ben12

This is my first TV Talk thread, so I hope I don't mess it up...



Synopsis (from tv.com)


R.I.P. so far


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ben12

I saw the episode on Canadian television, so...

Johnny Fever

Another intense episode imo. Looking forward to the last 2.

NORML54601

Stupid Trish should have shot Wakefield while he was knifefighting Jimmy

Arthur Dent

You mean Shane. And yes, she should have.

TGM

I thought Wakefield's helper was Jimmy, but now it is obviously not... it's too spelled out to simply be that. right?

cdollaz

Yeah. All she had to do was pop in when they were squaring off and start blasting.

Arthur Dent

I agree. I no longer think it's Jimmy. That's a shame, because he's been "the guy" in my eyes for a while now. Oh well.

Shinobi

If the Sheriff had files on Jimmy indicating that he was a criminal, why was the Sheriff so trusting of him, and why trust his daughter with him?

Maybe the files are fake, planted by Wakefield?

Septemberbaby

That's what I want to know. The last thing the Sheriff said to Abby was to be happy with Jimmy.. (paraphrasing)

And where the hell is everyone? Did Wakefield kill the entire town??

I used to think it was Henry but now I think it's either the dreadlock guy or the blond.

cmleidi

They couldn't leave the two most entertaining characters until the last two episodes? Why not kill the irritating girl and her mother?

mwbmis

I figured Chloe and Cal were destined to die together though I have to say Cal moved pretty well for a guy who was bleeding out a few hours ago. Where exactly were Abbie and Henry going? If they were following Wakefield they sure did a piss poor job of it.

Thanks to tonight's bloodbath there sure aren't a whole lot of characters left to kill. I'd still love to see Madison and the sister get it, but I just don't see this show having enough courage to kill a kid.

MFRONE

As mentioned in the last thread, most townspeople probably left on the boat (the one Jimmy mentioned that they missed when looking for Madison) or they locked themselves in their homes (it's only been a day or two for the past few episodes).

Arthur Dent

Perhaps the sheriff came to a conclusion on Jimmy but never got rid of the files. Your suggestion is possible, I suppose.

One of my friends picked Henry very early on. I don't know. I still think it's possible, but unlikely. Of course, the wedding party is on the island because of Henry (and Trish)...

+1 to rooting for Madison's demise. I concur with you, however: I don't see it happening.

Quake1028

Yeah it's very convenient that it's Jimmy, especially if you watched the previews. I have a feeling there is more to the story.

God damn 4th of July making us wait 2 weeks. GAAHHHHHHHHH!

Jeremy517

This was a pretty weak episode, even if you ignore the fact that the two best characters died. Pretty much everything involving Wakefield was laughably bad this episode. Wakefield brings a knife to a gun fight multiple times and ends up the victor every time.

Oh well, it was the first bad episode since episode three or four.

It sucks that we have to wait two weeks for the finale. Bleh.

Arthur Dent

It sucks that we have to wait, but it'll be nice once we reach the 11th and have 2 episodes that evening.

Jadzia

Is it possible for a show that was never good in the first place to jump the shark?

Wakefield running around slashing people was just so excessive it seemed laughable.

dinoninja16

UGH! Last nights episode made me soooooooo mad! I Looooooved cal. He was my absolute favorite character and now hes dead. Allthough i have to say i dmire cloes bravery...not that i would do that same thing of anything like that but u can see that she really loved him. and when she jumped off that bridge i was like OHH WHAT NOW WAKEFIELD! SAD YOU DIDNT GET TO KILL CLOE TOO? yea well then jimmy (my 2nd fav character) now might be a bad guy. AND of he is then he probably helped in the killing of cal which makes me mad.

anywho i think ive got it all figured out. Ok so jimmy IS a bad guy because i think he knew that the boat at the arena was going to blow up ( its all part of himand john wakefields plan) so he jumps off before shane even flipped the switch. THEN john wakefeild pretended to almost kill him when the sheriff (abbys dad) shows up and thats when wakefield offers a deal to "save jimmy" when jimmy wouldnt even die in the first place. So the dad trades his life for jimmys. POOF john wakefields plan worked. So now abby gets to see her dad die. and Jimmy can help wakefield with other schemes.

Heres another point: You know when they were all in the church and cloe got taken away. yea well that was all part of the plan too. Right before wakefield sneaks into the church jimmy like bangs on a dorr or somethin and has everybodies attention while wakefield steals cloe away. BAM another well thought out plan the once again worked all because jimmy is helping john wakefield.

Heres a probability: Ok so you know when jimmy and abby were gonna go camping. well he got abby and the sheriff out of the house so that while everyone was down at the arena trying to figure out how the dock blew up, wakefield could go snatch abbys mom and hang her from a tree.

so thats why i think jimmy is a bad guy. and is helping john wakefield

Eve1972

Totally agree! I am so disappointed about this Wakefield thing. I was really hoping they were going to twist it so he was actually helping or something, but him just walking around killing makes no sense. I can understand the killing for revenge, but Cal and Cloe?? They didn't even know the dude! They better have a damn good twist in the end!

Also, I don't think it is Jimmy, they are trying way to hard to make us think it is him, so it is either not him (most likely) or the show has hit a new level of lame. LOL

Johnny Fever

I've been really enjoying the series. It's pretty graphic for network TV and it's been fun speculating every week on who the killer is. Nice to see Shane go out a hero. He had some pretty good lines the last few episodes. But damn, I was hoping Cal and Chloe would be the ones to make it out of this mess. The thing about a limited series like this (as opposed to a 2 hour movie) is that you get time to care about the characters and the writers have enought time to build the story and throw in twists along the way.

So who could be the 2nd killer ? After last week's episode I thought that Jimmy would be the 2nd killer, but now I agree with everyone else ... it's too obvious. Even TV Guide Canada agrees with this theory in the following link. No spoilers. Just speculations in the link. http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/Wate...island_ep11_AD

I think Trish should be considered a suspect too. I'm thinking back to the former Sheriff's deputy (the one who had his face burned) releasing his dog in the woods to attack both Trish and her Dad. If the deputy as he later told the Sheriff was really also trying to find Wakefield and his accomplice, then it wouldn't have made sense for him to kill Trish (and her Dad the innocent bystander) unless he suspected her of being Wakefield's accomplice. Plus you throw in Trish's inability to shoot Wakefield when she had the chance (as others have mentioned) and that makes her a plausible suspect. But I doubt it's going to be her.

Someone posted an interesting theory a while back that the other killer could be Booth. He was the only one that wasn't killed by Wakefield and his accomplice. He supposedly died accidentally. Since we never saw Malcolm bury him, he could come back from the "dead" in the final episode. But nah, I doubt that it's going to be the twist.

The one death that didn't make sense to me was that of Hunter (Trish's Ex boyfriend that showed up and got blasted too pieces on the boat). His murder seemed out of place compared to the others. He wasn't a guest at the wedding and only a handfull of people knew that he was even on the island. And what was the motive for killing him ? The only person that would have a motive would be Henry since he probably suspected Trish of cheating on him. So is Henry the 2nd killer after all?

I don't mind Wakefield showing up and him being evil. Wasn't it already established back in Abby's flashback episode that he was the original killer ? Didn't she witness him killing someone in that flashback episode? So I'm okay with him being the killer as long as there's an accomplice for these new murders.

Looking forward to the 2 hour finale !

Goat3001

I can't imagine Danny, Sully or Shay being the killers. The first two characters aren't fleshed out at all and making it Shay wouldn't make much sense.

That leaves Jimmy, Abby, Henry and/or Trish. Jimmy now is the obvious choice but with 2 hours left I'm sure there will be another twist taking him out of the equation.

Abby is a possibility but she needs to be the hero, it's been planted like that from the first day.

My next thought is Henry. Him and Trish are the only ones that tie into everyone else in the show somehow. Henry has been completely controlling the group. Telling them where to go, who is going where etc. They can develop a motive for him wanting to kill Abby too. He already had motive to kill a few people on the island.

Trish is another possibility for the same reasons Henry is. However, I can't see her being a part of her dads death. But again she also has motive to kill a few people. They can develop a motive for her to want Abby dead too. Possibly a jealously thing involving Henry.

Right now I'd put my money on Henry.

jonnyquest

This, and the whole episode makes Wakefield out to be some invincible superhuman type dude. Henry's whole "we can't do it like this" when Abby was past ready to kick some Wakefield ass after he killed her dad makes me suspect Henry. Then again, Trish's going all stupid when she had the perfect opportunity and perfect weapon and didn't shoot Wakefield, makes me suspect her too.

Ghostface180

This past episode started me thinking that Henry and Jimmy might both be Wakefield's accomplices/sons. During the scene when Jimmy rejoins the group, I noticed how much he and Henry resemble each other. They were also looking at each other suspiciously.

ben12

The "there's TWO killers" twist is a fucking cliche. But if it ended up that there were THREE killers (Wakefield, Henry, and Trish), that would be fucking awesome! And then Gillette will come out with a whodunit with four killers.