"V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
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"V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
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"Heretic's Fork" was written by John Wirth & Angela Russo Otstot and directed by Fred Toye.
John Wirth is a former writer from Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Very weird scheduling tonight with Lost being a repeat and this a new episode.
3 episodes left this season after this one.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
Stick the Heretic's Fork in this show. It is almost DONE.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
I swear the writers must want us to hate that Tyler kid. He naive or whiny in every single scene. And Hobbes is the coolest character on the show.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually really like this show. Maybe it's because I never saw the original?
One thing I think we can all agree on though...Tyler is just godawful. The character is terrible and the actor playing him is just as bad. His meltdown tonight was the absolute worst. I know it's not going to happen, but it would be pretty great if Tyler was the one on the transport in the preview for next week.
Aside from Tyler though, everyone else is great. I love the team of Erica, Father Jack, Hobbes, and Ryan. They all play well off one another; different strengths and different weaknesses. I miss Georgie in the equation, but it's still a great team.
And I agree, Hobbes is definitely the best character.
One thing I think we can all agree on though...Tyler is just godawful. The character is terrible and the actor playing him is just as bad. His meltdown tonight was the absolute worst. I know it's not going to happen, but it would be pretty great if Tyler was the one on the transport in the preview for next week.
Aside from Tyler though, everyone else is great. I love the team of Erica, Father Jack, Hobbes, and Ryan. They all play well off one another; different strengths and different weaknesses. I miss Georgie in the equation, but it's still a great team.
And I agree, Hobbes is definitely the best character.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
Just found out that 3 actors from this show will be at Dragon*Con this year: Joel Gretsch (Father Jack), Morena Baccarin (Anna) and Laura Vandervoort (Lisa). Nice! But, will the show actually be back next season...
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This was one of the better episodes. I have to wonder what kind of budget they are working with. The mothership shots looked as horrible as ever and the V Soldier was pretty unimpressive as well. I got the feeling their FX budget ran out when it came to showing his "V vision".
I'm still frustrated by how constricted the atmosphere is on this show. Maybe that's a budget issue too. Perhaps they can only afford half a dozen non-regular speaking roles an episode and it seems like they just move from set to set without exposing the greater world around the characters.
I'm still frustrated by how constricted the atmosphere is on this show. Maybe that's a budget issue too. Perhaps they can only afford half a dozen non-regular speaking roles an episode and it seems like they just move from set to set without exposing the greater world around the characters.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
I loved how when Ryan told Val he was a Visitor, she said "but I've known you for 10 years". Sorry dude, but if you been here for more than 10 years, you're not visiting.
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I hope we at least find out what the V's plan really is by the end of the season (since it's return is uncertain).
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I normally like the show but there was just some terrible crap in this episode; Elizabeth Mitchell talking about the fifth column inside the FBI building and right in front of the lady getting off the elevator? There wasn't even a doubletake to show that she might have let the cat out the bag. Or how about the fact that the V solider is on the ground, with an axe in his chest, and yet they want to escape as opposed to chopping/shooting him up? You know, he might report back what the resistance looks like or that one is named Hobbes since it was shouted ever so loudly.
Usually I don't nitpick about things that could be obviously explained, but these things go against the whole framework of the underground resistance vs. the Visitors that the show has created for itself. I want the show to be back because there are some great things I can still appreciate about itbut the constant flux of writers and plots is going to hurt any chance it has of being popular.
Usually I don't nitpick about things that could be obviously explained, but these things go against the whole framework of the underground resistance vs. the Visitors that the show has created for itself. I want the show to be back because there are some great things I can still appreciate about itbut the constant flux of writers and plots is going to hurt any chance it has of being popular.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
I didn't enjoy this episode as much as some of you folks it seems but it certainly wasn't all that bad. The kid though, is one of the worst characters I've seen in years. I don't see how he could appeal to anyone, other than 15 year old girls, who probably don't watch this show anyways.
Certainly. We see about 5 visitors on the ship, Anna, her daughter, the 5th column doctor, and Anna's second it seems. Compare that to the cast of the original. Throwing bits like the blue energy is nice but I'd like to see a lot more.
This was one of the better episodes. I have to wonder what kind of budget they are working with. The mothership shots looked as horrible as ever and the V Soldier was pretty unimpressive as well. I got the feeling their FX budget ran out when it came to showing his "V vision".
I'm still frustrated by how constricted the atmosphere is on this show. Maybe that's a budget issue too. Perhaps they can only afford half a dozen non-regular speaking roles an episode and it seems like they just move from set to set without exposing the greater world around the characters.
I'm still frustrated by how constricted the atmosphere is on this show. Maybe that's a budget issue too. Perhaps they can only afford half a dozen non-regular speaking roles an episode and it seems like they just move from set to set without exposing the greater world around the characters.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
Or how about the fact that the V solider is on the ground, with an axe in his chest, and yet they want to escape as opposed to chopping/shooting him up? You know, he might report back what the resistance looks like or that one is named Hobbes since it was shouted ever so loudly.
Or at the very least, make sure the guy who is supposed to be such a bad ass fighter is really dead.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
Who knows... it is just crap. I feel like we're being strung along and will be left hanging when the show doesn't get renewed.
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I know they haven't revealed what their race is called, but it cracked me up when Marcus and Anna were talking about the child and he referred to the baby as half human, half V.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
Failing to shoot that soldier until he was dead was foolish. Standing there while the warrior was taking the axe out of his chest seems out of character for Hobbes. Of all of them, he should have been the one to keep shooting rather than freeze.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
I think he was in shock.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
I was struggling through each episode at the beginning, but these last couple have been quite interesting.
So is Scott Wolf's character really digging into the 5th column for Anna? I couldn't really tell which side of the fence he was on.
So is Scott Wolf's character really digging into the 5th column for Anna? I couldn't really tell which side of the fence he was on.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
Same here. I think it's particularly hard for the fans of the original to stomach. I didn't care for the original so I'm diggin' this version. It's certainly not perfect, and it can use some tweaks here and there, but I am still on board and I hope it comes back.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
Anna's actions regarding the baby suggest she isn't clandestinely responsible for it, as I earlier suspected.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
But to answer your question, around 5M viewers and under 2.0 in the 18-49 demos. 2nd season is looking dicey.
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Re: "V" -- "Heretic's Fork" -- 04/27/10
Overall a decent episode, despite the (many) flaws mentioned here. It's not a bad show; not a good show--somewhere in between for me. I hope it gets renewed if nothing else just to give them some more to work with. We'll see.
I think they're not letting us in on it yet. His going back to Anna was a bit obvious at the end of this episode. They haven't revealed his end game--I think that's still to come and right now they're just playing with us.
I think they're not letting us in on it yet. His going back to Anna was a bit obvious at the end of this episode. They haven't revealed his end game--I think that's still to come and right now they're just playing with us.