We've been approached by some studios to create a " studio forum"' and want to hear your thoughts on this.
It would be a sponsored forum solely managed & moderated by the studios to which all of you would have direct access. They would be able to promote upcoming releases but there would be no direct sales. The community would be able to ask them any legit question and get their answer straight from the source.
What do you all think?
IB steph :-)
pilot
09-22-09, 08:23 PM
I'm speaking as a member here, and not as an admin, but a big :thumbsup: in my book, and I doubt you would find many (if any) who would think this is a bad idea. I hope it would (include) some of the bigger studios and not just smaller indie ones, but, any is good in my book. Anytime the studios can interact with their customers is a big plus, as long as they listen and it's not going in one ear and out the other.
ibsteph
09-22-09, 08:46 PM
awesome.. I agree! :-)
awil1026
09-22-09, 08:48 PM
As long as we can criticize the studios (in a respectful manner).
NoirFan
09-22-09, 09:12 PM
Sure.
LorenzoL
09-22-09, 09:17 PM
As long as we can criticize the studios (in a respectful manner).
I agree. If they are asking for feedback on their products, they should be willing to accept praise and criticism. The last thing that I want is for studios to just shill their products on this forum. They should at least have one member of their studio willing to interact with us.
The Cow
09-22-09, 10:57 PM
If they actually intend on following and interacting, then I'm all for it.
Ranger
09-22-09, 11:36 PM
Wasn't this first done with howard from vivid? I don't think that worked out so well.
But I guess if there's people from major studios, then I could give it another chance.
cardsfan111
09-23-09, 12:49 AM
Sounds good. How soon might this start up?
Damfino
09-23-09, 02:00 AM
Sounds good to me.
Darth Maher
09-23-09, 11:45 AM
As long as we can criticize the studios (in a respectful manner).
I agree. If they are asking for feedback on their products, they should be willing to accept praise and criticism. The last thing that I want is for studios to just shill their products on this forum. They should at least have one member of their studio willing to interact with us.
Agreed on all accounts. I love when people directly involved with a DVD/Blu-ray release sound off here.
I was on the fence about upgrading The Monster Squad. But when Michael Felsher posted an update about what they are doing with the Blu-ray release, it made me want to run out and buy it now.
Adboy151
09-23-09, 11:56 AM
It's fine if the studios' PR departments intend to make an effort for discussion/comment/concerns about releases and not just a repository for press releases and promo events.
Groucho
09-23-09, 11:57 AM
If the studios are moderating, no doubt they'll take down anything that isn't direct praise. I'm all for this if there's a third party moderator.
ibsteph
09-23-09, 12:21 PM
Yes,we would definitely NOT be moderating this ourselves so I do imagine that any overly harsh criticism that isn't perceived as " constructive" would be deleted by them.
WallyOPD
09-23-09, 12:24 PM
Yeah, I do wonder where the line will be drawn in regards to criticism.
No commentary? That's disappointing, I was really interested in learning how they shot some of those scenes.
Another lackluster release, I guess I'll be continuing my boycott of your studio.
Wow, another shitty release from Studio X, who would have guessed it?
Mazje
09-23-09, 12:52 PM
I say do it. One, it will make the site more money and hopefully take away some of the more intrusive ads that people have been complaining about. Two, everyone will know exactly what they're getting into when they enter the forum; that it's moderated by a studio, and their harsher opinions may be deleted. However, this is balanced out by the fact that we'll still have the regular hd/dvd/movie forums, which won't be affected by this. I say "Do it!" The worst that can happen is everybody hates it, nobody posts there, and DVDtalk has made some money off the studios. Plus, even if the studios delete any "hate" posts, it at least has to mean that, at some level, SOMEONE has heard that complaint, which is more than we have now.
Tarantino
09-23-09, 01:31 PM
I guess it can't hurt, but it sucks that it will be moderated by the studios.
I doubt it will be a forum I'll frequent.
dx23
09-23-09, 03:23 PM
I think it is a good idea and opens for many things like studios getting direct feedback from the consumer and the possibility that they contribute stuff for giveaways. It could also lead to special events where forum members ask questions about future releases and unreleased stuff similar to the annual chats at the Home Theater Forum. Still, Studios should be aware that the majority of the forum members likes good movies and they are not going to take very well being shoved down their throats with a marketing promotion for a lame direct to DVD film.
Rockmjd23
09-23-09, 07:13 PM
Only if the studio's newest starlet posts a photo of herself holding a sign that says "Hi Rockmjd23"
auto
09-23-09, 07:38 PM
I have a bad feeling about this...
-popcorn-
dx23
09-24-09, 03:23 PM
Yes,we would definitely NOT be moderating this ourselves so I do imagine that any overly harsh criticism that isn't perceived as " constructive" would be deleted by them.
If they want to play with us, why do we have to play by their rules? The benefit more here from hearing us than we do from them.
abintra
09-24-09, 05:21 PM
I was on the fence about upgrading The Monster Squad. But when Michael Felsher posted an update about what they are doing with the Blu-ray release, it made me want to run out and buy it now.
I wasn't even aware of the movie before that post (other than hearing the title via osmosis) and it caused me to research it and decide to do a blind buy as long as the quality is what was implied.
As long as whomever does the interaction is able to partake in honest back and forth about their releases and their quality, I think it could bring a new element to this site.
auto
09-26-09, 06:01 PM
I have a bad feeling about this...
-popcorn-
I've changed my mind, the forum does sound pretty cool.
However, the minute anything I post gets deleted by a "studio mod" I'll be jumping into the Movie forum, posting a thread on the subject and reposting away from their authority. No problem with that, correct?
mhg83
09-26-09, 07:46 PM
This sounds like a great idea and I fully support it.
I cant wait to see Pixar Studios on here and chris_sc77 give his honest thoughts to the studio -popcorn-
LorenzoL
09-26-09, 08:08 PM
Yes,we would definitely NOT be moderating this ourselves so I do imagine that any overly harsh criticism that isn't perceived as " constructive" would be deleted by them.
If that's the case, I don't like the idea.
uberjoe
09-26-09, 08:52 PM
Only if the studio's newest starlet posts a photo of herself holding a sign that says "Hi Rockmjd23"
+1
He's earned this. It's time for the forum to step up.
Suprmallet
09-27-09, 03:17 PM
Only if the studio's newest starlet posts a photo of herself holding a sign that says "Hi Rockmjd23"
It's not that kind of studio. -ohbfrank-
I like the idea in general, but am not a fan of the studios moderating it. As has already been mentioned, there's nothing stopping them from deleting anything critical of their movies. Also, is there going to be a rep and a mod from each studio that participates? I can foresee a lot of "This movie SUCKS!" or "This studio SUCKS!" threads in the Movie Talk/DVD Review forums if the studio mods start deleting posts.
pilot
09-27-09, 03:49 PM
I would imagine they will tolerate some criticism. If those who criticize explain why they think it's not good, then I would hope they would leave it, but if people are going to simply create threads with "this studio sucks" and "this movie sucks" with no explanation of their reasoning, then they deserve to get their threads deleted. And I imagine that the regular parts of the forum will not tolerate the same sort of threads unless you're giving some sort of explanation other than "i made a thread that said it sucked and they deleted it. now i'm making a thread in movie talk because they still suck" I would say the same rules in the studio forum will apply for the regular. If you're threadcrapping or breaking the rules, :wave: :banned: and suspensions will apply. (AFAIK, We've (mods/admins) had no discussions with regards to anything related to the studio forums, maybe X has with IB, but this post is just my opinion which is basically common sense.)
pedagogue
09-27-09, 10:46 PM
Studio moderated place for them to post things.......it sounds like indirect advertising, which is just a step below banners and in some cases worse because it will look like a legitimate discussion.
Put me on the NO list.
RyoHazuki
09-28-09, 12:38 AM
They need a forum to promote upcoming releases? Doesn't sound like much interaction. In theory it could work but I don't see it benefitting the readers of dvdtalk much at all.
UAIOE
09-28-09, 03:07 AM
If they want to play with us, why do we have to play by their rules? The benefit more here from hearing us than we do from them.
I have to agree with this.
The Bus
09-28-09, 11:21 AM
I'd be ok with there being moderation as long as it's the type of comment that wouldn't be OK, say, in a console-specific thread in Video Game talk. i.e. "MGM sux fox 4eva!!!!one"
Suprmallet
09-28-09, 03:36 PM
I would imagine they will tolerate some criticism. If those who criticize explain why they think it's not good, then I would hope they would leave it, but if people are going to simply create threads with "this studio sucks" and "this movie sucks" with no explanation of their reasoning, then they deserve to get their threads deleted. And I imagine that the regular parts of the forum will not tolerate the same sort of threads unless you're giving some sort of explanation other than "i made a thread that said it sucked and they deleted it. now i'm making a thread in movie talk because they still suck" I would say the same rules in the studio forum will apply for the regular. If you're threadcrapping or breaking the rules, :wave: :banned: and suspensions will apply. (AFAIK, We've (mods/admins) had no discussions with regards to anything related to the studio forums, maybe X has with IB, but this post is just my opinion which is basically common sense.)
I agree that people need to follow the rules wherever they may post on DVD Talk, but I guess I'm just a pessimist and see problems arising from studios doing their own moderating.
fumanstan
09-28-09, 04:08 PM
Sounds good to me. I don't really care if they moderate as long as they allow constructive criticism. Plenty of folks here will probably try and play mini mod regardless.
ibsteph
09-28-09, 07:02 PM
Just to let you guys know so far we are leaning towards the smaller and midsize studios who have shown us the most interest. Of course our door remains open for the big ones to join as well.. :-)
Numanoid
09-30-09, 12:19 AM
I, for one, can't wait for the folks from The Asylum to start shilling Transmorphers: Fall of Man in person!
E. Honda
09-30-09, 06:58 AM
i demand that the first studio allowed in be Disney so we can grill them as to why they havent released Song of the South on DVD or Blu!
Lunatikk
10-05-09, 01:28 PM
i demand that the first studio allowed in be Disney so we can grill them as to why they havent released Song of the South on DVD or Blu!
It is. There are always countless ads for Song of the South on DVD Talk!
arminius
10-05-09, 10:45 PM
It is. There are always countless ads for Song of the South on DVD Talk!
Thats right and it must be legit, they would never allow bootlegs here. Right?
mndtrp
10-05-09, 11:34 PM
Will there be one forum with multiple studios, or separate forums for each studio? It would seem that there will either be multiple studios with mod ability in one forum, or there would just be several forums to wade through.
As long as these studios actually interact with us, and are able to handle the majority of a site possibly turning on a movie, I don't see a problem. If things go haywire, I'll just avoid the forums.
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