Sorry for the late start on this month's wrestling thread. I am in the middle of a move and have no internet currently at the house. I'm not even watching wrestling anymore so...eh, you know....here's the PPV's for November:
TNA Turning Point - November 15, 2009
WWE Survivor Series - November 22, 2009
Rypro 525
11-03-09, 08:55 PM
Hulk Hogan Says He Taught Vince The Business, Running TNA & More (Interview)
By Michael Bluth
Nov 3, 2009 - 4:29:03 PM
Hulk Hogan spoke to Minnesota's City Pages newspaper this week and made some interesting things to say about his relationship with Vince McMahon in the 1980s, how much power he'll have in TNA and what it meant to announce his partnership with TNA at Madison Square Garden. To read the whole interview, visit Citypages.com.
Hogan claims that Vince "didn't really understand the business" after buying the company from from his father, Vince McMahon, Sr. "I moved in next door to him in Connecticut and taught him all about lifting weights and riding motorcycles and partying like a mad man; and then I taught him about the wrestling business and making money," Hogan said. "And now I'm doing that again with TNA Wrestling."
Hogan also talked himself up as the savior for TNA. He said the company agreed that he could have a "Vince McMahon role" calling the shots for TNA. Hogan says he will be "unofficially" running the promotion and will have the same if not more influence than he had during his run in WCW.
"All I told these guys was that they should give me a chance. If they didn't like what I was doing they can tell me to take a hike, but let me have the chance to come in and take a shot at it," Hogan said. "Let the fans and the other wrestlers take a look and decide for themselves what they're in to and I'm confident that I will get this thing rockin'."
Hogan is already crediting himself with generating the most buzz for TNA in its history and explains the significance of announcing his partnership with TNA Wrestling at Madison Square Garden in New York City.
"The proof is already out there. In the course of a few days we've got more buzz going for TNA Wrestling then it's had in seven years. For example, no other wrestling organization had ever been able to get into Madison Square Garden in New York for like, 100 years, because Vince owns it and his family owned it before him. So I came in and was like, 'Watch this.; And we did a press conference at Madison Square Garden."
Spicollidriver1
11-04-09, 01:16 PM
Sounds a little dilusional and also anyone from MN will laugh when they see who interviewed him since that is a free paper a good free paper but still free and mainly used for local music and restaurant reviews
fujishig
11-04-09, 01:25 PM
Buh-bye TNA... so long X-division. You haven't been much the past couple of years, but you were looking up... ah well.
UncleGramps
11-04-09, 01:33 PM
Can TNA support the massive weight of Hogan's ego? :lol:
bmp5524
11-04-09, 04:23 PM
anyone going to the ROH in Detroit on the 13th??
show looks absolutely stacked..........even with the loss of KENTA (replaced with Nakajima) i cant wait Row 2 Section B!!!!!
ROH World Title Match
Austin Aries defends vs. Davey Richards
Tag Team Special Attraction
Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. The Young Bucks
First Time Ever Dream Match
Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. Kenny Omega
First Time In ROH
Tyler Black vs. Claudio Castagnoli
Special Challenge Match
Roderick Strong vs. Chris Hero
DthRdrX
11-04-09, 04:47 PM
I'm happy though ... because somewhere Russo is throwing a fit.
If Hogan really brings Bischoff in to help with things then I know the X-Division will improve. Bischoff has admited in the past that a lot of WCW Nitro's early success was because of the crusierweight division.
Dr. DVD
11-04-09, 05:36 PM
That statement from Hogan totally contradicts statements he made on Bubba the Love Sponge last week, where he talks about how Vince McMahon taught him a lot about how to market the wrestling business. That man seems to change his story about how things went in WWF on a weekly basis.
d2cheer
11-04-09, 08:24 PM
-ohbfrank-
Brent L
11-04-09, 08:28 PM
On F4W Bryan Alvarez talked about going to a book store where Hogan was doing a signing and heard him talking to different fans getting autographed. He said he asked most, if not every single one of the fans if they watched TNA, and if they didn't he promoted the heck out of it saying they need to start watching. He said that big changes are coming and things are about to pick up. He went on to say that he is also bringing in a number of his friends, and the main name he kept dropping was RVD.
This doesn't technically mean much since Hogan said it, but still, at least he is really starting to mention TNA more and more now.
Dr. DVD
11-04-09, 10:41 PM
Hogan's bringing friends? Does that mean we can look forward to the return of Ed "Brutus the Barber Beefcake" Leslie in some form or another?
Brent L
11-04-09, 11:06 PM
From the latest Observer:
There is talk of those close to Hogan that he’s claiming part of the deal for him coming in is that Impact will go live on Monday nights from 8-10 p.m. starting on January 4th, the first weekend after football season ends. As noted, Brian Diamond of Spike has denied this is the case, saying their goal is to build up Thursdays. Those in TNA who were aware of Hogan coming in ahead of time, were not aware of any change in television time. However, those being pitched to come in by the Hogan side, have been pitched on the idea of the recreation of the Monday Night Wars. While it has not been said, within TNA, the belief is Hogan will come in the first of the year. In theory, such a situation would be the best thing possible for the business. Jeff Jarrett, when he was running TNA, his goal was to get on Mondays from the start.
Sammy Banderas
11-04-09, 11:32 PM
Hogan's bringing friends? Does that mean we can look forward to the return of Ed "Brutus the Barber Beefcake" Leslie in some form or another?
I'm hoping the Zodiac makes his long-awaited return to the ring! "Yes ... no ... yes ... no!!!":lol:
Dr. DVD
11-05-09, 11:42 AM
I'm hoping the Zodiac makes his long-awaited return to the ring! "Yes ... no ... yes ... no!!!":lol:
Wonder if Zeus will come back as well?
Axeramm
11-05-09, 02:18 PM
Cant wait for the Nasty Boys vs MCMG or maybe vs Bubba Ray and D-Von. (Not sure if that is spelled correctly so grammar police please excuse me)
BullGooseLoony
11-05-09, 04:12 PM
Nasty Boys vs. Team 3D is a bit of a dream match, but it'd also be a trainwreck.
Dr. DVD
11-05-09, 05:31 PM
If you want to see a PPV that clicks on all levels, try to track down a copy of ECW's Heat Wave '98. It's got great in-ring action and its main event is a tag match that manages to tie in a lot of different angles in a way that makes good sense.
Luds
11-05-09, 06:58 PM
Well TNA needs a shakeup. If they keep the X division high on their list, and start using the talent properly which is not always done anywhere, they have a shot to go some place. Maybe Bishoff can return and have a 2nd go at it, and this time he'll be somewhat educated on doing things.
Hell, WCW in 96-99 was pretty damn good.
DthRdrX
11-05-09, 09:05 PM
Did Carter really just open Impact by admiting their show is in the toilet?
BravesMG
11-05-09, 11:19 PM
Did Carter really just open Impact by admiting their show is in the toilet?I don't think that's what she meant but it sure as hell came off that way. If she was more nervous she would have had piss running down her leg. And to think, that's the edited and best version of the whole speech.
I'm just starting this on DVR, but I'm really getting tired of the AJ/Daniels/Joe threesome soap opera. All three of these guys range from below average to decent on promos, and they're building a feud around them doing dramatic monologues? I've loved TNA recently, but for GOD'S SAKE, PUT THESE DAMN GUYS IN THE RING. This seems like an angle they would need to run for a Nash/Foley/Hogan storyline, not three of their best wrestlers that get can absolutely kill it in the ring.
Dr. DVD
11-06-09, 11:43 AM
Did Carter really just open Impact by admiting their show is in the toilet?
Is there anywhere to see this video? Sounds amusing.
Brent L
11-06-09, 11:46 AM
Here is the video, I don't think she admitted the show was in the toilet, just that changes are coming. I'm not so sure about them airing it on TV, but what the heck, what she said is true so I guess it's not the worst thing in the world to just flat out tell the fans. Besides, it isn't going to cause the current fans to just not watch anymore or anything like that. I'm not sure if anything can do that...
The talent meeting that aired during the opening of TNA Impact was legit. TNA filmed TNA President Dixie Carter addressing the wrestlers and inserted it into the show, I am assuming, as a way to build towards Hulk Hogan's debut. The speech and the comments made by Carter were her own and not something scripted for her by the creative team. It was 100% a legitimate speech from the owner of the company to her employees and not something put together as a work specifically for company storylines.
Carter was addressing the fact that the company has made a number of changes in recent weeks, which has led to some frustration on the talent side when it comes to how some are being used creatively. There have been some blow-ups, so I believe this was Carter's way of stamping out the fire.
BullGooseLoony
11-06-09, 12:29 PM
I honestly didn't take it as an admission of the show's poor quality, just a very utilitarian statement that the company is undergoin major changes, unlike WWE, which just makes them and doesn't feel compelled to outright say it.
Dr. DVD
11-06-09, 02:04 PM
Dixie's kind of cute. I think I mentioned before she used to be at TNA Asylum a lot when the brand first started in Nashville, though she did little more than watch the show and let random redneck guys come up and try to flirt with her. She's an Ole Miss/Old Southern Money woman who really has no business trying to run a wrestling company, but I doubt she is as hands on as Vince McMahon.
EDIT: she looked nervous as hell in that video. She obviously doesn't feel comfortable in front of a camera or with public speaking.
DthRdrX
11-06-09, 04:33 PM
I honestly didn't take it as an admission of the show's poor quality, just a very utilitarian statement that the company is undergoin major changes, unlike WWE, which just makes them and doesn't feel compelled to outright say it.
Admiting to mistakes is one thing, but part of that segment was her putting the roster on notice for the backstage bull. What business does that have on Impact, much less right after they tried to get fans thinking Hogan is the second coming? It's like they are promoting Hogan as a move to the major leagues for TNA, yet mentioning the talent is upset with him coming in and the direction of the company. She should just pick a direction to go in and dump the talent that she feels is causing problems. Problem solved.
I can't even image how bad some of the young talent in TNA feels at this point. Many of them have been dumped on the last couple years and were just literally told 'tough shit' on national TV.
If anything, I think I saw WCW all over again last night. The kicker was when Scott Steiner mentioned that he's one of the only ones glad Hogan is coming back, and they he would straighten out the young punks and hopefully join the Main Event Mafia.
Brent L
11-06-09, 04:38 PM
I think the deal with Steiner was the first step of setting up that the Hogan in TNA, both character and real person, has learned from the mistakes of the past and he really is coming in to try to improve things.
I don't care what anyone else says, I hope to God I get Ric Flair in TNA as well. Screw it, I loved his retirement and yes it was the perfect way to officially end his career, but I miss the guy on my TV each and every week acting like a nut. I've seen it all my life and I'm not ready to let that go yet. :lol:
DthRdrX
11-06-09, 04:59 PM
I think the deal with Steiner was the first step of setting up that the Hogan in TNA, both character and real person, has learned from the mistakes of the past and he really is coming in to try to improve things.
You really think Scott steiner has learned from WCW mistakes? ;)
Just an interesting story, but my friend and I met Scott Steiner back in 1998. We said hello to him and he gave us the finger and said FU ....
Concerning Shane McMahon leaving WWE, PWI is reporting that Vince and Shane were discussing something in Stamford, they had a disagreement, and it led to a full-fledged argument, which ultimately led to Shane telling Vince that he had had enough of him and was leaving the company.
Okay, we get it. Hogan and Flair will wrestle in Australia. I honestly see this building to both of them having a match in TNA (only on a PPV, as they aren't really capable of doing that many dates).
DthRdrX
11-06-09, 11:03 PM
Actually what I meant was that Hogan and Flair have been working up to both of them showing up in TNA. The video hit within the last week.
DthRdrX
11-06-09, 11:06 PM
Concerning Shane McMahon leaving WWE, PWI is reporting that Vince and Shane were discussing something in Stamford, they had a disagreement, and it led to a full-fledged argument, which ultimately led to Shane telling Vince that he had had enough of him and was leaving the company.
That puts Vince's recent comments into perspective then.
Some people perceive this to be a family business, but I do not," said McMahon.
Maybe Shane stood up against the weekly shit they've been throwing on tv.
DaveWadding
11-07-09, 12:36 AM
not to derail the thread, but:
I'M GOING TO WRESTLEMANIA, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and Chris Jericho shook my hand!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BullGooseLoony
11-07-09, 09:20 AM
Admiting to mistakes is one thing, but part of that segment was her putting the roster on notice for the backstage bull. What business does that have on Impact, much less right after they tried to get fans thinking Hogan is the second coming? It's like they are promoting Hogan as a move to the major leagues for TNA, yet mentioning the talent is upset with him coming in and the direction of the company. She should just pick a direction to go in and dump the talent that she feels is causing problems. Problem solved.
I can't even image how bad some of the young talent in TNA feels at this point. Many of them have been dumped on the last couple years and were just literally told 'tough shit' on national TV.
If anything, I think I saw WCW all over again last night. The kicker was when Scott Steiner mentioned that he's one of the only ones glad Hogan is coming back, and they he would straighten out the young punks and hopefully join the Main Event Mafia. Agreed. The big issue is that it was completely unneccessary. Why did TNA need to show us Dixie Carter giving a speech to the roster, obviously about Hogan's arrival? Why? What is the point? Is it Vince Russon trying to be an "insider" about everything? There's no point. Because all it does is pull the curtain open on a business that is predicated on having the curtain closed. As you say, it shows two different direction, and even more confusion on TNA's part. Pick a direction, and then stick with it.
Dr. DVD
11-07-09, 09:38 AM
That puts Vince's recent comments into perspective then.
Maybe Shane stood up against the weekly shit they've been throwing on tv.
You know, it might actually be interesting if Vince gives total control of WWE to Stephanie . That way we would have two wrestling federations run by women competing against each other. That could actually make for a brutal business showdown if they actively go after each other (only in business, not in the ring, wouldn't want to see that!).
raven56706
11-07-09, 11:44 AM
Agreed. The big issue is that it was completely unneccessary. Why did TNA need to show us Dixie Carter giving a speech to the roster, obviously about Hogan's arrival? Why? What is the point? Is it Vince Russon trying to be an "insider" about everything? There's no point. Because all it does is pull the curtain open on a business that is predicated on having the curtain closed. As you say, it shows two different direction, and even more confusion on TNA's part. Pick a direction, and then stick with it.
give it a chance...
DthRdrX
11-07-09, 02:02 PM
Latest Update:
Regarding Vince Russo’s future in TNA, everyone close to the situation is saying that nothing has been decided yet by the company. Russo is under the impression that nothing has changed regarding his status since he feels he’s been doing his job, but there are a number of people who feel his position is in jeopardy. Those same people also feel the Hogan and Bischoff team will establish their own infrastructure and put their own creative people in place, and the duo will be in TNA for the long haul.
If Russo goes, the assumption is that Ed Ferarra will also be out of a job. The only remaining member of the current creative staff would be Matt Conway, who is the youngest member of the staff and is someone Dixie Carter sees as a bright young mind.
Kevin Sullivan has been mentioned as a potential replacement for Vince Russo, as well as Kevin Nash although Nash says he has no interest in the role. Nash is currently working to solidify his acting career for once he finishes wrestling.
Rumors that Hogan and Bischoff negotiated directly with Dixie’s father, Bob Carter, who owns TNA’s parent company Panda Energy, are false. Multiple sources closes to the situation say Dixie was in charge of negotiations, which lasted approximately five months.
DthRdrX
11-07-09, 02:13 PM
- WWE Issued press release today announcing that comedian Dennis Miller will host a special 3-hour edition of WWE RAW on December 14th. The 3-hour broadcast will take place from the American Bank Center in Corpus Christi, TX and will feature the 2009 WWE Slammy Awards. 2009 Slammy Award categories will include: WWE Superstar of the Year, WWE Match of the Year, and WWE Diva of the Year.
- A WWE memo sent out to various pay-per-view providers reveals that the company will be eliminating one of its June pay-per-view events in 2010, bringing the annual total down to 13. While this does seem like a step in the right direction, WWE will be making up for that lost pay-per-view revenue by increasing the suggested retail price of its other events (excluding WrestleMania), by $5.00, to $44.95. According to the memo, this will be the first price increase for non-WrestleMania events since 2006. The suggested retail price for WrestleMania will remain $54.95.
On the PPVs: one step forward, two steps back.
boredsilly
11-08-09, 09:50 AM
WOW! I didn't realize PPVs were $40 bucks. That is insane. Not to mention, from what I hear, the shows usually aren't excellent. For that kind of money, I want 5 star matches up and down the card, crazy memorable angles, and some more shit every month. I can excuse the price of Wreslemania since that is once a year, and even the Royal Rumble and Summerslam costing a bit more, but the rest of the PPVs should be $20 tops.
I'm going to RAW on the 30th in Baltimore. I'm really excited. I've only ever been to one wrestling event, a house show back in the 98 or so, and that was pretty cool -- but I'm sure the Raw will have a better atmosphere (if not as good a roster). Cross your fingers for me that I get a good guest host.
Rypro 525
11-08-09, 09:54 AM
WOW! I didn't realize PPVs were $40 bucks. That is insane. Not to mention, from what I hear, the shows usually aren't excellent. For that kind of money, I want 5 star matches up and down the card, crazy memorable angles, and some more shit every month. I can excuse the price of Wreslemania since that is once a year, and even the Royal Rumble and Summerslam costing a bit more, but the rest of the PPVs should be $20 tops.
I'm going to RAW on the 30th in Baltimore. I'm really excited. I've only ever been to one wrestling event, a house show back in the 98 or so, and that was pretty cool -- but I'm sure the Raw will have a better atmosphere (if not as good a roster). Cross your fingers for me that I get a good guest host.
last non roh show i went to i think was Great American Bash 96 at the arena. Had the infamous "THERE'S A LADY, THERE'S A LADY IN THE MENS BATHROOM" call from the Dream, and had Bischoff getting power bombed through a table by Kevin Nash
Brent L
11-08-09, 09:56 AM
Maybe you'll get lucky and that will be the week that David Arquette hosts. :p
GuessWho
11-08-09, 10:07 AM
Maybe you'll get lucky and that will be the week that David Arquette hosts. :pyes, always an honor to see a former world champion come back to show the new generation how it's done
Dr. DVD
11-08-09, 12:49 PM
If WWE puts the belt on Arquette, even as a joke for one night, that would still demean the title in a lot eyes.
Qui Gon Jim
11-08-09, 03:09 PM
I think WWE would see dividends if they lowered the non-major PPVs in price, and make the "big four" something special.
Monthly PPVs are the worst thing that came out of the MNW.
DthRdrX
11-08-09, 04:24 PM
You guys are giving me nightmares of when the WWF tried to sell PPV's by giving houses away ....
When they started the IYH ppvs I knew it was going to turn into a bad thing.
DaveNinja
11-09-09, 01:37 PM
not to derail the thread, but:
I'M GOING TO WRESTLEMANIA, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and Chris Jericho shook my hand!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
awesome! mainly the second one!
SuperBatMan
11-09-09, 01:42 PM
Sounds like the WWE is actually doing Survivor Series partially right this year. *faints*
BullGooseLoony
11-09-09, 01:46 PM
Yeah, Team Morrison vs. Team Miz could really steal the show. Not a bad match on the card. 2006 aside, Survivor Series is always a great show.
DthRdrX
11-09-09, 05:00 PM
The Survivor Series looks likes something I'd actually watch this year. Nice to see three traditional matches.
fujishig
11-09-09, 05:14 PM
I'll give some kudos to WWE for developing the Morrison/Miz stuff. I was pretty confused when they first split up, since they went to different brands and couldn't feud. But the way they handled it was a good variation: build each of them up on their separate brands, so that a later feud when they were a bit more established had more meaning to the fans. This is as opposed to a tag team breaking up, immediately feuding, and the winner becoming the bigger star.
SethDLH
11-11-09, 12:54 AM
Christian and Regal had a great ECW title match tonight. It was about 24 minutes long, and had everything you want in a clean title match. Thats 2 great title matches in a row for ecw...
GuessWho
11-11-09, 01:02 AM
from Jericho's twitter:
Undertaker vs Jericho on Smackdown this Friday. Ten years in the making and worth the wait! You will not be disappointed...
SethDLH
11-11-09, 01:48 AM
from Jericho's twitter:
Undertaker vs Jericho on Smackdown this Friday. Ten years in the making and worth the wait! You will not be disappointed...
I'm sure Jericho carries him.
Axeramm
11-11-09, 04:59 AM
I thought SD was supposed to have a triple threat tag match involving both Jericho and UT. Or is that RAW next week?
LaxBandit
11-11-09, 10:54 AM
I thought SD was supposed to have a triple threat tag match involving both Jericho and UT.
Or is that RAW next week?
RAWs main event next week is the triple threat tag match - John Cena/The Undertaker vs
Chris Jericho/The Big Show vs Triple H/Shawn Michaels. Chris Jericho vs The Undertaker is
this weeks main event on Smackdown.
I'm going to have to watch that Christian-William Regal match online as my DVD-R messed up
and didn't record. Glad it sounded like it was a pretty good match. I'm sure both stepped it up
a notch especially Regal since he was in his home country.
LB...
Mok
11-11-09, 12:40 PM
Christian and Regal had a great ECW title match tonight. It was about 24 minutes long, and had everything you want in a clean title match. Thats 2 great title matches in a row for ecw...
I agree awesome match.
KnightLerxst
11-11-09, 03:42 PM
last non roh show i went to i think was Great American Bash 96 at the arena. Had the infamous "THERE'S A LADY, THERE'S A LADY IN THE MENS BATHROOM" call from the Dream, and had Bischoff getting power bombed through a table by Kevin Nash
Wow...I was there for that too. I remember people from the crowd running to the bathroom once they saw Benoit and Sullivan were fighting in there.
Rypro 525
11-12-09, 12:22 AM
yep. I don't think they warned people that the match was headed that way. I was on the other side of the building, so i couldn't race to that bathroom. Also, they had it on the screens
dx23
11-12-09, 10:29 AM
This interview with Rob Van Dam shows how delusional Vince McMahon is:
http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=42937
Brent L
11-12-09, 10:54 AM
If WWWF/WWF/WWE didn't have such a history behind it going back decades, and instead it only first appeared in the late 80s or early 90s, I'd be willing to bet that the company wouldn't be around today. Ever since the height of the Attitude era and the Monday night wars, it has been as if Vince has just totally legit lost his mind.
Sure, there have been a few bright spots since 2001, I wouldn't continue to watch if that wasn't the case, but when you look at the big picture, nothing major has really happened and not much has changed since then other than backstage policy and the like. In terms of on screen product, other than making the horrible decision to go PG, the product is still in the same rut it was back then.
I don't care about the title matches on the Survivor Series PPV at all, not one bit. The only reason I care about that show is because of the old school SS matches.
The fact that they had a dream match lined up, Jericho vs. Taker, and instead of holing off until Wrestlemania where it could likely draw big based on "Taker's streak, they have never faced off one on one" they go and book it for a taped Smackdown show. They couldn't even hold off on it until SS. We get to see the first Jericho/Taker match on free TV, but we have to pay to see Jericho/Taker/TBS?
If they wanted to go with this angle they should have at least put Taker/TBS on Smackdown since we've seen that plenty of times in the past.
As much as I loved the Christian/Regal match on ECW, that whole situation put a major sour taste in my mouth. They started with the Christian/Regal feud a while back and Christian won. They seemed to drop it for weeks, then Regal started attacking Christian and did so to the point where he forced Christian to accept the match even when the GM didn't want to offer it. They label the match we just saw as Regal's final shot at the title, they're in his home town/country, and what do they do? They blow off the feud, once again, by having Christian just beat him again.
I love Christian and all, but this was one of those times where it was just "the time" to switch the title. They could have created an entire new situation on ECW where Regal was the new heel champ with the two big guys watching his back, just dominating the show. Maybe bring in Lo-Ki and Danielson as challengers to Regal to team up with Christian even. Can anyone really think Regal wouldn't make a heck of a champion on ECW? I love the show almost every week, but come on, it's time for that to happen.
But no, now we'll likely get Regal pushed back down just as a manager of his duo beating up Yoshi Tatsu again, and Chrstian will probely go on to defend his title against freakin' Vance "Hoyt" Archer.
For the love of God, Hogan, please be sincere in making big changes in TNA. Whatever it takes, I don't care, just anything to shake things up in both TNA and as a result WWE!
Here is the latest bit on that deal from the WO:
As things stand right now, the Jan. 4 date is the one on the books for Hogan’s television debut. They could do a Monday night one-time special to test the waters, or it could be done that night and taped for Thursday night airing. My feeling is if they do an 8-10 p.m. Monday special, WWE will counter with a three-hour Raw, and would attempt to bring in Dwayne Johnson (who is scheduled to host on a January show, date as far as I know not decided, but most figured WWE would at least try to get 1/11 since UFC goes live head-to-head that night). In a sense, the publicity of a Hogan vs. Johnson head-to-head, if it were to happen, would probably help TNA in getting the word out, but also open them up for a major potential embarrassment should the numbers come in bad.
Thursday is the much safer alternative, unless they can find a Monday when WWE isn’t as likely to go three hours in competition. Whether this comes to fruition or not, the company idea seems to be for Hogan and a number of other top names to all be on that first show which would be presented as if it was a new beginning for the company. So they’ve got just under two months to finalize the various deals with the various names being talked with, the biggest ones being Flair and RVD, neither of whom have signed at press time.
Now all of that said, Chris Jericho is the brightest spot in all of wrestling right now to me:
twitter.com/iamjericho
Got hit in the face with a glowstick in London tonight...what a way for a grown man to make a living...
4:25 PM Nov 11th from Echofon
BravesMG
11-13-09, 12:19 AM
Raven looked in great shape compared to the last time he was out there. If he's able to really stay in shape and get his stuff in order, he could be another great addition to help shake things up.
Rypro 525
11-15-09, 05:10 PM
I'll be damned, but i am actually looking forward to the TNA ppv tonight and will be the first one i've legit ordered since January 2007. All i can say is 'please don't fuck it up', cause the card on paper has great potential
Quack
11-15-09, 08:08 PM
Just heard from a buddy that Sean Mooney interviewed for a job at WWE.
:up:
Brent L
11-15-09, 10:52 PM
F4W says a source is telling them that they hired him too.
The TNA PPV tonight was incredible, just so awesome from start to finish. I didn't hate anything hardly at all, and both of the matches on top are two of the best matches I've seen all year.
Looking at the show from top to bottom, maybe my favorite PPV of the year. I still loved HBK/Taker more than the two matches on top tonight, but I may love this TNA show as a whole more than even WM this year.
dx23
11-15-09, 11:34 PM
From everything I read tonight it seems that Turning Point is the wrestling PPV of the year. Turning Point seems to have been the turning point for the company.
salamander2
11-16-09, 12:15 AM
looks like Lashley is leaving TNA, based on what happened on the ppv. And I hope Hogan dont screw up the pushes Wolfe, Mogan, Hernandez, Pope are getting.
Curse_7781
11-16-09, 12:24 AM
looks like Lashley is leaving TNA, based on what happened on the ppv. And I hope Hogan dont screw up the pushes Wolfe, Mogan, Hernandez, Pope are getting.
What makes you say that? I haven't heard reports about Lashley leaving the company...they might turn him heel but I heard anything about any backstage blowups about the guy.
dx23
11-16-09, 05:14 PM
Jesse Ventura is going to be the Raw guest host next week.
Rypro 525
11-16-09, 05:36 PM
from pwinsder
By Mike Johnson on 2009-11-16 16:14:56 TNA President Dixie Carter noted that Kurt Angle threw his back out early on in his PPV bout with Desmond Wolfe last night. That is insane, given how awesome the match was. I really wish we could have seen what a 100% healthy Kurt Angle might have given to the wrestling business had he walked in without all the issues from his collegiate career.
SethDLH
11-16-09, 06:32 PM
is anyone else excited for Piper on Raw tonight? I mean, I'm sure it will be stupid, but I get so happy seeing him around. He was always one of my favorites when I was young and meeting him and getting to talk to him for a few minutes shot him to the top 2 or 3 for sure
DthRdrX
11-16-09, 08:44 PM
Jesse Ventura is going to be the Raw guest host next week.
Now that sounds interesting.
dx23
11-16-09, 09:03 PM
Luis Guzman and the Iron Sheik with Pipper!
Axeramm
11-16-09, 09:23 PM
Cant believe Santino amuses me so much.
cartman
11-16-09, 10:19 PM
I flip over for a moment to see what looks to be the spawn of Casper the Friendly Ghost and a carrot beating up the guy that rings the bell. Good to see that by stopping watching I haven't missed anything at all.
DthRdrX
11-16-09, 10:42 PM
LMAO ... somebody needs to get a video of that blown spot and Orton throwing his hands up in anger/confusion.
dx23
11-16-09, 10:57 PM
Really, Cena is sucking and sucking more in the mic every time he gets near a camera. Just stop the Rock-wannabe shit!!!
dx23
11-16-09, 10:59 PM
I flip over for a moment to see what looks to be the spawn of Casper the Friendly Ghost and a carrot beating up the guy that rings the bell. Good to see that by stopping watching I haven't missed anything at all.
I was thinking the same thing. I don't see Shaemus as a threat at all, no matter how many people he beats up. To me, he has the Snitsky vibe, where he is so goofy looking, that it distracts from whatever he does. If there is someone who should be using long tights, is fucking Shaemus the whitey carrot.
DthRdrX
11-16-09, 11:07 PM
I was thinking the same thing. I don't see Shaemus as a threat at all, no matter how many people he beats up. To me, he has the Snitsky vibe, where he is so goofy looking, that it distracts from whatever he does. If there is someone who should be using long tights, is fucking Shaemus the whitey carrot.
We're stuck with him. He is HHH's workout body on the road and when asked about the current young prospects/lack of main eventers HHH pushed Shaemus as the next big thing.
dx23
11-16-09, 11:13 PM
I also vote for Matt Striker to replace Michael Cole on Raw and demote Cole to ECW.
DthRdrX
11-16-09, 11:18 PM
They should bring Mooney back the same week as Ventura.
GuessWho
11-17-09, 10:05 PM
Has anyone seen Todd Pettengill lately? Holy dye job!
https://www.toddscds.com/bio.php
dx23
11-17-09, 10:13 PM
I respect Bruno Sammartino and what he did for wrestling, but this interview clearly shows that he never adjusted to the changes in the business and that he doesn't understand how things changed from his era to the TV era.
Sammartino shows that he is really stubborn and doesn't have a true reason other than his hatred towards Vince and the era that followed him.
DthRdrX
11-18-09, 04:48 PM
I also vote for Matt Striker to replace Michael Cole on Raw and demote Cole to ECW.
- Sources say that Michael Cole has some major heat on him right now from within WWE. The feeling is that he isn't taking his job seriously anymore and officials aren't happy with some of his "stupid" comments made on TV lately. They also feel that he is no longer putting the company first.
There may be another shuffling of announcers soon as Jerry Lawler being attacked last night and Matt Striker filling in for him was done so WWE could test the waters to see how the different announcers work together.
Word is that several people who had been trying out for the new WWE announcer spot were contacted this past week and thanked for applying but were told that someone else had been hired.
Mooney?
DthRdrX
11-18-09, 04:56 PM
I respect Bruno Sammartino and what he did for wrestling, but this interview clearly shows that he never adjusted to the changes in the business and that he doesn't understand how things changed from his era to the TV era.
Sammartino shows that he is really stubborn and doesn't have a true reason other than his hatred towards Vince and the era that followed him.
I had to stop reading shortly after hearing, "Hogan was not a top draw".
dx23
11-18-09, 05:02 PM
I had to stop reading shortly after hearing, "Hogan was not a top draw".
He still believes that being a top draw means selling out house shows, not bringing money from merchandising, PPV sales and ratings. He doesn't even have his facts straight and said that Hogan caused WCW to lose $72 million the year he arrived. Sammartino has turned out to be a senile old man and it is sad because I would love to see him inducted to the Hall of Fame and see a DVD of his matches.
DthRdrX
11-18-09, 05:03 PM
BTW, two stories making the waves currently.
1.) Wrestlemania Main Event is rumored to be Undertaker v.s. Cena
2.) Wrestlemania is in Phoenix this year, which is where the Ultimate Warrior lives. Recently Jim Ross addressed the rumors, mentioning it is a possibility that a Hall of Fame speech from the Warrior would certainly be interesting.
1.) Wrestlemania Main Event is rumored to be Undertaker v.s. Cena
2.) Wrestlemania is in Phoenix this year, which is where the Ultimate Warrior lives. Recently Jim Ross addressed the rumors, mentioning it is a possibility that a Hall of Fame speech from the Warrior would certainly be interesting.
So...they are obviously setting up Cena to end Taker's WM reign and look like even more of a Superhuman. That'll turn things around alright.
DthRdrX
11-18-09, 06:03 PM
Jim Cornette (http://whosslammingwho.podomatic.com/entry/2009-11-11T09_30_39-08_00) talks about the Warrior possibly going in the HoF and the TNA situation.
DthRdrX
11-18-09, 07:08 PM
Future Guest Hosts ...
November 30th: Verne "Mini Me' Troyer
December 7th: Mark Cuban
December 14th: Dennis Miller
Simply hilarious!!! I had fun spotting all the "legends" in the backgroud ... The Nasty Boys, Val Venis ... who else did I miss???:)
dx23
11-18-09, 11:37 PM
Gangrel!
Rypro 525
11-19-09, 01:03 AM
Jim Cornette (http://whosslammingwho.podomatic.com/entry/2009-11-11T09_30_39-08_00) talks about the Warrior possibly going in the HoF and the TNA situation.
that was great. Cornette is right on
sleepyhead55
11-19-09, 03:48 PM
Sid Vicious has allegedly signed with TNA.
SethDLH
11-19-09, 04:03 PM
Sid Vicious has allegedly signed with TNA.
glad to see TNA taking steps in the right direction... sarcasm.
BullGooseLoony
11-19-09, 04:56 PM
I had to stop reading shortly after hearing, "Hogan was not a top draw". Same here. It was interesting at first, then just unpleasant.
BullGooseLoony
11-19-09, 04:58 PM
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Fj3OvBjJ1yU&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Fj3OvBjJ1yU&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> I like how when Hogan initially turns to the audience, you can see that's he prepared to take a shot. He doesn't seem to react to the hit other than falling down. Bischoff's "acting" is great, too.
DthRdrX
11-19-09, 05:05 PM
Sid Vicious has allegedly signed with TNA.
You know what is funny about this? When the Scott Hall-Sid video hit youtube last summer I told a friend that Sid was nuts for not taking whatever cash he could get from TNA, and that eventually it would sink in that Vince doesn't want him back.
Anyway, Anyone else watch 'Jim Rome is Burning' today? He had a good laugh at the Flair/Hogan thing.
From Jericho's Twitter
Got in an arguement with an old man at ringside after the match in Philly tonight. One of the funniest moments of my career by far...
11:54 PM Nov 17th from Echofon
The Piggy James segment on Smackdown cracked me up. I know I shouldn't have laughed, especially since WWE actually considers her too fat, but it was too silly not to.
DthRdrX
11-21-09, 02:49 PM
The Piggy James segment on Smackdown cracked me up. I know I shouldn't have laughed, especially since WWE actually considers her too fat, but it was too silly not to.
It was entirely ridiculous. Seriously, is Mickie James being a couple pounds heavier than the other stick figure Divas really storyline material?
The only thing I learned from the whole segment was that Michelle is a worse singer than Jillian.
dx23
11-21-09, 04:19 PM
It was entirely ridiculous. Seriously, is Mickie James being a couple pounds heavier than the other stick figure Divas really storyline material?
The only thing I learned from the whole segment was that Michelle is a worse singer than Jillian.
I agree. WWE again acting like a insecure teenager girl by calling their curvaceous diva a pig. Really mature Vince. Did you do the same when Stephanie was pregnant?
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