similar to the Michael Jackson thread :lol: I don't think it will be as big as some people are making it out to be. I don't think it will do 100 million opening weekend. The question is, will the detractors (and there are many) stay home that weekend, or go for the hell of it, only to bash it on forums like this or on imdb/aicn.
Axeramm
11-06-09, 09:36 PM
I prob wont see this opening weekend but I will see it at some point since i kept the eticket from buying Twilight.
Boba Fett
11-06-09, 09:58 PM
I'll probably go see it during a matinee. I've never been shy to say the first one was far from horrible. The second trailer definitely shows like they have a polished movie. My one hope is the Nicholas Hammond Spider-Man quality SFX don't return.
EdTheRipper
11-06-09, 10:18 PM
The wife really wants to see this so we'll be there opening week at some point. I enjoyed the first one somewhat so I'm kind of looking forward to this one.
edstein
11-06-09, 10:22 PM
Only way I'd got to this movie is with a bag on my head.
JumpCutz
11-06-09, 10:29 PM
Not interested in the slightest.
asianxcore
11-06-09, 11:07 PM
Yes. Excited about seeing the Volturi on screen.
You underestimate how much the Twi-Fans love their Edward. Even though he isn't in the book that much, I read the filmmakers will have him around a little more in the film adaptation.
Sierra Disc
11-06-09, 11:36 PM
Saw the first one and was very much underwhelmed. Sparkly vampires?? No thanks.
Rypro 525
11-07-09, 12:17 AM
Yes. Excited about seeing the Volturi on screen.
You underestimate how much the Twi-Fans love their Edward. Even though he isn't in the book that much, I read the filmmakers will have him around a little more in the film adaptation.
i wonder what the tween girls would think of Pattison once they find out that he plays a gay in some indie movie.
Charlie Goose
11-07-09, 12:41 AM
Haven't see Twilight yet, but it's in my Blockbuster queue. That's probably where New Moon will end up as well. Unless I'm tired of sissyboy vampires.
Giantrobo
11-07-09, 12:41 AM
I do.
I'm a HUGE Werewolf fan so this movie actually has my interest. But I've yet to see the 1st flick so I'll have to see it soon.
Giantrobo
11-07-09, 12:44 AM
Haven't see Twilight yet, but it's in my Blockbuster queue. That's probably where New Moon will end up as well. Unless <b>I'm tired of sissyboy vampires.</b>
Taking the girlfriend to see it, and I have no direct interest in this movie I'd like to see what happens next.
Trevor
11-07-09, 11:40 AM
Went into the first one totally blind, open minded, and expecting to like it.
Worse film of the year for me. No desire to see the sequels.
Blu Man
11-07-09, 11:43 AM
No, I don't like seeing teenage boys take off their shirts for no fucking reason.
porieux
11-07-09, 12:01 PM
Never heard of it. Still haven't.
mhg83
11-07-09, 12:25 PM
No, I don't like seeing teenage boys take off their shirts for no fucking reason.
I'd go see this if it was the teenage girls taking their shirts off :eyebrow:
KillerCannibal
11-07-09, 12:30 PM
First one looked very gay. I'll admit the second appears to have some polish to it; there were some kinda cool shots in the trailer, but I know I couldn't stomach actually watching the damn thing.
No, I don't like seeing teenage boys take off their shirts for no fucking reason.
Victor Salva will be all over this opening weekend!
Kal-El
11-07-09, 12:42 PM
Is "do you care" this year's version of "Anybody else think (insert expected blockbuster movie name here) is doomed?" from a couple of years ago?
To answer the OP, yes I do care, but it's not my most anticipated film of the year.
MR Round
11-07-09, 02:23 PM
I liked the first one but I felt they left out some of the good parts of the book. I'm looking forward to this one though and will definitely see it in the theater
sherm42
11-07-09, 02:59 PM
Very much looking forward to the movie. The film's "detractors" will not have any effect on whether this movie is successful. This is not a health care bill where "detractors" have any ability to make a difference on the popularity of the franchise. It's not a debate going on here.
The books were popular before the movies, and before any "detractors." The first movie only caused the franchise to grow in popularity.
Regardless of people calling the franchise gay, or sparkly, or whatever, New Moon will do very well. I don't know about $100 million the first weekend, but I don't see how failing to make $100 million in three days is failure. I think it will easily clear $100 million by the end of the Thanksgiving weekend.
GoldenJCJ
11-07-09, 03:05 PM
I'll probably go see it during a matinee. I've never been shy to say the first one was far from horrible. The second trailer definitely shows like they have a polished movie. My one hope is the Nicholas Hammond Spider-Man quality SFX don't return.
I never saw the first one so I don't know how bad the SFX were but judging by the horrible look of the wolf in the new trailer I'd say this one won't be any better.
If this one looks like it's MORE polished than the last flick, I've got to check out Twilight out of morbid curiousity to see how truly bad the SFX actually are.
To answer the OP, I have no interest whatsoever.
onebyone
11-07-09, 03:18 PM
I am going to see it, and I don't care how many preteen girls I have to knock down to do it.
Yavin
11-07-09, 04:07 PM
I was never interested in Twilight, but happened to catch the first film a couple weeks back. I found it surprisingly watchable. But I still wouldn't seek out the second film to watch. Will probably catch it on TV whenever it airs.
But my first thought upon realizing New Moon adds werewolves was "Underworld" ...
Ginwen
11-07-09, 05:14 PM
I'll probably watch it sometime, maybe even when it comes out if there's nothing better to see.
I'm sure it'll do quite well, I know plenty of people (all female of course, but none teenage girls) who virtually never go to movies who already have tickets for this.
mcfly
11-07-09, 06:16 PM
Not remotely interested.
Bluelitespecial
11-07-09, 07:05 PM
Most of us who post here are dudes, no I don't think anyone here will really care.
Indy24LA
11-07-09, 07:43 PM
It's a renter for me. The first one was ok, I will admit this one looks a lot better though.
Groucho
11-07-09, 08:16 PM
Let's face it. This movie is targeted for White Audiences so it's no shock that many here aren't interested.
zombeaner
11-07-09, 09:23 PM
Well, I'm not super psyched, but anything that gets my wife to go to a movie with me is a bonus. I'd say I'm looking forward to it as a date opportunity. She'll definitely spring for a babysitter for this.
Dean Kousoulas
11-07-09, 11:51 PM
I only cared enough to click "NO"
Giantrobo
11-07-09, 11:53 PM
Let's face it. This movie is targeted for White Audiences so it's no shock that many here aren't interested.
Racist -ohbfrank-
spammied
11-08-09, 10:48 AM
My kids are so excited to see this. If it wasn't for it being released on a school/work day, I'm sure I'd be taking them to the midnight movies LOL
davidh777
11-08-09, 11:30 AM
Most of us who post here are dudes, no I don't think anyone here will really care.
+1. I never saw the first one, but this board isn't the target audience. It will do well.
coli
11-08-09, 12:21 PM
No.
Draven
11-08-09, 12:23 PM
rotfl at people saying this won't be successful. It'lll blow the doors off people. We are not the target audience for this movie.
And to answer the question, no...I'm not interested. The first book was one of the worst things I've ever read beginning to end (Here's a synopsis to save time: It's rainy. He's pretty. He likes me. He doesn't. I like him. I don't. He's a vampire. It's still rainy.) Never saw the first movie, though eventually it'll show up through Netflix. I need to see if it's worse than the book.
That said, no interest in the next one but at least it looks more interesting than the first.
fumanstan
11-08-09, 01:05 PM
I didn't care for the first one. I might eventually see this on DVD or something though.
This will make a ton of money though.
gotrice487
11-08-09, 01:31 PM
Not at all...I have not seen the first, I have not read the books, basically I could care less
Screw you guys. Go watch GI Joe or Transformers...
Giantrobo
11-08-09, 02:57 PM
rotfl
TheNightFlier
11-08-09, 05:10 PM
Don't care.
newginafets
11-08-09, 05:35 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this
I don't care if most people would call it gay. And i don't get it why most guys really hate this movie. If ever Twilight had not been overtalked or overhyped i'm sure it would not have so many haters.
rexinnih
11-08-09, 05:50 PM
Personally, it wouldn't be yes or no, kind of in the middle. Never read the books. Saw the first movie and thought is was pretty good. Will wait for video for this one.
Draven
11-08-09, 06:12 PM
I don't care if most people would call it gay. And i don't get it why most guys really hate this movie. If ever Twilight had not been overtalked or overhyped i'm sure it would not have so many haters.
Because it's made specifically for girls. I've read the first book and it is nothing but a romance novel with a gothic "twist." I mean my god...the "vampires" in this universe can't go out in the sun not because it would kill them but because it makes them too pretty. If that isn't some female fantasy I don't know what is.
Solid Snake PAC
11-08-09, 06:25 PM
Because it's made specifically for girls. I've read the first book and it is nothing but a romance novel with a gothic "twist." I mean my god...the "vampires" in this universe can't go out in the sun not because it would kill them but because it makes them too pretty. If that isn't some female fantasy I don't know what is.
add in that it's not well acted by the 2 leads. Also....a good chunk of dialogue is very poorly written....and also acted. A lot of logic is not given. Why do they glitter in the sun? I actually was more interested in the Native American characters, I think Jacob was that young guy's name, he was a better actor than the leads. That aspect of the story and the little snippet of their back story was much more interesting.
mdc3000
11-08-09, 06:28 PM
The poll options are terrible... I am looking forward to it, but it's not one of my most anticipated movies of the year. I'll see it sometime during it's run, because I thought the first was harmless and have faith this will be better solely because Catherine Hardwicke isn't involved.
DVD.guy
11-08-09, 06:32 PM
I'll wait for rental as I did for the 1st one
FantasticVSDoom
11-08-09, 06:53 PM
The poll options are terrible... I am looking forward to it, but it's not one of my most anticipated movies of the year. I'll see it sometime during it's run, because I thought the first was harmless and have faith this will be better solely because Catherine Hardwicke isn't involved.
Yeah, Im the same way... The previews arent great to me, but I will be interested to see how the translate the book and carry on from the first one.
newginafets
11-08-09, 06:54 PM
Because it's made specifically for girls. I've read the first book and it is nothing but a romance novel with a gothic "twist." I mean my god...the "vampires" in this universe can't go out in the sun not because it would kill them but because it makes them too pretty. If that isn't some female fantasy I don't know what is.
If it's made for girls then why the hate? That's what i don't understand.
sherm42
11-08-09, 08:10 PM
I think it is because many guys have a fear of being labeled as unmanly or gay if they don't express active disgust with anything geared toward women or girls.
Not being interesting to you is one thing, but the hatred that gets directed toward the franchise by some people seems to be on different level than mere disinterest. Almost like homophobia.
DVDMagic
11-08-09, 08:21 PM
I'm sure the wife and I will go see this on a date night. Watched the first one on DVD and actually didn't think it was that bad. Of course, friends of ours have read the books and say the movie is nothing like the books.
I'm sure it'll be entertaining, but not exactly my "most anticipated movie of the year"
Sonny Corinthos
11-08-09, 08:31 PM
Nope.
DGibFen
11-08-09, 10:11 PM
If Rifftrax (http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/twilight) comes up with another great commentary lampooning the movie, then yes. But only then. That's the only way I watched Twilight.
Rypro 525
11-08-09, 10:27 PM
If Rifftrax (http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/twilight) comes up with another great commentary lampooning the movie, then yes. But only then. That's the only way I watched Twilight.
man, i just watched the sample, that was funny as hell
maxfisher
11-08-09, 11:03 PM
I fucking hate Twilight. I couldn't make it halfway through the first poorly written book and the movie was laughably bad. Now the previews for the sequel are showing the weepy-eyed protagonist trying to kill herself to get the attention of the lover that left her. What a fantastic message for teenage girls. The Sookie Stackhouse novels are just as bad, though I made it through four and a half of them before giving up entirely. Somehow, the first season of True Blood rose above its source material. Anyway, it irritates me to no end to see full grown women wetting their panties over these sad fantasies and teenage girls letting them set their expectations for relationships and romance. It's amazing to me that these things are written by women, as they're borderline misogynistic in how pathetic and needful of male attention their protagonists are. If everything in them were the same, but it was written from a male character's perspective and marketed to teenage boys, women's rights groups would be shitting fire over them.
Anyway, to answer the question, yes, I care about New Moon, but only as part of a phenomenon that irritates the hell out of me when I encounter it. For the inevitable, "you shouldn't criticize people liking something you don't like" responses, spend some time around some Twi-Hards before casting the first stone. You'll likely end up wanting to chuck it at Stephenie Meyers.
Solid Snake PAC
11-09-09, 01:02 AM
wait...kill herself? I haven't seen that in the trailers.
maxfisher
11-09-09, 07:39 AM
wait...kill herself? I haven't seen that in the trailers.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that's what my fiancee and I thought was going on in the trailer when we saw it in front of The Box. It's in the section from around :50 to 1:10.
Looked up the synopsis of the book, and it says:
She finds that the only way she can 'hear' Edward is when she's in life threatening situations, so she starts doing crazy, reckless things. Guess it's not quite as bad as straight up suicide attempts, but it's still a ridiculous and irresponsible message to be putting into the teenage girls these things were originally written for. Hey, if your boyfriend leaves you, do crazy shit to get his attention and show how much you love him! Again, if a male author wrote women this way for an audience of teenage boys, they'd be criticized all to hell.
toddly6666
11-09-09, 10:21 AM
I'm only curious to see it for Dakota Fanning...
Groucho
11-09-09, 10:21 AM
It's no coincidence that the forum where people are saying "I wouldn't see this in a MILLION YEARS 'cuz me and my buds are gonna see [insert generic zombie comedy here]!!!!!!!!" is the same place where we have thread after thread of clueless dudes seeking "dating advice".
Every straight man in America should be excited about this film, and it's not because of the content within.
GizmoDVD
11-10-09, 03:09 PM
If Rifftrax (http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/twilight) comes up with another great commentary lampooning the movie, then yes. But only then. That's the only way I watched Twilight.
Yeah, the Riff was enjoyable.
superdeluxe
11-10-09, 05:52 PM
No one thought the first Twilight would explode.
Twilight is beyond huge for the female/tween/teen group.
I don't really care, but the wife loves twilight as do her friends, thankfully they are all going together on opening night..allowing me to go and watch Blind-side (True football movie about Michael Oher)
superdeluxe
11-10-09, 05:53 PM
I voted yes, because there wasn't a 'sort of' option.
superdeluxe
11-10-09, 06:00 PM
My kids are so excited to see this. If it wasn't for it being released on a school/work day, I'm sure I'd be taking them to the midnight movies LOL
You have the day after thanksgiving off don't you? lol
superdeluxe
11-10-09, 06:05 PM
If it's made for girls then why the hate? That's what i don't understand.
Its called movie snobbery. People who are movie snobs hate when things like Twilight and Wild Hogs make more than critical fare
superdeluxe
11-10-09, 06:10 PM
Every straight man in America should be excited about this film, and it's not because of the content within.
Are you saying it is a great place to pick up chicks? lol, You do know you have to wade through about 80% of non bangable tweens/old ladies etc. But then again, you will be the only single guy there lol. so you got the other 20% to yourself lol.
Solid Snake PAC
11-10-09, 06:12 PM
you know....you don't have to post after yourself all the time...lol
Groucho
11-10-09, 06:15 PM
Are you saying it is a great place to pick up chicks?No, I'm saying it's a great place to take a chick on a date.
GizmoDVD
11-10-09, 06:21 PM
Are you saying it is a great place to pick up chicks? lol, You do know you have to wade through about 80% of non bangable tweens/old ladies etc. But then again, you will be the only single guy there lol. so you got the other 20% to yourself lol.
The 80% may still look hot. Take a virtual snapshot and enjoy later.
KillerCannibal
11-10-09, 06:25 PM
No one thought the first Twilight would explode.
Twilight is beyond huge for the female/tween/teen group.
I don't really care, but the wife loves twilight as do her friends, thankfully they are all going together on opening night..allowing me to go and watch Blind-side (True football movie about Michael Oher)
I voted yes, because there wasn't a 'sort of' option.
You have the day after thanksgiving off don't you? lol
Its called movie snobbery. People who are movie snobs hate when things like Twilight and Wild Hogs make more than critical fare
Are you saying it is a great place to pick up chicks? lol, You do know you have to wade through about 80% of non bangable tweens/old ladies etc. But then again, you will be the only single guy there lol. so you got the other 20% to yourself lol.
Let me introduce you to my friend: multi-quote. He's been anxious to meet you.
Rypro 525
11-10-09, 10:41 PM
Anyone who dares go to the midnight screening should probably bring earplugs.
And with most of their fanbase being underage, i'll pass thank you
superdeluxe
11-10-09, 11:22 PM
No, I'm saying it's a great place to take a chick on a date.
Ahh like Titanic
I think I took 3 or 4 dates to that movie over a 7 month stretch.
Draven
11-10-09, 11:54 PM
Its called movie snobbery. People who are movie snobs hate when things like Twilight and Wild Hogs make more than critical fare
I hate when shitty movies make more money than good movies, yes. Don't see how that makes me a snob, just someone that wishes more people appreciated quality. :)
I hate when shitty movies make more money than good movies, yes. Don't see how that makes me a snob, just someone that wishes more people appreciated quality. :)
I like the books and the first film, but let's be completely honest....these films are made for the fans.
Though the third film will be interesting with David Slade at the helm, the film makes 99% of it's money from all the Twilight fans who will be seeing it the first weekend or at Midnight Openings. The books were a tremendous hit and the films naturally will have to follow suit. Also throw in lots of people who are picking up the books just now and then going to see the films.
I keep forgetting Michael Sheen is in this film. Also as I said before, I'm way excited to see the Volturi on screen. Oh and Ashley Greene :bdance:
stingermck
11-11-09, 09:11 AM
It's no coincidence that the forum where people are saying "I wouldn't see this in a MILLION YEARS 'cuz me and my buds are gonna see [insert generic zombie comedy here]!!!!!!!!" is the same place where we have thread after thread of clueless dudes seeking "dating advice".
Every straight man in America should be excited about this film, and it's not because of the content within.
:lol: awesome.
Groucho
11-11-09, 09:18 AM
Hey, is that Michael Sheen on that poster? Guess he has to eat like the rest of us. :sad:
MinLShaw
11-11-09, 09:25 AM
The wife really wants to see this so we'll be there opening week at some point.
My wife also wants to see this. Fortunately for me, I have a 14 year old cousin who is also excited about it, which means I don't have to go! I'm not a hater, though; I'm just not interested.
asianxcore
11-11-09, 03:16 PM
Hey, is that Michael Sheen on that poster? Guess he has to eat like the rest of us. :sad:
Yup, Michael Sheen is in this.
Lemmy
11-12-09, 09:48 PM
I love good monster movies, and I like vampires and werewolves....but I don't give two shits about the series in any way...it's teen romance stuff wearing a flimsy Halloween mask to look "scary".
superdeluxe
11-13-09, 04:17 PM
This was the scene from our local mall I think on wednesday. Was Robert Pattinson there? Taylor Lautner? No, a couple of bit players from the 2nd movie:
Fandango first released tickets for New Moon on August 31, and Fandango’s chief operating officer Rick Butler predicts, ”New Moon is tracking to be Fandango’s number one top advance ticket-seller of all time.” If this holds true, New Moon will bump Star Wars: Episode III- Revenge of the Sith (2005) from the top spot. New Moon currently holds the number four spot in Fandango’s advanced ticket sale history and has already topped the first movie in the series, Twilight, which holds the fifth spot. Although many of the midnight shows are sold out, Fandango reports that theaters continue to add showtimes.
(CNN) -- They don't call it "Twi Crack" for nothing.
Lisa Hansen, for example, thought she had lost her mind the first time she read "Twilight." Partly because she's 36.
"I was absolutely worried that something was wrong with me," the Utah mother of two said. "I just couldn't put it down -- I was obsessed completely."
superdeluxe
11-16-09, 04:11 PM
Yikes, I just checked Midnight showings for my wife, and 26 out of 28 screens at the 5 movie theaters around me are all sold out.
They are also playing twilight 9pm on thursday, for those that want to watch the first one again.
Suprmallet
11-16-09, 04:19 PM
Man, Michael Sheen must really love vampires and werewolves. Otherwise why would he do Underworld 3 and New Moon? He certainly has the critical cache to do more prestige movies.
superdeluxe
11-16-09, 04:22 PM
You do the blockbuster so you can pay for the indie art films heh.
Suprmallet
11-16-09, 04:57 PM
In what sense of the word is Underworld 3 a blockbuster? :)
superdeluxe
11-16-09, 05:01 PM
In what sense of the word is Underworld 3 a blockbuster? :)
Yeah...not so much...New Moon can make enough for both of them lol.
GizmoDVD
11-17-09, 02:35 PM
Yikes, I just checked Midnight showings for my wife, and 26 out of 28 screens at the 5 movie theaters around me are all sold out.
They are also playing twilight 9pm on thursday, for those that want to watch the first one again.
It's now the #1 most pre-ordered 'ticket' movie...ever. Yes, it beat out TDK, Star Wars 3 etc.
EXCLUSIVE: That's what I'm told by Fandango, even though there are still 5 more days before the Summit Entertainmnent's vampire pic based on Stephenie Meyer's bestselling books has its November 20 release date. New Moon has already leaped over previous record-holders to become the top-selling pre-release title in Fandango's 10-year history. The new record for Fandango's fastest-selling film was set on Saturday night after 8:00 PM.
The Top 5 Advance Ticket-Sellers on Fandango are now as follows:
1. New Moon (2009)
2. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005)
3. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009)
4. The Dark Knight (2008)
5. Twilight (2008)
Patman
11-17-09, 02:44 PM
Somewhere George Lucas is balled up and biting down on his knuckles, crying himself to sleep with this news tidbit. :D
Terrell
11-17-09, 08:16 PM
Guess he has to eat like the rest of us.
I read that he starred in the film for one reason. His 10 year old daughter was a fan, and he thought it would make him cool in her eyes.
Bluelitespecial
11-17-09, 08:31 PM
I think I have lost count the number of times the covers of Entertainment Weekly have been about Twilight including this week. It needs to stop.
KillerCannibal
11-17-09, 08:32 PM
I don't put much stock into the "highest online sales" figures in terms of predicting the weekend box office take. People buying tickets online is a venture that has been growing exponentially for the past few years. I'll bet if you look at the total # of tickets sold online in any given year you'll see it's been increasing each year, so as more people gewt into doing it presale #'s naturally get increase. Plus, teens are more likely to use that method of purchase than most anyone else over the age of 17. So, just because they've gobbled up the most online thus far doesn't mean it'll thrash TDK's record. Not by a long shot.
Groucho
11-17-09, 08:58 PM
I don't want this to break TDK's record, I want it to shatter it. Not because I care about New Moon, I just want to see all the TDK fanboys cry. :lol:
Brack
11-17-09, 10:05 PM
I'm seeing with with my girl opening night. the crowd should be interesting to say the least.
Solid Snake PAC
11-17-09, 10:39 PM
I'm seeing with with my girl opening night. the crowd should be interesting to say the least.
Ditto. I keep thinking my experience on experiencing it with Twilight fans in the theater will somewhat like this. Somewhat disturbing for sure...
:lol: I agree with Kevin, especially about that last bit.
dolphinboy
11-18-09, 03:21 AM
I haven't read most of the other posts, so I apologize if I'm repeating things.
I have not seen the first film and have no desire to do so.
But from what I've heard, it wasn't meant to be the MTV, kind of gay movie that it was and that the mega crowds of people seemed to go crazy for.
I thought that I heard that people were very displeased with the movie the director made and that's why there's a new one.
But with all the success, might they decide to not get more serious and make a "better" second film and get away from the formula that seemed to sell all those tickets?
And I'm almost hoping this film is much more of the same, because if it's good, then I suppose I'll have to watch and own the first one.
I was at the New Moon panel at Comic Con, waiting for the Avatar panel to start, and that happened exactly the way Kevin Smith described it. What he DIDN'T mention was the Q&A session, which was almost exclusively fugly 30-year old women who were fawning over the male actors like they were made of chocolate and ice cream. That was by far the most disturbing part, seeing these woman who would make Roseanne Barr look attractive flat out coming on to these actors. If the male fans of shows with hot chicks acted that way, they'd probably get kicked out by security.
I have not seen the first film and have no desire to do so.
But from what I've heard, it wasn't meant to be the MTV, kind of gay movie that it was and that the mega crowds of people seemed to go crazy for.
I thought that I heard that people were very displeased with the movie the director made and that's why there's a new one.
By "new one" I assume you mean a new director. AFAIK, you're right. Fans liked seeing the book on the big screen, but not necessarily the directorial choices. The director of this one is the same guy who did The Golden Compass, so they're definitely playing it safe the second time around. However, given how awful The Golden Compass was, it seems like the producers have thrown the fans a life preserver lined with lead.
But with all the success, might they decide to not get more serious and make a "better" second film and get away from the formula that seemed to sell all those tickets?
The formula isn't with the director. The formula is in the writing, which comes from the books, and revolves around girls getting all doe-eyed about dudes who are vampires and werewolves and will do anything to be with them. As long as there are young men with their shirts off, and mousy girls who will throw themselves off cliffs to be with them, this series will make money hand over fist.
Edit: A friend of mine unapologetically loves the Twilight series, and when I asked her why, she explained it like this--The series promotes the fantasy that homely, mousy, or otherwise less than super hot girls will find true, hot, passionate, burning love that will transcend time. It's glorified Harlequin romance novels for girls who will never get looked at by the kind of guys who are depicted in them.
superdeluxe
11-18-09, 10:50 AM
Edit: A friend of mine unapologetically loves the Twilight series, and when I asked her why, she explained it like this--The series promotes the fantasy that homely, mousy, or otherwise less than super hot girls will find true, hot, passionate, burning love that will transcend time. It's glorified Harlequin romance novels for girls who will never get looked at by the kind of guys who are depicted in them.
lol thats harsh, many of these tween girls might grow up and look hot!
Duh Vuh Duh
11-18-09, 04:58 PM
Ditto. I keep thinking my experience on experiencing it with Twilight fans in the theater will somewhat like this. Somewhat disturbing for sure...
I was at the New Moon panel at Comic Con, waiting for the Avatar panel to start, and that happened exactly the way Kevin Smith described it. What he DIDN'T mention was the Q&A session, which was almost exclusively fugly 30-year old women who were fawning over the male actors like they were made of chocolate and ice cream. That was by far the most disturbing part, seeing these woman who would make Roseanne Barr look attractive flat out coming on to these actors. If the male fans of shows with hot chicks acted that way, they'd probably get kicked out by security.
Not sure what part Kevin is specifically talking about, but I searched just for new moon and comic con out of curiosity and damn, I couldn't even get through the first minute of the introductions. Disturbing to say the least. -ohbfrank-
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Suprmallet
11-18-09, 06:16 PM
lol thats harsh, many of these tween girls might grow up and look hot!
She was the one who said it, not me. But I'd say that the Twilight series speaks more to uglier girls than most fantasy books/movies.
GizmoDVD
11-18-09, 06:36 PM
She was the one who said it, not me. But I'd say that the Twilight series speaks more to uglier girls than most fantasy books/movies.
So were not seeing this opening night? I thought we were going to be wearing matching T-Shirts?
http://www.ioffer.com/img/item/122/988/603/2zPHHRnuWRtAOzs.jpg
I'm on Team Jacob!!!11
wm lopez
11-18-09, 07:03 PM
I think I have lost count the number of times the covers of Entertainment Weekly have been about Twilight including this week. It needs to stop.
They need to do something to sell that useless magazine.
Hokeyboy
11-18-09, 08:33 PM
They need to do something to sell that useless magazine.
One Kirk Cameron nude centerfold and you'd change your tune like Beverly Sills. ;)
Suprmallet
11-18-09, 09:23 PM
So were not seeing this opening night? I thought we were going to be wearing matching T-Shirts?
http://www.ioffer.com/img/item/122/988/603/2zPHHRnuWRtAOzs.jpg
I'm on Team Jacob!!!11
I'm almost willing to do this just to call your bluff.
GizmoDVD
11-18-09, 09:39 PM
I'm almost willing to do this just to call your bluff.
If you care to drive down to Simi Valley (or Thousand Oaks - Muvico is an excellent new Theater) I will be wearing this shirt (or something equally as bad New Moon-wise) if you do. We can hold hands and take pictures. And lightly dust each others lips with Werewolf kisses...
Brack
11-18-09, 09:49 PM
The director of this one is the same guy who did The Golden Compass, so they're definitely playing it safe the second time around. However, given how awful The Golden Compass was, it seems like the producers have thrown the fans a life preserver lined with lead.
been on hbo a lot lately. I still don't get what was awful about it.
Solid Snake PAC
11-18-09, 09:51 PM
A friend of mine unapologetically loves the Twilight series, and when I asked her why, she explained it like this--The series promotes the fantasy that homely, mousy, or otherwise less than super hot girls will find true, hot, passionate, burning love that will transcend time. It's glorified Harlequin romance novels for girls who will never get looked at by the kind of guys who are depicted in them.
so...what would the male version of that be? Action films in general? Or...what?
Also...no offense. But I think guys have better taste in crap material than what crap girls like. That's what it seems like.
Hokeyboy
11-18-09, 09:53 PM
so...what would the male version of that be? Action films in general? Or...what?
Judd Apatow / Kevin Smith movies.
superdeluxe
11-18-09, 10:01 PM
been on hbo a lot lately. I still don't get what was awful about it.
Yeah, I enjoyed the Golden Compass as well. Thankfully it did well enough overseas to get the 2nd movie Ihope.
Brack
11-18-09, 10:01 PM
Judd Apatow / Kevin Smith movies.
I'd add Adam Sandler movies.
Brack
11-18-09, 10:05 PM
Yeah, I enjoyed the Golden Compass as well. Thankfully it did well enough overseas to get the 2nd movie Ihope.
I don't think there's any plans for the rest of the series. Here's a good article about Weitz's thoughts, pretty much saying how he wasn't allowed to make the film as faithful as he wanted to, and how New Moon is more like the book (which is a better book than Twilight IMO).
Yeah, I enjoyed the Golden Compass as well. Thankfully it did well enough overseas to get the 2nd movie Ihope.
Given that Golden Compass sank New Line, I highly doubt you'll eber see the other two released.
MrSmearkase
11-18-09, 10:14 PM
Given that Golden Compass sank New Line, I highly doubt you'll eber see the other two released.
Agreed.
Good for Weitz, though, finding another high-profile project.
Suprmallet
11-18-09, 10:33 PM
Now he's saying he wants to quit after one other project he's been developing. After Golden Compass and New Moon, I'd want to quit film as well.
Brack
11-18-09, 10:36 PM
You've seen New Moon?
Solid Snake PAC
11-18-09, 10:46 PM
Not sure what part Kevin is specifically talking about, but I searched just for new moon and comic con out of curiosity and damn, I couldn't even get through the first minute of the introductions. Disturbing to say the least. -ohbfrank-
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jesus...that last video is unbearable. I can't hear the director talk. Well I can barely hear him...
GizmoDVD
11-18-09, 10:52 PM
Backing out now Supr?
Blu Man
11-18-09, 11:12 PM
Now he's saying he wants to quit after one other project he's been developing. After Golden Compass and New Moon, I'd want to quit film as well.
Who let's this guy near a camera?
You've seen New Moon?
No, but he's straight. I think....
Not that theirs anything wrong with being gay, it's just straight men really have no business seeing this unless their wife/girlfriend makes them. In which case the straight male would be, what’s the phrase, "whipped".
superdeluxe
11-18-09, 11:53 PM
Given that Golden Compass sank New Line, I highly doubt you'll eber see the other two released.
Yeah but if it made more than it cost...not sure what the issue is..?
superdeluxe
11-18-09, 11:57 PM
Not that theirs anything wrong with being gay, it's just straight men really have no business seeing this unless their wife/girlfriend makes them. In which case the straight male would be, what’s the phrase, "whipped".
Sometimes you take one for the team, doesn't make you whipped man. When you get married, you will understand.
Groucho
11-19-09, 12:03 AM
A straight dude taking his wife/girlfriend to this movie is hardly "whipped", he's savvy because she's going to be "in the mood" by the time the credits roll. :thumbsup:
Brack
11-19-09, 12:17 AM
Who let's this guy near a camera?
No, but he's straight. I think....
Not that theirs anything wrong with being gay, it's just straight men really have no business seeing this unless their wife/girlfriend makes them. In which case the straight male would be, what’s the phrase, "whipped".
I just find it funny he's judged its quality as if he'd seen it, that's all.
GizmoDVD
11-19-09, 12:46 AM
A straight dude taking his wife/girlfriend to this movie is hardly "whipped", he's savvy because she's going to be "in the mood" by the time the credits roll. :thumbsup:
I plan on role playing with my GF. I'm gonna be a Werewolf...rarrr
Suprmallet
11-19-09, 01:05 AM
Backing out now Supr?
:lol: I'm not driving out to Simi Valley, unless you've got Invader Zim Vol. 1-3. ;)
The characters in this movie should be arrested for loitering with intent to moan. Never have teenagers been in greater need of a jump-start. Granted some of them are more than 100 years old, but still: their charisma is by Madame Tussaud.
Rypro 525
11-19-09, 03:31 AM
man that was a great read. It won't deflate the box office at all though.
I loved these 2 lines
As I've already explained in my review of the first film, The Twilight Saga is an extended metaphor for teen chastity, in which the punishment for being deflowered I will leave your imagination.
The movie includes beauteous fields filled with potted flowers apparently buried hours before by the grounds crew, and nobody not clued in on the plot. Since they know it all and we know all, sitting through this experience is like driving a pickup in low gear though a sullen sea of Brylcreem.
superdeluxe
11-19-09, 09:26 AM
Some local insanity.
Apparently this is the theater that Bella and some other guy go to watch a movie in new moon:
I voted "No". I really wanted to like the Twilight Saga...I loved the Potter stuff (even the films) and I was hoping for something new to take over. I read the first book and saw the first film...and thought both were extremely underwhelming.
My entertainment dollars and time are stretched as it is these days (16 month old at home)...so this will not make the cut. Plus, my wife has absolutely zero interest in the series so there is no way this will get her "in the mood" anyway...
I generally like Ebert's reviews, but man, talk about lazy. His negative reviews are usually his best stuff, but here he's not even trying.
GizmoDVD
11-19-09, 10:30 AM
:lol: I'm not driving out to Simi Valley, unless you've got Invader Zim Vol. 1-3. ;)
So, for the record, it is you who is backing out. I called your bluff.
And the sad thing, my girlfriend was dying to see me wear one of those shirts.
superdeluxe
11-19-09, 04:53 PM
Midnight Showings at Regal Theaters Across Washington State:
Regal Tall Firs 10: 4/4, 3:00 am still open
Regal Lakewood 15: 7/8, 2/2 DP, 3am still open
Regal Auburn 17: 9/9, 2:30 am still open
Regal South Hill 6: 6/6
Regal Longston: 1/2 DP
Regal Martin 16: 13/13, 0/2 DLP, 3 am still open
Regal the Landing Stadium 14: 10/11
Regal Thornton Place 14: 9/11
Regal Issaquah 9: 2/4
Regal South Sound: 4/4, 3 am showing
Regal Bella Bottega: 3/8
Regal Poulsbo 10: 6/7, 3 am showing
Regal Crossroads: 1/3
Regal Alderwood: 4/4, 2:35 am showing
Regal Cascade 16: 7/8
Regal Marysville 14: 9/10
Regal Cinema 99: 8/10
Regal City Center 12: 3/3
Regal Bellis Fair 6: 5/5, 3 am showing
Regal Everett Stadium 16: 14/14, 0/2 DLP
Regal Three Rivers Mall 5: 5/5, 3 am showing
Regal Columbia Mall 8: 7/7
Regal Triangle 4: 4/4
Regal Silverdale 4: 3/3
Regal Northtown Mall 12: 4/4
Regal SPokane Valley 12: 11/11
So Regal Theaters have 176 midnight showings of New Moon in Washington State, of those 176, 158 are sold out.
Groucho
11-19-09, 05:08 PM
Please keep us posting on other showings in your local area!
The Bus
11-19-09, 05:38 PM
No one thought the first Twilight would explode.
:wave: I did.
The Bus
11-19-09, 05:39 PM
When you get a girlfriend, you will understand.
Fixed.
spammied
11-19-09, 06:08 PM
Since midnight movie isnt an option for us since its a school nite...LOL I got the kids and I tix for the 9:30 am showing on Sat morning. Of course the theater employee recommended showing up about 8-8:30ish cuz of the line...
It's def. something the kids are into, so to me, it will be well worth it.
GizmoDVD
11-19-09, 06:23 PM
I got a call to go see it 3am for free...but I have to wake up for work at 5:30am...pass.
superdeluxe
11-19-09, 06:33 PM
I got a call to go see it 3am for free...but I have to wake up for work at 5:30am...pass.
Yeah saving 10 bucks is not worth 2 hours of sleep on a work night.
A friend of ours is making it a Twilight experience for her daughter and friend. First they are going to go watch the 9pm showing of twilight, then the midnight premier, then tomorrow they are going to go to forks/la push etc etc and do all the touristy things there.
That's a dedicated momma right there lol.
Matthew Chmiel
11-20-09, 04:21 AM
I got a call to go see it 3am for free...but I have to wake up for work at 5:30am...pass.
I got a call to attend a private screening of it at 8pm last minute. Even if I didn't have a ticket to Cafe Tacuba (which was amazing) I would've passed.
Didn't read the books and have no desire to see the movies. As someone who spent nearly five years double majoring in English and Film, I could give two shits about that hack Meyer and her half-ass attempt at writing.
Brack
11-20-09, 04:49 AM
I just came back from the midnight showing. Me and my girl got there super early, which was good since the theater room we saw it in was starting to get full already. There was an hour long delay for the film to start, so we all got free passes when we left the theater.
Anyway, this movie was really good. Much, much better than the first Twilight movie. Plenty of good one-liners, and the romantic stuff didn't seem overwrought. The action scenes were well done. It was also very faithful to the book, but cut the boring parts. Weitz had a good handle on how to film this book to give it a level of urgency when needed. For a movie that was over 2 hours, it flew by very quickly.
Daytripper
11-20-09, 09:42 AM
I just came back from the midnight showing. Me and my girl got there super early, which was good since the theater room we say it in was starting to get full already. There was an hour long delay for the film to start, so we all got free passes when we left theater.
Anyway, this movie was really good. Much, much better than the first Twilight movie. Plenty of good one-liners, and the romantic stuff didn't seem overwrought. The action scenes were well done. It was also very faithful to the book, but cut the boring parts. Weitz had a good handle on how to film this book to give it a level of urgency when needed. For a movie that was over 2 hours, it flew by very quickly.
Brack, refresh my drink. Did you like "The Golden Compass" too? I did. Which is the main reason I'm going to see "New Moon". Can't wait to see what Weitz did with the franchise.
Brack
11-20-09, 02:53 PM
I really liked The Golden Compass, even though I know they inexplicably changed much of the story (according to my sister who has read all those books). Just keep in mind the kind of movie this is, and I think you can appreciate what Weitz has done with the material. There are no scenes that felt unnecessary. It's too bad they couldn't have gotten Weitz for the first movie.
Daytripper
11-20-09, 02:56 PM
I really liked The Golden Compass, even though I know they inexplicably changed much of the story (according to my sister who has read all those books). Just keep in mind the kind of movie this is, and I think you can appreciate what Weitz has done with the material. There are no scenes that felt unnecessary. It's too bad they couldn't have gotten Weitz for the first movie.
Is he doing the 3rd one? If not, any word on who?
Brack
11-20-09, 03:08 PM
Is he doing the 3rd one? If not, any word on who?
David Slade (Hard Candy, 30 Days of Night) directed the 3rd movie. They wrapped filming at the end of October. Eclipse is due June 30, 2010. They are churning these babies out.
Daytripper
11-20-09, 03:16 PM
David Slade (Hard Candy, 30 Days of Night) directed the 3rd movie. They wrapped filming at the end of October. Eclipse is due June 10, 2010. They are churning these babies out.
As much as I read movie sites and news, how did I not know this? I thought they were aiming for a November release for each film. And didn't even know the 3rd one was done.
Brack
11-20-09, 05:22 PM
As much as I read movie sites and news, how did I not know this? I thought they were aiming for a November release for each film. And didn't even know the 3rd one was done.
It seems a lot of sites downplay "girly" movie news.
newginafets
11-20-09, 09:14 PM
This is movie is way underrated. Come on 4.3 in imdb.com? I believe many people who haven't watched New Moon and never will just put 1, it's just unfair. After watching it last night, i was so overwhelmed that it turned out good! 5x better than Twilight. Thanks to Weitz.
GizmoDVD
11-20-09, 09:20 PM
All Harry Potter nerds.
Brack
11-20-09, 09:50 PM
This is movie is way underrated. Come on 4.3 in imdb.com? I believe many people who haven't watched New Moon and never will just put 1, it's just unfair. After watching it last night, i was so overwhelmed that it turned out good! 5x better than Twilight. Thanks to Weitz.
I remember something similar happening to the Sex and the City movie when it came out. Considering most of the audiences of both films are women who are prone to liking the movies, I'd be more than surprised to find all these 1's not to from guys who've never seen either film.
The O
11-20-09, 10:56 PM
Eclipse is due June 10, 2010. They are churning these babies out.
June 30th, 2010.
superdeluxe
11-20-09, 11:04 PM
All Harry Potter nerds.
or TDK fans heh.
Suprmallet
11-21-09, 12:19 AM
Since when is a movie's IMDB score an indicator of quality?
For example, I'd say someone has been rating New Moon waaay too highly. But at least it's not higher than Jurassic Park.
Brack
11-21-09, 12:23 AM
June 30th, 2010.
I stand corrected. thanks
Rypro 525
11-21-09, 12:38 AM
just looked at the statistics, more men have rated New Moon then women :lol: granted, they're average is 3.4 to their 6.7
Suprmallet
11-21-09, 01:28 AM
They break down the gender of people who do ratings on IMDB?
Rypro 525
11-21-09, 02:05 AM
yeah, when you register, you select your gender, age ect, thats how they help with the polls
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1259571/ratings
Patman
11-21-09, 11:04 AM
If one were to compare "New Moon" to "Twilight", I'd have to say "Twilight" is an emotional masterpiece if only for the interpersonal directorial touched imbued upon by Catherine Hardwicke. On the other hand, with Chris Weitz helming "New Moon", Weitz lacks subtlety in most of the scenes where characters actually talk to one another, and is hampered badly by the lack of acting chops by Taylor Lautner (Jacob) because any conversation Jacob has with Bella (Kristin Stewart) is agonizingly amatuerish and unconvincing, while practically any scene between Bella and Edward is haltingly stagnant in the way an unmovable mountain meets an irresistible force, it makes for uncompelling cinema.
If you've seen any of the marketing of the film, or seen the trailer, then what I'm about to reveal isn't all that new to you, so I'll go on that premise, so be forewarned if you've totally in the dark about the film. In a nutshell, Edward decides to leave Bella in order to protect her from his clan, although it's the last thing Bella wants. Bella gets depressed for months on end. Eventually she has an evening out with sarcastic Jessica, finds that the only thing that is helping her get out of her funk is adrenaline-inducing activities. From there, she seeks out Jacob for a project they can work on, and their relationship develops slowly until Jacob breaks off contact, and later on, it's revealed that Jacob is a werewolf, being one of the few in his family to bear the werewolf gene, along with others of his heritage.
Having 2 suitors turn their backs on Bella is almost too much for her to take, but Bella does find out about Jacob's secret, and then there's the rest of the movie that is long on drawn out chase scenes through the woods with Victoria in the mix, Bella's insecurities, Alice's visions, Edward's hole in his romantic heart through the forced separation he imposed. The last part of the film is just badly written and staged with a groan-inducing last line uttered by Edward.
With a running time of 130 minutes, director Weitz has turned it into a film that feels like it's 240 minutes long, I thought it was the equivalent of sitting down and watching molasses try to roll itself uphill. I think if you sped up the movie just a tad, run it at 1.5x speed, it might have helped the pacing, but the camerawork was odd, the progression of scenes edited was abrupt and full of bad choices, the cinematography was too clean compared to the grittier, grainier, colder tone in "Twilight".
I give it 1 star, or a grade of D.
kristina
11-21-09, 09:13 PM
looking fwd to seeing this movie with a friend for her birthday. so yes I do care about the Twilight saga.
Daytripper
11-21-09, 10:03 PM
Saw it this morning. Still way too much preening and posturing (especially Pattinson), like the first film. Which was terrible. This is definitely better in terms of production. But that's about it. Weitz did the best he could with the material he had to work with. I did like the last half of the film better than the first. But this series is just not for me. I don't think I can sit through another one.
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