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Old 11-16-09, 05:27 AM
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The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09



Synopsis for "Anvil":

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Six becomes an undercover spy for Two. 313 grows fearful of her own special gift. 11-12's secret life is exposed.


Synopsis for "Darling":

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Six meets a familiar woman. A mysterious natural disaster strikes The Village. 147 endures a family tragedy.


AMC has a pretty cool map of The Village here

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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Poor Lucy. #2 could have hired her to love me.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

CRAP once again I miss the premier of a series/mini series I was looking forward to ugh...

Edit-Oh man I've missed 3 episodes now, since I see there was one on 11/15.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

They've shown four of the six episodes so far, with the final two airing tonight (Tuesday, Nov. 17).

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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Looks like they're airing again next week already though.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Originally Posted by aktick
Looks like they're airing again next week already though.
Yep, I've already set my DVR.

Is this the '60s TV show or is this a new version of the show?

Edit: Nevermind, I just saw the picture in the first thread, it's a remake.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Just watched the last 2 eps...I'm definitely "meh" on it. Wasn't a big surprise, what I could understand of it anyways.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

What a craptastic ending. Seriously. I feel cheated by the whole thing, and will never be watching it again. I'm going to watch the original now, to remind myself how it should ne done.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Originally Posted by Sessioner
What a craptastic ending. Seriously. I feel cheated by the whole thing, and will never be watching it again. I'm going to watch the original now, to remind myself how it should ne done.
Any chance you could spoil it for me to save me from having to watch the final episode?
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

What a total mindfuck...

There is a lot of hate for this remake...but I think it is pretty fucking good...it managed to not copy the original, but pay respect to it, while incorporating current day post 9/11 paranoia.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

...let me also add that the ending of the original series pissed off viewers to the point that Patrick went into tv exile for many years...
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Originally Posted by KnightLerxst
What a total mindfuck...

There is a lot of hate for this remake...but I think it is pretty fucking good...it managed to not copy the original, but pay respect to it, while incorporating current day post 9/11 paranoia.
I guess the original's theme (individuality vs. collectivism) resonated more with me. I was hoping the remake would keep Number 6's unshakable sense of self. Instead, Nu6...
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Sold out by willingly becoming Number 1

That would be fine if it were just any other scifi miniseries. But why tackle such an iconic series if you're not going to keep it's iconic theme?
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

I enjoyed it, though the last couple of episodes were the weakest. Loved the ending. I also loved when Two...

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Put the grenade in his mouth and blew himself up.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

I find it funny that people are criticizing this remake as a "mindfuck" on the one hand and praising the original on the other. Christ, did you guys see the original's finale? Now THAT is the Webster definition of a "mindfuck". Those guys were on drugs when they did that ep. Seriously fucked-up on drugs I tell you. Total nonsensical stream-of-consciousness crap; what I imagine would be the product of a William S. Burroughs and David Lynch mind-meld.

Bottom line -- the original's finale was a big "fuck you" to their audience as it answered nothing and was just an exercise in self indulgence by the show's runners.

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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Originally Posted by Flave
I find it funny that people are criticizing this remake as a "mindfuck" on the one hand and praising the original on the other. Christ, did you guys see the original's finale? Now THAT is the Webster definition of a "mindfuck". Those guys were on drugs when they did that ep. Seriously fucked-up on drugs I tell you. Total nonsensical stream-of-consciousness crap; what I imagine would be the product of a William S. Burroughs and David Lynch mind-meld.

Bottom line -- the original's finale was a big "fuck you" to their audience as it answered nothing and was just an exercise in self indulgence by the show's runners.
Well I meant "mindfuck" in a good way. I didn't want the ending to make sense or to be tied up neatly with a bow on top. There is no way that any remake can top the original. I like the fact that there really was no attempt to recreate the original in this version...instead the idea of the village was adapted for today...post 9/11 paranoia...everyone is a suspect...capitalism...I even liked the little touch of
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people owning pigs, a little jab at swine flu paranoia


Yes the original ending was a giant mess that pissed off viewers for years...the ending of this series isn't nearly as confusing...but still a mindfuck...in a good way.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

The makers of this show must have went to Peter Jackson film school.

Excessive use of slow mo, plus the camera moves so slowly making it even more unbearable.

Dialogue tends to drag.

The music is very slow moving as well.

It doesn't help that the show has that new age editing style intended to make everything look ambiguous(sort of like an anime)

It becomes a chore to watch a whole episode because of these things.

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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

I agree those are things which made it hard for me to watch, but I love Peter Jackson's stuff.

Maybe good story and writing can overcome it.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Well count me in the minority, I liked this a lot. The first three hours, for me, were setup and initially I did not like it. I re-watched the first three hours again (AMC replayed them from 6-8) and really started to get a grip on what was going on. The next three hours were a total mindfuck to the Nth degree.

For the sake of disclosure, I have never seen the original...outside of the Simpsons episode. So I am going to get the original series and see what the difference really is. But this was very cool...loved the score, the sets, the actual filming and the two leads. And to quote a good friend of mine, "them bitches is foine....", never hurts to have a little eye candy in a show like this.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Do like me and look on the bright side. No one has to waste 2 hours tonight.

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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Ratings for horrible. One of the episodes got about 900K viewers and 0.3 in the 18-49 demographic.

I still have all 6 episodes saved and will watch when I get a chance.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

I haven't watched the final two episodes and don't feel much incentive to finish it off. I've found it pretty boring overall and don't care much what happens to the characters. 6 is generally unlikable and I don't feel like rooting for him.

Maybe I'll watch the last two when I don't have much to watch on TV.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

I came into this with serious reservations and after seeing what they did in the first episode I wasn't feeling any better, BUT, in the end, I really liked it.

No, it's not really a remake of the original. It borrows some concepts and imagery, but in many ways it is completely different. Once they explain everything (and compared to the original this thing serves it up on a platter) the central concept of individualism vs collectivism (or conformity) is clearly still there. They just really took the concept to a different place, or a whole different plane of existence you might say.

There are some problems. Part of it is due to the slapdash adaptation of elements of the original, plus the pacing is very slow at times. Part of me is itching to rewatch it from the beginning, but another part still recalls that pacing with dread.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

The remake overall was just poorly done. I wish they had called it something else other than The Prisoner. There was not one area where I thought execution was well-done. Acting, writing, and direction were all poor to middling.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

Blah blah blah, unimaginative leftist talking points.

McGoohan is rolling in his grave.
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Re: The Prisoner (AMC miniseries) -- "Anvil" & "Darling" -- 11/16/09

This was not good.

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