That video is impossible because we are told over and over that Glenn Beck is adored by all conservatives.
TheBigDave
09-23-09, 09:46 PM
An MSNBC host attacks a FOX News host?!?!?! What's the world coming to?
classicman2
09-23-09, 09:47 PM
Do you suppose part of this is Joe defending his employer?
dork
09-23-09, 09:56 PM
Do you suppose part of this is Joe defending his employer?
Beck's attacking Starbucks now? :confused:
Coffee party!
jfoobar
09-23-09, 10:09 PM
Do you suppose part of this is Joe defending his employer?
Scarborough's classic conservative credentials are pretty solid. I suppose it is not unreasonable to look for ulterior motives here, but when you see stuff like this:
GOP Congressman Targeted By 'RINO' Hunters (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113096597)
going on, it does start to look like common sense that the current lack of restraint and heavy fringe influences in the conservative movement, or revanchist conservatism to use a Sam Tanenhaus-ism, are self-destructive.
Sean O'Hara
09-23-09, 10:28 PM
It'd be easier to accept Scarborough's point if he didn't have that Neo-Nazi asshat Pat Buchanan on his show.
dork
09-23-09, 10:37 PM
Neo-Nazi asshat Pat Buchanan
That's ridiculous. -rolleyes-
"Neo"? Pat likes the traditional Nazis just fine!
kvrdave
09-23-09, 11:32 PM
If Beck doesn't change, the Republicans could lose enough seats to where they couldn't block any legislation. Oh wait, they are already there. Yeah, Republicans should go back pre Beck days. :lol:
It'd be easier to accept Scarborough's point if he didn't have that Neo-Nazi asshat Pat Buchanan on his show.
Nonsense!
dork
09-24-09, 08:54 AM
Nonsense!
No, it really would be easier.
The Bus
09-24-09, 09:41 AM
I'm sorry. The answer is wrong. We were looking for "Hogwash!" Thanks for playing, classicman2.
Groucho
09-24-09, 09:43 AM
Beck's attacking Starbucks now? :confused:Both of them? I could understand his dislike of Dirk Benedict -- but Katee Sackhoff? Beck truly is an idiot.
classicman2
09-24-09, 09:46 AM
I'm sorry. The answer is wrong. We were looking for "Hogwash!" Thanks for playing, classicman2.
Very well - hogwash!
DeputyDave
09-24-09, 11:29 AM
Scarborough's classic conservative credentials are pretty solid. I suppose it is not unreasonable to look for ulterior motives here, but when you see stuff like this:
GOP Congressman Targeted By 'RINO' Hunters (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113096597)
going on, it does start to look like common sense that the current lack of restraint and heavy fringe influences in the conservative movement, or revanchist conservatism to use a Sam Tanenhaus-ism, are self-destructive.
I don't see the problem with trying to replace members of your party that you don't think are doing a good enough job (or aren't as conservative as you want).
CRM114
09-24-09, 11:31 AM
It'd be easier to accept Scarborough's point if he didn't have that Neo-Nazi asshat Pat Buchanan on his show.
Buchanan isn't in that segment posted. Am I missing him?
Tracer Bullet
09-24-09, 12:27 PM
Very well - hogwash!
Sorry, no do-overs.
Sean O'Hara
09-24-09, 12:28 PM
Buchanan isn't in that segment posted. Am I missing him?
He's a regular on Morning Joe. If Scarborough was truly concerned with news organizations giving soap boxes to asshats, he could start fixing things by refusing to let Buchanan on. Instead he goes after a highly rated show on a rival network.
Conclusion: He's a hypocritical Republican who doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
Do you disagree?
jdodd
09-24-09, 12:31 PM
Conclusion: He's a hypocritical Republican who doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
Do any of the big name pundits deserve to be taken seriously?
Sean O'Hara
09-24-09, 01:24 PM
Do any of the big name pundits deserve to be taken seriously?
Charles Krauthammer.
classicman2
09-24-09, 01:51 PM
He's a regular on Morning Joe. If Scarborough was truly concerned with news organizations giving soap boxes to asshats, he could start fixing things by refusing to let Buchanan on. Instead he goes after a highly rated show on a rival network.
Conclusion: He's a hypocritical Republican who doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
Do you disagree?
I disagree. It's not Buchanan that's 'hurting' MSNBC.
Get rid of him, and they'll probably even have less fewers.
btw: I'm no great fan of Charles Krauthammer either.
dick_grayson
09-24-09, 02:00 PM
btw: I'm no great fan of Charles Krauthammer either.
I wasn't either until I found out that he's in a wheelchair.....
All this time, I thought he was a "sloucher."
orangecrush
09-24-09, 02:52 PM
I wasn't either until I found out that he's in a wheelchair.....
All this time, I thought he was a "sloucher.":lol:
I can't think of any mainstream pundits I take seriously, but I can think of few I take less seriously than Krauthammer. Bill Kristol may be the only one more worthless than Krauthammer.
JasonF
09-24-09, 02:56 PM
I disagree. It's not Buchanan that's 'hurting' MSNBC.
Buchanan probably isn't hurting their ratings, but he's a nativist Know Nothing whose views I find abhorrent.
creekdipper
09-24-09, 03:02 PM
Do any of the big name pundits deserve to be taken seriously?
Steve Forbes?
William Fuld
09-24-09, 03:38 PM
"Bittersweet Symphony" playing under Mike Barnicle is pretty funny.
classicman2
09-24-09, 08:09 PM
Do any of the big name pundits deserve to be taken seriously?
Is A.B. Stoddard a big name?
I take her seriously.
TheBigDave
09-24-09, 10:10 PM
Funny to hear Joe bitching about FNC hosts when stuff like this is happening on his own channel:
The only difference being that Buchanan is still on TV. Can't tell you the last time I saw Colmes.
Hank Ringworm
09-25-09, 01:50 AM
Also, Ed Schultz is kind of an idiot. I've listened to his show all this week. He's nothing new, just the personification of years of left-wing idiocy.
(To be fair, I call Glenn Beck the personification of years of right-wing idiocy.) Not sure why anyone would take either man seriously, except that Beck is slightly more engaging.
classicman2
09-25-09, 07:15 AM
Pat Buchanan is MSNBC's version of Alan Colmes.
No, Buchanan is quite capable of defending his position. Colmes wasn't.
Jason
09-25-09, 08:17 AM
Pat Buchanan is MSNBC's version of Alan Colmes.
Do you even know who Alan Colmes is? Or Pat Buchanan?
classicman2
09-25-09, 08:46 AM
Also, Ed Schultz is kind of an idiot. I've listened to his show all this week. He's nothing new, just the personification of years of left-wing idiocy.
(To be fair, I call Glenn Beck the personification of years of right-wing idiocy.) Not sure why anyone would take either man seriously, except that Beck is slightly more engaging.
Beck, at least to me, seems not to be totally believing some of the things he says. He seems to be more of an actor - a show.
Disclaimer: I've only seen him a couple of times.
sracer
09-25-09, 08:53 AM
Beck, at least to me, seems not to be totally believing some of the things he says. He seems to be more of an actor - a show.
Disclaimer: I've only seen him a couple of times.
Yep. I expect Beck to move to MSNBC or CNN when a Republican becomes president.
classicman2
09-25-09, 08:57 AM
How about - Beck is a clown - a buffoon?
It's rather telling that he claims to be a Libertarian. ;)
slop101
09-25-09, 11:40 AM
Beck, at least to me, seems not to be totally believing some of the things he says. He seems to be more of an actor - a show.
Disclaimer: I've only seen him a couple of times.I agree with this - I think his shtick is closer to someone like Colbert than it is to Hannity.
I think he believes the things he says, but he's exaggerating for dramatic effect.
DeputyDave
09-25-09, 11:52 AM
I agree with this - I think his shtick is closer to someone like Colbert than it is to Hannity.
I think he believes the things he says, but he's exaggerating for dramatic effect.
There is no doubt he believes what he's saying but he uses hyperbole and ludicrousness to get his points across. His live shows are advertised as political stand up comedy and the boiling frog incident is just an example of what he does on the air.
I loved how it was edited by Huffington Post to make it look like he killed a real frog:
Buy: