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scott1598
10-29-09, 08:41 PM
surprised there isn't a thread on this. this is the one executive produced by Oprah and Tyler Perry (which should not be construed as a "Tyler Perry" movie in the least). i think it opens limited 11/6.

looks like one of those raw, gut-wrenching, based on real life, incredibly acted movies that don't come along too often. getting a lot of Oscar buzz for newcomer Gabourey Sidibe who plays Precious and Mo'Nique who plays her mother.

looking forward to having my heart tore out with this one.

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fernsita
11-06-09, 03:03 PM
This trailer really just got me. It seems like a great movie and the cast is really impressive too. I love Paula Patton, so I am glad to see her back in this movie. I just hope this movie doesn't make me sad, because the trailer alone got me a little down.

project86
11-07-09, 01:55 AM
So it's Madea: The Beginning?

NZ_DVD_Freak
11-07-09, 05:45 AM
I saw this in the London Film Festival. It got a standing ovation from the audience and I saw a lot of comments on twitter afterwards from people saying how amazing it was. Personally I didn't like it that much. There are a couple of famous celebrities playing cameo roles that I found quite distracting. Added to the fantasy sequences I found it difficult to take the story seriously. It really piles on the tragedy and after a while it all seems a bit too much.

Giantrobo
11-07-09, 06:56 AM
Just waiting for the Tyler Perry haters to show up...

I've heard it's good and I LOVE Mo'Nique, but I'll probably skip this.

naitram
11-07-09, 08:18 AM
Not going to break my precedent of avoiding Tyler Perry movies for this.

ScissorPuppy
11-07-09, 09:39 AM
I think this movie was made without Tyler Perry or Oprah. It was after they saw it they wanted to put their names on it, Something like that, but I could be wrong.

The fact that the media and Oprah are starting to SHOVE this "Important" movie down the throat of America is enough for me to say BIG FAT PASS!

writer106
11-07-09, 09:42 AM
I read the book a few years back for a college class. The book was really depressing to read but it was a good book. The movie does look good and it did see a thing during on Starz that shows the fantasy sequences that NZ DVD Freak mentioned.

jmu878
11-07-09, 10:54 AM
blah...i just don't care.

Giantrobo
11-07-09, 02:57 PM
I think this movie was made without Tyler Perry or Oprah. It was after they saw it they wanted to put their names on it, Something like that, but I could be wrong.

Yeah I heard that Oprah jumped aboard after seeing it.



The fact that the media and Oprah are starting to<b> SHOVE </b>this "Important" movie down the throat of America is enough for me to say BIG FAT PASS!


How so?

Let's face it. This movie is targeted for Black Audiences so it's no shock that many here aren't interested.

naitram
11-07-09, 04:02 PM
Let's face it. This movie is targeted for Black Audiences so it's no shock that many here aren't interested.

What's that supposed to mean?

bootsy
11-07-09, 06:56 PM
What's that supposed to mean?

This guy or girl makes a lot of ignorant statements on here.

ScissorPuppy
11-07-09, 07:22 PM
Let's face it. This movie is targeted for Black Audiences so it's no shock that many here aren't interested.

Yeah, that must be it -ohbfrank-

Plenty of white people are talking about this movie too. That's about as much response as your going to get from me.

Suprmallet
11-07-09, 08:17 PM
Well, I'll tell you this: The audience turnout for this movie is through the roof. Yesterday at my theater we sold out every showtime. I don't mean every show at night. I mean from the first show of the day to the last. At 6:45 PM we were sold out until 10 PM. At 8 PM we were sold out until midnight. I couldn't add shows fast enough. I'd add a show, come back 5 minutes later, and it was already 30% sold. Another 10 minutes and it would be close to sold out. Un-fucking-real.

big whoppa
11-07-09, 09:00 PM
Let's face it. This movie is targeted for Black Audiences so it's no shock that many here aren't interested.

I agree. This is true of the nation for movies with an almost black cast though there a few exceptions.

Actually Lee Daniels is the director of this movie. He produced "Monster's Ball." Oprah and Perry helped this movie get attention and signed as producers. There is a lot of critical buzz for this film and for Mo'Nique's performance and it's only being released in a handful of big cities and won't go national until a couple of weeks.

BTW, Mariah Carey and Lenny Kravitz are the stars with small roles in this one.

Matthew Chmiel
11-07-09, 09:06 PM
According to Nikki Finke, it did $585k yesterday on 18 screens. That's a whopping $32k PSA.

Estimates have it set for close to $2 million for the weekend on only 18 screens.

Ash Ketchum
11-07-09, 09:10 PM
I've read lots of rave reviews of this film by white critics. I've read only one review by a black critic, Armond White. He calls it the most demeaning film toward black Americans since THE BIRTH OF A NATION. I don't think you can get more negative than that. I'd like to get a second opinion from another black critic. Unfortunately, none of the publications I read have black film reviewers, other than, of course, New York Press, which gives us Armond White's breathless prose. I'm normally a fan of White, but I'm never quite sure what agenda he's pushing or what grudge he's holding.

AnonomusBob15
11-07-09, 10:34 PM
My mother wants to see this. That's their audience. She's a single old white lady.

Not my cup of tea, but probably will have to sit through it with someone at some point.

The Bus
11-07-09, 10:38 PM
I've been following this one for a while. Too bad it took them so long to release it.

Giantrobo
11-07-09, 11:33 PM
This guy or girl makes a lot of ignorant statements on here.

Yes he or she does. But that doesn't make him or her wrong in this case....

Giantrobo
11-07-09, 11:36 PM
Yeah, that must be it -ohbfrank-

Plenty of white people are talking about this movie too. That's about as much response as your going to get from me.


Sure. He or she didn't say Whites won't be allowed to see it so don't run too far off with what he or she meant. He or she just meant that films like this tend to have a narrow audience and if others outside of that narrow field happen to show an interest then that's great.

You can get all self righteous if you want, but that doesn't make his or her statement wrong.

Mondo Kane
11-07-09, 11:38 PM
I love Paula Patton, so I am glad to see her back in this movie.

Oh, that's who it is. On all the ads I've seen, I kept on wondering why Alicia Keys' name wasn't appearing anywhere.

bootsy
11-08-09, 12:03 AM
Yes he or she does. But that doesn't make him or her wrong in this case....

It makes you something worse than that.

Draven
11-08-09, 12:05 AM
I'm not interested in seeing it simply because it looks really depressing. But I was morbidly curious how depressing so I've read a few descriptions online...which confirms that yes, it is extremely depressing.

And frankly, I go see the movies to enjoy myself.

Ginwen
11-08-09, 12:20 AM
It looks too depressing, it may be good, but I don't want to see it.

Giantrobo
11-08-09, 12:24 AM
It makes you something worse than that.

Get over yourself. If you have issues then put him or her on IGNORE and get on with your life.

big whoppa
11-08-09, 04:56 AM
I'm not interested in seeing it simply because it looks really depressing. But I was morbidly curious how depressing so I've read a few descriptions online...which confirms that yes, it is extremely depressing.

And frankly, I go see the movies to enjoy myself.


I like fun, silly movies as much as the next guy but I really get into movies that make you think and put you on an emotional journey. Maybe that is what happens as you age. Besides, I can relate to the emotional and physical abuse so I'd see this on DVD if not necessarily at a theater.

mickey65
11-08-09, 06:03 AM
I put it on my Netflix que...

fumanstan
11-08-09, 01:08 PM
I saw the trailer for this awhile back and it looked interesting, but not really my cup of tea. The trailer looked a little bit TOO sappy and emotional for me.

Daytripper
11-08-09, 01:16 PM
Well, I'll tell you this: The audience turnout for this movie is through the roof. Yesterday at my theater we sold out every showtime. I don't mean every show at night. I mean from the first show of the day to the last. At 6:45 PM we were sold out until 10 PM. At 8 PM we were sold out until midnight. I couldn't add shows fast enough. I'd add a show, come back 5 minutes later, and it was already 30% sold. Another 10 minutes and it would be close to sold out. Un-fucking-real.

Daniel, have you seen it yet? I've read for a few months on two Oscar buzz websites I visit that it's one to keep your eye on. Just recently I started seeing commercials for it. And damn I wish they'd cut those Orpah endorsements out of them ;) It's odd to see people avoiding this or any film because the subject matter is depressing. I don't just go see (or rent) "up" movies.

bootsy
11-08-09, 01:35 PM
Get over yourself. If you have issues then put him or her on IGNORE and get on with your life.

You get over making stupid comments and then I wouldn't have to call your lame ass out. Tell me does this film fit under your "Magic Negro" theory or whatever you call it.

Groucho
11-08-09, 01:35 PM
You get over making stupid comments and then I wouldn't have to call your lame ass out.Take it to PM.

spainlinx0
11-08-09, 02:38 PM
surprised there isn't a thread on this. this is the one executive produced by Oprah and Tyler Perry (which should not be construed as a "Tyler Perry" movie in the least). i think it opens limited 11/6.

looks like one of those raw, gut-wrenching, based on real life, incredibly acted movies that don't come along too often. getting a lot of Oscar buzz for newcomer Gabourey Sidibe who plays Precious and Mo'Nique who plays her mother.

looking forward to having my heart tore out with this one.

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This is based on a true story? I read the book in college, and I remember that it was definitely not a true story.

Artman
11-08-09, 02:50 PM
Sure it looks well made but just isn't something I'm interested in. Honestly just from the preview I found it hard to sympathize with the characters, it seemed they put themselves in their situation based on their own bad decisions.

RagingBull80
11-08-09, 03:09 PM
This is not something I'd normally be interested in anyway but the names "Oprah" and "Tyler Perry" attached definitely put this in the "movies I will never see under any circumstances" category.

And that title is ridiculous. Just call it Precious for Christ's sake.

bootsy
11-08-09, 03:28 PM
Take it to PM.

You take it to AM.

bootsy
11-08-09, 03:33 PM
This is not something I'd normally be interested in anyway but the names "Oprah" and "Tyler Perry" attached definitely put this in the "movies I will never see under any circumstances" category.

And that title is ridiculous. Just call it Precious for Christ's sake.

This is silly. From my understanding Perry and Oprah have almost nothing to do with this except attaching their names to it after see it and providing promotional assistance to have the film released through Lionsgate. This happened in February.

As for the title being ridiculous another silly statement. T The film's title was changed at this time to Precious: Based on the Novel "Push" by Sapphire to avoid confusion with the 2009 action film Push. This is basically giving credit to the author of the novel. Nothing wrong with the title at all.

RagingBull80
11-08-09, 03:51 PM
As for the title being ridiculous another silly statement. T The film's title was changed at this time to Precious: Based on the Novel "Push" by Sapphire to avoid confusion with the 2009 action film Push. This is basically giving credit to the author of the novel. Nothing wrong with the title at all.
I don't see it as silly. Precious would have worked just fine as the title. It sounds pretentious to me.

As I stated in a thread not long ago, No Country for Old Men is my favorite film of the last decade. If the title had been No Country for Old Men: Based on the novel by Cormac McCarthy, I would have criticized it as well.

RagingBull80
11-08-09, 03:53 PM
You take it to AM.
And respect the Groucho.

Though it was a good one.

Artman
11-08-09, 03:55 PM
This is silly. From my understanding Perry and Oprah have almost nothing to do with this except attaching their names to it after see it and providing promotional assistance to have the film released through Lionsgate.

Yes and it's fair to assume they agree with and approve of the movie's message(s). If someone has an issue with Oprah and Perry's views than it's certainly valid to not want to support what they do, financially or otherwise.

bootsy
11-08-09, 03:57 PM
And respect the Groucho.

Though it was a good one.

Don't need to respect anyone who doesn't respect me.

RagingBull80
11-08-09, 04:03 PM
Don't need to respect anyone who doesn't respect me.
:lol: Lighten up. Groucho did no disrespecting. He was only trying to keep the forum civilized.

bootsy
11-08-09, 04:12 PM
:lol: Lighten up. Groucho did no disrespecting. He was only trying to keep the forum civilized.

Yes he did. He follows me all over this board and tells me to take it to PM. Does he do that any other poster. NO.

I love how someone can tell another person they aren't being disrespected.

RagingBull80
11-08-09, 05:30 PM
Yes he did. He follows me all over this board and tells me to take it to PM. Does he do that any other poster. NO.

I love how someone can tell another person they aren't being disrespected.
I was talking about strictly in this thread.

scott1598
11-08-09, 05:58 PM
This is based on a true story? I read the book in college, and I remember that it was definitely not a true story.

i didn't mean it was based on a real life person, just one of those that could be based on real events type movies. raw, gritty and real life, not Hollywoodized.

Suprmallet
11-08-09, 06:54 PM
Mod Note: Bootsy, you seem to be taking this thread too seriously. You should calm down. If you have an issue with a post or a poster, report it to a moderator. Do not respond to it directly.

bootsy
11-09-09, 12:48 AM
Mod Note: Bootsy, you seem to be taking this thread too seriously. You should calm down. If you have an issue with a post or a poster, report it to a moderator. Do not respond to it directly.

OK Thanks

toddly6666
11-09-09, 01:27 AM
I just saw PRECIOUS tonight. Excellent, moving, depressing and intense drama! I won't be surprised if this gets Oscar-nominated for Best Picture, Best Director, and a bunch of Best Actor awards...and Maria Carey can act!

Add another actor to the list that went from comedian to Oscar-nominated actor! (It's gonna be Mo'Nique).

big whoppa
11-09-09, 02:29 AM
^Were you satisfied with the ending? Not that I know how it ends.

toddly6666
11-09-09, 10:23 AM
^Were you satisfied with the ending? Not that I know how it ends.

yeah, it's an excellent ending for a depressing film...haha. I didn't read the book so I don't know if the ending is the same, but there is nothing unrealistic about the ending.

troystiffler
11-09-09, 07:41 PM
What they did with Tyler Perry's makeup is amazing.

Tom Creo
11-09-09, 10:27 PM
Very interested in seeing this. I might ask my sister to see this with me since we both grew up in a very destructive home. We can cry in each others presence without having to explain ourselves. It can be theraputic.

Boba Fett
11-09-09, 10:45 PM
I guess we have our token "social issue" picture all lined up for the Oscars.

I've never seen so much heartstring pulling melodrama in a trailer before; I shudder to think of the full product.

Tom Creo
11-10-09, 12:21 AM
I guess this movie's not for you then.

iggystar
11-10-09, 11:38 AM
Melodrama...I think there are people who grew up in houses full of drama and the lead actress appears to be a shell of a person, the trailer looked dramatic, dark and depressing.

I think I'll have to get into the mood to see this.

Giantrobo
11-10-09, 04:01 PM
Gabourey 'Gabby' Sidibe (Precious) was on Letterman last night and she seemed like a really sweet person.

Patman
11-14-09, 10:38 PM
Precious is 16, soon to have her 2nd child, lives with an abusive mother, and gets dismissed from her school due to her pregnant condition. Her principal arranges for Precious to attend alternative school in the Each One Teach One program in hopes of encouraging Precious to attain her G.E.D.

Think it can't get any worse for Precious? The rest of the film weaves through Precious in her new learning environment, slowly learning and expanding her worldview. She is encouraged to write about her feelings and her struggles by her teacher, Ms. Rains, while also dealing with her home life and the birth of her second child.

Mo'Nique's performance as Precious's mother is solid work (might even be worthy of a Best Supporting Actress nomination). Newcomer Gabby Sidibe as Precious is also a winning performance, as a lot of the film is in Precious's first person thoughts via voiceovers and fantasies, and she has to carry the film throughout to showcase her life filled with struggle and growth. Paula Patton, Lenny Kravitz, even Mariah Carey round out a solid supporting cast. Director Lee Daniels uses some nifty transitions from Precious's life and fantasy segments that never seems over-the-top or gratuitous, remaining reflective of Precious inner monologue to propel the story along.

I give it 3 stars, or a grade of B.

Wolf359
11-16-09, 09:54 AM
^^
Good review, but I liked it more than you. I would give it an A. Very intense and emotional, I was pretty much a wreck about 3/4ths of the way through when something is revealed and the shit gets even worse.

Too bad that Tyler Perry's very limited involvement is causing some to not want to see this.

Solid Snake PAC
11-16-09, 01:31 PM
No offense, but...why does Perry's involvement of it as a producer matter to them? It's not like he directed it...

Wolf359
11-16-09, 02:58 PM
No offense, but...why does Perry's involvement of it as a producer matter to them? It's not like he directed it...

Or acted in it...

Usual internet BS.

lamphorn
11-19-09, 12:40 AM
Gosh, a movie about a black overweight female and this character is NOT played by a skinny, has-been, black male comedian? Might be worth it just for that.

lamphorn
11-19-09, 01:17 AM
Barry Lyndon: Based on the novel The Memoirs of Barry Lyndon, Esq. by William Makepeace Thackeray

bootsy
11-19-09, 01:47 AM
Gosh, a movie about a black overweight female and this character is NOT played by a skinny, has-been, black male comedian? Might be worth it just for that.

And the stupid comments in this thread continue...:wtf: Just trying to see if anyone can make a comment about this movie that doesn't have to do with race.

lamphorn
11-19-09, 02:30 AM
And the stupid comments in this thread continue...:wtf: Just trying to see if anyone can make a comment about this movie that doesn't have to do with race.
My comment was more about gender and was a rather pro-feminist comment that was friendly to this film.

Large black women, when they are ever represented on film, are usually being lampooned and ridiculed in graphically scatological ways by male comics. This one, while probably insanely melodramatic, actually bothers to take a black woman who doesn't look like Halle Barry seriously.

Artman
11-19-09, 11:12 AM
Just trying to see if anyone can make a comment about this movie that doesn't have to do with race.

Just read about the homosexual apects in the film... This thing appears so full of messages is there room for anything else? lol

OutRun2
11-21-09, 03:31 AM
Just a quick clarification....that is not Mariah Carey in the film it's her sister.

mhg83
11-21-09, 07:53 AM
Just a quick clarification....that is not Mariah Carey in the film it's her sister.

Imdb lists Mariah Carey for the cast. Where did you hear it wasn't her?

And i see this is being shown on Imax screens??? very strange film to have on Imax.

ScissorPuppy
11-21-09, 08:13 AM
Stanley Kubrick's Barry Lyndon: Based on the novel The Memoirs of Barry Lyndon, Esq. by William Makepeace Thackeray

Fixed:)

hapgilmore
11-21-09, 06:05 PM
I saw this today...some of the best acting I have ever seen, Mo'nique should win best supporting actress hands down (unless someone else really blows me away by the end of the year). Hard to watch but it is a very good film.

Why is more not being said about Mariah Carey? I didn't even know it was her until the end credits! Who knew she could actually act? I was impressed.