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Game 1 Oct. 15 Phillies at Dodgers 8:07PM ET
Game 2 Oct. 16 Phillies at Dodgers 4:07PM ET
Game 3 Oct. 18 Dodgers at Phillies 8:07PM ET
Game 4 Oct. 19 Dodgers at Phillies 8:07PM ET
Game 5 Oct. 21 Dodgers at Phillies, if necessary 8:07PM ET
Game 6 Oct. 23 Phillies at Dodgers, if necessary 8:07PM ET
Game 7 Oct. 24 Phillies at Dodgers, if necessary 8:07PM ET
Regular Season Results
Dodgers lead 4-3
May 12 Phillies 5, Dodgers 3
May 13 Dodgers 9, Phillies 2
May 14 Dodgers 5, Phillies 3
June 4 Phillies 3, Dodgers 0
June 5 Dodgers 4, Phillies 3
June 6 Dodgers 3, Phillies 2
June 7 Phillies 7, Dodgers 2
All games are on TBS? What's up with that deal?
coli
10-14-09, 06:51 PM
Lineup: Advantage Phils
Starting Pitching: Advantage Phils
Bullpen: Advantage Dodgers
I am a Phils fan so I may be biased, but I say the Phils in 7. Most national sports writers are picking the Dodgers because of the Phils bullpen is a mess, so it should be a great series. Plus the fact that they played each other last year in the NLCS adds alittle more to it.
Damfino
10-14-09, 06:59 PM
Lineup: Advantage Phils
Starting Pitching: Advantage Phils
Bullpen: Advantage Dodgers
I am a Phils fan so I may be biased, but I say the Phils in 7. Most national sports writers are picking the Dodgers because of the Phils bullpen is a mess, so it should be a great series. Plus the fact that they played each other last year in the NLCS adds alittle more to it.
Yeah, I can't wait to see the Dodgers take batting practice against the Phils bullpen. I am picking the Dodgers of course, but this isn't going to as easy as the Cardinal series.
cardsfan111
10-14-09, 09:24 PM
All games are on TBS? What's up with that deal?
Very unhappy about this. I'd much rather watch the NLCS, but won't get the chance.
this isn't going to be as easy as the Cardinal series.
:( It still makes me sad the Cards couldn't put up more of a fight.
fumanstan
10-14-09, 09:32 PM
As a Dodger fan, my confidence isn't that high. I think the Phils can easily repeat their performance like last year, although I do think the Dodgers lineup is a bit underrated.
Game 2 start time = :down:
Setzer
10-14-09, 09:42 PM
Both these teams suck. They should just cancel this series and let the Angels/Yankees series be the WS. :D
CRM114
10-15-09, 09:57 AM
I believe the Phillies took the first two in LA last year. Hopefully they can get at least one and bring the series back here for 3 games. Same lineup as last year with better pitching. I'm not really sure how the Dodgers feel they have an advantage.
CRM114
10-15-09, 09:59 AM
Both these teams suck. They should just cancel this series and let the Angels/Yankees series be the WS. :D
Angels?
Hopefully, we can get rid of both of the LA teams and have a World Series with no coast to coast nonsense. Plus, the Phils are the only team capable of knocking off the Yankees, IMO.
wildcatlh
10-15-09, 10:01 AM
I believe the Phillies took the first two in LA last year. Hopefully they can get at least one and bring the series back here for 3 games. Same lineup as last year with better pitching. I'm not really sure how the Dodgers feel they have an advantage.
Series started in Philadelphia last year. Phillies won the first two in Philly, then lost the first game in LA (game 3), and won Games 4 (on the Stairs HR) and 5 to take the series.
CRM114
10-15-09, 10:05 AM
I don't know why I thought the series started in LA. I guess that gives some advantage to the Dodgers I hadn't considered.
CRM114
10-15-09, 10:16 AM
I don't think this has been officially announced yet.
Phillies indicate Pedro as Game 2 starter (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091014&content_id=7457680&vkey=news_phi&fext=.jsp&c_id=phi&partnerId=rss_phi)
With Blanton and Happ in the bullpen for games 1 and 2, I guess that means Lee will go Game 3. Also, Chan Ho Park was added to the roster and Brett Myers dropped.
Goat3001
10-15-09, 10:33 AM
Hopefully, we can get rid of both of the LA teams and have a World Series with no coast to coast nonsense.
I have nothing against the Dodgers but it would be great not to have any west coast trips to deal with during the WS.
But of course, don't count out the Angels. They're a very good team and they've always had the Yankees number. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Angels in the World Series.
On top of that I think a Phils/Yankees World Series would be great as one of my closest friends is a big Phillies fans.
Setzer
10-15-09, 10:34 AM
Angels?
2nd best team in baseball and only team capable of knocking off the Yankees.
Phillies?? :lol:
CRM114
10-15-09, 10:53 AM
On top of that I think a Phils/Yankees World Series would be great as one of my closest friends is a big Phillies fans.
I live an hour from New York and an hour from Philadelphia. I can tell you this area is wanting that matchup!
CRM114
10-15-09, 10:54 AM
2nd best team in baseball and only team capable of knocking off the Yankees.
Phillies?? :lol:
What's so funny about the World Series Champions? If the Phils are the best team in baseball, are you saying the Angels are better than the Yankees? :hscratch: The Phils beat the Yankees 2 out of 3 in Yankee stadium.
Goat3001
10-15-09, 11:01 AM
I live an hour from New York and an hour from Philadelphia. I can tell you this area is wanting that matchup!
I feel it would have a Mets vs. Yankees 2000 WS vibe to it. I know 90% of the country would disagree but that series was a lot of fun in NY and there are plenty of Phils fans in New York.
Quake1028
10-15-09, 12:31 PM
What's so funny about the World Series Champions? If the Phils are the best team in baseball, are you saying the Angels are better than the Yankees? :hscratch: The Phils beat the Yankees 2 out of 3 in Yankee stadium.
Not really sure why you keep bringing that up and want to hang your hat on that series. The Yankees were a mess and only 24-17 coming into that series. A far cry from the team that went 79-42 the rest of the way and finished with 103 wins.
fumanstan
10-15-09, 12:40 PM
East coast bias -ohbfrank- :p
WallyOPD
10-15-09, 12:51 PM
Not really sure why you keep bringing that up and want to hang your hat on that series. The Yankees were a mess and only 24-17 coming into that series. A far cry from the team that went 79-42 the rest of the way and finished with 103 wins.
At 24-17 the Yankees were on pace to win 95 games, I wouldn't say that's a far cry from 103.
Red Dog
10-15-09, 12:51 PM
East coast bias -ohbfrank- :p
This east-coaster thinks an all-L.A. series would be just dandy. ;)
huh?
10-15-09, 12:51 PM
Do we know who the commentators are for this series?
Quake1028
10-15-09, 01:22 PM
At 24-17 the Yankees were on pace to win 95 games, I wouldn't say that's a far cry from 103.
Sure, but they were/are playing a lot better now than they did then. They were 17-17 and won 7 in a row before that series against Minnesota and Baltimore. They didn't exactly have the toughest schedule in the world those first 24 wins.
WallyOPD
10-15-09, 02:08 PM
Sure, but they were/are playing a lot better now than they did then. They were 17-17 and won 7 in a row before that series against Minnesota and Baltimore. They didn't exactly have the toughest schedule in the world those first 24 wins.
They played over a third of their pre-Phillies games against the Twins, Tigers, Red Sox, and Angels. :shrug:
Goat3001
10-15-09, 02:58 PM
Regardless of their record was and what they ended up with, hanging your hat on a 3 game series in June is a tough sell. Not saying the Phillies can't or won't beat the Yankees (if either team gets that far, so we're getting ahead of ourselves), but to site the reason that the Phillies are better than the Yankees because the Phillies won a 3 game series in June doesn't really fly.
After all, the Yankees lost 2 of 3 at home to the Nationals too. It's baseball, that stuff happens.
starman9000
10-15-09, 03:04 PM
The Twins also were swept by the Yankees in the regular season, and that didn't mean anything come playoff time...oh wait... dammit.
The Bus
10-15-09, 03:47 PM
Black Taco!
fumanstan
10-15-09, 05:25 PM
Regardless of their record was and what they ended up with, hanging your hat on a 3 game series in June is a tough sell. Not saying the Phillies can't or won't beat the Yankees (if either team gets that far, so we're getting ahead of ourselves), but to site the reason that the Phillies are better than the Yankees because the Phillies won a 3 game series in June doesn't really fly.
After all, the Yankees lost 2 of 3 at home to the Nationals too. It's baseball, that stuff happens.
Agreed, a 3 game series like that pretty much means nothing to me too.
coli
10-15-09, 07:41 PM
I may be an old foggie here, but I remember back in 1983, the Dodgers were 11-1 against the Phils that year, and EVERY national pundit cited those numbers in predicting the Dodgers over the Phils in the NLCS that year. The Phils won in 4 games that year:)
jPoD_TGN
10-15-09, 07:46 PM
Go Phillies!
wirefan
10-15-09, 08:17 PM
Nice baserunning... Victorino even tried the bush league move of trying to create contact to get out of his boneheaded play. Not sure why he wasn't called out as he was several feet on the grass trying to pull that crap.
whotony
10-15-09, 09:09 PM
well a bit of a pitchers duel so far.
wirefan
10-15-09, 09:41 PM
Did the TBS play by play guy seriously not know that you can't run to first base on a strikeout/pitch in the dirt when there's a runner on first and less than 2 out?
And did Victorino not know it? (Or was he trying to dupe a different ump this time)
wildcatlh
10-15-09, 09:46 PM
Thanks for leaving Kershaw in to face Howard, Joe!
huh?
10-15-09, 09:47 PM
Did the TBS play by play guy seriously not know that you can't run to first base on a strikeout/pitch in the dirt when there's a runner on first and less than 2 out?
And did Victorino not know it? (Or was he trying to dupe a different ump this time)
Ladies and gentlemen, Chip Carey!
whotony
10-15-09, 09:48 PM
to be fare that's a call that doesn't immediately come to mind right when it happens, I didn't hear the tv guy, I have the Phils radio synched up with the tv and Scott Franske didn't have it right away either.
He had Shane going to first too for a couple of seconds before he changed realized what was happening.
btw, not a pitchers duel anymore.
Ok Cole don't let them back in the game.
fumanstan
10-15-09, 09:52 PM
Shit :sad:
wirefan
10-15-09, 09:52 PM
Thanks for leaving Kershaw in to face Howard, Joe!
The master of the quick hook, and the guy who was telling the TBS guys how you can't be afraid to yank a starter, decides this is the time to see if a young pitcher who's thrown 3 wild pitches in one inning can work his way out of it?
Joe's an excellent people manager but he's always been a shitty game tactician.
whotony
10-15-09, 09:55 PM
oops, good start there Hamels.
whotony
10-15-09, 10:03 PM
that was messed up, nevver should have thrown to first after jimmy got mixed up.
jeez HAMELS.
Some 5th inning for both teams.
LickTheABCs
10-15-09, 10:03 PM
that was messed up, nevver should have thrown to first after jimmy got mixed up.
That's what I'm sayin'
coli
10-15-09, 10:21 PM
Joe's an excellent people manager but he's always been a shitty game tactician.
This is the difference between the NL and AL, there is a bit more strategy without the DH.
If Torre was in the AL(like he was for 13 years), and didn't have to worry about the pitcher hitting second the next inning, I think he would have yanked him, but he took his chances and it backfired.
Another reason why I hate the DH....
whotony
10-15-09, 10:23 PM
I think thats it for hamels/
whotony
10-15-09, 10:27 PM
alright, Phillies bullpen vs. Dodgers pen.
wirefan
10-15-09, 10:36 PM
This is the difference between the NL and AL, there is a bit more strategy without the DH.
If Torre was in the AL(like he was for 13 years), and didn't have to worry about the pitcher hitting second the next inning, I think he would have yanked him, but he took his chances and it backfired.
Another reason why I hate the DH....
I don't like the DH either.... but since Torre was pinch-hitting Hudson in the next inning and the 2nd baseman made the last out of the previous inning - seems like he easily could have did a double switch. I think Torre just screwed it up and must have missed the 3 wild pitches and countless balls that were missing all over the place.
Wow Torre is just terrible... had he not thought ahead about what he would do if Thome reached base? And why are the umps just sitting there and saying we'll just wait while Joe gets his shit together?
whotony
10-15-09, 10:40 PM
'cause he's Joe Torre of the Dodgers.
anyone else get that much time?
Well I really hated that half inning.
coli
10-15-09, 10:40 PM
So now they will halt the game because a guy on the bench doesn't have his spikes on???? Come on, if you're not ready, the game must go on!
LickTheABCs
10-15-09, 10:41 PM
^ seriously, what the shit is that?
wirefan
10-15-09, 10:59 PM
I guess Manuel's part of the Tony Larussa school of bullpen management....as we push toward the 3 hour mark with no out in the bottom of the 7th inning?
fumanstan
10-15-09, 11:09 PM
Owned by Chan Ho Park :sad:
whotony
10-15-09, 11:10 PM
Utley always scares me the way he fields those ground balls.
whotony
10-15-09, 11:17 PM
there it is.!!
fumanstan
10-15-09, 11:17 PM
Ugh, and that's probably game :(
LickTheABCs
10-15-09, 11:18 PM
Rauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul!
CRM114
10-15-09, 11:20 PM
Dodgers have the bullpen advantage, right?
Raauuuuuuuuuuuuuul!
fumanstan
10-15-09, 11:28 PM
Dodgers have the bullpen advantage, right?
Raauuuuuuuuuuuuuul!
Yeah, and the Phillies are better then the Yankees because they won 2/3 back in June :p
whotony
10-15-09, 11:30 PM
this is gonna be a long series.
And Madsen is crap right now.
Setzer
10-15-09, 11:37 PM
Two run game now. Not over yet.
fumanstan
10-15-09, 11:44 PM
Damn it Manny, take more steroids :(
Setzer
10-15-09, 11:44 PM
Phillies dodged a bullet there.
whotony
10-15-09, 11:44 PM
oye
whotony
10-16-09, 12:03 AM
shoot, Lidge has trouble from the stretch
whotony
10-16-09, 12:05 AM
ok thats better.
dp.
anyone else still here?
wirefan
10-16-09, 12:10 AM
^ As we pass the 4 hour mark, I'm waiting for the "Lidge is back" if he gets an out here.
2 balls that were stung and a walk... he's lucky it's not bases loaded/no out right now.
CRM114
10-16-09, 12:12 AM
And the Fightins take Game 1.
CRM114
10-16-09, 12:13 AM
Yeah, and the Phillies are better then the Yankees because they won 2/3 back in June :p
That's a large extrapolation of what I said, but OK.
LickTheABCs
10-16-09, 12:13 AM
^ As we pass the 4 hour mark, I'm waiting for the "Lidge is back" if he gets an out here.
2 balls that were stung and a walk... he's lucky it's not bases loaded/no out right now.
A save is a save.
JBR52
10-16-09, 12:17 AM
A save is a save but this is roller coaster Lidge that fell apart in the 2005 postseason. Not the same guy from last year or the lights out Lidge from the Houston days before Pujols ruined him..
RayChuang
10-16-09, 07:53 AM
Oh man--"Greeny" and Golic on ESPN Radio's Mike & Mike in the Morning just ripped Torre a new one over leaving Clayton Kershaw just too long on the mound over that 5th inning debacle. -ohbfrank-
wildcatlh
10-16-09, 08:12 AM
A save is a save but this is roller coaster Lidge that fell apart in the 2005 postseason. Not the same guy from last year or the lights out Lidge from the Houston days before Pujols ruined him..
That's normal Lidge. Even last year when he was "lights out", his saves were like that.
wildcatlh
10-16-09, 08:13 AM
Also, Chip Caray needs to make it a bit less obvious who he's rooting for. He probably needed a towel after that Ramirez HR.
CRM114
10-16-09, 08:59 AM
^ My wife and I were discussing that. His call on Ruiz's homerun compared to his orgasmic Manny call was pretty sad. And this was a guy suspended for 50 games for steroids.
CRM114
10-16-09, 10:48 AM
Phillies relievers trump heralded LA 'pen (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091015&content_id=7463034&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)
Damfino
10-16-09, 11:14 AM
Thanks for leaving Kershaw in to face Howard, Joe!
This was the key mistake. It was a rare Lasorda-esque blunder on Torre's part.
fumanstan
10-16-09, 11:24 AM
Yeah, and the weird thing is given the series with the Cards, Torre wasn't shy about going to the bullpen. I assume he was hoping Kershaw could get out of it, but yikes given the circumstances.
From Jayson Stark's article too:
The Dodgers' starter was Clayton Kershaw. He threw three wild pitches in one inning. He never did that all year. He also gave up a three-run homer (to Carlos Ruiz). Never did that all year, either.
Equally unfathomable was what happened to the Dodgers' most unhittable left-handed reliever, George Sherrill. He came in to start the eighth inning and walked the first two hitters. He'd never done that. Not this year. Not any year. Then he served up a three-run homer to a left-handed hitter (Raul Ibanez). So how many homers did Sherrill allow to left-handed hitters during the regular season? None, of course.
Oh, and one more thing on Sherrill: He faced 111 hitters in two months after the Dodgers traded for him this July -- and allowed two runs. He then gave up more runs than that in this series within the first three hitters he faced.
:(
starman9000
10-16-09, 11:27 AM
Damn Ibanez is a stud.
The Twins should be able to trade Nathan to the Dodgers this off season, he'd fit in perfect there.
wlmowery
10-16-09, 11:30 AM
One thing I know, these games are NOT good for this guy's health....
I could feel the blood pressure building around about 11pm last night!
CRM114
10-16-09, 11:32 AM
I heard on the radio that the Dodgers wouldn't allow in a sign that said "Manny is only Manny with a needle in his fanny." :lol: In fact, I didn't see any signs in the crowd.
CRM114
10-16-09, 11:33 AM
One thing I know, these games are NOT good for this guy's health....
I could feel the blood pressure building around about 11pm last night!
These have been fantastic games.
wlmowery
10-16-09, 11:50 AM
These have been fantastic games.
Yeah, great games. Game 4 against Colorado was one of the BEST baseball games I have watched in recent memory....
All that said, I'm getting too freakin' old for this type of stress....
Damfino
10-16-09, 01:24 PM
I heard on the radio that the Dodgers wouldn't allow in a sign that said "Manny is only Manny with a needle in his fanny." :lol: In fact, I didn't see any signs in the crowd.
There has been a long standing policy not to allow fan made signs in Dodger Stadium regardless of what they say.
CRM114
10-16-09, 01:53 PM
That explains the absence of signs. CBP has no such policy. :)
wirefan
10-16-09, 03:43 PM
That's normal Lidge. Even last year when he was "lights out", his saves were like that.
Ah... the selective memory...
Lidge 2009 reg season WHIP:1.81, 9.36K/9IP
Lidge 2009 post season WHIP:1.71 (obviously too small a sample size to be considered yet)
Lidge 2008 reg season WHIP:1.23, 11.94K/9IP
Lidge 2008 post season WHIP:0.96, 12.54K/9IP
So when you say his saves 'were like that" last year, you actually meant to say he's only allowed 50% more baserunners? and even more compared to the 2008 postseason (nearly double)? For you to say his saves were like that last year is a big stretch... He may turn it around, but he's pitching nowhere near like he did last year (even putting aside the ERA and blown saves).
LickTheABCs
10-16-09, 04:49 PM
^ not going by stats, but my actual memory. I remember many games last year that were almost blown saves but saved by a ridiculous play in the field by Utley or Rollins.
That's what you get for actually watching the games and not reading stats.
wildcatlh
10-16-09, 05:06 PM
^ not going by stats, but my actual memory. I remember many games last year that were almost blown saves but saved by a ridiculous play in the field by Utley or Rollins.
That's what you get for actually watching the games and not reading stats.
That's what I was going off of as well. Remember the World Series clincher even. I think Navarro got a 1 out hit, and then Zobrist absolutely pulverized one to right field that by all rights should've found the gap and been a game tying double, but it was right at Werth. (for an example)
wildcatlh
10-16-09, 05:16 PM
Pedro looking very good so far.
wirefan
10-16-09, 05:22 PM
^ Or it's what you want to remember... he gave up 1/2 the baserunners (in the 08 postseason) and 50% fewer baserunners in the regular, he also struck out hitters at a 20% higher rate.... I'm sorry what you get from watching most games is the ability to recall the tough saves and selectively forget the 'easier' ones.
How about the # of 1-2-3 innings or innings with only 1 baserunner? Would that be a measure of easy vs uneasy saves? Perhaps a bit more than as measured by Phillies fan memory?
2008 (81 total appearance):
26 appearances with no baserunners allowed
24 appearances with just 1 baserunner
2009 (70 total appearance)
20 appearances with no baserunnes (though four were 1 out appearances)
12 appearances with 1 baserunner
So to summarize:
2008: 50/81 appearance with 0 or 1 baserunner (~62%)
2009: 32/71 appearances with 0 or 1 baserunner (~45%)
Granted I don't watch Phillies games as much as you guys probably do - but I must have missed some ridiculously good defense in 2008.... or maybe the defense degraded in 2009? I'm sure that the difference betwen 62% and 45% was the ridiculously good defensive play that Philly apparently only did in 2008 and not 2009 (or at least did at a much higher rate).
wildcatlh
10-16-09, 05:56 PM
There was a rather big difference in BABIP for Lidge in '08 vs '09 (.317 in 2008, .369 in 2009)
wirefan
10-16-09, 06:10 PM
^ and your point is? (He was luckier in 2008?)
fumanstan
10-16-09, 06:11 PM
Sucks being on the trailing end of a pitcher's duel :sad:
wirefan
10-16-09, 06:23 PM
Both pitchers dealing. 1 out in the 8th inning was Padilla's first 3 ball count all day (and that was nearly a punch out)
Pedro had the Dodger hitters off balance all day. With only 87 pitches you have to wonder if Manuel should have just left Pedro in to bunt and then pitch the 8th?
EDIT - And on cue the PH grounds into a DP.
TheNightFlier
10-16-09, 06:39 PM
Is Utley turning into Chuck Knoblauch? ;)
LickTheABCs
10-16-09, 06:44 PM
^ he's obviously injured.
Between him, Rollins and Feliz, the fact they are even at this point is amazing.
whotony
10-16-09, 06:50 PM
^ he's obviously injured.
Between him, Rollins and Feliz, the fact they are even at this point is amazing.
Not obvious, he hasn't had trouble throwing until lst 2 games.
Here is the Phils pen imploding now......
TheNightFlier
10-16-09, 06:52 PM
^ he's obviously injured.
Between him, Rollins and Feliz, the fact they are even at this point is amazing.
Like whotony said it's only been last night and today. There was plenty of time to make that throw. Maybe he should try throwing overhand instead of that ridiculous sidearm.
Damfino
10-16-09, 06:54 PM
Ethier up. 2 out bases loaded.
wirefan
10-16-09, 07:00 PM
Like whotony said it's only been last night and today. There was plenty of time to make that throw. Maybe he should try throwing overhand instead of that ridiculous sidearm.
And while fading toward the pitcher's mound? (such that the ball has a tendency to drift in that direction too, unless you throw across your body.
I hate to first guess but Pedro had a 2 hitter and just 87 pitches and was pitching on, what, 20 days rest? And they pull him where you had a potential bunt situation (runner on first, 1 out) when his spot in the order came up and while leading?
Edit: And in comes relief pitcher #5 of the 8th inning
Setzer
10-16-09, 07:02 PM
Dodgers gonna win this because the Phillies bullpen can't find the fucking strike zone. :lol:
Damfino
10-16-09, 07:02 PM
:banana: Dodgers take lead on bases loaded walk. Thank you Phils bullpen! Manny is up.
TheNightFlier
10-16-09, 07:03 PM
And while fading toward the pitcher's mound? (such that the ball has a tendency to drift in that direction too, unless you throw across your body.
I hate to first guess but Pedro had a 2 hitter and just 87 pitches and was pitching on, what, 20 days rest? And they pull him where you had a potential bunt situation (runner on first, 1 out) when his spot in the order came up and while leading?
Yeah Pedro seemed to be rolling.
devilshalo
10-16-09, 07:04 PM
Stupid Manny. :mad:
Setzer
10-16-09, 07:06 PM
Pedro came out too soon.
devilshalo
10-16-09, 07:07 PM
C'mon Broxton!
Setzer
10-16-09, 07:13 PM
Dodgers with the gift win.
Red Dog
10-16-09, 07:13 PM
:banana: Dodgers take lead on bases loaded walk. Thank you Phils bullpen! Manny is up.
That was great. rotfl
Damfino
10-16-09, 07:14 PM
Dodgers win! wasn't pretty, but I'll take it! :lol:
whotony
10-16-09, 07:16 PM
hopefully Manuel will address why he took Pedro out.
feenst
10-16-09, 07:54 PM
hopefully Manuel will address why he took Pedro out.
hopefully Manuel will address why he took Pedro out.
He lets him pitch 130 pitches on a Sunday night regular season, but takes him out after 87 pitches in a playoff game?????
Now if Pedro gets to the 8th, you should have a quick hook, but atleast let him go out in the 8th. This bullpen is still a mess and I predicted they would atleast blow 1 maybe 2 games.
tofferman
10-16-09, 08:29 PM
It makes no sense (despite the reasoning) why managers pull pitchers who are in complete command of the game as Pedro was this afternoon. His performance, like Padilla's, was masterful. Managers state that pitchers are on "pitch counts" or that they want to let the bullpen finish it.
Starting pitchers are simply coddled nowadays. He should have remained in the game until there was a real scoring threat or he was gassed.
Too bad for Pedro Martinez. He pitched an absolute gem.
Utley the goat.
coli
10-16-09, 09:24 PM
I am suprised Manuel didn't try to get all he can out of Pedro, because I thought that was the theory going into the playoffs with this Phils team. These relievers have been hot and cold ALL year. Madson is unhittable one game and then gets shelled the next. Park was great last night, and couldn't get an out today. And you just don't know what you'll get with Lidge.
I really thought Charlie was going to ride his starters as long as they go, and then if you have to go to the bullpen, you cross your fingers. This was a move you make LAST year with the Phils, you get to the 8th and Madson then Lidge, game over. Not this year....
whotony
10-18-09, 08:10 PM
Game time...
fumanstan
10-18-09, 08:29 PM
Ugh, not a good start :sad:
fumanstan
10-18-09, 08:31 PM
Fuck x 2.
JumpCutz
10-18-09, 08:41 PM
This game is over. Well almost. Hard to believe the Dodgers will bat Lee around and concurrently the Phillies offense will stop scoring runs. :shrug:
whotony
10-18-09, 08:45 PM
Ugh, not a good start :sad:
depends on your perspective.
whotony
10-18-09, 08:51 PM
Ryan Howard makes a good throw.
CRM114
10-18-09, 08:58 PM
Nice to see the Phillies bats come alive.
Howard and Chooch strike again. Amazing.
fumanstan
10-18-09, 09:03 PM
depends on your perspective.
How insightful! I never realized!
wirefan
10-18-09, 09:03 PM
Wow - missed the beginning of the game and it already appears to be over. Torre might as well just had Kuroda stay in and eat innings...
Granted I miss the 1st inning but did Torre just bring a lefty in for one out in the 2nd inning? Isn't it a wee bit early to do lefty/lefty righty/righty matchups?
huh?
10-18-09, 09:03 PM
Brutal start for LA
whotony
10-18-09, 09:16 PM
How insightful! I never realized!
Uh Oh, don't get testy now.
this will be a long series I'm pretty sure.
wirefan
10-18-09, 09:32 PM
Uh Oh, don't get testy now.
this will be a long series I'm pretty sure.
Define "long"... are you assuming a bunch of rainouts? :)
Do you think the series even goes back to LA?
cardsfan111
10-18-09, 09:42 PM
Do you think the series even goes back to LA?
I think it's realistic to think Philly might take 2 of 3 at home. It would be surprising for them to win all 3.
coli
10-18-09, 09:55 PM
Do you think the series even goes back to LA?
The only momentum in baseball is your next pitcher. One of the Dodgers starters can throw a gem like Padilla and steal one game in Philly. I just think the Phils have too much firepower over the Dodgers to lose this series. Plus Lee will pitch game 6, as he is as tough as Sabbathia right now.
whotony
10-18-09, 09:57 PM
the Phils have Lee set for a game 7, as it looks like Blanton in the next game.
Also for some reason the Phils don't hit slop pitcjhers and haven't hit Wolf well.
coli
10-18-09, 10:00 PM
the Phils have Lee set for a game 7.
Also for some reason the Phils don't hit slop pitcjhers and haven't hit Wolf well.
Really, cause Game 6 would be Friday Night right? That would have Lee on 4 days rest.
wildcatlh
10-18-09, 10:39 PM
Really, cause Game 6 would be Friday Night right? That would have Lee on 4 days rest.
I think it probably will depend on the situation. Down 3-2 they go Lee in Game 6. Up 3-2 I'd suspect they put Pedro back out there and hope for another gem.
whotony
10-18-09, 11:08 PM
ok lets save some for tomorrow.
wirefan
10-18-09, 11:24 PM
Yeah this series is likely to go more than 5 games... while the Dodgers could steal one I'm confused as to how Philly fans think it is likely or pretty sure that this will be a long series - is it just a case of fans trying to keep expectations down?
CRM114
10-18-09, 11:42 PM
Let's keep it going tomorrow night!
LickTheABCs
10-18-09, 11:46 PM
:lol: at the Phillies outscoring the Eagles.
JumpCutz
10-19-09, 01:08 AM
:lol: at the Phillies outscoring the Eagles.
...and the Eagles played the Raiders. rotfl :lol:
RayChuang
10-19-09, 07:50 AM
I just finished reading Philly.com (the web page of the two Philadelphia-area newspapers) and you can tell that fan allegiance is now with the Phillies. All the commenters on that web site are praising the Phillies while ripping the Eagles to confetti and smaller pieces. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/grin.gif
CRM114
10-19-09, 11:35 AM
All Phillies fans remember The Wolf Pack but did you know this about them?
Wolf still has loyal fans in Philly
By Amy K. Nelson
ESPN.com
PHILADELPHIA -- When Randy Wolf takes the mound Monday night against his old team, there will be six Phillies fans, somewhere in the stands, quietly watching with admiration.
Patrick Wood, a lifelong, diehard Phillies fan, will be one of the six family members at Citizens Bank Ballpark. Wood, 38, will be rooting for his team, but that doesn't mean he won't have mixed emotions when he watches the Phillies try to build on their 2-1 series lead against the Dodgers in Game 4 of the National League Championship Series.
That's because Wolf isn't just another hated opposing pitcher. He is much more than that to the Wood family.
"In the regular season I don't mind if both pitchers throw eight shutout innings and we win it in the bottom of the ninth," Patrick Wood says from his Philadelphia home Sunday night. "In the playoffs, if they put a 3-spot on [Wolf] and he goes five innings, I won't cry. But I don't want to see him get shelled."
Many fans wouldn't understand Patrick Wood's loyalty to a former Phillie. But most also wouldn't understand how Randy Wolf was there for the Wood family -- the originators of the Wolf Pack fan section at the old Veterans Stadium -- in its worst moment, when the baby of the family, Tom, was killed in a car crash.
When Wolf surprised the family by attending Tom's funeral, a bond between the Wolf Pack brothers and Randy would remain.
It was 1999 and Wolf, who had been taken in the second round of the 1997 draft by Philadelphia, was a rookie pitcher. At one of his first starts, some of the Wood brothers took out a white cloth and decided to make a sign, buy some wolf masks and create a fan club. They called themselves the Wolf Pack.
"The Phillies stunk in '99; they were terrible," Patrick Wood says. "We just decided we're gonna support this guy. My brothers picked up some masks made a banner that said wolf pack on it. We danced around, had fun and enjoyed it."
The brothers, seven of them, and a few cousins made it a ritual: every home game when Randy pitched they'd crowd the empty 700 level at the Vet and don the wolf masks. It did not go unnoticed by the 22-year-old lefty.
On May 13, in his only start at Citizens Bank Ballpark this season, Randy Wolf tossed six innings of three-hit ball to earn the win.
Soon thereafter, a meeting was arranged between Randy and the Wolf Pack. Patrick Wood was impressed with how nice and normal Wolf seemed; he even thought Randy looked like he could have been a member of their family. A mutual respect was born, and for three years Patrick and his brothers and cousins attended every single home start Wolf made.
They once made an appearance when Wolf didn't start. It was right before the 2000 All-Star break and then-manager Terry Francona asked Wolf to go to the bullpen. Some of the brothers were home watching the game on TV, saw Wolf warming up and rushed to the Vet, masks, sign and all.
"By the time I got into the game, they were there," Wolf says. "That's unbelievable."
That same year, Patrick also rushed his newlywed bride, Amy, to a start in between their wedding and reception.
Then on April 5, 2002 -- Opening Day for the Phillies -- Tom Wood, the youngest of 11 children, and seventh son, was hit in a head-on car collision. Not a scratch was on his body, but his brain swelled with damage. While the family was at the hospital, Randy Wolf called.
"I don't know how Randy found out, but he called the hospital to check on him," Patrick says.
Tom Wood passed away five days later. He was 21 years old. Two days later, on April 12, Randy Wolf made his season debut. The Wood family, which had never missed a Randy Wolf start, knew what they had to do. In grief, they gathered at their Wolf Pack section, asked the media to give them their space, and arrived with a new banner: Wolf Pack. Tom Wood 1980-2002. The Wood family watched as the Phillies ran a pregame video tribute to their brother.
Patrick broke down in tears.
Then Wolf took the mound. Right before he threw his first pitch, he turned around and pointed to the Wolf Pack.
The next day, when the Wood family buried Tom, Randy Wolf attended the funeral. The Wood family didn't know the major leaguer, the one whom they paid tribute at each of his home starts, was coming to pay tribute to them, and to Tom.
"I could tell they really appreciated that I was there," Wolf says. "I didn't do it for that reason; I thought it was really cool how [the Wood family] treated me. I didn't think it was that hard for me to do. The fact that they appreciated it, I knew that I made the right decision."
In the years since Tom's passing, the Wolf Pack's bond grew stronger with Randy. When he made the 2003 All-Star team, members of the Wolf Pack went to Chicago, where they met Randy's mother.
"She adopted us," Patrick says with a laugh.
Patrick and Randy exchanged e-mail addresses, and other Wood brothers, some of whom are Philly police officers, remained in touch with Wolf. Then, Wolf left the Phillies after the 2006 season. A native of Los Angeles, he signed with the Dodgers for the 2007 season.
Patrick knew how special Dodger Stadium was to Wolf, who would go to games there with his father, Jim, who passed away when Randy was a senior in high school.
"I was happy for him when he went to L.A.," Patrick says. "As a friend, how could you deny him that? I know some people were bothered in Philly that he left; we weren't among them."
After splitting last year between San Diego and Houston, Wolf signed a one-year $5 million deal with the Dodgers this year. The 33-year-old left-hander went 11-7 with a 3.23 ERA this year. In two starts against the Phillies this season, Wolf is 1-1 with a 5.11 ERA. At Citizens Bank Park, he is 9-7 with a 4.30 ERA in 27 career starts.
But his memories were really not made here; instead they began a decade ago, in section 700, upper level, at the Vet.
"It was pretty incredible," Wolf says. "It was my second home start and they were there. I think it was like three or four guys … and from that point on they were just there.
"They took me in and made me feel welcome [in] what could be kind of a tough city."
That support continued, even on Sunday. Wolf was at his hotel when one of the detail cops told him John Wood wanted to give him a ride to the ballpark. Wolf said he'd be ready at 3 p.m. And no surprise, there was John Wood, at 3 o'clock, in his cruiser, driving Randy Wolf -- a Dodger -- to Game 3 against the Phillies.
But Wolf knows once Monday night begins, the Wood family's allegiance is with the Phillies. Right after the Phillies beat the Rockies to make it to the NLCS, Patrick Wood sent Wolf an e-mail.
"Despite what anyone is going to say, you know us, we know you," it read. "This if your life, your career. May the best team win."
Nice article on the Wolf Pack. I remember those days.
LickTheABCs
10-19-09, 08:24 PM
Dear Ryan Howard,
I love you.
Love, LickTheABCs.
coli
10-19-09, 08:42 PM
The new Mr. October: Ryan Howard.
I keep wondering why are these teams giving A-Rod and Howard good pitches to hit??? Atleast The Angels finally intentionally walked A-Rod tonight.
whotony
10-19-09, 09:03 PM
tonight the Phils had a runner on first and Wolf had two pitches that should have been called strikes go for a ball.
Then on the homer Wolf missed his spot.
wirefan
10-19-09, 09:51 PM
Is there a reason why Howard didn't just stretch and catch that throw on the fly? It looked like he just non-chalanted it when he could have just caught it on the fly.
whotony
10-19-09, 10:01 PM
well again the Phils still can't hit Wolf and Charlie left Blanton in too long.
CRM114
10-19-09, 11:34 PM
Missed opportunities. It's going to be a long series.
U6C84
10-19-09, 11:53 PM
wow
whotony
10-19-09, 11:53 PM
holy crap.
How did that HappenQ???
tofferman
10-19-09, 11:53 PM
Rollins!
dx23
10-19-09, 11:55 PM
That's the worst winning music I've heard in my life!! Congratulations to the Phillies coming back to win another great game.
zuffy
10-19-09, 11:56 PM
The Dodgers are done.
wildcatlh
10-19-09, 11:59 PM
Matt Stairs is kryptonite for Broxton, I tells ya!
Man, that was awesome.
JumpCutz
10-20-09, 12:00 AM
:lol: Fatboy!
CRM114
10-20-09, 12:00 AM
Holy shit! What a finish. Another incredible win.
Goldblum
10-20-09, 12:00 AM
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh
CRM114
10-20-09, 12:02 AM
Ryan Howard ties Lou Gehrig for most consecutive playoff games with an RBI (8). A record that has stood for over 70 years.
whotony
10-20-09, 12:06 AM
That's the worst winning music I've heard in my life!! Congratulations to the Phillies coming back to win another great game.
I couldn't tell what it was.They're chanting beat L.A. then they play High Hopes after every win in tribute to Harry Kalas.
Tarantino
10-20-09, 12:31 AM
Rollins comes through. That was nuts...and why I watch the baseball playoffs.
fumanstan
10-20-09, 12:41 AM
Man, that sucks. I was following the Gamecast all night since I couldn't watch the game. Ugh, what a terrible finish. :sad:
whotony
10-20-09, 01:09 AM
Ugh, what a terrible finish. :sad:
Depends on yo.....
;)
fumanstan
10-20-09, 01:18 AM
:mad:
LickTheABCs
10-20-09, 02:21 AM
MLB.com did a great job getting their story straight:
This team just drives me crazy. It's too much sometimes. More of the 11-0 variety is welcomed. :)
coli
10-20-09, 06:29 AM
I can't remember a more exciting set of playoffs in Baseball. Every game in each series is going down to the final out or extra innings. Two walk-off hits yesterday for the Phils and Angels. And of course my Phillies are 1 win away from a second straight WS trip:)
starman9000
10-20-09, 07:26 AM
What a finish, too bad MLB is too stupid to put these games on OTA TV :(
cardsfan111
10-20-09, 08:31 AM
What a finish, too bad MLB is too stupid to put these games on OTA TV :(
Thought the exact same thing as I saw the score online going into the 9th and then the final score come up on ESPN.
CRM114
10-20-09, 09:00 AM
I couldn't tell what it was.They're chanting beat L.A. then they play High Hopes after every win in tribute to Harry Kalas.
They play that wacky game ending music after every win.
wildcatlh
10-20-09, 10:53 AM
What a finish, too bad MLB is too stupid to put these games on OTA TV :(
It's not stupidity, it's $$$.
I'd be shocked if the entire playoffs aren't on ESPN within the next 5-10 years. It's bound to happen.
grip
10-20-09, 11:19 AM
I'm just waking up from my stupor last night. I had to start drinking if I was to get through watching the broncos and their socks....
I had a terrible dream that it was the 9th inning and broxton was facing Stairs..woke up with a sore neck....
So,
What happened last night?
Blue Blooded Grip
CRM114
10-20-09, 11:43 AM
Ask all the Dodger fans....oh wait.
CRM114
10-20-09, 02:28 PM
The call (http://www.tindeck.com/download/d6dd980d0fe77e04d4d08b4aec20eba7/kbpy/rollins_walk_off.mp3).
starman9000
10-20-09, 03:32 PM
What happened to the last post?
cardsfan111
10-20-09, 03:34 PM
What happened to the last post?
I noticed it and was about to quote it before it mysteriously disappeared. :lol:
LickTheABCs
10-20-09, 05:21 PM
It's a conspiracy! DVDTalk wants only the NYY to win awards!
Congrats to Happ!
cardsfan111
10-20-09, 05:43 PM
It's a conspiracy! DVDTalk wants only the NYY to win awards!
Congrats to Happ!
I'm still confused.
LickTheABCs
10-20-09, 06:10 PM
I'm still confused.
Happ was named the Sporting News ROY, so I congratulated him. Now, if he would only win the actual one..
whotony
10-20-09, 06:22 PM
I can't remember a more exciting set of playoffs in Baseball. Every game in each series is going down to the final out or extra innings. Two walk-off hits yesterday for the Phils and Angels. And of course my Phillies are 1 win away from a second straight WS trip:)
you never saw the 1980 series with the Phils vs the Astros.
look it up, was amazing to see.
coli
10-20-09, 07:21 PM
you never saw the 1980 series with the Phils vs the Astros.
look it up, was amazing to see.
I think you misunderstood me, I was talking about the playoffs as whole, not just one series.
Yes, I remember the 1980 NLCS, probably the best 5 game series ever. But this playoffs overall has been great, extra inning games, walk-offs, and come from behind wins in the 9th. Every game seems to be going down to the wire.
fumanstan
10-20-09, 07:57 PM
Ask all the Dodger fans....oh wait.
:sad:
whotony
10-20-09, 08:05 PM
The call (http://www.tindeck.com/download/d6dd980d0fe77e04d4d08b4aec20eba7/kbpy/rollins_walk_off.mp3).
On philly sportstalk 610 wip they played Vin's call of the end of the game.
Apprently he called Ruiz scoring then the mike went dead air for about 30 seconds until the station went to commercial.
gongon78
10-21-09, 01:53 AM
Man, that sucks. I was following the Gamecast all night since I couldn't watch the game. Ugh, what a terrible finish. :sad:
It was better you didn't watch it. I got out of class assuming the game was over. Went to a nearby TV and saw the game was still on!! I'm thinking Dodgers 4, Phillies 3. This was perfect timing. All the Dodger fans hovering around the TV was happy, 100% certain the game was over.
Then the walk came, a blooper for out #2. How can Broxton screw this up, right? Bottom 9, two outs, 0-1, with two strikes to go. One pitch to Rollins, and it felt like the someone tossed a stink bomb into the crowd. The crowd dispersed fast then ants smelling RAID.
JBR52
10-21-09, 02:39 AM
On philly sportstalk 610 wip they played Vin's call of the end of the game.
Apprently he called Ruiz scoring then the mike went dead air for about 30 seconds until the station went to commercial.
Vin has always known when to be quiet and let the crowd noise speak for itself. I wish every single announcer would take note instead of screaming like a bunch of lunatic fans.
damn_skippy
10-21-09, 08:30 AM
I was listening to the end of the game the other night and heard Vinny's call live. I love Vinny to death he is the best but as a dodger fan to hear the Philly fans cheering in the background was just a huge kick in the nuts. I keep thinking come on Vin say something already. I gotta say the hit sounded great i still haven't watched the replay.
CRM114
10-21-09, 09:06 AM
There is a need to call the game ending hit. THEN allow the crowd to speak for itself. Harry Kalas was a master at this. I wish Harry made the call. His suit will be watching.
people over there are so busy with the WS topic they forgot that this series isn't over yet.
Hamels still having problems so 2 long balls.
Nabalab
10-21-09, 08:46 PM
HR count is 4, and we're not even done with the 2nd inning!
zuffy
10-21-09, 08:47 PM
I hate the Dodgers but wish them luck in winning tonight. Don't want to see the NLCS end yet.
whotony
10-21-09, 08:57 PM
cole is in a groove.
whotony
10-21-09, 09:32 PM
Are the Phils going in for the kill....
not yet, but getting there.
strike zone got a little bigger last few hitters.
whotony
10-21-09, 10:02 PM
uh oh.
Quack
10-21-09, 10:15 PM
Nice to see Sherill coming in in the 5th....
whotony
10-21-09, 10:20 PM
And now Kershaw.
CRM114
10-21-09, 10:30 PM
Let's hold it together boys.
Quack
10-21-09, 10:39 PM
And another plunked batter.
whotony
10-21-09, 10:40 PM
good night!!!!!
dsa_shea
10-21-09, 10:43 PM
Someone needs to tell Kershaw and Park that grizzled is out.
whotony
10-21-09, 10:46 PM
Park has a beard and mustache, if that is what you're talking about.
Kershaw just can't grow a real beard.
LickTheABCs
10-21-09, 10:52 PM
Someone needs to tell Kershaw and Park that grizzled is out.
Kershaw looks like a Teen Wolf.
dsa_shea
10-21-09, 10:52 PM
Park has a beard and mustache, if that is what you're talking about.
Kershaw just can't grow a real beard.
And they both look silly. Good luck in the Series.
cardsfan111
10-21-09, 11:07 PM
One nice thing if the Phillies hang on and close this out tonight...
No more postseason games on TBS this year. :banana:
whotony
10-21-09, 11:08 PM
ok new pitcher please.
whotony
10-21-09, 11:14 PM
ok another new pitcher for Madson please.
whotony
10-21-09, 11:26 PM
Dodgers showed life there but Phils got out of it with only one run. phew.
CRM114
10-21-09, 11:30 PM
No one like J. "Russel" Martin and Casey Blake to kill a rally. :up: Way to go Madson. We're getting closer!
wildcatlh
10-21-09, 11:51 PM
Back-to-Back NL Champions. It's a nice feeling.
whotony
10-21-09, 11:56 PM
I'm in awe, I never expected in my lifetime that a Phillies team would win and then get back into the world series in consecutive seasons.
whotony
10-21-09, 11:59 PM
they're booing TBS :lol:
wlmowery
10-22-09, 12:03 AM
they're booing TBS :lol:
That was true philly... rotfl
Tarantino
10-22-09, 12:06 AM
:lol:
"Charlie! Charlie! Chaaaaaaarlieeeepthbbb...."
CRM114
10-22-09, 12:10 AM
Yawn. Bring on the Yanks! :D
Back to back NL Champs!
wildcatlh
10-22-09, 12:16 AM
they're booing TBS :lol:
Can you blame them?
Though Caray's tendency to root for the Dodgers will seem tame compared to Buck and McCarver's love for the Yankees in the WS
Mad Dawg
10-22-09, 12:25 AM
Congrats and good luck, Phillies fans!
LickTheABCs
10-22-09, 12:36 AM
I'm in awe, I never expected in my lifetime that a Phillies team would win and then get back into the world series in consecutive seasons.
You and me both.
RayChuang
10-22-09, 12:48 AM
Congratulations to the Phillies for winning the 2009 National League pennant. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/just_cuz/JC_cheers.gif
Maybe it'll just distract Philadelphia sports fan from the usual season-long soap opera that is the Eagles. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/remake/wink.gif
tofferman
10-22-09, 12:57 AM
Congrats to the Phillies. This series was mostly a mismatch...and could/should have been a sweep.
Damfino
10-22-09, 02:53 AM
Congrats to the Phillies, the best team won and since I am an NL guy, I will be rooting for them in the WS.
coli
10-22-09, 07:04 AM
I'm in awe, I never expected in my lifetime that a Phillies team would win and then get back into the world series in consecutive seasons.
Totally agree, as I have grown up a pessimistic fan. I was 8 years old when the Phils won in '80, and 11 when the 76ers won in '83, but the past 25 years were some tough years being a Philly fan. You just expected our Philly sports teams to find a way to lose and break our hearts every year.
Last night I just knew we would clinch, as this team just doesn't quit. The Yankees(most likely) will be tough, as I see this series going 7 games. The Phils will have to beat CC once if they want to take the title. Hammels still worries me, but Lidge atleast looks like he has turned it around.
I say Charlie should pitch Pedro in Game 2 if they play the Yanks. How great would that be for Pedro to pitch at Yankee Stadium one more time, as maybe Don Zimmer could attend the game!
CRM114
10-22-09, 09:09 AM
That series showed how much the Dodgers need to improve their lineup and pitching to compete with the Phillies. That team swept the Cardinals?
rexinnih
10-22-09, 11:33 AM
Congrats to the Phils. Let's see who they will be playing in the series.
Congrats to the Phillies. This series was mostly a mismatch...and could/should have been a sweep.
While I thought the Phillies were going to win this, I don't really see how it could/should have been a sweep despite a couple lopsided losses. The series could have easily been 2-2 going into last night if it wasn't for Broxton choking :(
CRM114
10-22-09, 03:50 PM
I will NEVER:
- eat a black jack taco
- watch that goddamned Ray Romano show
- watch ANY show with George Lopez
- EVER hold Paul McCartney in the same regard after he sold "All You Need is Love" to Blackberry and allowed them to bastardize it the way they did.
TBS really knows how to destroy viewership.
jPoD_TGN
10-23-09, 05:21 PM
You and me both.
Life is good :)
Tarantino
10-23-09, 06:08 PM
The Phillies = boring baseball.
WallyOPD
10-23-09, 06:28 PM
- EVER hold Paul McCartney in the same regard after he sold "All You Need is Love" to Blackberry and allowed them to bastardize it the way they did.
I thought Paul didn't own the publishing rights to the Beatles catalogue?
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