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The Bus
06-03-09, 04:38 PM
<img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/9/14692095_a6f13c70c0.jpg?v=0">

Never played before? Here's some praise for the game:

"woohoo!" - Venusian

"This is the most stirring display of gallantry and sportsmanship since Mountbatten gave India back to the Punjabs." - wishbone

"These have been really fun." - Tracer Bullet

"Bus, I know it has been said before, but you really do a great job with these threads." - orangecrush18


<ul>Rules<br>
<li> The object of the game is to out-think everyone by picking answers to questions that are the most common ("Sheep") or unique ("Reverse Sheep"), but still correct.
<li> Example Sheep question: "Name a 19th century president." A good answer would be Abraham Lincoln and a bad answer might be Millard Fillmore.
<li> Example Reverse Sheep question: "Name a country in Europe". Germany might be a bad answer, but Lichtenstein might be a good answer. (Unless everyone is trying to go as obscure as possible).
<li> New! The answers to each question are tallied up. Wrong answers in Reverse Sheep are scored two points above the most common answer. This penalty is multiplied by the Lightning Round Multiplier. Wrong answers in Sheep are not penalized.
<li> You may not cheat by using Google, Wikipedia, e-mailing Rockmjd23, etc. Use only what's in your head.
<li> Sheep scores are tallied as negative numbers. Reverse Sheep scores are tallied as positive numbers. The lowest score wins.
<li> <b>New!</b> Certain rounds are considered Lightning Rounds (designated by a multiplier, such as <b>×2</b>). In these rounds, scores are adjusted by the <u>number on the multiplier</u>. A wrong answer still gets a +4 penalty in a x2 round and a +6 penalty in a x3 round. In a sheep round, a wrong answer scores normally.
<li> <b>New!</b> The State Matching Bonus.

A lot of questions have the possibility of matching states. I'll be counting states that may appear as answers in off-beat questions, like Question 1 and Question 17. Each <i>pair</i> of answers that contains the full name of a US state gets a -1 bonus. Let's say Player 1 has three answers which are "Florida" (red) and two answers which are "Illinois" (blue). Player 2 has four answers which are all "Maine" (green).

<img src="http://www.fantasticdamage.com/blog/r3sh.gif">

Player 1 has a total of four pairs, so he gets a -4 bonus to his score. Player 2 has a total of six pairs (count each green line) so he gets a -6 bonus to his score. The absolute maximum bonus you can get (cumulative across all matches) is -15. If your answer is wrong, you don't get a bonus at all for that question.

I will accept answers that contain the names of states, but nothing transitive (i.e. the state's capital matching with the state).

<li> Please send in your answers to me via PM. Place only one answer per line, without numbers or the question itself. <b>New!</b> Those who do not do this will be penalized 7 points right off the bat.
<li> <b>New!</b> For your convenience, <a href="http://www.fantasticdamage.com/blog/PoliticsR3.xls">I've made an Excel file</a> where you can prepare your answers. When finished, just select the column of answers and send that in as text via PM. Don't email me the Excel file, that would be silly. (<a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=rcRQJzfWNRrp25y41mVVapQ">Google version here</a>).
<li> You have until at least Monday, June 8, at 9:00AM EDT to send in answers. The game will begin sometime that week.
</ul>


<ol><u>The Questions</u><br>
<b>Sheep</b><br>
<li> Aside from Roe v. Wade, name a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court (by name).
<li> Aside from the New York Times and the Washington Post, name a major American newspaper.
<li> <b>×2</b> Name a battle during the American Revolutionary War.
<li> Name a company that has gone through turmoil (or ceased to exist completely) in the last five years.
<li> Name a television show where Barack Obama has made an in-person (or by satellite) appearance.
<li> Name one of the 19th century industrialists who were refered to as Robber Barons. 1-pt. Bonus: Name what industry they were primarily associated with.
<li> Name one of the original thirteen colonies.
<li> <b>×2</b> Name a NASA space shuttle that did not blow up.
<li> Name a United States state capital with more than ten letters in its name.<br>
<b>Reverse Sheep</b><br>
<li> Since Black Monday on October 28, 1929, the United States has gone through a number of economic contractions, as defined by the National Bureau of Economic Research. Name one of them by name or a month and year when we were in contraction.
<li> Name a woman or African-American that has run for president or vice president in a general election in the United States.
<li> Name a state that has ten or more members in the House of Representatives of the 111th Congress.
<li> Name a country that is known to have nuclear weapons. "Known" means that the country is recognized as having weapons by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, or has conducted a test of a nuclear weapon.
<li> Name a stock exchange with a market value of at least 400 billion dollars. You can name it by its name (NYSE) or main stock market index (DJIA). There's at least fifteen.
<li> Name a present-day country which was entirely under Axis control for at least a 12 month period during World War II.
<li> Name one of the main service branches of the United States armed forces.
<li> <b>×2</b> The United States has broken up many monopolies over the years. Name one of the spaces a player can land on in the game Monopoly.
<li> As measured by the Foreign Trade Statistics office of the US Census Bureau, name one of our top fifteen trading partners, measured in value of goods only (not services). This can be in imports, exports, or total trade and is measured using the latest YTD data.
<li> It is estimated that over sixteen million military personnel and civilians lost their lives during World War I. Name a country or power that suffered over 100,000 deaths.
<li> Name a state in the US whose Asian, American Indian, Alaskan Native, or Pacific Islander population is higher than the national average.
<li> <b>×2</b> Name a United States president who was only elected once.
<li> Name one of the 25 richest people in the world, as defined in USD net worth by Forbes magazine.
<li> Name a state whose name both starts and ends in a vowel or consonant (i.e. not Delaware or Illinois).
<li> Name one of the first ten positions in the United States presidential line of succession.
<li> <b>×2</b> Name one of the top ten countries in the world by population or land area.
<li> Transparency International publishes an annual Corruption Perceptions Index ordering the countries of the world according to the degree to which corruption is perceived to exist. Name one of the 25 least corrupt countries in the world.
<li> <b>×2</b> Name an Ivy League school.
<li> Name the head of state of a South American nation.
<li> <b>×3</b> Let's try this again, this time for higher stakes. Name one of the United States federal executive departments.
<li> Name an existing country where the Communist Party was or is the ruling party.
<li> <b>×2</b> Name a state that doesn't border or contain any ocean, the Gulf of Mexico, any of the Great Lakes, or the Mississippi River (its sub-basins are OK).
</ol>

A special thank you to Jeremy517 and mosquitobite, who both contributed questions I've slightly modified here. You have until at least Monday, June 8, at 9:00AM EDT to send in answers. The game will begin sometime that week.

Good luck!

Th0r S1mpson
06-03-09, 04:44 PM
Way too complicated and stupid this time. You can quote me on that.

Mordred
06-03-09, 04:51 PM
So the state matching is only for questions that don't specifically ask for a state as the answer?

The Bus
06-03-09, 04:52 PM
So the state matching is only for questions that don't specifically ask for a state as the answer?

Nope, it's on any question.

Venusian
06-03-09, 04:56 PM
State thing is a little confusing but basically repeating states in answers is good, right?


I'm going to actually take time to think this time so I'll probably send them tomorrow instead of rushing you answers in the next five minutes

Venusian
06-03-09, 04:57 PM
and you should make that a google spreadsheet :D

The Bus
06-03-09, 04:57 PM
This is a lot clearer if you use the Excel file. :up:

Venusian
06-03-09, 04:58 PM
Here's the confusion:

Player 1 has a total of four pairs, so he gets a -4 bonus to his score. Player 2 has a total of six pairs (count each green line) so he gets a -5 bonus to his score.

should that be -6?

The Bus
06-03-09, 04:59 PM
State thing is a little confusing but basically repeating states in answers is good, right?

Yes, the more states you repeat, the more of a chance you have to get the bonus.

The Bus
06-03-09, 05:00 PM
Here's the confusion:

should that be -6?

Yes, that's -6. Fixed.

The Bus
06-03-09, 05:02 PM
and you should make that a google spreadsheet :D

<a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=rcRQJzfWNRrp25y41mVVapQ">Google Doc</a> version.

Venusian
06-03-09, 05:03 PM
<a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=rcRQJzfWNRrp25y41mVVapQ">Google Doc</a> version.

sweet. you rock!

Nick Danger
06-03-09, 09:14 PM
Question 39: Does "above average" refer to median, where there are 25 states above the middle value, or mean, where the states right at the middle value don't count as "above average"?

Rockmjd23
06-03-09, 09:55 PM
Sent. I'm not waiting till the last day so there's no suspicions ;)
Lots of guesses.

JasonF
06-03-09, 10:12 PM
Sent. I'm not waiting till the last day so there's no suspicions ;)
Lots of guesses.

Oh, please. You've had hours to use Google, browse wikipedia, and send e-mails off to Pulitzer-prize winning historian Daniel Walker Howe. We know what you're really about.

;)

Rockmjd23
06-03-09, 10:27 PM
^lol
I can only name 2 south american heads of state, both obvious

The Bus
06-03-09, 10:36 PM
#39, Nick?

I'm not looking for one of the median states. If the national average for people with red hats is 3%, and DE, NY, NJ, and FL's averages are 1%, 2%, 3%, and 4% respectively, then FL would be a right answer.

orangecrush
06-04-09, 08:05 AM
:lol: at the quotes. Also, I appreciate the bonus, but I think you are setting yourself up for some less than fun adding with that scheme.

frenchy
06-04-09, 10:46 AM
You may not cheat by using Google, Wikipedia, e-mailing Rockmjd23, etc. Use only what's in your head.

:lol:

Some hard questions this time, I'm fully expecting to guess on at least five of these.

The Bus
06-04-09, 10:50 AM
:lol: at the quotes. Also, I appreciate the bonus, but I think you are setting yourself up for some less than fun adding with that scheme.

Actually, the way I tally everything through Excel should be pretty easy: it's a basic triangular number sequence. The question is when I should have the bonus be tallied up.

VinVega
06-04-09, 10:52 AM
I'm glad I won the first one. I don't think I have the endurance to handle these new and improved versions.

The Bus
06-04-09, 10:56 AM
I'm glad I won the first one. I don't think I have the endurance to handle these new and improved versions.

Don't be such a Mod note --- You take that back about my mother

Rockmjd23
06-04-09, 11:05 AM
You may not cheat by using Google, Wikipedia, e-mailing Rockmjd23, etc. Use only what's in your head.
Son of a...

Th0r S1mpson
06-04-09, 11:32 AM
Actually, the way I tally everything through Excel should be pretty easy: it's a basic triangular number sequence. The question is when I should have the bonus be tallied up.

I think the bonuses have to tally on the fly because it is more difficult for you to do.

But since the last question is a state question, you might as well just reveal them along with the final answer scores.

wishbone
06-04-09, 12:05 PM
There goes my lifeline option to Rockmjd23 for this round... :sad:

frenchy
06-04-09, 12:15 PM
Regarding the state matching bonus, if one was to hypothetically answer all the state questions with the same state and they were all correct answers, that's the best possible outcome?

The Bus
06-04-09, 12:24 PM
Well, the State Matching Bonus is a triangular sequence, meaning:

Pairs (# of): 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6...

are given a bonus of:

Bonus (points): 1, 3, 6, 10, 15...

Since there's a cap of 15 points, it doesn't make sense to match a state in more than six questions.

I didn't want to make it all about the bonus and even the max bonus of 15 gives you a bonus of 2½ points per question (15 ÷ 6), so the focus should still be on the S/RS questions.

I hope everyone's quacking in their boots for #29. :lol:

JasonF
06-04-09, 12:35 PM
Quacking?

orangecrush
06-04-09, 12:36 PM
I hope everyone's quacking in their boots for #29. :lol:Depending on the number of players, it could be quite brutal.

Red Dog
06-04-09, 12:37 PM
I might answer 'confusion' for all the state question, as in "state of...."

The Bus
06-04-09, 12:42 PM
Yes, quacking. You know, like earthquacks.

feenst
06-04-09, 01:35 PM
Ah, I thought there might be a duck on one of those logos.

There's certainly a buffalo.

DeltaSigChi4
06-04-09, 05:30 PM
Buffalo = patriotic
ducks = not patriotic

Capitals = patriotic
[9/11] United = unpatriotic

:rolleyes:

E

The Bus
06-04-09, 05:59 PM
What does the phrase 9/11 United mean?

JasonF
06-04-09, 06:05 PM
what does the phrase 9/11 united mean?

A m e r i c a

wishbone
06-04-09, 09:01 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/168hc0w.gif

Giuliani Football!!!

Jeremy517
06-04-09, 09:17 PM
[9/11] United = unpatriotic


You know they had the nickname 5+ years before Sept 2001, right?

DeltaSigChi4
06-04-09, 09:54 PM
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/faces/unitedstates.gif

E

Rockmjd23
06-04-09, 10:04 PM
:hscratch:

CRM114
06-04-09, 10:10 PM
This page is sort of surreal.

Jeremy517
06-05-09, 10:19 AM
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/images/faces/unitedstates.gif

E

I'll take that as a "no".

JasonF
06-05-09, 10:48 AM
Question for the Bus: Does Pharoh need to send his answers to you separately, or will you simply cut and paste from my answers?

Pharoh
06-05-09, 11:10 AM
Question for the Bus: Does Pharoh need to send his answers to you separately, or will you simply cut and paste from my answers?

It would save me some time.

Bus,

Could you just change a couple of his poorer answers for me though first? Thanks.




:)

The Bus
06-08-09, 12:21 PM
We need a few more players. Here are past players who have not participated this time:

Funkpie
Groucho
jdodd
Jeremy517
maxfisher
Mordred
mosquitobite
nausicaa
Numanoid
Red Dog
wendersfan
VinVega

wendersfan
06-08-09, 12:49 PM
I can play if I have until midnight EDT to get my responses in.

The Bus
06-08-09, 01:22 PM
Yep — that's fine.

CRM114
06-08-09, 01:52 PM
I was up at midnite getting my submission in. :mad:

Pharoh
06-08-09, 08:26 PM
Bump for any stragglers.

For what it is worth, I thought most of these questions were easier than last time. Well, at least I thought less about most of them. A few, I simply guessed completely.

The Bus
06-08-09, 09:22 PM
C'mon, Red Dog!

Tracer Bullet
06-08-09, 09:25 PM
For what it is worth, I thought most of these questions were easier than last time. Well, at least I thought less about most of them. A few, I simply guessed completely.

:lol:

This is the funniest thing you've ever posted. It may be the only funny thing you've ever posted, come to think of it. It was worth the wait.

wendersfan
06-08-09, 10:01 PM
OK I'm in.

maxfisher
06-09-09, 06:47 AM
Ok, I just sent my answers, if it's not too late. I didn't have time to think much about my answers, so I'll probably do even worse than last time. I'll just be happy if none of them are out-and-out wrong.

The Bus
06-09-09, 07:33 AM
The Sheep Supercomputer* is compiling the information now. If you'd like to play and haven't, you've got about 15 minutes left before polls close.


*Me and an Excel spreadsheet.

The Bus
06-09-09, 07:47 AM
CAN YOU FEEL THE LAMB?

<img src="http://classic-horror.com/files/images/10757_black_sheep_screen_oliver_driver.jpg">

Meet our esteemed players:

achau9598
arminius
belboz
Birrman54
CRM114
DSC4
feenst
frenchy
Jason
JasonF
jdodd
maxfisher
missflores
Nick Danger
orangecrush18
Palaver
Pharoh
Rockmjd23
The Bus
Thor Simpson
Tracer Bullet
Venusian
wendersfan
wishbone
wmansir

The Bus
06-09-09, 07:51 AM
Our referees today will be:

<img src="http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cML3zR8B9e7d/610x.jpg">
Jay Nady, seen here settling an argument between Venusian and JasonF.


<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41795000/jpg/_41795558_referee416.jpg">
Ľuboš Micheľ, seen here begrudgingly allowing Red Dog's answer of "eye blinking" as one of the inalienable rights.


<img src="http://bluenova.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/tucker.jpg">
Tucker Carlson, whom no one likes.

The Bus
06-09-09, 07:53 AM
<img src="http://canuckjihad.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/crybaby.png?w=300&h=425">

Gentlemen, begin your arguments and rhetoric. The game begins!

The Bus
06-09-09, 07:59 AM
I just want to point out that ONLY JasonF and Pharoh answered, exactly, Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas. Exactly.

Venusian
06-09-09, 08:01 AM
I have a feeling I'm going to do just as bad this round as before

wendersfan
06-09-09, 08:01 AM
I was gonna but thought you'd make fun of me if I did.

JasonF
06-09-09, 08:02 AM
I just want to point out that ONLY JasonF and Pharoh answered, exactly, Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas. Exactly.

State-matching bonus points, bitches!

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:05 AM
Question 1: Aside from Roe v. Wade, name a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court (by name).

Oliver Brown et al. v. Board of Education of Topeka et al., 347 U.S. 483 (17): DSC4, Nick Danger, Venusian, wendersfan, Birrman54, missflores, maxfisher, orangecrush18, Palaver, Tracer Bullet, JasonF, Pharoh, CRM114, Rockmjd23, achau9598, wishbone, wmansir

Dred Scott v. John F. A. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (3): Jason, Arminius, belboz

Homer A. Plessy v. Ferguson, 163 U.S. 357 (2): frenchy, The Bus

wendersfan
06-09-09, 08:07 AM
I'm really glad I didn't go with Miranda or Mapp.

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:09 AM
Other answers:

Bush v Gore: jdodd

Miranda v. Arizona: feenst

Rodgers v. Hammerstein: Thor Simpson

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:13 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
achau9598 : -17
Birrman54 : -17
CRM114 : -17
DSC4 : -17
JasonF : -17
maxfisher : -17
missflores : -17
Nick Danger : -17
orangecrush18 : -17
Palaver : -17
Pharoh : -17
Rockmjd23 : -17
Tracer Bullet : -17
Venusian : -17
wendersfan : -17
wishbone : -17
wmansir : -17 </font>
arminius : -3
belboz : -3
Jason : -3
frenchy : -2
The Bus : -2
feenst : 0
jdodd : 0
Thor Simpson : 0

Remember: Sheep answers score negative.

CRM114
06-09-09, 08:21 AM
First place!

orangecrush
06-09-09, 08:24 AM
<img src="http://bluenova.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/tucker.jpg">
Tucker Carlson, whom no one likes.How could you not like a guy with a bow tie?

frenchy
06-09-09, 08:35 AM
Incredible.

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:35 AM
Question 2. Aside from the New York Times and the Washington Post, name a major American newspaper.

<img src="http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/wp-content/uploads//2009/01/theonion.jpg">

Venusian
06-09-09, 08:37 AM
No point arguing if sheep answers are valid...so that takes away some of the fun

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:40 AM
The Wall Street Journal (13): belboz, Birrman54, Jason, JasonF, maxfisher, missflores, orangecrush18, Pharoh, Rockmjd23, Thor Simpson, Tracer Bullet, wendersfan, wishbone

USA Today (5): arminius, Nick Danger, The Bus, Venusian, wmansir

Los Angeles Times (4): CRM114, feenst, frenchy, jdodd

Chicago Tribune (2): DSC4, Palaver

Chicago Sun-Times (0): achau9598

orangecrush
06-09-09, 08:42 AM
glad I changed from USAToday to WSJ before sending to bus

CRM114
06-09-09, 08:43 AM
And just like that, I suck.

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:43 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Birrman54 : -30
JasonF : -30
maxfisher : -30
missflores : -30
orangecrush18 : -30
Pharoh : -30
Rockmjd23 : -30
Tracer Bullet : -30
wendersfan : -30
wishbone : -30 </font>
Nick Danger : -22
Venusian : -22
wmansir : -22
CRM114 : -21
DSC4 : -19
Palaver : -19
achau9598 : -17
belboz : -16
Jason : -16
Thor Simpson : -13
arminius : -8
The Bus : -7
frenchy : -6
feenst : -4
jdodd : -4

Venusian
06-09-09, 08:45 AM
and that's why I should think of the questions instead of just answering the first thing that comes to my head...

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:45 AM
Question 3. ×2 Name a battle during the American Revolutionary War.

<img src="http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h56000/h56735.jpg">

wendersfan
06-09-09, 08:46 AM
This should be interesting.

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:47 AM
Amazingly, this answer scored points:

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Battle_of_Gettysburg%2C_by_Currier_and_Ives.png/800px-Battle_of_Gettysburg%2C_by_Currier_and_Ives.png">

frenchy
06-09-09, 08:47 AM
I think I rally with this one.

Venusian
06-09-09, 08:49 AM
http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/640/401/26/o_86KXoNNygeeaoy5.jpg

CRM114
06-09-09, 08:50 AM
Gettysburg? :lol:

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:53 AM
Battle of Bunker Hill (20): frenchy, Jason, JasonF, jdodd, Nick Danger, orangecrush18, Palaver, Pharoh, The Bus, Venusian

Battle of Saratoga (8): arminius, maxfisher, missflores, wishbone

Battles of Lexington and Concord (6): Rockmjd23, Tracer Bullet, wmansir

Gettysburg :lol: (6): achau9598, belboz, DSC4

Siege of Yorktown (4): Birrman54, wendersfan

Camp Valley Forge (4): CRM114, feenst

War on Drugs (0): Thor Simpson

wishbone
06-09-09, 08:53 AM
http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/640/401/26/o_86KXoNNygeeaoy5.jpgLinda Carter's see-thru one-piece ftw! :banana:

The Bus
06-09-09, 08:54 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
JasonF : -50
orangecrush18 : -50
Pharoh : -50 </font>
Nick Danger : -42
Venusian : -42
Palaver : -39
maxfisher : -38
missflores : -38
wishbone : -38
Jason : -36
Rockmjd23 : -36
Tracer Bullet : -36
Birrman54 : -34
wendersfan : -34
wmansir : -28
The Bus : -27
frenchy : -26
CRM114 : -25
DSC4 : -25
jdodd : -24
achau9598 : -23
belboz : -22
arminius : -16
Thor Simpson : -13
feenst : -8

wishbone
06-09-09, 08:56 AM
So a sheep answer can be wrong as it pertains the question?

frenchy
06-09-09, 08:56 AM
My second choice after Bunker Hill would have been Antietam.

wendersfan
06-09-09, 08:56 AM
I'm now convinced Pharoh and JasonF are indeed the same person.

(Goes off to check IP addresses)

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:04 AM
Question 4. Name a company that has gone through turmoil (or ceased to exist completely) in the last five years.

<img src="http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030122h.gif">

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:07 AM
AIG (7): achau9598, frenchy, JasonF, orangecrush18, Palaver, Rockmjd23, The Bus

General Motors (11): belboz, CRM114, feenst, Pharoh, Tracer Bullet, wishbone,
DSC4, jdodd, maxfisher, missflores, wmansir

Enron (3): Jason, Venusian, wendersfan

Bear Stearns: Nick Danger

Citicorp: arminius

Lehman Bros: Birrman54

The Republican Party: Thor Simpson

Venusian
06-09-09, 09:09 AM
doh! Figured Enron was the corporate failure meme. My 2nd choice was LB, glad I didn't go with that.

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:09 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -61 </font>
JasonF : -57
orangecrush18 : -57
maxfisher : -49
missflores : -49
wishbone : -49
Tracer Bullet : -47
Palaver : -46
Venusian : -45
Rockmjd23 : -43
Nick Danger : -42
Jason : -39
wmansir : -39
wendersfan : -37
CRM114 : -36
DSC4 : -36
jdodd : -35
Birrman54 : -34
The Bus : -34
belboz : -33
frenchy : -33
achau9598 : -30
feenst : -19
arminius : -16
Thor Simpson : -13

CRM114
06-09-09, 09:10 AM
Great. Me and the last place guy are on the same page.

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:11 AM
Question 5. Name a television show where Barack Obama has made an in-person (or by satellite) appearance.

<img src="http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/b21d8ff610_ltpObamaTV082708.jpg">

wendersfan
06-09-09, 09:13 AM
This was a total guess for me. I don't think I've seen Obama on TV since the nomination. :lol:

Venusian
06-09-09, 09:14 AM
Do his monthly press conferences count as a show? It's had more episodes than half the stuff Fox picks up

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:15 AM
60 Minutes: maxfisher

Meet the Press (2): belboz, wishbone

The O'Reilly Factor: CRM114

Saturday Night Live (5): arminius, feenst, Nick Danger, Tracer Bullet, wmansir

The Oprah Winfrey Show (5): achau9598, DSC4, Jason, orangecrush18, Thor Simpson

The Tonight Show with Jay Leno (11): Birrman54, frenchy, JasonF, jdodd, missflores, Palaver, Pharoh, Rockmjd23, The Bus, Venusian, wendersfan

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:17 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -72 </font>
JasonF : -68
orangecrush18 : -62
missflores : -60
Palaver : -57
Venusian : -56
Rockmjd23 : -54
Tracer Bullet : -52
wishbone : -51
maxfisher : -49
wendersfan : -48
Nick Danger : -47
jdodd : -46
Birrman54 : -45
The Bus : -45
frenchy : -44
Jason : -44
wmansir : -44
DSC4 : -41
CRM114 : -36
achau9598 : -35
belboz : -35
feenst : -24
arminius : -21
Thor Simpson : -18

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:18 AM
Question 6. Name one of the 19th century industrialists who were refered to as Robber Barons. 1-pt. Bonus: Name what industry they were primarily associated with.

<img src="http://www.hotelchatter.com/files/admin/fatcats.jpg">

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 09:28 AM
Well, guess that shows my age... I never watched one full episode of Leno, ever. :lol:

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:30 AM
Andrew Carnegie (7): arminius, feenst, frenchy, Jason, JasonF, Pharoh, wishbone

John D. Rockefeller (14): achau9598, Birrman54, DSC4, jdodd, maxfisher, missflores, Nick Danger, orangecrush18, Palaver, Rockmjd23, Tracer Bullet, Venusian, wendersfan, wmansir

Cornelius Vanderbilt (2): belboz, CRM114

JP Morgan (0): The Bus

Beats the hell out of me: Thor Simpson

The following people did not get a bonus due to a wrong answer. I will list them in chronological order:

DeltaSigChi4 (Rockefeller was not in "banking i.e. stealing").

That is all.

wendersfan
06-09-09, 09:30 AM
Well, guess that shows my age... I never watched one full episode of Leno, ever. :lol:Neither have I. Like I said, I just guessed.

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:32 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -80 </font>
orangecrush18 : -77
JasonF : -76
missflores : -75
Palaver : -72
Venusian : -71
Rockmjd23 : -69
Tracer Bullet : -67
maxfisher : -64
wendersfan : -63
Nick Danger : -62
jdodd : -61
Birrman54 : -60
wishbone : -59
wmansir : -59
DSC4 : -55
frenchy : -52
Jason : -52
achau9598 : -50
The Bus : -46
CRM114 : -39
belboz : -38
feenst : -32
arminius : -29
Thor Simpson : -18

CRM114
06-09-09, 09:34 AM
Nestling right into my comfort zone.

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:34 AM
Question 7. Name one of the original thirteen colonies.

<img src="http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/maps/english_colonies/Colonies_1763.jpg">

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 09:35 AM
Hey, wait. What about the bonus on question 7?

Venusian
06-09-09, 09:36 AM
Didn't Rock a Fella do hip hop?

orangecrush
06-09-09, 09:36 AM
I really hope all the talk of philly teams during the last game paid off here.

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 09:38 AM
Didn't he say he'd calculate the bonuses after we've gone through every question?

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:38 AM
Connecticut / Maryland: The Bus, achau9598

Mass (5): belboz, feenst, Nick Danger, Palaver, Jason

New York (2): Venusian, arminius

Penn (7): CRM114, DSC4, JasonF, orangecrush18, Rockmjd23, wishbone, wmansir

Virginia (9): Birrman54, frenchy, jdodd, maxfisher, missflores, Pharoh, Thor Simpson, Tracer Bullet, wendersfan

I don't know what I was doing.

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:39 AM
Hey, wait. What about the bonus on question 7?

The 1-pt mini bonus for correct industry was awarded to everyone except those on the list at the bottom of the post. Your scores reflect the bonus.

orangecrush
06-09-09, 09:41 AM
I think that there is mounting evidence that JasonF and I are, in fact, the same person.

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:41 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -89 </font>
missflores : -84
orangecrush18 : -84
JasonF : -83
Palaver : -77
Rockmjd23 : -76
Tracer Bullet : -76
maxfisher : -73
Venusian : -73
wendersfan : -72
jdodd : -70
Birrman54 : -69
Nick Danger : -67
wishbone : -66
wmansir : -66
DSC4 : -62
frenchy : -61
Jason : -57
achau9598 : -50
CRM114 : -46
The Bus : -46
belboz : -43
feenst : -37
arminius : -31
Thor Simpson : -27

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:42 AM
Question 8. ×2 Name a NASA space shuttle that did not blow up.

<img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/371257413_bf7a7b2131.jpg">

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:44 AM
Apollo: feenst

Apollo 11 (4): orangecrush18, DSC4

Apollo 13: frenchy

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Ksc-69pc-442.jpg/477px-Ksc-69pc-442.jpg">

Where, exactly, is the Space Shuttle in this picture?

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:46 AM
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/2003_Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster.PNG">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/STS-107-Debris_KSC_Hangar.jpg/800px-STS-107-Debris_KSC_Hangar.jpg">

Columbia: wendersfan

Venusian
06-09-09, 09:46 AM
wow. really?

wendersfan
06-09-09, 09:47 AM
wow. really?Yeah, I'm woefully ignorant of many basic facts. I usually just don't post about those things here. :lol:

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 09:48 AM
Rare wendersfan historical fact fail!

orangecrush
06-09-09, 09:49 AM
Apollo: feenst

Apollo 11 (4): orangecrush18, DSC4

Apollo 13: frenchy

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Ksc-69pc-442.jpg/477px-Ksc-69pc-442.jpg">

Where, exactly, is the Space Shuttle in this picture?Did you edit the question after I submited my response. I had down that you asked specificly about Apollo's.

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:49 AM
Which leaves:

Atlantis (6): achau, JasonF, Venusian

Discovery (20): CRM114, Jason, jdodd, maxfisher, missflores, Palaver, Pharoh, Rockmjd23, Tracer Bullet, wmansir

Endeavour (4): belboz, The Bus

Enterprise (10): arminius, Birrman54, Nick Danger, Thor Simpson, wishbone


I am doing awful.

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:50 AM
Did you edit the question after I submited my response. I had down that you asked specificly about Apollo's.

Nope. But cheer up! You got as many points as I did. And I answered correctly.

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 09:50 AM
The 1-pt mini bonus for correct industry was awarded to everyone except those on the list at the bottom of the post. Your scores reflect the bonus.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks. :thumbsup:

wendersfan
06-09-09, 09:52 AM
Rare wendersfan historical fact fail!I kept fixating on Challenger and forgot totally about Columbia. :shrug:

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:52 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -109 </font>
missflores : -104
Palaver : -97
Rockmjd23 : -96
Tracer Bullet : -96
maxfisher : -93
jdodd : -90
JasonF : -89
orangecrush18 : -88
wmansir : -86
Birrman54 : -79
Venusian : -79
Jason : -77
Nick Danger : -77
wishbone : -76
wendersfan : -72
CRM114 : -66
DSC4 : -66
frenchy : -61
achau9598 : -56
The Bus : -50
belboz : -47
arminius : -41
feenst : -37
Thor Simpson : -37

Formerly known as missflores
06-09-09, 09:53 AM
Nope. But cheer up! You got as many points as I did. And I answered correctly.

The Bus Looks like you were playing reverse sheep.

Venusian
06-09-09, 09:54 AM
I got less points on my answer than the shuttle that didn't even have engines

The Bus
06-09-09, 09:58 AM
Question 9. Name a United States state capital with more than ten letters in its name.

Harrisburg: wmansir

Indianapolis (3): maxfisher, wendersfan, wishbone

Montepelier [sic] (2): achau9598, Birrman54
(yes, they both added the "e" at the end of the French word Mont)

Oklahoma City (4): jdodd, orangecrush18, Palaver, Thor Simpson

Philadelphia: Nick Danger

Sacramento (2): CRM114, Jason

Salt Lake City: belboz

Springfield (5): arminius, DSC4, feenst, JasonF, missflores

Tallahassee (6): frenchy, Pharoh, Rockmjd23, The Bus, Tracer Bullet, Venusian

orangecrush
06-09-09, 09:59 AM
Nope. But cheer up! You got as many points as I did. And I answered correctly.How is that supposed to me me feel better?

CRM114
06-09-09, 09:59 AM
Tallahassee?

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:01 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -115 </font>
missflores : -109
Rockmjd23 : -102
Tracer Bullet : -102
Palaver : -101
maxfisher : -96
JasonF : -94
jdodd : -94
orangecrush18 : -92
wmansir : -86
Venusian : -85
Birrman54 : -81
Jason : -79
wishbone : -79
Nick Danger : -77
wendersfan : -75
DSC4 : -71
CRM114 : -68
frenchy : -67
achau9598 : -58
The Bus : -56
belboz : -47
arminius : -46
feenst : -42
Thor Simpson : -41

wendersfan
06-09-09, 10:01 AM
Tallahassee?At least it's got more than ten letters, unlike Sacramento.

frenchy
06-09-09, 10:03 AM
Question 9. Name a United States state capital with more than ten letters in its name.

Harrisburg: wmansir

Sacramento (2): CRM114, Jason


Why are those correct?

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:03 AM
Let's clear the field! It's time for Reverse Sheep!

<img src="http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2008/02/zamboni.jpg">

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:04 AM
Why are those correct?

Wrong answers aren't penalized in Sheep.

wendersfan
06-09-09, 10:04 AM
Why are those correct?Because being correct only matters in reverse sheep?

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:05 AM
I have a very long, long way to the top. But I intend to claw my way at least to the Top Quartile! TOP QUARTILE!!!

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:06 AM
Question 10. Since Black Monday on October 28, 1929, the United States has gone through a number of economic contractions, as defined by the National Bureau of Economic Research. Name one of them by name or a month and year when we were in contraction.

http://wwwdev.nber.org/cycles/cyclesmain.html

CRM114
06-09-09, 10:07 AM
Because being correct only matters in reverse sheep?

I evidently have no understanding of the rules. :lol:

frenchy
06-09-09, 10:07 AM
I know I got this one wrong.

wishbone
06-09-09, 10:08 AM
At least it's got more than ten letters, unlike Sacramento.Sacramento was my first guess but it had ten letters and not more than...

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 10:08 AM
Wow, I cleaned up on Sheep. I have redeemed myself for that awful showing last time.

CRM114
06-09-09, 10:08 AM
Or this question for that matter.

Venusian
06-09-09, 10:08 AM
Tallahassee?

First correct answer alphabettically (by state) :shrugs:

orangecrush
06-09-09, 10:10 AM
Let's get to the arguments.

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 10:11 AM
I'm pretty much accusing you all of googling after last time. Be prepared.

CRM114
06-09-09, 10:12 AM
I'm pretty much accusing you all of googling after last time. Be prepared.

Based on my ranking, I'd find that hard to believe. :lol:

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:14 AM
I'm going through all the answers. This one will take a few minutes to tabulate. So far, only three people have given a wrong answer, because they assumed the stock market crash of 1987 lead to an overall economic contraction. That's impossible. Reagan was in full power! He could do no wrong!

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 10:14 AM
I'm pretty much accusing you all of googling after last time. Be prepared.

I'll sue you for defamation, because that's disgusting.

JasonF! Represent me!

wendersfan
06-09-09, 10:15 AM
I'll sue you for defamation, because that's disgusting.

JasonF! Represent me!If JasonF is busy you could get Pharoh or orangecrush, since they seem to be the same person.

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 10:16 AM
If JasonF is busy you could get Pharoh or orangecrush, since they seem to be the same person.

:lol:

orangecrush
06-09-09, 10:21 AM
If JasonF is busy you could get Pharoh or orangecrush, since they seem to be the same person.You don't want me representing you. I am the heartless part.

JasonF
06-09-09, 10:40 AM
If JasonF is busy you could get Pharoh or orangecrush, since they seem to be the same person.

Sorry. I was tied up <strike>posting under one of my other screen names</strike> in a meeting.

Rockmjd, on behalf of Tracer Bullet, I'm serving you with a motion to order you to cease and desist forthwith all accusations of Googling, Wikipediaing, Yahooing, or Asking Jeeves against my client, Tracer Bullet.

Tracer, you'll be receiving my bill for $11,000.

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:41 AM
The Recession of 1960-1 / April 1960 to February 1961 (0): Tracer Bullet

The Great Depression / August 1929 to March 1933 (0): Arminius

The Eisenhower Depression / August 1957 to April 1958 (0): JasonF

The Great Recession / December 2007 to Present (7): feenst, jdodd, orangecrush18, Palaver, Thor Simpson, Venusian, wishbone

Recession of 1945 / February 1945 to October 1945 (0): Pharoh

Recession of 1980 / January 1980 to July 1980 (0): The Bus

Stagflation & Oil Crisis / November 1973 to March 1975 (0): Birrman54

S&L Crisis / July 1981 to November 1982 (0): Nick Danger

Early 90s Recession / July 1990 to March 1991 (2): wendersfan, wmansir

Post-Dotcom Recession / March 2001 to November 2001 (3): maxfisher, missflores, Rockmjd23

Remember, Wrong Answers are now counted two above the most common answer (plus multiplier).

Wrong Answers (9): Crash of 87 (CRM), Jan 1992 (belboz), Oct 1987 (Jason), Oct 1989 (frenchy), Super Tuesday (achau9598), no answer (DSC4)

Pharoh
06-09-09, 10:42 AM
Just a quick check in, as I won't be around until later today.

Thanks JasonF and Orangecrush!

:)

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:44 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -115 </font>
missflores : -106
Tracer Bullet : -102
Rockmjd23 : -99
JasonF : -94
Palaver : -94
maxfisher : -93
jdodd : -87
orangecrush18 : -85
wmansir : -84
Birrman54 : -81
Venusian : -78
Nick Danger : -77
wendersfan : -73
wishbone : -72
Jason : -70
DSC4 : -62
CRM114 : -59
frenchy : -58
The Bus : -56
achau9598 : -49
arminius : -46
belboz : -38
feenst : -35
Thor Simpson : -34

I can't believe as of this point I am behind both CRM114 and DeltaSigChi4.

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:45 AM
Question 11. Name a woman or African-American that has run for president or vice president in a general election in the United States.

<img src="http://www.fantasticdamage.com/blog/alankeyes.jpg">

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 10:46 AM
Wow you people know your Depressions...or maybe GOOGLE DOES!

The Bus
06-09-09, 10:49 AM
Wow you people know your Depressions...or maybe GOOGLE DOES!

Most people were smart and vaguely described the recession (under a term that is actually known). If they went for dates, they went for them mostly successfully. It looks like only the stock market crash of 1987 really caused some problems for some.

JasonF
06-09-09, 10:51 AM
Wow you people know your Depressions...or maybe GOOGLE DOES!

Sure. Because it's not as if discussions of various historical economic downturns haven't been all over the news for the past few months or anything. WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING ABOUT MY CLIENT!?

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:00 AM
Alan Keyes (4): achau, belbox, Bman, Jason

Barack Obama (3): frenchy, orangecrush18, Rockmjd23 <--- Googlers -ohbfrank-

Cynthia McKinney (2): DSC4, Venusian

Geraldine Ferraro (4): jdodd, Nick Danger, Palaver, wishbone

Hillary Clinton (2): arminius, Thor

Sarah "You Betcha" Palin (2): missflores, wmansir

Winona LaDuke (3): CRM, Bus, Tracer

Unique Answers: Angela Davis (wendersfan), Gail Lightfoot (feenst), Lenora Fulani (Pharoh)

Would Shirley Chisholm and Al Sharpton count, since they were never their party's candidates?

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 11:01 AM
:lol:

wendersfan
06-09-09, 11:01 AM
Would Shirley Chisholm and Al Sharpton count, since they were never their party's candidates?
They weren't candidates in any <i>general</i> election for the presidency or vice-presidency.

orangecrush
06-09-09, 11:03 AM
Alan Keyes (4): achau, belbox, Bman, Jason

Barack Obama (3): frenchy, orangecrush18, Rockmjd23 <--- Googlers -ohbfrank-

Cynthia McKinney (2): DSC4, Venusian

Geraldine Ferraro (4): jdodd, Nick Danger, Palaver, wishbone

Hillary Clinton (2): arminius, Thor

Sarah "You Betcha" Palin (2): missflores, wmansir

Winona LaDuke (3): CRM, Bus, Tracer

Unique Answers: Angela Davis (wendersfan), Gail Lightfoot (feenst), Lenora Fulani (Pharoh)

Would Shirley Chisholm and Al Sharpton count, since they were never their party's candidates?
When was Hillary Clinton a party candidate? Also, I vote no on the other two unless they ran independent.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:04 AM
Hillary Clinton is also an incorrect answer.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:05 AM
Wrong Answers (6): Chisholm, Sharpton, Clinton (JasonF, maxfisher, arminius, Thor Simpson)

JasonF
06-09-09, 11:05 AM
I'm pretty sure "General election" wasn't in the question when I answered it. ;)

But if Shirley doesn't count, then neither does Hillary Clinton.

orangecrush
06-09-09, 11:05 AM
I would argue about more, but I really have no idea who most of those people are. One thing I do know: we need more Cynthia McKinney pictures.

CRM114
06-09-09, 11:07 AM
Wow you people know your Depressions...or maybe GOOGLE DOES!

Yep. Unlike me who is most obviously not using Google. :)

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 11:07 AM
I would argue about more, but I really have no idea who most of those people are. One thing I do know: we need more Cynthia McKinney pictures.
The rest of them did actually get on the ballot in at least one state in the general election. I forgot Keys made up his own party after failing to get the Republican and Constitution nominations.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:07 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -115 </font>
missflores : -104
Tracer Bullet : -99
Rockmjd23 : -96
Palaver : -90
JasonF : -88
maxfisher : -87
jdodd : -83
orangecrush18 : -82
wmansir : -82
Birrman54 : -77
Venusian : -76
Nick Danger : -73
wendersfan : -73
wishbone : -68
Jason : -66
DSC4 : -60
CRM114 : -56
frenchy : -55
The Bus : -53
achau9598 : -45
arminius : -40
feenst : -35
belboz : -34
Thor Simpson : -28

wendersfan
06-09-09, 11:07 AM
I would argue about more, but I really have no idea who most of those people are. One thing I do know: we need more Cynthia McKinney pictures.Most of them were vice-presidential nominees of various minor/fringe parties - Greens, Communists, etc.

orangecrush
06-09-09, 11:08 AM
I'm pretty sure "General election" wasn't in the question when I answered it. ;)Welcome to <strike>our</strike> my world.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:08 AM
Question 12. Name a state that has ten or more members in the House of Representatives of the 111th Congress.

<img src="http://navaniknows.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/puerto-rico-flag.gif">

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111th_Congress#House_of_Representatives_3

orangecrush
06-09-09, 11:09 AM
Most of them were vice-presidential nominees of various minor/fringe parties - Greens, Communists, etc.Thanks. Now where are my Cynthia McKinney pictures?

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 11:09 AM
Puerto Rico? :lol:

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:16 AM
<img src="http://catmas.com/images/2006/10/arnie-cat.jpg">
California (3): achau9598, orangecrush18, DSC4


<img src="http://www.floridafail.com/forum/templates/SwiftBlue/images/logo_phpBB.gif">
Florida (3): jdodd, missflores, Tracer Bullet


<img src="http://mentaldefective.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/illinoise.jpg">
Illinois (2): maxfisher, wmansir


Album cover, painted: http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/12304-oh-ohio.jpg
Ohio (3): arminius, Pharoh, wishbone


<img src="http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/colehamels.jpg">
Pennsylvania (6): CRM114, feenst, Jason, JasonF, Nick Danger, Rockmjd23


<img src="http://www.doublespeakshow.com/images/2006/08/macaca.jpg">
Virginia (2): frenchy, Thor Simpson

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:17 AM
<img src="http://jcrue.files.wordpress.com/2006/04/cynthia_mckinney_mr.gif">

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 11:17 AM
Sorry. I was tied up <strike>posting under one of my other screen names</strike> in a meeting.

Rockmjd, on behalf of Tracer Bullet, I'm serving you with a motion to order you to cease and desist forthwith all accusations of Googling, Wikipediaing, Yahooing, or Asking Jeeves against my client, Tracer Bullet.

Tracer, you'll be receiving my bill for $11,000.

Awesome, thanks. You take Monopoly money, right?

JasonF
06-09-09, 11:18 AM
Pennsylvania (6): CRM114, feenst, Jason, JasonF, Nick Danger, Rockmjd23

In your face, lo ... wait. Reverse sheep!?

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:20 AM
Uniques: Palaver (GA), Venusian (NY), The Bus (NC)

Wrongs (8): belboz (WA), wisconsinfan (WI), Birrman (MD)

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 11:20 AM
I was going for the bonus points, which will be negated by the fact that everyone else was too.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:21 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -112 </font>
missflores : -101
Tracer Bullet : -96
Palaver : -90
Rockmjd23 : -90
maxfisher : -85
JasonF : -82
jdodd : -80
wmansir : -80
orangecrush18 : -79
Venusian : -76
Birrman54 : -69
Nick Danger : -67
wendersfan : -65
wishbone : -65
Jason : -60
DSC4 : -57
frenchy : -53
The Bus : -53
CRM114 : -50
achau9598 : -42
arminius : -37
feenst : -29
belboz : -26
Thor Simpson : -26

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:22 AM
Question 13. Name a country that is known to have nuclear weapons. "Known" means that the country is recognized as having weapons by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, or has conducted a test of a nuclear weapon.

<img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2273/2444162415_60376c3444.jpg">

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:24 AM
If your country is a color that's not gray or green, you're probably OK.

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Nuclear_weapons_states.svg/800px-Nuclear_weapons_states.svg.png">

orangecrush
06-09-09, 11:24 AM
<img src="http://jcrue.files.wordpress.com/2006/04/cynthia_mckinney_mr.gif">Thanks Bus. You always deliver.

orangecrush
06-09-09, 11:25 AM
South Africa has nukes?

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 11:27 AM
South Africa had nukes in the 80s but they don't anymore.

wendersfan
06-09-09, 11:28 AM
South Africa has nukes?Yeah, but it's OK because by policy they keep the Plutonium and Uranium segregated.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:28 AM
France (8): belboz, Birrman54, feenst, Jason, jdodd, Pharoh, Thor Simpson, wendersfan

India (3): frenchy, JasonF, Nick Danger

Pakistan (2): Rockmjd23, Venusian

USA! USA! USA! (7): achau9598, CRM114, DSC4, missflores, orangecrush18,
Palaver, wishbone

Uniques: wmansir (China), arminius (England), Tracer Bullet (Israel), The Bus (Russia)

Wrong (10): maxfisher (Canada)

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:29 AM
Yeah, but it's OK because by policy they keep the Plutonium and Uranium segregated.

:lol: 5/5

wendersfan
06-09-09, 11:29 AM
Technically, England isn't a country, just a football team.

Jeremy517
06-09-09, 11:31 AM
I don't think Israel counts. They almost assuredly do have nuclear weapons, but they don't fit the question's requirements.

Edit: Depends on whether you count Vela as an Israeli test or not.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:31 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -104 </font>
Tracer Bullet : -96
missflores : -94
Rockmjd23 : -88
Palaver : -83
wmansir : -80
JasonF : -79
maxfisher : -75
Venusian : -74
jdodd : -72
orangecrush18 : -72
Nick Danger : -64
Birrman54 : -61
wishbone : -58
wendersfan : -57
The Bus : -53
Jason : -52
DSC4 : -50
frenchy : -50
CRM114 : -43
arminius : -37
achau9598 : -35
feenst : -21
belboz : -18
Thor Simpson : -18

Venusian
06-09-09, 11:31 AM
Stupid recession question. I thought if i got the month unique, i'd get points, didn't realize i'd be grouped up with the rest of the montsh of the recession

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:32 AM
I don't think Israel counts. They almost assuredly do, but they don't fit the question's requirements.

Edit: Depends on whether you count Vela as an Israeli test or not.

You didn't play. :(

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 11:33 AM
They aren't a member of NNPT and have never been confirmed to have tested a nuke.

Jeremy517
06-09-09, 11:34 AM
You didn't play. :(

Yeah, in filling out my answers, I realized that I saw way too many possible answers when I was coming up with questions. I had to disqualify myself.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:35 AM
Business nerds, here's your chance to overtake the polisci / liberal arts dodos!

Question 14. Name a stock exchange with a market value of at least 400 billion dollars. You can name it by its name (NYSE) or main stock market index (DJIA). There's at least fifteen.

<img src="http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/wp-content/uploads/nasdaq.jpg">

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:35 AM
JasonF, defend your client!

JasonF
06-09-09, 11:39 AM
I don't think Israel counts. They almost assuredly do have nuclear weapons, but they don't fit the question's requirements.

Edit: Depends on whether you count Vela as an Israeli test or not.

I know Tracer is my client and all, and I should be sticking up for him, but since he paid me in monopoly money, I have to say that I agree with Jeremy (and I don't think Vela counts).

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:40 AM
Here are some stock exchanges which qualify:

New York Stock Exchange
Tokyo Stock Exchange
NASDAQ
Euronext
London Stock Exchange
Shanghai Stock Exchange
Hong Kong Stock Exchange
Toronto Stock Exchange
Frankfurt Stock Exchange*(Deutsche Börse)
Madrid Stock Exchange*(Bolsas y Mercados Españoles)
Swiss Exchange
Bombay Stock Exchange
São Paulo Stock Exchange
Australian Securities Exchange
National Stock Exchange of India
Nordic Stock Exchange Group*OMX1
Korea Exchange
Milan Stock Exchange*(Borsa Italiana)
Johannesburg Securities Exchange

Some people answered with indices, which is OK, since I just converted it to what the exchange was. One exception was orangecrush18, who answered Wilshire 5000, a cross-market index.

JasonF
06-09-09, 11:41 AM
JasonF, defend your client!

Post #200 is dead wrong. Perhaps Israel does not fall within the technical definitions set forth in the question, but we all udnerstood the question to be asking about countries with nuclear weapons capabilities, and we all know that Israel meets those parameters. Besides, if you don't count Israel as a correct answer, you open yourself up to accusations of anti-semitism.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:43 AM
achau, find where NYSE Amex Equities's market value is over $400bn.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:45 AM
wishbone, the Chicago Merc trades in derivatives, not stocks.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:48 AM
Wrong Answers (7): achau, wishbone, Palaver (Google?), orangecrush18

JasonF
06-09-09, 11:51 AM
Wrong Answers (7): achau, wishbone, Palaver (Google?), orangecrush18

The funny thing is that I had to check to see if Google's market cap was above $400 billion (I know it's not an exchange, but still).

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:52 AM
New York Stock Exchange / NYSE Composite / Dow Jones Industrial Average (5): DSC4, frenchy, maxfisher, Thor Simpson, Venusian

London Stock Exchange / Footsie (4): JasonF, Nick Danger, Tracer Bullet, wendersfan

National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotations / NAQSDAQ 100 (3): belboz, Birrman54, CRM114

東京証券取引所 / Tōkyō Shōken Torihikisho / TSE / Nikkei (4): feenst, Jason, jdodd, missflores

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 11:53 AM
Israel is regarded by the International Atomic Energy Agency to have nuclear weapons. The NNPT is not a requirement.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:53 AM
Uniques: wmansir (Euronext), The Bus (Deutsche Börse), Rockmjd23 (Hong Kong), arminius (한국거래소 / KRX), Pharoh (Swiss Market Index)

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:55 AM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -104 </font>
Tracer Bullet : -92 *
missflores : -90
Rockmjd23 : -88
wmansir : -80
Palaver : -76
JasonF : -75
maxfisher : -70
Venusian : -69
jdodd : -68
orangecrush18 : -65
Nick Danger : -60
Birrman54 : -58
The Bus : -53
wendersfan : -53
wishbone : -51
Jason : -48
DSC4 : -45
frenchy : -45
CRM114 : -40
arminius : -37
achau9598 : -28
feenst : -17
belboz : -15
Thor Simpson : -13

* Pending continued discussion of whether Israel has nuclear weapons.

Tracer Bullet
06-09-09, 11:56 AM
I have to go to lunch now, so I would only ask that if I need to defend Israel in any additional way that a decision be postponed until 2:30EST. Thanks.

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:57 AM
Question 15. Name a present-day country which was entirely under Axis control for at least a 12 month period during World War II.

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Ww2_allied_axis.gif">

The Bus
06-09-09, 11:57 AM
I have to go to lunch now, so I would only ask that if I need to defend Israel in any additional way that a decision be postponed until 2:30EST. Thanks.

90 minute lunches? La tee da.

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 11:59 AM
Israel should count when discussing nuclear countries, but the problem is it doesn't meet either of The Bus' requirements in the question.

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:00 PM
Discuss: China and France as answers.

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:02 PM
Note the question said "entirely" under Axis control.

wendersfan
06-09-09, 12:03 PM
Discuss: China and France as answers.China and France both have nuclear weapons. What is there to discuss?








;)

Venusian
06-09-09, 12:03 PM
discuss: china and france as answers.

wrong!

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:03 PM
In the meantime:

Austria (2): missflores, Pharoh

Germany (5): achau9598, arminius, DSC4, maxfisher, orangecrush18

Italy (4): CRM114, jdodd, Thor Simpson, Venusian

Luxembourg (2): belboz, Jason

Poland (2): frenchy, The Bus

Romania (2): wendersfan, Rockmjd23

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:05 PM
Uniques: JasonF (Bulgaria), Birrman54 (Denmark), feenst (Japan), wmansir (Phillipines), Tracer Bullet (South Korea)

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 12:05 PM
I'd say yes on France. It formally surrendered to Germany in 1940 and was under its control for most of the remainder of the war. I'd say no on China because only sections were controlled by Japan.

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:06 PM
Wrong (7): China, France, Vichy France (Nick Danger, Palaver, wishbone)

* Pending appeal

Venusian
06-09-09, 12:06 PM
South Korea wasn't a country then, right?

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:07 PM
South Korea wasn't a country then, right?

Nope. We're talking about present-day countries.

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:10 PM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -102 </font>
Tracer Bullet : -92 *
missflores : -88
Rockmjd23 : -86
wmansir : -80
JasonF : -75
Palaver : -69 **
maxfisher : -65
Venusian : -65
jdodd : -64
orangecrush18 : -60
Birrman54 : -58
Nick Danger : -53
The Bus : -51
wendersfan : -51
Jason : -46
wishbone : -44 **
frenchy : -43
DSC4 : -40
CRM114 : -36
arminius : -32
achau9598 : -23
feenst : -17
belboz : -13
Thor Simpson : -9

* Under Israeli review.
** Under French review.

Jeremy517
06-09-09, 12:11 PM
France from Nov 1942 - 1944 would count, I think?

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:11 PM
Question 16. Name one of the main service branches of the United States armed forces.

<img src="http://beachcave.net/comics/Beetle%20Bailey-2009.02.15">

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:14 PM
This one was surprisingly even.

Air Force (6)
Birrman54
jdodd
missflores
orangecrush18
The Bus
Tracer Bullet

Army (7)
CRM114
frenchy
maxfisher
Nick Danger
Palaver
Pharoh
Rockmjd23

Coast Guard (5)
belboz
DSC4
Jason
wishbone
wmansir


Marine Corps (4)
arminius
feenst
JasonF
Thor Simpson


Navy (3)
achau9598
Venusian
wendersfan

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:15 PM
Standings<br> <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #CCFB5D">
Pharoh : -95 </font>
Tracer Bullet : -86 *
missflores : -82
Rockmjd23 : -79
wmansir : -75
JasonF : -71
Palaver : -62 **
Venusian : -62
jdodd : -58
maxfisher : -58
orangecrush18 : -54
Birrman54 : -52
wendersfan : -48
Nick Danger : -46
The Bus : -45
Jason : -41
wishbone : -39 **
frenchy : -36
DSC4 : -35
CRM114 : -29
arminius : -28
achau9598 : -20
feenst : -13
belboz : -8
Thor Simpson : -5

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:17 PM
In the Monopoly game, non-standard versions should count as wrong, correct?

wendersfan
06-09-09, 12:17 PM
Tracer Bullet, Palaver and wishbone - the Roger Maris, Pete Rose, and Barry Bonds of the Politics forum Sheep League. :)

JasonF
06-09-09, 12:19 PM
Uniques: Tracer Bullet (South Korea)

I hate to do this to my client again, but I'm not sure this should count -- South Korea wasn't a country until after WW II.

Never mind -- it's already been addressed.

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:20 PM
Question 17. ×2 The United States has broken up many monopolies over the years. Name one of the spaces a player can land on in the game Monopoly.

<img src="http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/monopoly-board.png">

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:20 PM
I hate to do this to my client again, but I'm not sure this should count -- South Korea wasn't a country until after WW II.

South Korea is a present-day country. The land that is currently South Korea was under Axis control in WW2.

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 12:21 PM
I hate to do this to my client again, but I'm not sure this should count -- South Korea wasn't a country until after WW II.
The question asked for a present-day country. All of present-day South Korea was under Axis control.

Edit: Quick someone else refute it too!

JasonF
06-09-09, 12:22 PM
The question asked for a present-day country. All of present-day South Korea was under Axis control.

You googled that, didn't you?

Venusian
06-09-09, 12:22 PM
I passed up bonus points on New York Ave for reverse sheep points. Let's see if it was worth it

Rockmjd23
06-09-09, 12:23 PM
Yes :(

orangecrush
06-09-09, 12:24 PM
New York Stock Exchange / NYSE Composite / Dow Jones Industrial Average (5): DSC4, frenchy, maxfisher, Thor Simpson, Venusian

London Stock Exchange / Footsie (4): JasonF, Nick Danger, Tracer Bullet, wendersfan

National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotations / NAQSDAQ 100 (3): belboz, Birrman54, CRM114

東京証券取引所 / Tōkyō Shōken Torihikisho / TSE / Nikkei (4): feenst, Jason, jdodd, missfloresHow exactly does the Dow count and not the Wilshire 5000?

Edit to add: Or the NAQSDAQ 100 or the footsie?

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:25 PM
Wrong Answers (10): Main Avenue (DSC4), Mandarin Gardens (orangecrush18), <s>Mayfair (Tracer Bullet)</s>

wmansir
06-09-09, 12:26 PM
I think France is correct. Vichy France is incorrect because it is not a present day country. China is incorrect because it was only partially occupied.

France was either directly occupied by German powers or the Axis puppet Vichy French. The Vichy's legitimacy was disputed and while not technically an Axis power they did take take up arms and fight along side the Axis against the Allies in North Africa.

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:26 PM
How exactly does the Dow count and not the Wilshire 5000?

The Dow is an average of 30 stocks on the NYSE. The Wilshire 5000 combines the Dow, the Nasdaq, and the Amex.

orangecrush
06-09-09, 12:29 PM
Marvin, I meant Marvin. Oh, Crap!

orangecrush
06-09-09, 12:30 PM
The Dow is an average of 30 stocks on the NYSE. The Wilshire 5000 combines the Dow, the Nasdaq, and the Amex.:( that is all.

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:30 PM
B&O Railroad (4): belboz, jdodd

Luxury Tax (4): Birrman54, CRM114

Pennsylvania Avenue (6): Rockmjd23, feenst, JasonF

Reading Railroad (4): wendersfan, arminius

Virginia Avenue (4): Thor, frenchy

All other answers Unique:
Connecticut (The Bus)
Go to Jail (maxfisher)
Jail / Just Visiting (wishbone)
Marvin Gardens (Palaver)
New York Avenue (Nick Danger)
Penn Railroad (wmansir)
St. Charles Place (Jason)
St. James Place (achau)
States Avenue (missflores)
Vermont Avenue (Pharoh)
Water Works (Venusian)

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:31 PM
Remember wrong answers are 2 points times the ×2 multiplier, so it's 4 points above the most common answer.

The Bus
06-09-09, 12:32 PM
How does everyone feel about Tracer's use of "Mayfair" (the UK version of Boardwalk) as an answer. I think it is wrong.

wishbone
06-09-09, 12:32 PM
Tracer Bullet, Palaver and wishbone - the Roger Maris, Pete Rose, and Barry Bonds of the Politics forum Sheep League. :)Um, *thanks!


*I'm guessing I am Barry... :doh:

orangecrush
06-09-09, 12:32 PM
Watch out Thor, here I come.

orangecrush
06-09-09, 12:33 PM
How does everyone feel about Tracer's use of "Mayfair" (the UK version of Boardwalk) as an answer. I think it is wrong.Is he an English bloke?

orangecrush
06-09-09, 12:33 PM
I would vote no, but let him give a defense.