Politics Sheep: 4th Term

[JasonF]

By popular demand, it's ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/PolSheepFinal.jpg

Never played before? Here's some praise for the game:

"These things are the most fun way to waste time at work since GemCraft." - maxfisher

"This is the most stirring display of gallantry and sportsmanship since Mountbatten gave India back to the Punjabs." - wishbone

"These have been really fun." - Tracer Bullet

"I would like to take this opportunity to thank The Bus for quite possibly the funniest commentary of any of the sheep games." - orangecrush18


<ul>Rules<br>
<li> The object of the game is to out-think everyone by picking answers to questions that are the most common (<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">Sheep</font>) or least common (<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">Reverse Sheep</font>), but still correct.
<li> Example <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">Sheep</font> question: "Name a unit of currency." A good answer would be the U.S. dollar and a bad answer might be the Uruguayan peso.
<li> Example <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">Reverse Sheep</font> question: "Name a current member of the cabinet". Hillary Clinton might be a bad answer, but Shaun Donovan might be a good answer. (Unless you think everyone else is trying to go as obscure as possible, in which case you might outsmart them by naming Hillary Clinton).
<li> Sheep scores are tallied as negative numbers. Reverse Sheep scores are tallied as positive numbers. The lowest score wins.
<li> The answers to each question are tallied up. Wrong answers in Reverse Sheep are scored two points above the most common answer. This penalty is multiplied by the Lightning Round Multiplier. Wrong answers in Sheep are not penalized.
<li> Certain rounds are considered Lightning Rounds (designated by a multiplier, such as ×2). In these rounds, scores are adjusted by the <u>number on the multiplier</u>. A wrong answer still gets a +4 penalty in a ×2 round and a +6 penalty in a ×3 round, and so on. In a sheep round, a wrong answer scores normally.
<li> The assumption is that you will not use Google, Wikipedia, etc. You may choose to do so. However, if you so choose, you must indicate each answer for which you have used an outside resource by placing an asterisk (*) before the answer. You will be penalized one point for your first asterisked answer, two points for your second asterisked answer, four points for your third asterisked answer, and so on.
<li> Please send in your answers to me via PM. Place only one answer per line, without numbers or the question itself. Those who do not do this will be penalized 10 points right off the bat.
<li> Note: Be creative with your answers, but don't be stupid.
<li> Sheep questions are marked by an <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font>, Reverse Sheep questions are marked by an <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font>.
<li> Unique Bonus: Reverse Sheep questions will generate additional bonus (negative) points if we have at least 25 entrants and there are less than 6 people with unique answers according to the following:
1 Unique is awarded -15
2 Uniques are awarded -10 each
3 Uniques are awarded -6 each
4 Uniques are awarded -3 each
5 Uniques are awarded -1 each
<li> To assist you in submitting your answers, a spreadsheep is available here (http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tBM51XPLyiaq4kOi6eq4Umg). Thanks to Groucho for preparing it.
</ul>

<ol><u>The Questions</u><br>
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> ×2 Name someone who has served as Chief Justice of the United States
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> Name a current federal judge who has never been nominated to the Supreme Court.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> Besides the Star Spangled Banner, name a patriotic song (hint: most of our players are from the U.S.)
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> Name a network known for its news coverage.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> Lots of people vied for the Republican and Democratic nomination for the presidency in 2008. Name one of them.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> Lots of people ran for president in 2008 on a ticket other than Democratic or Republican. Name one of those people.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> Name a battle in the U.S. Civil War in which there were 10,000 or more casualties (combined, both sides)
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> ×2 Name a country that has had a revolution in the last decade.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> Besides China, name a country in Asia.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> ×3 Give me the name of any country's national anthem.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> Name a country with a higher per capita GDP than the U.S.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> Name a defense contractor.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> Name a state that borders Canada.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> Name a member of the Warsaw Pact
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> The 111th Congress is facing many pressing issues. Which one is most important?
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> The Heritage Foundation publishes an Index of Economic Freedom. Countries with a score of 70 or higher are considered free or mostly free. Name one of those countries.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> 13 leaders participated in the recent G8 summit in L'Aquila, Italy. Name one of them.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> ×2 Name one of the purposes for which We the People did ordain and establish the Constitution of the United States of America
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> ×2 Name a general, past or present.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> ×3 The standard expenditures approach to calculating GDP represents GDP as a function of five variables. Tell me what one of those five variables represents.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> ×3 If you were to ask people to name all the presidents, which one would most people have the hardest time remembering?
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> ×4 We all know the original 13 colonies. Name one of the next 13 states after that (that is, states #14 through 26) to join the Union.
<li> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> ×5 What American who has never been President has had the greatest influence on the U.S.?</ol>

I will allow answers through 5:00 PM EDT Wednesday, July 22, or until we hit 40-or-so players, whichever comes first. Results will be posted at some point after July 22, depending on how quickly the NORAD computers can tabulate the results.

[Venusian]

sweet!

[Venusian]

do i get bonus points for the first one to turn in answers?*


*if someone else turned in answers before me, ignore the suggestion, its stupid

[wendersfan]

Excellent questions, BTW.

[Red Dog]

For #11, which way - nominal or the other way? I got fucked on that last time.

[orangecrush]

I won't be able to get answers in until Monday. I hope I won't be too late.*




*If my answers are not accepted, I will just assume JasonF is afraid of losing to me.

[Pharoh]

I won't be able to get answers in until Monday. I hope I won't be too late.*




*If my answers are not accepted, I will just assume JasonF is afraid of losing to me.

I'll answer for you.
;)



And I won't get my answers in until tomorrow or Friday at the earliest. I am in though.

[JasonF]

do i get bonus points for the first one to turn in answers?*


*if someone else turned in answers before me, ignore the suggestion, its stupid

I locked in my own answers before I posted this, just to avoid any accusations that I might be cheating. So I hereby award myself enough bonus points to ensure I defeat orangecrush and the Bus.

You were the first non-me entrant, though. I hereby award you one half of one bonus point (to be awarded at the end of the game just to make scorekeeping easier). Offer void if you wind up tied with someone.

[JasonF]

For #11, which way - nominal or the other way? I got fucked on that last time.

Let's say either way. I'm also going to accept any of the "Big 3" analyses of GDP (IMF/CIA Factbook/World Bank). We're still only talking about a universe of two dozen or so countries.

[JasonF]

Excellent questions, BTW.

Thank ewe!

[wendersfan]

And I won't get my answers in until tomorrow or Friday at the earliest.I know people say conservatives are living in the past, but :hscratch:

;)

[CRM114]

I'm in. Not very confident but I'm in.

[CRM114]

I'll answer for you.
;)



And I won't get my answers in until tomorrow or Friday at the earliest. I am in though.

C'mon. It takes 10 minutes. I was collaborating with a coworker on work stuff AND answering questions at the same time. :)

[The Bus]

Great questions! I'm in.

[belboz]

# R: ×2 Name one of the purposes for which We the People did ordain and establish the Constitution of the United States of America

Thanks. You've got the song stuck in my head now =/

[The Bus]

How is GDP being measured? Nominal? Purchasing-power-parity?

[Red Dog]

How is GDP being measured? Nominal? Purchasing-power-parity?

He already answered above: either way.

[JasonF]

How is GDP being measured? Nominal? Purchasing-power-parity?

Either way. See my response to Red Dog at Post #9.

Can you send me whatever spreadsheets/macros you have worked up?

[Tracer Bullet]

Awesome! I'm in. Expect my PM soon.

[Groucho]

Is this the first game to have the "you can google" rule? Or is this just the first time I've noticed it?

[The Bus]

I was thinking of #19 as a great question for Round 4. :up:

[The Bus]

Is #22 supposed to be a reverse?

[JasonF]

Is this the first game to have the "you can google" rule? Or is this just the first time I've noticed it?

I did it in Comic Book Sheep, but I don't think anybody else has imported it into their own Sheep games.

[JasonF]

Is #22 supposed to be a reverse?

Yes. Do you think it won't work as a reverse?

To clarify, I'm looking for states #14-26, not states #51-63. Anyone who misunderstood can feel free to resubmit.

[CRM114]

Is this the first game to have the "you can google" rule? Or is this just the first time I've noticed it?

Damn. I didn't read the rules. WTF. :lol:

[Thor Simpson]

I'm in it to win it.

[The Bus]

I will change my answer from "Federated States of Micronesia" then. :lol:

[Jeremy517]

Is this the first game to have the "you can google" rule? Or is this just the first time I've noticed it?

One of the Video Game Sheep games allowed you to Google one question.

[Tracer Bullet]

No spreadsheet? :(

[wmansir]

Do google penalties get multiplied on lightning questions?

I think using the google option for a RS question should forfeit unique bonus points.

I also think the scoring system for these games is completely backwards, but it's a bit late now.

[JasonF]

No spreadsheet? :(

Google Docs was giving me trouble earlier today. I'll try to throw one up when I get home tonight.

[Groucho]

Google Spreadsheet (http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tCE08Jn5fIQEvhpe4f8UcSA) (no frills version, but it'll do)

[JasonF]

Do google penalties get multiplied on lightning questions?

I think using the google option for a RS question should forfeit unique bonus points.

Good points that I will adopt for next time, but given that people have already submitted their answers in reliance on the rules I laid out, I'm not inclined to implement them this round.

[Tracer Bullet]

Good points that I will adopt for next time, but given that people have already submitted their answers in reliance on the rules I laid out, I'm not inclined to implement them this round.

Oh crap, you're a lawyer

[JasonF]

Important! Groucho's spreadsheet was missing the first question. I have updated the link in the first post, but be aware if you follow the link in Groucho's post.

[Rockmjd23]

21 is a tough one. You have to pick someone obscure but not too obscure that no one else here remembers them.

[Thor Simpson]

21 is a tough one. You have to pick someone obscure but not too obscure that no one else here remembers them.

Or just assume everyone else is an idiot and base your answer on that. :shrug:

[Tracer Bullet]

You're kidding with #2, right?

[JasonF]

You're kidding with #2, right?

I don't joke around when it comes to Sheep!

(But based on the submissions so far, probably not my best question).

[Groucho]

Important! Groucho's spreadsheet was missing the first question. I have updated the link in the first post, but be aware if you follow the link in Groucho's post.Oops, sorry folks. I've fixed my spreadsheet in case somebody else tries to access it.

[wendersfan]

You're kidding with #2, right?What was wrong with #2? I thought that was an easy question - one of the easiest.

[Tracer Bullet]

What was wrong with #2? I thought that was an easy question - one of the easiest.

Not all of us are law geeks. I couldn't think of one federal judge.

[wendersfan]

Not all of us are law geeks. I couldn't think of one federal judge.I'm not a law geek. On of my friend's mom is a federal judge. :)

[Tracer Bullet]

I'm not a law geek. On of my friend's mom is a federal judge. :)

Hey, that should be viewed worse than Google. :mad:

[CRM114]

Bush just appointed two justices to the Supreme Court and there were many names bandied about this forum. I remembered one. But I could be wrong.

This could be a good question to use the Google exemption.

[JasonF]

As long as wendersfan's friend isn't Sergey Brin, it's allowed.

Hey, for all I know, one of our members is the guy at the Heritage Foundation in charge of calculating the Index of Economic Freedom. Who knows what knowledge people have. Besides, it's a sheep question, so unless his friend's mother is a well-known judge, it won't give him an advantage, and if she is a well-known judge, he might well have known her name anyway.

[The Bus]

Here's hoping someone else answered with a very common last name.

*cough*

[JasonF]

Here's hoping someone else answered with a very common last name.

*cough*

Maybe you ought to see a doctor about that throat. ;)

[wendersfan]

Besides, it's a sheep question, so unless his friend's mother is a well-known judge, it won't give him an advantage, and if she is a well-known judge, he might well have known her name anyway.
I knew her name anyway. It just took me less time to remember her first name.

[Pharoh]

Here's hoping someone else answered with a very common last name.

*cough*

I just answered the black guy.

[Pharoh]

I know people say conservatives are living in the past, but :hscratch:

;)


:lol:

I am supposed to remember what day it is now?






And I don't even know what to identify myself as anymore.
:shrug:

[Red Dog]

You're kidding with #2, right?

Believe me - that question is harder for me than the rest of you. I have no clue what you blobs know. I might only match JasonF on this.

I've thrown a number of federal judge names around this forum.

[wishbone]

http://i31.tinypic.com/oj1ikw.jpg

In.

[Merkin Muffley]

If scoring a 5 on the AP U.S. History exam was one of the highest points of my life, then struggling to answer these damn questions must surely be my lowest.

[Venusian]

I just answered the black guy.

:up:

:lol:

[wendersfan]

Believe me - that question is harder for me than the rest of you. I have no clue what you blobs know.:grunt:

Who you callin' a blob, buster?

:lol:

[Tracer Bullet]

I used my Google exemption #2. Only question I had to.

I just hope my strategy was sound...

[Thor Simpson]

There is a google exemption?!

[JasonF]

There is a google exemption?!

<ul><li> The assumption is that you will not use Google, Wikipedia, etc. You may choose to do so. However, if you so choose, you must indicate each answer for which you have used an outside resource by placing an asterisk (*) before the answer. You will be penalized one point for your first asterisked answer, two points for your second asterisked answer, four points for your third asterisked answer, and so on.</ul>

[Thor Simpson]

Rules, schmules. I'm gonna win again.

[JasonF]

Here's a not-so-hypothetical hypothetical question.

Let's say one of the Sheep questions was "Name a President depicted on Mt. Rushmore." There are four correct answers -- George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt.

Now, let's say somebody sent in "Abraham Jefferson" as their answer.

My first inclination was to count that as wrong (since it's a sheep question, that just means it wouldn't match anything). A little disappointing to those people who answered with Lincoln or Jefferson and would have had one more match, but it is what it is.

However, there have been three people who sent in ambiguous answers. In each case, I have PM'ed the person and said "You need to be more specific in your answer to _____________."

So is it unfair of me to just mark the Abraham Jefferson answer as wrong when I've given people who said ambiguous things a chance to clarify? After all, "Abraham Jefferson" is not wrong in the way that, say "Jimmy Carter" would be. Carter is not on Mount Rushmore. It's a wrong answer. On the other hand, the person who said Abraham Jefferson probably meant either Lincoln or Jefferson, either one of which would be a right answer.

I think the answer is that there's a difference between ambiguous and wrong, so it's not unfair of me to treat the two differently. But I guess you can all take this as an opportunity to double-check the answers you sent me to make sure you don't have your own "Abrahm Jefferson" situation.

[Venusian]

Seems like extra work for you. I'd say it is wrong, not just ambiguous.

[Flashback]

In - this is going to be bad since many reverse I knew 1 or 2 answers or just guessed.

Hoping my #2 comes through due to past sheep answers that were winners but incorrect. ;) And I can only name one anyway :lol:

[wishbone]

Now, let's say somebody sent in "Abraham Jefferson" as their answer.http://i29.tinypic.com/30w09xf.jpg

I'll go ahead and get the George Jefferson post out of the way.

As you were.

[Venusian]

hmm...checked my answers. I gave only last names for a lot of them. I'd say if you were willing to give them the beneift of the doubt, mark it as Jefferson because if they had just said "Jefferson" you would have counted it.

[Tracer Bullet]

JasonF, as someone who's run four of these things, I can tell you that it's
tell you that it's much easier when you give people the benefit of the doubt.

[Red Dog]

JasonF, as someone who's run four of these things, I can tell you that it's
tell you that it's much easier when you give people the benefit of the doubt.

Unless you answer Borg.

[wishbone]

:lol:

[Tracer Bullet]

Unless you answer Borg.

:lol: It's like you have Borg Controversy radar

[JasonF]

JasonF, as someone who's run four of these things, I can tell you that it's
tell you that it's much easier when you give people the benefit of the doubt.

The problem is that this is an answer where the benefit of the doubt could mean that they meant one of two different things, either one of which would be a correct answer, and either one of which would give them (and the other people who answered one of those two things) a different score. It's not quite as simple as screwing up a first name.

It's more like if the question were "Name one of the two major treaty organizations of the Cold War" and they said "North Atlantic Pact." Do they mean NATO or do they mean the Warsaw Pact?

Like I said, I'm inclined to mark it as wrong unless they send me a correction. If they don't, we can all laugh and point when the results are announced.

[JasonF]

Also, it occurs to me that when I ran Comic Book Sheep, the Bus submitted as one of his answers something like "That recent World War involving all the Marvel superheroes." Marvel had recently done an event called World War Hulk and another called Civil War. I assumed the Bus meant World War Hulk and gave him the benefit of the doubt rather than simply marking it wrong, but it turned out he had meant Civil War.

What is a sheepmaster to do?

[Rockmjd23]

PM them for clarification, and if they don't respond it's a wrong answer for Reverse Sheep and just a bad answer for Sheep.

[Tracer Bullet]

The problem is that this is an answer where the benefit of the doubt could mean that they meant one of two different things, either one of which would be a correct answer, and either one of which would give them (and the other people who answered one of those two things) a different score. It's not quite as simple as screwing up a first name.

It's more like if the question were "Name one of the two major treaty organizations of the Cold War" and they said "North Atlantic Pact." Do they mean NATO or do they mean the Warsaw Pact?

Like I said, I'm inclined to mark it as wrong unless they send me a correction. If they don't, we can all laugh and point when the results are announced.

In that sort of situation I would count it as a separate answer (see the The Simpsons Game/A Simpsons Game/Simpsons Game nonsense from TV Talk 1).

[JasonF]

Do google penalties get multiplied on lightning questions?

I think using the google option for a RS question should forfeit unique bonus points.

I also think the scoring system for these games is completely backwards, but it's a bit late now.

I have arbitrarily decided that Google penalties do not get multiplied on Lightning Rounds, but Googled answers are not eligible for the unique bonus. They still count as being unique answers for purposes of determining how many unique answers there were; it is just that the Googler does not get points.

So it has been written, so it shall be done.

[JasonF]

I decided to e-mail the relevant player and tell him that the Abrahm Jefferson hypothetical was in reference to one of his answers. I did not tell him which answer. We will see if he figures it out and changes his answer; if not, it will only match another "Abraham Jefferson," should anyone else submit that answer.

All you people who answered with Abraham Lincoln or Thomas Jefferson, get ready to grumble that he really meant to match your answer and so you should get the extra point.

[JasonF]

I've clarfiied the phrasing of Question #6. We're looking for a candidate, not a party. Almost everyone figured that out, but one of you just got a PM from me on this.

[Funkpie]

PM them for clarification, and if they don't respond it's a wrong answer for Reverse Sheep and just a bad answer for Sheep.

I introduced the sheep games to the taper board I frequent, and I did the same.

/in

edit: you find out really quick how difficult it can be to run these games, especially for reverse sheep questions. thanks for putting it together.

[Groucho]

I introduced the sheep games to the taper board I frequent, and I did the same.

/inhttp://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5636/tapir9545972.jpg

[JasonF]

Note that question 17 is looking for a leader (hint hint).

[Funkpie]

yes that's us, the folks who get to shows early, hush the crowd around us, and have more money invested in our gear bag than in our cars, the tapirs rotfl

[Flashback]

Thanks JasonF - I read the question incorrectly. I sent you a new one.

[Thor Simpson]

Are there state matching bonuses based on a quadratic formula?

[JasonF]

Are there state matching bonuses based on a quadratic formula?

Yes. They are based on the formula ax^2+bx+c, where x is the number of times you matched a state in your answer and a, b, and c are all equal to zero.

[Tracer Bullet]

Yes. They are based on the formula ax^2+bx+c, where x is the number of times you matched a state in your answer and a, b, and c are all equal to zero.

:lol:

[orangecrush]

Just sent in my answers. All around very good questions. I really do like the option of google w/ penalty. I think multiplying the penalty could also add a nice element to the google strategy.

[Red Dog]

So is this starting soon?

[JasonF]

So is this starting soon?

I'm planning to run results on Thursday and Friday. I'm in and out of meetings so much today through Wednesday that I won't have a chance to do anything before then.

[Tracer Bullet]

I'm planning to run results on Thursday and Friday. I'm in and out of meetings so much today through Wednesday that I won't have a chance to do anything before then.

I'm off work Friday. :(

[The Bus]

Boo, the two busiest days of this week for me.

[Rockmjd23]

4 active sheep games and none starting today? Boooo

[Thor Simpson]

Thursday and Friday work great here.

Tracer can hang out at my place to watch the results and I'm sure The Bus can trade Friday for a few weekends.

[LurkerDan]

in.

[JasonF]

With about a day before the doors close, we have entries from the following players:

achau9598
chowderhead
CRM114
feenst
Fist of Doom
Flashback
funkpie
gmanca
Groucho
JasonF
Lunatikk
LurkerDan
maxfisher
Merkin Muffley
Mordred
Nick Danger
orangecrush18
Palaver
Pharoh
Red Dog
Rockmjd23
Scrumtrulescent
the big train
The Bus
Thor Simpson
Tommy Ceez
Tracer Bullet
Venusian
wendersfan
Wishbone

If your name is not on that list, you are not playing, and if you are not playing, you can't win. That makes you a LOSER -- unless you get your entries to me by tomorrow.

[Venusian]

:dance:

Not a loser....yet :(

[CRM114]

I'm in 3rd!

[wishbone]

Wow, last place... and my username has a capital...

Pourquoi JasonF? Pourquoi... ? :sad:

[Red Dog]

What kind of judicial philosophy can we expect in dispute resolution? Living constitution Ginsburg? Weather-vane - poll the forum O'Connor? Textualist Scalia?

[JasonF]

Wow, last place... and my username has a capital...

Pourquoi JasonF? Pourquoi... ? :sad:

YOU KNOW WHY!!!!

(I've fixed it on my master spreadsheet. Sorry about that).

[JasonF]

What kind of judicial philosophy can we expect in dispute resolution? Living constitution Ginsburg? Weather-vane - poll the forum O'Connor? Textualist Scalia?

Practical, tough, sexy Milian

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/225px-MarilynMilian2.jpg

[orangecrush]

Practical, tough, sexy Milian

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/225px-MarilynMilian2.jpgI think most of us can suport that.

[JasonF]

If, hypothetically, you had expressed an intention to revise your answers -- perhaps because I clarified something in this thread or in a PM -- you might want to remember to do that. Alternately, you could not do that and we could all mock you when I post the results.

[Thor Simpson]

You got my revision, right?

[JasonF]

You got my revision, right?

I did get yours. I did not get a revision from a certain someone who said in this very thread that he was going to send me a revision. Hypothetically, it might be someone who has run a sheep game or two in the past.

[Thor Simpson]

If I guess who it is, can I get a bonus point?

[The Bus]

Oh, right. Micronesia.

[JasonF]

Oh, right. Micronesia.

I so wanted you to forget to correct that so we could all laugh and point, but I just didn't feel right not saying anything. ;)

[LurkerDan]

Believe me - that question is harder for me than the rest of you. I have no clue what you blobs know. I might only match JasonF on this.

I've thrown a number of federal judge names around this forum.

I answered with probably the most known federal judge, but that doesn't mean that the blobs know him. :lol:

[Red Dog]

I answered with probably the most known federal judge, but that doesn't mean that the blobs know him. :lol:

I had 3 considerations - that judge, a judge recently passed over, and the judge I've likely mentioned most in this forum since 2005. ;)

[LurkerDan]

Here's a not-so-hypothetical hypothetical question.

Let's say one of the Sheep questions was "Name a President depicted on Mt. Rushmore." There are four correct answers -- George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt.

Now, let's say somebody sent in "Abraham Jefferson" as their answer.

My first inclination was to count that as wrong (since it's a sheep question, that just means it wouldn't match anything). A little disappointing to those people who answered with Lincoln or Jefferson and would have had one more match, but it is what it is.

However, there have been three people who sent in ambiguous answers. In each case, I have PM'ed the person and said "You need to be more specific in your answer to _____________."

So is it unfair of me to just mark the Abraham Jefferson answer as wrong when I've given people who said ambiguous things a chance to clarify? After all, "Abraham Jefferson" is not wrong in the way that, say "Jimmy Carter" would be. Carter is not on Mount Rushmore. It's a wrong answer. On the other hand, the person who said Abraham Jefferson probably meant either Lincoln or Jefferson, either one of which would be a right answer.

I think the answer is that there's a difference between ambiguous and wrong, so it's not unfair of me to treat the two differently. But I guess you can all take this as an opportunity to double-check the answers you sent me to make sure you don't have your own "Abrahm Jefferson" situation.

I'm late to the game on this one, but IMO even if "Jefferson" would be a right answer and a match for someone who said "Thomas Jefferson", "Abraham Jefferson" is a wrong answer and not a match. I believe that this is how Jeopardy does it, FWIW. If the correct answer (excuse me, correct question) is "Who is Thomas Jefferson", they give credit for "Who is Jefferson" but would give a wrong answer to "Who is Abraham Jefferson". If "Jefferson" is ambiguous in the context of the question (let's say there were two presidents named Jefferson), they would ask for the contestant to be more specific.

[LurkerDan]

I had 3 considerations - that judge, a judge recently passed over, and the judge I've likely mentioned most in this forum since 2005. ;)

I don't hang out in this forum much, so I wasn't sure on this (and a few other questions) whether I should count on lots of knowledge or not (for ex., the least known president question). For the president question, I counted on lots of knowledge, but that may have been a mistake! :lol:

[Red Dog]

I'm late to the game on this one, but IMO even if "Jefferson" would be a right answer and a match for someone who said "Thomas Jefferson", "Abraham Jefferson" is a wrong answer and not a match. I believe that this is how Jeopardy does it, FWIW. If the correct answer (excuse me, correct question) is "Who is Thomas Jefferson", they give credit for "Who is Jefferson" but would give a wrong answer to "Who is Abraham Jefferson". If "Jefferson" is ambiguous in the context of the question (let's say there were two presidents named Jefferson), they would ask for the contestant to be more specific.

You obviously weren't around in Sports Sheep for the "George Frazier" incident. ;)

[Venusian]

I assume yall are talking about Judge Judy, right?

[LurkerDan]

You obviously weren't around in Sports Sheep for the "George Frazier" incident. ;)

Nope, I wasn't, though it's hard to avoid constant references to it. :lol:

[Pharoh]

I had 3 considerations - that judge, a judge recently passed over, and the judge I've likely mentioned most in this forum since 2005. ;)

I went with a passed over one. Though I am not sure if my most known judge is the same as yours, and for obvious reasons.

:shrug:


Regardless, I am sure I will be on an island.

[Red Dog]

Though I am not sure if my most known judge is the same as yours

I think if this was sheep for lawyers, there is a federal judge that would clearly stand out - the one I believe Lurker is referencing. Given your background and what that judge is known for, your most known judge may just be that judge.

[JasonF]

I'm late to the game on this one, but IMO even if "Jefferson" would be a right answer and a match for someone who said "Thomas Jefferson", "Abraham Jefferson" is a wrong answer and not a match. I believe that this is how Jeopardy does it, FWIW. If the correct answer (excuse me, correct question) is "Who is Thomas Jefferson", they give credit for "Who is Jefferson" but would give a wrong answer to "Who is Abraham Jefferson". If "Jefferson" is ambiguous in the context of the question (let's say there were two presidents named Jefferson), they would ask for the contestant to be more specific.

Well, the affected person declined to change his answer, so it's getting marked as wrong and will be showcased for the whole forum to see. Prepare to lose respect for an esteemed contributor to the forum who previously had a reputation for extreme smartitudity.

[Venusian]

Prepare to lose respect for an esteemed contributor to the forum who previously had a reputation for extreme smartitudity.

well, we know you aren't talking about me so I guess I'm good :D

[JasonF]

The judge question is definitely one where I overestimated the forum's knowledge. We did get some funny answers out of it, so all is not lost.

[Red Dog]

The judge question is definitely one where I overestimated the forum's knowledge. We did get some funny answers out of it, so all is not lost.

You probably would have had better luck by asking for law professors. More people have probably heard of Tribe and Epstein than federal judges not on the SCt.

[Venusian]

Tribe? Epstein? (vaguely recall that name for an author, maybe it was the same guy)

i think i at least got the right person for judge. seen the name thrown around here a lot

[orangecrush]

You probably would have had better luck by asking for law professors. More people have probably heard of Tribe and Epstein than federal judges not on the SCt.If you asked for professors, I would think many people would go with Obama.

[Red Dog]

Tribe? Epstein? (vaguely recall that name for an author, maybe it was the same guy)

i think i at least got the right person for judge. seen the name thrown around here a lot

You've never heard of Lawrence Tribe?

Richard Epstein - I post some of his stuff here - he's libertarian.

[Red Dog]

If you asked for professors, I would think many people would go with Obama.

Yeah, I was thinking active professors, but that would probably be a default answer anyhow.

I would like to see future renditions of sheep require right answers for questions where there are clear right and wrongs.

[LurkerDan]

I think if this was sheep for lawyers.

that would be hysterical.

[Pharoh]

Yeah, I was thinking active professors, but that would probably be a default answer anyhow.

I would like to see future renditions of sheep require right answers for questions where there are clear right and wrongs.

I was vilified, (that might be a just a bit of hyperbole, but close), for suggesting that wrong sheep answers be given a point penalty.

[wendersfan]

well, we know you aren't talking about me so I guess I'm good :DHe's talking about me.

I declined to change my answer because it would have been unfair to everyone else had I done so.

[JasonF]

I was vilified, (that might be a just a bit of hyperbole, but close), for suggesting that wrong sheep answers be given a point penalty.

I don't think it's a bad idea for questions like the judge one, but I'm not sure how it would be implemented on a question like "What's the most pressing issue Congress will face this term?" If somebody answers "Proving that President Obama is really a secret Kenyan," can I penalize it as a wrong answer?

I think the next time I do one of these, I might subdivide the Sheep questions into penalty-eligible and penalty-ineligible.

[JasonF]

He's talking about me.

I declined to change my answer because it would have been unfair to everyone else had I done so.

What wendersfan lacks in smartitude on that particular question, he makes up for in good moral character. :up:

[Red Dog]

I don't think it's a bad idea for questions like the judge one, but I'm not sure how it would be implemented on a question like "What's the most pressing issue Congress will face this term?" If somebody answers "Proving that President Obama is really a secret Kenyan," can I penalize it as a wrong answer?



That's why I said clear right and wrongs. Just put an asterisk next to the sheep questions that require a correct answer. No fuss no muss.

[Venusian]

Lawrence Tribe vaguely rings a bell too but who knows. I'm not a lawyer or a law student.


These are sheep games, not trivia games. The point is to see how well you know the forum, not the subject matter (although sometimes you need to know a little of both)0

[Venusian]

actually, it'd be interesting to have a game where there are all subjective questions. then it all depends on how well you know the forum

[wendersfan]

What wendersfan lacks in smartitude on that particular question, he makes up for in good moral character. :up:
I guess I'm more Jerry Ford than Dick Nixon. ;)

[LurkerDan]

I think the next time I do one of these, I might subdivide the Sheep questions into penalty-eligible and penalty-ineligible.

:up:

[Groucho]

For the judge question I went with a well-known judge. Not a federal judge, but somebody that many people are likely to guess out of desperation.

[Nick Danger]

I guess I'm more Jerry Ford than Dick Nixon. ;)

Nobody voted for president Ford. Nobody voted for moderator wendersfan.
Jerry Ford played football. You're a fan of futbol.
It's eerie.

[JasonF]

Nobody voted for president Ford. Nobody voted for moderator wendersfan.
Jerry Ford played football. You're a fan of futbol.
It's eerie.

Plus, wendersfan is obviously a fan of Wim Wenders, who directed Wings of Desire, which was remade as City of Angels starring Nicholas Cage, who starred in Amos & Andrew with Dabney Coleman, who starred in Modern Problems with Chevy Chase, who first rose to fame on Saturday Night Live for his portrayals of .... Gerald Ford!

[Pharoh]

I struggled with the President question, and with the question preceding it, the one about GDP. I had no idea what the blobs would answer.
;)



:)

[LurkerDan]

so, the definition of "blobs" is "everyone but me", right?

[wendersfan]

Plus, wendersfan is obviously a fan of Wim Wenders, who directed Wings of Desire, which was remade as City of Angels starring Nicholas Cage, who starred in Amos & Andrew with Dabney Coleman, who starred in Modern Problems with Chevy Chase, who first rose to fame on Saturday Night Live for his portrayals of .... Gerald Ford!Gerald Ford went to U of M, I work at tOSU. 'Nuff said. ;)

[Pharoh]

so, the definition of "blobs" is "everyone but me", right?

That does appear to be the standard forum definition.



I used to criticise its usage, hence my sarcasm, but have since given up the ghost.

[Red Dog]

so, the definition of "blobs" is "everyone but me", right?

Not for me. Now if others who have misappropriated my term have misused it, that's their problem. :)

[Thor Simpson]

People above the blob mass know who the blobs are. The blobs only think they know.

[Groucho]

You are a carbon blob. Yes, you.

[CRM114]

Is this the longest Sheep pregame in the history of Sheep? Geesh.

[CRM114]

I think if this was sheep for lawyers, there is a federal judge that would clearly stand out - the one I believe Lurker is referencing. Given your background and what that judge is known for, your most known judge may just be that judge.

I went with the nutty one you seem to like a lot.

[CRM114]

You probably would have had better luck by asking for law professors. More people have probably heard of Tribe and Epstein than federal judges not on the SCt.

http://i4.fc-img.com/CTV02/Comcast_CIM_Prod_Fancast_Image/71/441/1202922410607_9291_0014_290_210.jpg

:hscratch:

[CRM114]

If you asked for professors, I would think many people would go with Obama.

Dershowitz.

[Thor Simpson]

Dershowitz.

Gesundheit.

[Red Dog]

I went with the nutty one you seem to like a lot.

Going for the best on quality is certainly one way to go on the question.

[Groucho]

Lost is on hiatus. GO GO GO GO GO!

[JasonF]

Sorry guys -- I'm in and out of meetings all afternoon. My schedule is clear for tomorrow, though, so we'll get the results then.

The good news is that there is still time for you stragglers to enter.

[CRM114]

Too much time for the Googlers. ;)

[JasonF]

So .... who's around this late on a Wednesday night? We'll wait until tomorrow to get into it, but let's get some of the preliminaries out of the way.

[JasonF]

Let's start by introducing you to our judges:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/simon-cowell.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/randy-jackson.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/paula21.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Kara-DioGuardi-Picture.jpg

Simon, Randy, Paula, and that new chick! Can you think of a more politically aware bunch?

[wendersfan]

I was hoping for the panel of The McClaughlin Group, kickin' it old style, with Hunt, Germond, Kondracke, Buchanan, and Father John himself!

[orangecrush]

I think I am coming down with something, so I may/may not participate. Don't let JasonF and The Bus cheat me out of my glory.

[JasonF]

And here are our contestants:

achau9598
chowderhead
CRM114
feenst
Fist of Doom
Flashback
funkpie
gmanca
Groucho
JasonF
Lunatikk
LurkerDan
maxfisher
Merkin Muffley
Mordred
Nick Danger
orangecrush18
Palaver
Pharoh
Red Dog
Rockmjd23
Scrumtrulescent
the big train
The Bus
Thor Simpson
Tommy Ceez
Tracer Bullet
Venusian
wendersfan
wishbone

[JasonF]

I was hoping for the panel of The McClaughlin Group, kickin' it old style, with Hunt, Germond, Kondracke, Buchanan, and Father John himself!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/mclaughlin_economy_tanking_012008.jpg
Wrong! You were hoping for a Tucker Carlson/Paul Begala Crossfire matchup!

[JasonF]

Some preliminary statistics: We have 30 players. 13 of them took advantage of the Google clause. One person took advantage of it four times, earning themselves a 15-point cummulative penalty. Was it worth it? Wait and see.

We will have lots of pictures in this thread. One picture comes from a website that sells pogo sticks and pogo stick accessories "for core athletes." Everyone remember that one for the next round of Sports Sheep.

I'll be using a few PG-13 pictures. Don't worry -- I'll spoiler them and flag them NSFW. But my wife saw one on the hard drive and asked why I was downloading porn. :lol:

[JasonF]

And with that, we will adjourn until the morning, when more people will be around.

[Red Dog]

I'll be using a few PG-13 pictures. Don't worry -- I'll spoiler them and flag them NSFW. But my wife saw one on the hard drive and asked why I was downloading porn. :lol:

Did she ask if you needed some alone time with Chief Justice Earl Warren?

[wendersfan]

Did she ask if you needed some alone time with Chief Justice Earl Warren?Louis Brandeis :drool:

[JasonF]

Did she ask if you needed some alone time with Chief Justice Earl Warren?

All I will say is that Benjamin Harrison looks quite fetching in a Speedo.

[Groucho]

One person took advantage of it four times, earning themselves a 15-point cummulative penalty.Shouldn't that be a 10 point penalty?

Edit: Damn, I misread. I thought it incremented by one each time, in fact it doubles.

[Mordred]

Shouldn't that be a 10 point penalty?

Edit: Damn, I misread. I thought it incremented by one each time, in fact it doubles.I came really close to googling 4-5x thinking I could pretty much assure myself a unique in those cases, but decided it wasn't the most sporting thing to do, so I only used it twice :lol:

[Flashback]

Some preliminary statistics: We have 30 players. 13 of them took advantage of the Google clause.

I am pretty sure I should have used the Google route as some of my answers are bad or I only knew 1 or 2. This is going to get ugly for me.

[Rockmjd23]

JasonF I just wanted to let you know that I sent you a private message.

[Red Dog]

I tried to use Google on one of the questions but I couldn't find anything, so I went with a wrong, but possibly good, sheep answer.

[Rockmjd23]

Some preliminary statistics: We have 30 players. 13 of them took advantage of the Google clause.
Not surprisingly, I'm one of them ;) It definitely wasn't worth it either on question #1 because I still could only get a shitty answer out of it.

[Venusian]

You couldn't find an answer on google? Do you suck at googling? ;)

[Red Dog]

You couldn't find an answer on google? Do you suck at googling? ;)

The googles....they do nothing.

[JasonF]

Come on, JasonF! When is this thing going to start!?

[Venusian]

The sheepmaster has gone mad

[Red Dog]

Stop looking at your nude pictures of the late Earl Warren and get this going.

[JasonF]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/14235__supremes_l.jpg
1. <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867">R:</font> ×2 Name someone who has served as Chief Justice of the United States

[JasonF]

Let's start with the worst answer (for this question, not for the whole thing):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/DavidSouter.jpg
Souter (18)
achau9598

[Venusian]

http://pretzelday.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/judge-judy.jpg

[Red Dog]

"No, Not Souter!"

[JasonF]

Here are some pretty good Reverse Sheep answers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/John_Jay_Gilbert_Stuart_portrait.jpg
John Jay
Palaver
Rockmjd23
the big train

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/MarshallHalfStack_Full.jpg
John Marshall
feenst
LurkerDan


Rockmjd23 Googled, so he gets a one-point penalty.

[Tracer Bullet]

WTF is John Jay wearing?

[Fist of Doom]

It's pronounced "suter-mayor"

[Venusian]

Based on Lost results, I should have gone with Roberts

[JasonF]

Here are some less good reverse sheep answers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/taft-fullsize473x502.gif
William Taft
The Bus
Pharoh
Lunatikk
gmanca
funkpie
chowderhead
orangecrush18

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/julia-roberts.jpg
John Roberts
Groucho
Scrumtrulescent
wishbone
Fist of Doom
Mordred
maxfisher

[Red Dog]

Surprised John Marshall only got 2. Unless one can remember that Taft served as CJ, he's probably the most well-known prior to Earl Warren.

[CRM114]

http://www.thewallanalysis.com/Pictures/MovieShots/FullSizeShots/Trial29.JPG

[JasonF]

Here's that sexy picture you've all been waiting for

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/Earl_Warren.jpg
Earl Warren
Venusian
CRM114
Merkin Muffley
Nick Danger

[Groucho]

Sicilian Logic = FAIL

[Venusian]

I'll take that :dance:


don't tell me Reinquist would have been better

[JasonF]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/Roger_Taney_-_Healy.jpg
Roger Taney
JasonF
wendersfan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/Rehnquist.jpg
William Rehqnuist
Thor Simpson
Tracer Bullet

[CRM114]

Crap.

[Tracer Bullet]

:dance:

[JasonF]

Which leaves 3 uniques:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/OLIVER111.jpg
Oliver Ellsworth
Tommy Ceez

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/cheeseburger.jpg
Warren Burger
Flashback

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%201/FredVinson.jpg
Fred Vinson
(F)Red Dog

[Venusian]

ARGH! Stupid Rehnquist

[Fist of Doom]

Man, those gold stripes look stupid...

[Red Dog]

Mmmmmm....Burger :drool:

[JasonF]

Since there were three uniques, the unique bonus is 6 points, which is doubled to twelve since this is a double point question. Per the rules, Tommy Ceez is ineligible since he used Google for this question.

[Red Dog]

Wow. Oliver Ellsworth. That definitely wins the award for most unique. I could only think of 4 guys prior to Stone (Taft, Taney, Marshall, Jay).


edit: Oh google - that explains it. :lol:

[JasonF]

Please stand by, we are experiencing technical dificulties with our ranking system

[Flashback]

Wow, I thought more would answer Burger or Rehnquist (sp?). My next answer I am going for the Monopoly answer. ;)

[Red Dog]

Now the fun question.

"What can BROWN do for me." ;)

[Red Dog]

Wow, I thought more would answer Burger or Rehnquist (sp?). My next answer I am going for the Monopoly answer. ;)

It tells you how utterly forgettable Warren Burger was. ;)

But he was Harriet Miers favorite justice. :lol:

[CRM114]

Unfortunately, it's a Sheep question. Not much.

[Venusian]

Now the fun question.

"What can BROWN do for me." ;)

:up:

[JasonF]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/olbermann_matthews.jpg
"Keith, the returns from the first question are in and it looks like Flashback and Red Dog have taken an early and commanding lead."

<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867"> 1 Flashback -12 </font>
<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #A3D867"> 1 Red Dog -12 </font>
3 Tommy Ceez 1
4 JasonF 4
4 Thor Simpson 4
4 Tracer Bullet 4
4 wendersfan 4
4 feenst 4
4 LurkerDan 4
10 Palaver 6
10 the big train 6
12 Rockmjd23 7
13 Venusian 8
13 CRM114 8
13 Merkin Muffley 8
13 Nick Danger 8
17 Groucho 12
17 Scrumtrulescent 12
17 wishbone 12
17 Fist of Doom 12
17 Mordred 12
17 maxfisher 12
23 The Bus 14
23 Pharoh 14
23 Lunatikk 14
23 gmanca 14
23 funkpie 14
23 chowderhead 14
23 orangecrush18 14
30 achau9598 18

[Venusian]

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/1/12/Judgewapner.jpg

[Venusian]

Top half! woohoo! How long will it last? As I'm following live, it can't be long

[JasonF]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%202/judges.jpg
2. <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #F9DF00">S:</font> Name a current federal judge who has never been nominated to the Supreme Court.

a.k.a. "Which question will give the worst answers in the history of sheep games?"

[Venusian]

oh @#$@. I just checked my answer and thought I sent something else in :(

how lenient will Jason be?

[Groucho]

Hey, is this Politics Sheep or Law School Sheep? :grumble:

[Lunatikk]

This is bad... real bad..

[Flashback]

"Keith, the returns from the first question are in and it looks like Flashback and Red Dog have taken an early and commanding lead."


Oh how short lived that will be for me.

[Red Dog]

:up:

I considered 4:

Wood - recent news
Brown - because she's awesome and I don't let people forget it
Posner - he's the most published/well-known to law (and economic) geeks
Judy - carbon blobs

[Venusian]

Don't know who Wood or Posner are. Other two would be better. What about Wapner?

[JasonF]

Here are some unique answers:

Batchelder
wendersfan may know her, but nobody else does

Judge Joe Brown
Thor Simpson

Hamilton
orangecrush18

Hawkins
funkpie

Illston
gmanca

Jacobs
Mordred

Lefkow
Scrumtrulescent

gmanca, Mordred, and Scrumtrulescent had to google for those. How'd that work out, guys?

[Groucho]

I went with the "carbon blob" choice in this question. Will this be the "Monopoly" question of Politics Sheep?

[Red Dog]

Don't know who Wood or Posner are. Other two would be better. What about Wapner?

Isn't Wapner dead - not that it matters.

Diane Wood was on Obama's short list for Souter's vacancy.

[Venusian]

I think I might be okay here.

[Lunatikk]

mine isn't unique?

[Venusian]

Looks like Thor went for sheep, just the unpopular sheep

[Red Dog]

I think I remember wenders mentioning that he knew Batchelder during the O'Connor vacancy. She got some consideration for that vacancy. I would have preferred her to Alito.

[Groucho]

Judge Wapner is still alive and will be turning 90 (!) this year.

[Tracer Bullet]

I hated this question.

[JasonF]

Here are some more uniques:

Michel
Lunatikk

Owens
chowderhead

Kagan
Nick Danger

Not only is Kagan unique, it is wrong -- her nomination was killed in committee by the Republicans, who never gave her a hearing when presidnet Clinton nominated her to the bench. She's currently serving as Solicitor General and is always on the short list for any appellate appointment ... but she's not a judge.

Reinhold
Merkin Muffley gets credit for the most clever answer. Unfortunately, there are no bonus points for that.

Sotomayor
Flashback

No. Just ... no. Read the question, man!

Wood
wishbone

That's all the uniques. If your name wasn't listed above, you think like at least one other player!

[Red Dog]

Judge Wapner is still alive and will be turning 90 (!) this year.

Good for him. Is Rusty the Bailiff still alive?

[CRM114]

There should be a penalty for incorrect Sheep answers.

[Flashback]

I went with the "carbon blob" choice in this question. Will this be the "Monopoly" question of Politics Sheep?

I "hope"

[Red Dog]

Reinhold
Merkin Muffley gets credit for the most clever answer. Unfortunately, there are no bonus points for that.



Maybe he meant Reinhardt. ;) The most liberal of all liberal federal judges. Perhaps your favorite? ;)

[Fist of Doom]

Good for him. Is Rusty the Bailiff still alive?

Afraid not. :(

[Pharoh]

I considered 4:

Wood - recent news
Brown - because she's awesome and I don't let people forget it
Posner - he's the most published/well-known to law (and economic) geeks
Judy - carbon blobs

We were in agreement then, and for your correct reasons.

:)

[JasonF]

Oops -- one more unique:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%202/KentSamuel.jpg
Kent
Tommy Ceez

Not only is it unique, not only did Tommy Ceez get his second Google penalty for this one, but Mr. Kent resigned in disgrace last month under threat of impeachment and is therefore no longer a correct answer to this question.

[Pharoh]

And I still can't believe so many went with Taft.


My Ohio strategy lets me down.
:(

[achau9598]

<--- should have googled :(

[Groucho]

Rusty Burrell died in 2002. :sad:

Doug Llewelyn is still alive. :banana:

[JasonF]

Here are two equally good Sheep answers -- one a correct answer and one a shot-in-the-dark guess.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%202/posner.jpg
Judge Posner
JasonF
LurkerDan

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%202/smith.jpg
Judge Smith
achau9598
The Bus

[Red Dog]

I figured there would some "Smith" guesses. I've done that before. :lol:

[JasonF]

Another match:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/Politics%20Sheep/Question%202/080612-kozinski-vmed-500prp350x350.jpg
Judge Kozinski
Rockmjd23
Tracer Bullet

[Tracer Bullet]

That's all the uniques. If your name wasn't listed above, you think like at least one other player!

Um... really? I matched someone else? I mean... really?

:eek:

:dance:

[JasonF]

Which leaves two answers: both tough, strong-willed women known far and wide for their judging.

[Lunatikk]

mine isn't unique?

crap

[Tracer Bullet]

I used my Google exemption on that. :(

[The Bus]

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JasonF
wendersfan

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[b]William Rehqnuist
Thor Simpson
Tracer Bullet

Fuck! Renny was going to be my alternate choice. But as William Howard Taft is the Finest American Ever Built™ I contractually had to use him as my answer.

[Red Dog]

Wow. Kozinski answers. For the record, he's my 2nd favorite Circuit Judge after Judge Brown.

[JasonF]

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Judge Janice Rogers Brown

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Judge Judy Rogers Brown

One of these was the best answer for this question.

[Groucho]

That's all the uniques. If your name wasn't listed above, you think like at least one other player!Venusian is thrilled that "Judge Black" is a scoring choice.

[Venusian]

I used my Google exemption on that. :(I was going to say...

[JasonF]

One of those women was the best answer for this question ... and so was the other! Each had five answers.

Judge Judy
Palaver
Groucho
Fist of Doom
the big train
maxfisher

Judge Janice
Venusian
CRM114
Pharoh
Red Dog
feenst

[Fist of Doom]

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"Don't hate me 'cause I'm....hateable."

[Merkin Muffley]

Mock Trial with J Reinhold!

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[wendersfan]

I should have gone with Brown. The fact that I thought of her so easily made me doubt she was actually a Federal judge. :lol:

[The Bus]

Well at least Smith matched. Thanks achau9598!