.
Here is what Rodriguez has to say at SDCC..
“I want it to look like you just stepped into one of his paintings, where you get to see his world, and how he saw people, anatomy, and composition and color,” Rodriguez told EW. “It will feel like it’s real, but not real. It’ll be his reality. He saw things differently. He painted from his imagination. He didn’t take a photograph and just paint it.”
The above images were created by Rodriguez and his team at Quick Draw Entertainment, which is producing the film. Here’s the official synopsis for the movie, which Rodriguez aims to start in early 2012:
From his stronghold in Ice Peak, the evil Nekron sends forth a wave of deadly glaciers, forcing humanity to retreat to Fire Keep, a kingdom ruled by a generous king. When King Jarol’s daughter Teegra is kidnapped, young warrior Larn teams with the mysterious and legendary Dark Wolf, to rescue the princess and the realm from Nekron’s evil sorcery.
Here is what Rodriguez has to say at SDCC..
“I want it to look like you just stepped into one of his paintings, where you get to see his world, and how he saw people, anatomy, and composition and color,” Rodriguez told EW. “It will feel like it’s real, but not real. It’ll be his reality. He saw things differently. He painted from his imagination. He didn’t take a photograph and just paint it.”
The above images were created by Rodriguez and his team at Quick Draw Entertainment, which is producing the film. Here’s the official synopsis for the movie, which Rodriguez aims to start in early 2012:
From his stronghold in Ice Peak, the evil Nekron sends forth a wave of deadly glaciers, forcing humanity to retreat to Fire Keep, a kingdom ruled by a generous king. When King Jarol’s daughter Teegra is kidnapped, young warrior Larn teams with the mysterious and legendary Dark Wolf, to rescue the princess and the realm from Nekron’s evil sorcery.
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I like RR but I don't trust him to deliver on anything that would resemble that production art. He'd have to work with a budget far bigger than he's used to and not use home brew effects.
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Yeah. SC2 is a shit ton more realistic for him to get together on his usual budgets than what I'd imagine F&I would need.
of course...SC2 has taken forever to get started.
of course...SC2 has taken forever to get started.
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Wait, I thought you guys were talkin' about this film:
Just think what wonders Rodriguez could do with a ski romance.
Just think what wonders Rodriguez could do with a ski romance.
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What's with the z-grade porno still at the bottom of that poster? Was it a double feature?
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Thats not concept art. Its someones tracing over the original images of the cartoon! Ehhh.... I hope this turns out good.
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Yea, great... concept art. You know what else was great concept art? Frazetta's fucking art! We've already got the templates in place, but it's up to RR to make it actually look like that. And I just don't see him being able to pull it off.
Is this post from 2006?
Is this post from 2006?
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EXCLUSIVE: Sony Pictures has acquired a big package that gives the studio a potential franchise. Robert Rodriguez will direct a live-action version of the 1983 animated film Fire And Ice. The film is Rodriguez’s homage to his friend, the late legendary animator Frank Frazetta, on whose works Frazetta and Ralph Bakshi based that original film. It’s a big buy for Sony Pictures at a rough time for that studio, and a deal that reunites it with Rodriguez; Columbia Pictures acquired the Sundance breakout El Mariachi, Rodriguez’s memorable debut. The intention is for Fire And Ice to be the birth of a fantasy adventure franchise, informed by the dreamlike worlds Frazetta poured into his paintings.
n the original film, a small village is destroyed by a surging glacier domain for the evil Ice Lord, Nekron. Sole survivor is a young warrior who vows vengeance, and when Nekron’s subhuman, apelike creatures kidnap a king’s daughter, the warrior becomes determined to track down and free her. Bold Films’ Gary Michael Walters, Matthew Rhodes and Michel Litvak funded development of drafts with Rodriguez, and they’ll be squarely involved. Bold, which has Whiplash and Nightcrawler in the Oscar hunt, plans to enlist studios earlier in the process as the ambition and budgets of its films grow bolder.
For Rodriguez, the project is as much an homage to Frazetta as Sin City was to the graphic artistry of Frank Miller. Frazetta made his mark illustrating works like Conan The Barbarian and Princess Of Mars, and he came to Hollywood and first worked on movie posters that are considered the standard. Fire And Ice was his sole film. Rodriguez was a longtime friend of the late artist who routinely tours Frazetta’s artwork to be sure his legend lives on.
“I’m a lifelong Frazetta fan who was inspired by his work, like so many people,” Rodriguez said. “It was my dream to work with him, and the first thing I did when I got to Hollywood was call him. I got him to do a From Dusk Till Dawn poster for me, and I got to work with him and know him over the years. When I’d visit him at his museum and see his artwork, I tried to figure what would the ultimate Frazetta movie be. I remembered the movie he did, Fire And Ice, back when I was a kid. I thought, ‘I wish they could have made it look more like the paintings, but I guess they’d have had to paint each frame.’ Now, you could do that. You could make it look like you were in his imagination. He didn’t use models, he didn’t use swipes. He painted purely from his imagination, and the characters and the colors made you feel like you were in a dream, and a fully realized and completely imagined world. It was so visual and arresting.”
Rodriguez said that while so many have “borrowed” Frazetta’s signatures (“My kids show me video games and you can just see how many just try to ape his style,” Rodriguez said), the filmmaker saw a way to pay proper homage by using the old Fire aAnd Ice as the template for what’s intended to be multiple installments set in a brutal and primitive world.
“I started developing it independently with Bold Films,” Rodriguez said. “The more we started putting it together, we realized it could be something much bigger and it started attracting A-list talent. I thought, ‘Let’s partner with a studio,’ but which would give it the rocket fuel it deserves? I’d heard Mike De Luca was looking for franchises, and I thought this could fit the bill because of the subject matter and the talent that was interested, people who’d seen the presentation I had and wanted to. Turned out Mike was a big Frazetta fan, and the studio was the perfect place. I’d started out with them with El Mariachi, and I had a long relationship with the studio and it seemed like the perfect rocket fuel for this. We’re actively interviewing to hire A-list writers to do another pass to get this going next year. I’m excited.”
Rodriguez has his highly visual game plan down; the film will be truer to a standard film than Sin City, which Rodriguez created to honor the Miller’s work. “Sin City reflected Miller’s two-dimensional plane and had an abstract very graphic quality to it, while Frazetta’s is this heightened reality, or rather layers of unreality that create a dream like reality you can get lost in, with an adventure film right out of his imagination. If we get the script in the next couple months, by the end of spring or start of summer, we start preproduction.”
Said De Luca: “The incredible art and legacy of Frank Frazetta will finally get its due through Robert’s visionary filmmaking. Everyone at Columbia couldn’t be more excited by Robert’s homecoming and the chance to team up with him and Bold Films on Fire And Ice.” Rodriguez is repped by WME.
n the original film, a small village is destroyed by a surging glacier domain for the evil Ice Lord, Nekron. Sole survivor is a young warrior who vows vengeance, and when Nekron’s subhuman, apelike creatures kidnap a king’s daughter, the warrior becomes determined to track down and free her. Bold Films’ Gary Michael Walters, Matthew Rhodes and Michel Litvak funded development of drafts with Rodriguez, and they’ll be squarely involved. Bold, which has Whiplash and Nightcrawler in the Oscar hunt, plans to enlist studios earlier in the process as the ambition and budgets of its films grow bolder.
For Rodriguez, the project is as much an homage to Frazetta as Sin City was to the graphic artistry of Frank Miller. Frazetta made his mark illustrating works like Conan The Barbarian and Princess Of Mars, and he came to Hollywood and first worked on movie posters that are considered the standard. Fire And Ice was his sole film. Rodriguez was a longtime friend of the late artist who routinely tours Frazetta’s artwork to be sure his legend lives on.
“I’m a lifelong Frazetta fan who was inspired by his work, like so many people,” Rodriguez said. “It was my dream to work with him, and the first thing I did when I got to Hollywood was call him. I got him to do a From Dusk Till Dawn poster for me, and I got to work with him and know him over the years. When I’d visit him at his museum and see his artwork, I tried to figure what would the ultimate Frazetta movie be. I remembered the movie he did, Fire And Ice, back when I was a kid. I thought, ‘I wish they could have made it look more like the paintings, but I guess they’d have had to paint each frame.’ Now, you could do that. You could make it look like you were in his imagination. He didn’t use models, he didn’t use swipes. He painted purely from his imagination, and the characters and the colors made you feel like you were in a dream, and a fully realized and completely imagined world. It was so visual and arresting.”
Rodriguez said that while so many have “borrowed” Frazetta’s signatures (“My kids show me video games and you can just see how many just try to ape his style,” Rodriguez said), the filmmaker saw a way to pay proper homage by using the old Fire aAnd Ice as the template for what’s intended to be multiple installments set in a brutal and primitive world.
“I started developing it independently with Bold Films,” Rodriguez said. “The more we started putting it together, we realized it could be something much bigger and it started attracting A-list talent. I thought, ‘Let’s partner with a studio,’ but which would give it the rocket fuel it deserves? I’d heard Mike De Luca was looking for franchises, and I thought this could fit the bill because of the subject matter and the talent that was interested, people who’d seen the presentation I had and wanted to. Turned out Mike was a big Frazetta fan, and the studio was the perfect place. I’d started out with them with El Mariachi, and I had a long relationship with the studio and it seemed like the perfect rocket fuel for this. We’re actively interviewing to hire A-list writers to do another pass to get this going next year. I’m excited.”
Rodriguez has his highly visual game plan down; the film will be truer to a standard film than Sin City, which Rodriguez created to honor the Miller’s work. “Sin City reflected Miller’s two-dimensional plane and had an abstract very graphic quality to it, while Frazetta’s is this heightened reality, or rather layers of unreality that create a dream like reality you can get lost in, with an adventure film right out of his imagination. If we get the script in the next couple months, by the end of spring or start of summer, we start preproduction.”
Said De Luca: “The incredible art and legacy of Frank Frazetta will finally get its due through Robert’s visionary filmmaking. Everyone at Columbia couldn’t be more excited by Robert’s homecoming and the chance to team up with him and Bold Films on Fire And Ice.” Rodriguez is repped by WME.
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That is a lovely poster.
It is funny to me. My association with his art. I've grown up somehow seeing a lot of his work randomly but could always tell that "that" image had be created by the guy who did "this" image. Wasn't until I was an adult that I cared to search out the name of the creator. For me, there aren't too many artists that I can tell immediately who did what but the bombardment of his imagery over the years really just sunk in that I know it's a certain artist. Frazetta is a guy who really had his art down. He was always like candy for me. Never took stock in his art but i loved seeing it as I passed by. Now it's different but I always found that funny about how I knew his work while never knowing the man behind the art.
It is funny to me. My association with his art. I've grown up somehow seeing a lot of his work randomly but could always tell that "that" image had be created by the guy who did "this" image. Wasn't until I was an adult that I cared to search out the name of the creator. For me, there aren't too many artists that I can tell immediately who did what but the bombardment of his imagery over the years really just sunk in that I know it's a certain artist. Frazetta is a guy who really had his art down. He was always like candy for me. Never took stock in his art but i loved seeing it as I passed by. Now it's different but I always found that funny about how I knew his work while never knowing the man behind the art.
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