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Goldberg74
07-05-09, 06:41 PM
'Transformers,' 'Ice Age' tie at boxoffice
By Carl DiOrio
July 5, 2009, 02:06 PM ET

The weekend battle for boxoffice supremacy remains caught in a haze of holiday fireworks.

Paramount's effects-driven actioner "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" and Fox's 3D animated family threequel "Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs" each posted weekend grosses estimated at $42.5 million pending today's final studio numbers. The "Transformers" sequel -- produced by Paramount, DreamWorks and Hasbro -- fell 61% in its second weekend for $293.5 million in cumulative boxoffice through 12 days of domestic release.

"Ice Age" boasts a $67.5 million cume since bowing Wednesday. Universal's Johnny Depp starrer "Public Enemies" finished the three-day Fourth of July session in third place with $26.2 million in weekend boxoffice, capping a five-day debut of $41 million.

Both wide openers performed roughly as anticipated, so the tight race for No. 1 represented a modest underperformance by the "Transformers" sequel through the competitive holiday frame.

read more... (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3if52b9a5b28d70b339b7af56c47d8f59e)

Here are the numbers (according to Box Office Mojo):

1 N Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs Fox $42,500,000 - 4,099 - $10,368 $67,506,000 $90 1
2 1 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $42,500,000 -61.0% 4,234 - $10,038 $293,459,000 $200 2
3 N Public Enemies Uni. $26,172,000 - 3,334 - $7,850 $41,044,000 $100 1
4 2 The Proposal BV $12,779,000 -31.2% 3,099 +41 $4,124 $94,233,000 $40 3
5 3 The Hangover WB $10,415,000 -38.8% 3,070 -455 $3,393 $204,197,000 $35 5
6 4 Up BV $6,579,000 -49.6% 2,656 -831 $2,477 $264,873,000 $175 6
7 5 My Sister's Keeper WB $5,255,000 -57.8% 2,606 - $2,017 $25,964,000 $30 2
8 7 The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 Sony $2,500,000 -54.1% 1,908 -1,087 $1,310 $58,471,000 $100 4
9 6 Year One Sony $2,100,000 -65.1% 2,240 -784 $938 $38,088,000 $60 3
10 9 Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian Fox $2,100,000 -42.4% 1,419 -831 $1,480 $167,763,000 $150 7
11 8 Star Trek Par. $1,815,000 -51.1% 1,148 -675 $1,581 $249,847,000 $150 9

Goldberg74
07-05-09, 06:48 PM
Transformers 2 is a few days away from the $300M mark. :|

Star Trek is one day away from passing the $250M mark. :D:up:

The Hangover passes the $200M mark. :D

Land of the Lost (#18 w/ $293k take) won't even find $50M. :lol:

Mr.Briggs
07-05-09, 07:08 PM
I wonder which film will be # 1 tomorrow night when the actual figures come in. My money's on T2.

Daytripper
07-05-09, 07:23 PM
Did anyone expect "The Proposal" to do this well? At this rate it looks like it could do in the 120-140M range.

Drexl
07-05-09, 07:48 PM
Did anyone expect "The Proposal" to do this well? At this rate it looks like it could do in the 120-140M range.

I didn't. I guess I have to get used to seeing more Ryan Reynolds.

With "Manny" in the thread title, at first I was pleasantly surprised that Public Enemies did that well. I had forgotten the names of the Ice Age characters. :)

Solid Snake
07-05-09, 08:13 PM
I thought the title meant as in Michael Mann vs. Prime...forgot the Ice Age character's name.

cranberries fan
07-05-09, 08:46 PM
http://cdn.videogum.com/img/thumbnails/photos/hangover_toast.jpg

Sweet to hear about the best comedy of summer passing the 200M mark!

Roofies for everyone and let's forget the greatest night again!!!!

Dr Mabuse
07-05-09, 09:01 PM
Man...

Flunitrazepam rocks.

Then those dumbasses started raping people and no one wanted to ship it anymore.

rexinnih
07-06-09, 10:26 AM
Curious to see what the final numbers hold, but that's damn close.

Giles
07-06-09, 10:53 AM
Land of the Lost (#18 w/ $293k take) won't even find $50M. :lol:


serves it right. ;)

islandclaws
07-06-09, 11:03 AM
This has been an interesting summer at the box office so far. TF2 will hit $300m today, more than likely. ST hitting $250m is pretty rad. I'm willing to bet once final numbers come out Ice Age pulls off the win. I think a family film like that will get better Sun numbers than TF2.

Tracer Bullet
07-06-09, 11:53 AM
I called it. Star Trek out of the top 10 this weekend. Still, an amazing run.

Super X
07-06-09, 03:10 PM
I called it. Star Trek out of the top 10 this weekend. Still, an amazing run.

Interstingly enough, according to Showbizdata, though out for the entire weekend, Star Trek was at #10 on Sunday, beating out NATM.

Mr.Briggs
07-06-09, 03:19 PM
Boxofficeguru has Transformers 2 at $42.4 & Ice Age 3 ending up with $41.7.

stingermck
07-06-09, 03:21 PM
'Transformers' edges past 'Ice Age'

Updated studio estimates Monday made it pretty clear who was No. 1 in the photo-finish race for boxoffice supremacy this weekend, with Paramount's "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" topping the domestic pack with $42.4 million.

Final official data from Nielsen EDI will be released midday Monday. But morning updates from various studios consistently showed Fox's "Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs" in second place with less than $42 million in Friday-Sunday boxoffice. On Sunday, both Par and Fox estimated their pics had taken in a chart-topping $42.5 million in boxoffice over the three-day Fourth of July frame.

Sunday estimates showed the "Transformers" sequel toting a $293.5 million cume for its first 12 days in domestic release. The "Ice Age" three-quel boasted a $67.5 million cume since unspooling Wednesday.

Another film opening wide during the most recent session -- Universal's Johnny Depp starrer "Public Enemies" -- rung up $26.2 million for the weekend and $41 million since its Wednesday bow.


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3iba9a089c3eafb2f5d86969ac948ee6f1

From Variety...

Paramount’s “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen” won the July 4th weekend race at the domestic B.O. over 20th Century Fox’s 3-D toon “Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs.”

“Transformers 2” grossed roughly $42.4 million from 4,234 runs, while “Ice Age” grossed $41.6 million from 4,099 runs, according to preliminary numbers released Monday morning.

On Sunday, weekend estimates showed the two tentpoles ending the weekend in a dead-heat at $42.5 million each.

“Transformers 2”s” domestic cume through Sunday--its 12th day in release--was a massive $293.6 million.

“Ice Age 3’s” cume through Sunday was $66.6 million. Toon opened last Wednesday.

Weekend numbers may be adjusted slightly when final grosses are posted midday.

AnonomusBob15
07-06-09, 04:21 PM
Those are good numbers for Public Enemies. They can thank Depp for that.

Tracer Bullet
07-06-09, 04:47 PM
Interstingly enough, according to Showbizdata, though out for the entire weekend, Star Trek was at #10 on Sunday, beating out NATM.

Sunday has always been Trek's biggest day. No idea why.

starman9000
07-06-09, 04:50 PM
Sunday has always been Trek's biggest day. No idea why.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XhNsGX32ACs/RtGWszj-6kI/AAAAAAAAAKo/e6rqgthHY5Y/s320/church_of_trek.jpg

Matthew Chmiel
07-06-09, 05:20 PM
I'll be the first to say it, this weekend was disappointing. Huge takes for both Transformers and Ice Age on a worldwide scale, but nothing too hot domestically. Just looking at the past few years during this weekend...

2009: $155,486,083 ( Transformers 2 / Ice Age 3 / Public Enemies )
2008: $153,192,058 ( Hancock / Wall-E / Wanted )
2007: $165,449,282 ( Transformers / Ratatouille / Live Free or Die Hard)
2006: $143,676,704 ( Superman Returns / Devils Wears Prada / Click )

[The years consist of that weekend's top twelve films' grosses.]

So this weekend made $2 million more than last year's with two already established franchises whereas last year's had two original stories and a graphic novel adaptation --- and not nearly as much as two years ago (consisting of Transformers, an original story, and a sequel that a lot of people never asked for).

Not that impressive.

This upcoming weekend will be the biggest test for Transformers if it can make it to $400 million. The first film had consecutive weekend drops from 40-45%. If the sequel drops anywhere higher than 50% (which may be a huge possibility at this point), it will not have the legs to make it to $400 million. Good riddance, but next weekend will determine it's ultimate fate.

The same goes for Ice Age, the film is getting (much) better reviews than it's last outing, but if it drops more than 50%, the film will not have legs to coast it through the summer (not a good sign considering it's the last, big animated family movie of the summer).

I'm curious to see how much Bruno will take in next weekend. Word of mouth and press is running high at this moment and I'm curious to see if it'll do more than $40-45 million next weekend.

Mr. Cinema
07-06-09, 07:06 PM
TF2 is about $20 million ahead of Pirates 2: Dead Man's Chest, which is a comparable release, after 12 days. DMC dropped 54% during weekend 2, but didn't drop over 50% the rest of the way. I don't expect TF2 to have better holds than DMC, nor to get to that film's $423 mil US take. If it drops 50% during the week, I think it'll add about $25 million, which would put it at around $318 mil before the weekend. If it holds to 50% for next weekend, that would give it about $339 mil.

Assuming that all works out, can it add $61 mil the rest of the way, especially with Potter showing up next week?

Goat3001
07-06-09, 07:44 PM
I'll be the first to say it, this weekend was disappointing. Huge takes for both Transformers and Ice Age on a worldwide scale, but nothing too hot domestically. Just looking at the past few years during this weekend...

2009: $155,486,083 ( Transformers 2 / Ice Age 3 / Public Enemies )
2008: $153,192,058 ( Hancock / Wall-E / Wanted )
2007: $165,449,282 ( Transformers / Ratatouille / Live Free or Die Hard)
2006: $143,676,704 ( Superman Returns / Devils Wears Prada / Click )


To be fair, TF2 did get a head start since it opened last week. If it opened this week with Ice Age 3 and Public Enemies the total weekend gross would have been much higher.

Matthew Chmiel
07-07-09, 02:13 PM
To be fair, TF2 did get a head start since it opened last week. If it opened this week with Ice Age 3 and Public Enemies the total weekend gross would have been much higher.
Same thing similar happened to TF1 when it first opened (it opened the Monday prior to it's first weekend).

If everyone "loves" this film, why did it drop 61% in it's second weekend? Just throwing that out there. Even big blockbusters that have great WOM don't drop that big on a second weekend.

Son of Odin
07-07-09, 02:31 PM
Same thing similar happened to TF1 when it first opened (it opened the Monday prior to it's first weekend).

If everyone "loves" this film, why did it drop 61% in it's second weekend? Just throwing that out there. Even big blockbusters that have great WOM don't drop that big on a second weekend.

actually they do when it releases on a wednesday the week before. the movie will rest at about $420 million domestically when all said and done. people liked it to make that kind of dough.

Matthew Chmiel
07-07-09, 02:41 PM
the movie will rest at about $420 million domestically when all said and done.
No it won't. Analysts had it pegged at $300 million on Sunday. Didn't make it there. If it makes less than $7 million yesterday, won't hit that point until today.

Transformers is going to have a hell of a time to make it to $400 million. If it drops more than 50% this upcoming weekend, it won't make it. Especially with Harry Potter coming out in eight days.

Son of Odin
07-07-09, 03:50 PM
it will make $50 million more until potter hits. then it will limp there. eight days is a long ways since it has no competition this weekend. it will cross over $400m. guaranteed. remember this post.

Matthew Chmiel
07-07-09, 04:04 PM
it will make $50 million more until potter hits. then it will limp there. eight days is a long ways since it has no competition this weekend. it will cross over $400m. guaranteed. remember this post.
Of course, it'll make $50 million in the next eight days.

Based off the logic we have from it's current release, the next few days will play out like this:

Tuesday: $5.8 million
Wednesday: $4.7 million
Thursday: $5.0 million
Friday: $7.0 million
Saturday: $8.9 million
Sunday: $7.2 million
Monday: $3.4 million
Tuesday: $3.0 million

That's estimated $45 million there. Who knows how the third weekend box office can play out, but the way I have it set-up is that it's closer to 50% rather than say 60%.

That puts the film at $344 million if it is able to sustain a 50% drop. If it drops harder, it'll have a harder time getting to $400 million. It's possible, but if it continues to plummet, it may not get there.

It also loses 99.9% of it's IMAX showings come the end of the July, so legs will be cut off right from that as well.

Son of Odin
07-07-09, 04:17 PM
you're the one that said it wouldn't get to $420 million. if it averages around $6.5 million for the next five weekdays and pulls in around 30 million for the weekend, it will set at around $360 when potter hits. then it has 2 months of the summer left to get that extra $60million more. that is a guarantee. good for bay and great for transformers 2 and the long time fans of the franchise.

Supermallet
07-07-09, 04:46 PM
Mod Note: Consider this an official warning, Son of Odin. Personal attacks are not allowed.

Son of Odin
07-07-09, 05:12 PM
Mod Note: Consider this an official warning, Son of Odin. Personal attacks are not allowed.

whatever, but "no shit sherlock" is allowed. hey supermallet, it's called baiting which is also against rules.

superdeluxe
07-07-09, 05:13 PM
Just report it Odin, I don;t think mallet was intentional in missing it.

Son of Odin
07-07-09, 05:22 PM
Just report it Odin, I don;t think mallet was intentional in missing it.

i would but i don't see that option anywhere.

Mr. Cinema
07-07-09, 05:22 PM
No it won't. Analysts had it pegged at $300 million on Sunday. Didn't make it there. If it makes less than $7 million yesterday, won't hit that point until today.

Transformers is going to have a hell of a time to make it to $400 million. If it drops more than 50% this upcoming weekend, it won't make it. Especially with Harry Potter coming out in eight days.
TF2 made $6.4 mil yesterday. According to Showbizdata, that's a 57% drop from the previous Monday. US total is now $299.7 mil.

Spider-man 2 was a Wednesday opener (week of July 4), and it topped out at $380 mil. I think TF2 is going to end up there. Front loaded movies like this that have big weekend drops certainly don't hang around theaters too long.

And with this being 150 minutes, I don't know how many showings it's going to get after HP shows up and Paramount starts dropping theaters.

For those still wondering about Terminator 4, the worldwide gross is a decent $350 million. $122 mil from the US, so this has played much better overseas.

Son of Odin
07-07-09, 05:31 PM
spider-man 2 also had bigger competition that month. it had I' Robot, bourne supremacy, and the village. each of those opened with at least $50 million. ROTF only has potter left to contend with this month. now if G.I. Joe was released a week after Potter, i would say it wouldn't get to $400m.

Supermallet
07-07-09, 05:37 PM
To note, I didn't see the Sherlock comment. I have deleted it.

Mr. Cinema
07-08-09, 01:14 PM
TF2 made $5.7 mil yesterday, a 58% from the previous week. Total is $305.5m. I think it's going to drop more than 50% this weekend, which would put it just below $340m.

chris_sc77
07-08-09, 04:35 PM
WHatever it ends up making it's more than likely gonna end up in the Top 10 highest grossing domestic and INternational films. It made an amazing amount of money and is a HUGE success.

d2cheer
07-10-09, 01:38 PM
you're the one that said it wouldn't get to $420 million. if it averages around $6.5 million for the next five weekdays and pulls in around 30 million for the weekend, it will set at around $360 when potter hits. then it has 2 months of the summer left to get that extra $60million more. that is a guarantee. good for bay and great for transformers 2 and the long time fans of the franchise.

Interesting... but there is no way that Transformers 2 will make $400 mill. It will top out at ~380 mill. It will be lucky to pull in more than $23-25 mill this weekend.

Mr. Cinema
07-10-09, 04:41 PM
TF2 is at $315 mil. It earned about $4.5m yesterday, which was a 61% drop from the previous Thursday. I don't see it adding $85 million more.

islandclaws
07-10-09, 06:01 PM
Prob. not, but I think it'll add another $60m and wind up with a comfy spot in the top 10 of all-time. Not too bad for such a maligned flick. Well, by the fanboys at least.