by the way, this release just plain sucks, starting from the pointless cover down to the already available extras. This is just a Christmas cash cow.
dolphinboy
09-22-09, 07:38 PM
For someone who hasn't seen the film and knows nothing about it or the comics, or than the movie was well reviewed, can someone explain to me what this is about?
Merging comics into the film? I totally don't understand why you'd want anything interrupting the viewing of a movie?
I mean, if Iron man played for 20 minutes and then it cut to a cartoon for 5 minutes (even a really great cartoon), I'd be taken out of the movie.
I totally don't get what this ultimate cut is trying to do or why it would be better than the actual film without any comic footage put in.
fumanstan
09-22-09, 07:43 PM
For someone who hasn't seen the film and knows nothing about it or the comics, or than the movie was well reviewed, can someone explain to me what this is about?
Merging comics into the film? I totally don't understand why you'd want anything interrupting the viewing of a movie?
I mean, if Iron man played for 20 minutes and then it cut to a cartoon for 5 minutes (even a really great cartoon), I'd be taken out of the movie.
I totally don't get what this ultimate cut is trying to do or why it would be better than the actual film without any comic footage put in.
Basically, that's the way it was in the comic book. There's a comic being read by one of the characters in the book that kind of runs parallel with the main story, so there are little excerpts of a comic book throughout the entire Watchmen book. This was cut from the movie and made into a separate animated feature, and this release adds it back in to match the comic book more.
Zen Peckinpah
09-22-09, 07:44 PM
Meh. I'll stick to the DC version.
stingermck
09-22-09, 08:08 PM
Having the movie, Under the Hood, Motion comic, and Black Freighter all in one sounds nice to me, But that damn cover...
dolphinboy
09-22-09, 08:34 PM
Basically, that's the way it was in the comic book. There's a comic being read by one of the characters in the book that kind of runs parallel with the main story, so there are little excerpts of a comic book throughout the entire Watchmen book. This was cut from the movie and made into a separate animated feature, and this release adds it back in to match the comic book more.
For someone who isn't familiar with the comics or the story, do you think this will add to the already available film only version or is it likely to be distracting to people just looking to watch a very good super-hero movie?
I put off on buying this, because I wanted to wait for this ultimate edition, but now, the way that it sounds, I think for me, I might be better off ordering the existing version.
Thanks.
GizmoDVD
09-22-09, 08:35 PM
Still have my Blu-ray sealed...so pass.
Torchur317
09-22-09, 08:54 PM
Wow, that's lame....
I already own the DC BR & Under the Hood/Black Freighter BR so this is a huge pass for me.
I only need the Motion comic but I'm really in no rush to get that....
kstublen
09-22-09, 09:23 PM
That cover art is atrocious. It almost makes me want to not buy it.
EDIT: On second glance, the package itself looks nice at least. And it looks as though the ugly "Digital Copy" Banner will not be on the outermost cover.
ozzfan84
09-22-09, 09:29 PM
What a terrible cover.
Josh-da-man
09-23-09, 01:10 AM
Fucking lame-assed cover. :down:
Should have gotten someone like Alex Ross to paint one.
Looks to be a fairly disappointing release, though I might pick it up for the Dave Gibbons commentary. I don't have the Motion Comic (ho-hum) or Under the Hood, either, so it might be worth it.
I had planned on getting this on Blu-ray, but I might save some $$$ and just get the DVD instead.
I do wonder what the disc-by-disc breakdown is...
1. Movie
2. Bonus Features
3. Under the Hood
4/5. Motion Comic?
I wonder if they won't release discs 1, 2 (and maybe 3) later in a seperate package, since it appears that they're just sticking leftover Motion Comic DVDs/Blu-rays into a slipcover with a 3-disc package of movie/bonus features into the "Limited" set.
Labor
09-23-09, 01:32 AM
Fucking lame-assed cover. :down:
Should have gotten someone like Alex Ross to paint one.
Looks to be a fairly disappointing release, though I might pick it up for the Dave Gibbons commentary. I don't have the Motion Comic (ho-hum) or Under the Hood, either, so it might be worth it.
I had planned on getting this on Blu-ray, but I might save some $$$ and just get the DVD instead.
I do wonder what the disc-by-disc breakdown is...
1. Movie
2. Bonus Features
3. Under the Hood
4/5. Motion Comic?
I wonder if they won't release discs 1, 2 (and maybe 3) later in a seperate package, since it appears that they're just sticking leftover Motion Comic DVDs/Blu-rays into a slipcover with a 3-disc package of movie/bonus features into the "Limited" set.
1. Movie
2. Bonus Features
3. Digital Copy
4. Motion Comic
only 4 discs on Blu-Ray
RocShemp
09-23-09, 03:30 AM
Why is everybody shocked by the contents of this release? All this info was posted in the thread for the DC months ago. We already knew the special features (or lack thereof) suck in this release.
The only thing new is that godawful cover. What the hell were they thinking?! Couldn't they have just used the cover of the first issue where it's an extreme closeup of the smiley face with a drop of blood on it?
EDIT: It's interesting that this will be a Dolby TrueHD release whereas the DC version was DTS-HD MA. I wonder how the DTS crowd will feel about this after many proclaimed that Watchmen was proof that Warner Bros. had abandoned Dolby Digital in favor of DTS?
Suprmallet
09-23-09, 04:16 AM
The cover art makes almost no sense.
Almost
I'm not going to lie. The first thing I thought when I read that comment was that the cover art was of Rorschach raping Richard Nixon. Yeah, I said it.
EDIT: It's interesting that this will be a Dolby TrueHD release whereas the DC version was DTS-HD MA. I wonder how the DTS crowd will feel about this after many proclaimed that Watchmen was proof that Warner Bros. had abandoned Dolby Digital in favor of DTS?
Well, I have yet to buy this on any format (no blu-ray player... yet). This makes me feel like going ahead and buying the director's cut on DVD. Prices are dropping nice. And I bet the Black Frieghter DVD will get to $1 on Amazon soon. And when I finally get the BR player, boom, I'll check this out with a buy on it. I'd be curious to see what that's like, all meshed together...
I read the graphic novel a long time ago and no movie will compare to that experience, so if you have not read it or seen this movie: Read the book. This DVD and BR stuff is just extras (though, yeah, I liked the movie and look forward to watching it again. The wife even liked it!).
rexinnih
09-23-09, 10:10 AM
I still haven't seen the the motion comic or BF. I enjoyed the movie and have the BD. This will be enough for the time being and will get around to Netflixing this to see if it's worth an upgrade.
mdc3000
09-23-09, 10:15 AM
If I hadn't already bought the Motion Comic on BD, I might consider this, but unless I can sell my copy for a decent price, I'll skip this... especially because of the horrible cover and I thought Black freighter was just OK.
Yavin
09-23-09, 10:19 AM
^ Same here. The Tales of the Black Freighter BD can be had for about $15-$16 now, but still, I can't bring myself to pay more than $10 for what is just a 25 minute animated film and Under the Hood.
fumanstan
09-23-09, 10:59 AM
For someone who isn't familiar with the comics or the story, do you think this will add to the already available film only version or is it likely to be distracting to people just looking to watch a very good super-hero movie?
I put off on buying this, because I wanted to wait for this ultimate edition, but now, the way that it sounds, I think for me, I might be better off ordering the existing version.
Thanks.
Personally, I think it might be distracting. But then again I never cared for those parts in the actual comic. :)
Chew
09-23-09, 11:47 AM
I already had the DC and Motion Comic on BD.
With this news, I just went ahead and got a used copy of Freighter on BD from Half for $8 shipped.
Maybe the full version with Freighter edited in will show up on Netflix Instant some day.
slop101
09-23-09, 12:07 PM
No reason for me to get this.
I have the DC and BlackFreighter on bluray already.
(and I honestly don't think it would blend too well with the movie)
I even got the theatrical cut on SDdvd.
And since I have the Absolute Watchmen book, I couldn't care less about the motion comic.
kenbenobi
09-23-09, 12:27 PM
Wait, were there pirates in this movie? That's like the Jolly Roger version of Watchmen. I don't get it. Strange choice for the cover art. Now I understand why you guys don't like it...
GenPion
09-23-09, 01:17 PM
Pass. I didn't even like the film though, so it was pretty much a given... anyway, that cover art IS terrible. I wonder how many people they hope to trick into buying this with that "THE COMPLETE STORY" bit on it?
WMAangel
09-23-09, 01:40 PM
Wait, were there pirates in this movie? That's like the Jolly Roger version of Watchmen. I don't get it. Strange choice for the cover art. Now I understand why you guys don't like it...
I guess someone has never read the source material/graphic novel before, or heard of or watched the standalone release of "Tales Of The Black Freighter"....
Unless your post was meant as :sarcasm:
SomethingMore
09-23-09, 02:51 PM
I already own the DC and Motion Comic on Blu-ray. I'll sell off the Motion Comic and buy this new set.
Yes, the cover is horrible, but I'm excited for the Ultimate Cut. I've never seen Tales of the Black Freighter, and I think I'd prefer to watch it cut into the rest of the film.
RocShemp
09-23-09, 04:14 PM
I wonder if this'd be available to rent in the mom & pop rental near me. I never bought the DC in case this turned out better than advertised but it seems it's all dependant on how well they pull off the new cut. I have no interest in the motion comic and only mildy curious about Under The Hood.
fumanstan
09-23-09, 04:32 PM
Why is everybody shocked by the contents of this release? All this info was posted in the thread for the DC months ago. We already knew the special features (or lack thereof) suck in this release.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. I thought it was known back when the DC came out that the Ultimate Cut wasn't going to add significantly more.
I got Black Frieghter for $5 from the wbshop.com pre-order deal for the Director's Cut, so I'm happy with what I have and I don't have any interest in the Motion Comic so I guess i'm good with what I have.
WMAangel
09-23-09, 07:23 PM
I got Black Frieghter for $5 from the wbshop.com pre-order deal for the Director's Cut, so I'm happy with what I have and I don't have any interest in the Motion Comic so I guess i'm good with what I have.
Same here...I added up the running times of the already released Director's Cut BD and the TOTBF, and it looks like this new "Ultimate Cut" only runs approximately 3 minutes longer, so I don't think footage-wise anything else worthwhile is being added that I will miss out on....and I never really have time to listen to any audio commentaries as it is, so I don't feel bad about not getting that either....
bluetoast
09-23-09, 08:22 PM
Those three minutes will probably be comprised of scenes with the two Bernies.
kms_md
09-23-09, 09:13 PM
although i will end up buying it (yes, i am a watchmen fanboy), the cover is horrific and seems to ignore what purpose the smiley-face smeared with blood served. it goes against the grain of the story, IMHO.
Jeffy Pop
09-24-09, 12:29 AM
The only thing new is that godawful cover. What the hell were they thinking?! Couldn't they have just used the cover of the first issue where it's an extreme closeup of the smiley face with a drop of blood on it?
I remember reading something a while back - not sure if it's true but - the smiley face is actually a trademarked image. So every time it's used prominently for marketing purposes, they have to pay for the rights to use it. Maybe someone can correct me or clarify if I'm mistaken....
bluetoast
09-24-09, 02:00 AM
I have heard the same thing, and in fact in the credits I believe they acknowledge the trademark.
RocShemp
09-24-09, 02:28 AM
I remember reading something a while back - not sure if it's true but - the smiley face is actually a trademarked image. So every time it's used prominently for marketing purposes, they have to pay for the rights to use it. Maybe someone can correct me or clarify if I'm mistaken....
You're not mistaken. However, the cover of the first issue is just a yellow image with a black oval and a splotch of blood. It's such an extreme close-up you can't really identify it as the smiley face. That was the brilliance of that cover. That's what they should have used as the cover of this release.
joefrog91
09-26-09, 02:58 PM
I'll get it because I've been waiting for it. Didn't buy any of the separate BDs.
Gdrlv
09-26-09, 11:28 PM
although i will end up buying it (yes, i am a watchmen fanboy), the cover is horrific and seems to ignore what purpose the smiley-face smeared with blood served. it goes against the grain of the story, IMHO.
I am also a Watchmen fanboy. Hate the cover. I'm going to try to force myself not to buy it. But I probably still will.
RocShemp
09-27-09, 12:54 AM
I'm not going to lie. The first thing I thought when I read that comment was that the cover art was of Rorschach raping Richard Nixon. Yeah, I said it.
Revisiting Watchmen with The Complete Ultimate Edition - Just got it from Amazon's $30.99 Pre-Order Cost (for some odd reason it arrive yesterday on my end)
Looks pretty sweet. Can't wait for the price to plummet after the holidays. :up:
Robert
11-22-09, 03:55 PM
Looks pretty sweet. Can't wait for the price to plummet after the holidays. :up:
Its limited to 70,000 copies. Why would the price go down?
Suprmallet
11-22-09, 04:50 PM
I have a feeling I'll be able to get a used copy for $15-$20 after the holiday season. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm willing to take that chance.
MBoyd
11-22-09, 05:46 PM
The outer case kind of sucks. I took the shrink wrap off and there were already some white dings in it. Don't think it will hold up with a lot of handling.
Labor
11-22-09, 10:20 PM
The outer case kind of sucks. I took the shrink wrap off and there were already some white dings in it. Don't think it will hold up with a lot of handling.
Yeah mine had plenty as well.
Is this widespread? Im considering returning it for another copy whenever my local stores get more stock due to how unsightly it is.
The Valeyard
11-23-09, 05:47 AM
I'm hoping they release the Ultimate Cut as a single disc because I own everything else on the other discs.
DirkUSA
11-23-09, 10:55 AM
I ordered one from DeepDiscount for $25.86 but it's on backorder. Let's see if they get them back into stock or not.
jmj713
11-23-09, 11:09 AM
I ordered one from DeepDiscount for $25.86 but it's on backorder. Let's see if they get them back into stock or not.
So did I. It's been a while...
nycdude
11-24-09, 12:15 AM
I ordered one from DeepDiscount for $25.86 but it's on backorder. Let's see if they get them back into stock or not.
same here.
Brent L
11-24-09, 12:51 AM
I ordered mine from DVDPlanet and it's still OOS also.
eedoon
11-24-09, 02:06 AM
got this last week. It looks pretty sweet but I kinda prefer standard cases (like what they use in the UK release for The Prisoners)
KillerCannibal
11-24-09, 01:38 PM
I've been to 3 BB's and still haven't seen this. Not sure if I'd even buy it, but it's bizarre I can't even find the damn thing.
Buy: