Early reports have Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen grossing $16 million in midnight screenings today, nearing the same as Attack of the Clones four years ago, but not beating The Dark Knight's $18.5 million from last July.
Could it do $100 million in two days like the Batman or will Thursday's numbers drop?
GizmoDVD
06-24-09, 03:49 PM
Hopefully bad word of mouth will kill it.
Michael Corvin
06-24-09, 04:07 PM
What Gizmo said.
RagingBull80
06-24-09, 04:10 PM
Yeah, it will die off.
Suprmallet
06-24-09, 04:11 PM
Bad word of mouth may hurt the 5 day take, but it may not be enough to hurt the 3-day take.
cranberries fan
06-24-09, 04:12 PM
^^ Ditto ^^
RagingBull80
06-24-09, 04:22 PM
Bad word of mouth may hurt the 5 day take, but it may not be enough to hurt the 3-day take.
I imagine Friday night's take will be pretty freakin' huge. I'm guessing a huge drop for next weekend.
GizmoDVD
06-24-09, 04:25 PM
I imagine Friday night's take will be pretty freakin' huge. I'm guessing a huge drop for next weekend.
Today will be huge, tomorrow smaller, Friday huge, Sat and Sun smaller. Bad word of mouth will kill of potential Thursday sales but Friday people will come out to watch it and bad word of mouth will kill it for the weekend. This should be an interesting thread.
Mr. Cinema
06-24-09, 04:28 PM
Most thought this would easily coast to $300 million. Now I'm not so sure. It may get there, but it may creep past it. I guess it depends on the drop next weekend. It has a little while before HP arrives.
RichC2
06-24-09, 04:28 PM
^ You have too much faith in people.
Suprmallet
06-24-09, 04:41 PM
Also, I have to say, for every one person saying how much it sucked, you've got someone saying it's better than the first film, so I don't think we can expect the public reception to be unanimous.
Gdrlv
06-24-09, 04:41 PM
Hopefully bad word of mouth will kill it.
Let's hope so.
On an unrelated note, I really want to punch your avatar in the face.
mdc3000
06-24-09, 04:56 PM
Also, I have to say, for every one person saying how much it sucked, you've got someone saying it's better than the first film, so I don't think we can expect the public reception to be unanimous.
Very true - Last night I saw that Transformers 2 was trending on Twitter when I got home from the midnight show, expecting to see comments about it being a letdown... but most of the tweets were "Transformers 2 was AMAZZZZZZING!" So I think word of mouth will be fine and people don't want to believe this will suck, so they'll see it anyhow.
Let's hope so.
On an unrelated note, I really want to punch your avatar in the face.
"That's the problem."
GizmoDVD
06-24-09, 06:17 PM
"That's the problem."
:lol:
Oh man, that stupid clip just popped up in my head.
Disneyboy
06-24-09, 06:51 PM
Idon't think word of mouth is going to harm this one. Apart from the critics (and no one I know listens to them anyway) you guys are the first negative word of mouth that I've heard.
GizmoDVD
06-24-09, 06:53 PM
Idon't think word of mouth is going to harm this one. Apart from the critics (and no one I know listens to them anyway) you guys are the first negative word of mouth that I've heard.
You mean apart from every other review that is calling this a pile of shit?
Sad thing is - he is right. Reading my friends posts on Facebook etc all seem to think it "rules". Sigh. This must be the same people who thought Paul Bart Mall Cop was awesome as well.
Rypro 525
06-24-09, 07:19 PM
there were 3 screens showing this last night and all were sold out.
Now what will be really sad (and embarassing) is if New Moon is the movie to top the Dark Knight.
Solid Snake PAC
06-24-09, 07:44 PM
Don't you even fucking say it! It won't. It can't. *hoping it doesn't*
GizmoDVD
06-24-09, 07:45 PM
there were 3 screens showing this last night and all were sold out.
Now what will be really sad (and embarassing) is if New Moon is the movie to top the Dark Knight.
What's sad is I will be seeing New Moon opening night...
valkyrie
06-24-09, 08:20 PM
Now what will be really sad (and embarassing) is if New Moon is the movie to top the Dark Knight.
Nah, the next movie to have that chance will be Avatar.
Superman07
06-24-09, 09:08 PM
My co-worker is going tonight. He enjoyed the first one (for a popcorn flick) and we usually tend to agree on films. However, he said Wolverine was good and my other friends said that was utterly painful and somewhere between X2 and X3. Given the proximity to Transformers 2 I may have to take his feedback tomorrow with a grain of salt. Either way I probably won't have a chance to go until next weekend.
Daytripper
06-24-09, 09:16 PM
^ You have too much faith in people.
Seriously. One can only hope. But it's a losing battle.
mcfly
06-24-09, 10:58 PM
I'm waiting until Friday to see this. I'm gonna head after work.
Where's all the hate coming from? Is it those Jar Jar Bots?
tljdvdtlk
06-24-09, 11:16 PM
i'm seeing this soon. the first one surprised me. so i'm expecting more this time. hope it satisfies.
GoldenJCJ
06-24-09, 11:22 PM
The thing about Transformers, is that good or bad, it's the type of movie you just have to see on the big screen.
I'm going in expecting it to blow chunks, yet my ass will be in the theater seat Saturday night...and I didn't even like the first one all that much.
leacha
06-24-09, 11:28 PM
The thing about Transformers, is that good or bad, it's the type of movie you just have to see on the big screen.
I'm going in expecting it to blow chunks, yet my ass will be in the theater seat Saturday night...and I didn't even like the first one all that much.
And that is why POS movies will still be made. $$$
GoldenJCJ
06-24-09, 11:35 PM
And that is why POS movies will still be made. $$$
Can't argue with you there. Some of the worst movies I've ever seen were in the theater and some of the best were rentals. :shrug:
Tom Creo
06-25-09, 01:16 AM
When did box office take become so important to us film nerds? First there was the Madea outcry, then the Star Trek, Wolverine, and Terminator dick swinging contest, and now this. Even if Transformers II beats TDK, it still doesn't take away from the latter film's achievements, right? Or is this just another how dumb the American viewing public is thread?
Suprmallet
06-25-09, 03:34 AM
We like to see movies we think are of high quality make more money than movies we think are of low quality.
Matthew Chmiel
06-25-09, 04:05 AM
Went to try to a theater tonight to see Transformers 2 that was playing it on five screens. Got there shortly after eight; all the showings from 4:10pm and to the remainder of the night (11:10pm) were all sold out.
People were everywhere, people waiting in lines in front of their auditorium, mass chaos. This theater probably has some of the larger auditoriums in Vegas (the ones holding Transformers can all accommodate 300-450 people each).
We ended up seeing The Hangover (my friends from Paris obviously have not seen it yet) which ended up being sold out as well (thankfully since we got there early, we had good seats).
Matthew Chmiel
06-25-09, 04:11 AM
Here's what Deadline Hollywood Daily is reporting:
WEDNESDAY 9:45 PM: It's now officially a rock-'em, sock-'em summer! Sources tell me that Paramount's Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen today has shattered the Wednesday opening record set by Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix (#5) in 2007: $55+M to $44.2M. The robot sequel grosses from 4,234 North American theaters are $10M more than Paramount expected. That puts the sci-fi actioner on track for at least a $170M five-day opening -- and probably more like $175M-$180M -- despite overwhelmingly lousy reviews. But this Decepticons vs Autobots battle is reviewer-proof.
And regarding the midnight shows:
WEDNESDAY AM: Let's be clear: Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen did not break the overall post-midnight preview record of $18.4 million (from 3,040 theaters) set by The Dark Knight on a Friday last summer, but is now 3rd of all time behind Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith's $16.9M (in 2,915 plays in 2005). But the Paramount sequel playing 12:01 AM shows in 3,000+ venues sure came closer than anyone thought possible. Rival studios had expected only between $10M-$12M in midnight shows.
Michael Corvin
06-25-09, 09:01 AM
4,234 theaters? :eek:
Mittman
06-25-09, 09:46 AM
Saw this last night @ the Uptown in DC. For a 7:05 showing on opening day I expected a line around the block an hour before the show. I got none of that. I didn't even have to leave the bar until 6:40 and I got my favorite seats. Theater was about half full, which is kinda sad/scary for the producers of the film. It will do well, but I see no records being broke.
pinata242
06-25-09, 09:48 AM
Transformers is going to have to make all it's money up-front. I can tell you that word of mouth from me, a champion of the first, is significantly worse than before.
Matthew Chmiel
06-25-09, 10:27 AM
Based off other recent blockbusters that had a Wednesday opening, Transformers 2 (in theory) should see a 50-60% drop going from Wednesday to Thursday.
If that happens, it'll take in $23-24 million today.
Early reports have Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen grossing $16 million in midnight screenings today, nearing the same as Attack of the Clones four years ago, but not beating The Dark Knight's $18.5 million from last July.
Is this supposed to say Revenge Of The Sith?
I am honestly having second thoughts about seeing this one in the theater. The first was unbearably long in the theater, but I liked it a little more at home. Sounds like this one is more of the same.
RichC2
06-25-09, 11:04 AM
Saw this last night @ the Uptown in DC. For a 7:05 showing on opening day I expected a line around the block an hour before the show. I got none of that. I didn't even have to leave the bar until 6:40 and I got my favorite seats. Theater was about half full, which is kinda sad/scary for the producers of the film. It will do well, but I see no records being broke.
Yeah, it was half full for you and STILL made $55m+ yesterday.
I don't think the producers have anything to be sad or scared about and it didn't happen to be showing a million times that day did it?
Goddamn. Them's some impressive numbers. Despite the shit reviews, I still need to see this for myself.
maingon
06-25-09, 02:39 PM
Goddamn. Them's some impressive numbers. Despite the shit reviews, I still need to see this for myself.
These type of movies never get good reviews. I never pay attention to reviews for movies anymore. I find myself never agreeing with them that much.
Artman
06-25-09, 03:03 PM
These type of movies never get good reviews.
Not to get off track, it's probably the exception but big budget summer escapist movies can and certainly do get good reviews. Look no further than this yrs Star Trek, last yr's Iron Man, etc...heck even the first Transformers got almost 60% positive on Rotten Tomatoes.
KillerCannibal
06-25-09, 03:09 PM
These type of movies never get good reviews. I never pay attention to reviews for movies anymore. I find myself never agreeing with them that much.
I really don't pay attention to reviews either, but when the message board comminuty response is almost universally negative, well... that's never a good sign.
Artman
06-25-09, 05:16 PM
Interesting Star Trek jumped 30% Wed, every other film was down. I guess that was the default choice for sold-out shows...
invisiblegt
06-25-09, 06:58 PM
Goddamn. Them's some impressive numbers. Despite the shit reviews, I still need to see this for myself.
You really don't. It's everything the negative reviews say it is, and then some.
Tom Creo
06-25-09, 09:53 PM
I liked it..........alot. Crazy take on day 1.
skygear75
06-25-09, 10:25 PM
I highly doubt it will beat Dark Knight in the box office.
Defiant1
06-26-09, 12:47 AM
I highly doubt it will beat Dark Knight in the box office.
I think that's a safe assumption to make as there has only been one movie EVER that outgrossed TDK (domestic gross not adjusted for inflation).
Mr. Cinema
06-26-09, 09:39 AM
Deadline Hollywood Daily reports that TF2 did $28 million yesterday and is now on track for $185 million for the first 5 days, 2nd only to TDK's $203 mil.
mcfly
06-26-09, 09:54 AM
What was Paramount's expectations for this weekend? I wasn't predicting a $180 mill 5-day.
The Bus
06-26-09, 10:32 AM
Nah, the next movie to have that chance will be Avatar.
Nobody knows anything about that movie. Won't happen.
mdc3000
06-26-09, 10:54 AM
^Yeah, outside of the internet, the hype/buzz on that movie is absolutely ZERO at this point.
marty888
06-26-09, 11:09 AM
Rotten Tomatoes now has it at 22% favorable reviews .... but that drops to 19% for the Top Critics.
Obviously it's already on a path to have a tremendous weekend, but I'd expect that it's not going to get the repeat crowd that's really needed to create a box office firestorm.
Artman
06-26-09, 11:13 AM
Obviously it's already on a path to have a tremendous weekend, but I'd expect that it's not going to get the repeat crowd that's really needed to create a box office firestorm.
It's got 300m no matter what at this point, count the firestorm!
Matthew Chmiel
06-26-09, 11:20 AM
The advantage Transformers 2 has is that it now owns the box office until July 9th.
Releasing it the weekend before 4th of July was a smart idea. Regardless of the negative reviews, it will most likely be #1 every day until the weekend of July 10th (where Bruno will probably take the top spot) even with Ice Age 3 coming out on Wednesday.
The advantage Transformers has is IMAX. IMAX screenings are still selling out here in Vegas and it'll most likely stay that way until after the 4th of July weekend.
Michael Corvin
06-26-09, 11:22 AM
The advantage Transformers 2 has is that it now owns the box office until July 9th.
Releasing it the weekend before 4th of July was a smart idea. Regardless of the negative reviews, it will most likely be #1 every day until the weekend of July 10th (where Bruno will probably take the top spot) even with Ice Age 3 coming out on Wednesday.
The advantage Transformers has is IMAX. IMAX screenings are still selling out here in Vegas and it'll most likely stay that way until after the 4th of July weekend.
No love for Ice Age 3?
Mr. Cinema
06-26-09, 11:56 AM
What was Paramount's expectations for this weekend? I wasn't predicting a $180 mill 5-day.
I thought I read they were hoping for a 5-day of $150 mil. This was a few weeks back.
Ash Ketchum
06-26-09, 01:07 PM
^Yeah, outside of the internet, the hype/buzz on that movie is absolutely ZERO at this point.
I doubt that most of the audience members clamoring for TRANSFORMERS 2 have even heard of AVATAR yet. AVATAR is not based on a property anyone's familiar with and it has no stars. Cameron's previous hits were either sequels to popular originals (ALIENS, T2) or a star vehicle based on a famous disaster (TITANIC with Di Caprio and Winslet). Do we know anything about AVATAR yet that would pull the TRANSFORMERS crowd into the theater? I don't. AVATAR reportedly has a $300 million-plus budget. So it will have to make even MORE than TRANSFORMERS 2 to be perceived as a hit. What we see between now and the film's release date had better be more spectacular than words can convey in order for AVATAR to even think about attracting those kinds of numbers.
TwineTime
06-26-09, 01:54 PM
Star vehicle?
Hokeyboy
06-26-09, 03:10 PM
I doubt that most of the audience members clamoring for TRANSFORMERS 2 have even heard of AVATAR yet. AVATAR is not based on a property anyone's familiar with and it has no stars. Cameron's previous hits were either sequels to popular originals (ALIENS, T2) or a star vehicle based on a famous disaster (TITANIC with Di Caprio and Winslet)..
True Lies?
Bear in mind as well, before TITANIC exploded Leo has only one hit under his belt (Romeo & Juliet), and it wasn't even THAT big. He was more of a pinup/Tiger Beat type at that point. And Kate Winslet was virtually unknown. AND Titanic had a MOUNTAIN of bad press going against it. The movie was huge because it totally clicked with audiences, period. Not because of Leo, Kate, or because it was about a famous disaster.
That having been said, I agree with you that AVATAR is only big among Internet movie nerds *at this time*. I think the marketing machine will shoot into play real soon, playing it up as "the NEW movie from the director of TITANIC" and some tantalizing visuals, or some such stuff. Otherwise, talk to 10 random people at a movieplex and I guarantee you they've never heard of Avatar. But they HAVE heard of Ice Age 3, or some such idiocy.
AnonomusBob15
06-26-09, 03:20 PM
Avatar will be a hit. Even if Cameron has to buy all the tickets himself.
I am just glad it didn't top The Dark Knight. It's a good source of motivation for filmmakers to make good movies.
Mr. Cinema
06-26-09, 07:13 PM
TF2 worldwide total so far: $169 million ($89m US)
Maxflier
06-26-09, 07:46 PM
Had no clue what the fuck New Moon was. Thank God for google!
valkyrie
06-26-09, 09:08 PM
Nobody knows anything about that movie. Won't happen.
I know they're fanboys, but with statements like "Fifty years from now I'll tell my grandkids I was at this presentation and witnessed it 6 months before the movieworld was changed," one has to wonder....
;)
resinrats
06-26-09, 11:08 PM
I think Harry Potter is the one that will beat TF2 in the weekend. Only reason that will is because it is a few weeks away when most TF fans have seen TF2 a few times. HP is a popular enough series that I think it will win.
The Bus
06-26-09, 11:29 PM
Uh huh. Titanic opened to lousy numbers too.
Titanic didn't open lousy. It opened pretty well. It just had legs that went on forever.
I'm not saying Avatar will be teh sux, or that it will bankrupt Fox. All I'm saying is that Batman's hype machine started rolling a year in advance of the film. Avatar has garnered a few mentions in mainstream nationals and some internet hype but nothing beyond that. I don't see it beating The Dark Knight's opening record.
Matthew Chmiel
06-27-09, 12:06 AM
Per Titanic, $29 million wasn't groundbreaking at all. Scream 2 made more in it's opening weekend earlier in that month. However, adjust for inflation and release it now, people would be automatically calling it a disappointment due to it's large budget.
This was also at a time where films didn't play on multiple screens. In Vegas, the maximum amount of screens it played in a given theater at once was three. Open that bitch now, it would be on five-to-eight. In Vegas, I remember seeing it three weeks into it's run and it was sold out and I had to wait around the theater for over an hour before they started letting people into the auditorium.
Titanic clicked with audiences. Word of mouth spread. It sold out for weeks straight as it was hard to see it due to the amount of screens it was on plus the audiences it attracted who saw it multiple and multiple times.
The Dark Knight's hype machine was in good swing, but I think Heath Ledger's death piqued a lot of people's interest in the film who might've not seen it otherwise. I still think it would've been a gigantic hit regardless, but people were curious about Ledger's performance (which was even getting praise prior to his death).
The Bus
06-27-09, 12:14 AM
Per Titanic, $29 million wasn't groundbreaking at all. Scream 2 made more in it's opening weekend earlier in that month.
Correct. It was neither a barmstorming hit (like Jurassic Park) nor a bomb.
dsa_shea
06-27-09, 02:09 AM
I would much rather haver Transformers 2 rake in the bucks than Twilight or any of its brethren. I would much rather see that series sink to the bottom than the Transformers series. Yes, it is mindless robots battling through a shoddy script but at least it is entertaining. I can't say the same for the Twilight series.
Suprmallet
06-27-09, 03:15 AM
The other thing to keep in mind for Avatar vs. The Dark Knight is that Avatar is reportedly over 3 hours, which means less showtimes per day, which means less gross on any given day.
Mr. Cinema
06-27-09, 05:21 AM
Deadline Hollywood Daily says TF2 earned about $35 million yesterday and is now on track for $195 million for 5 days. However, if it gets a decent size bump today, I think there's a chance it'll take down TDK's $203 mil total. Right now, it has about $124 million.
MrSmearkase
06-27-09, 08:26 AM
Interesting Star Trek jumped 30% Wed, every other film was down. I guess that was the default choice for sold-out shows...
I wonder how much of that may be spillover from sell-outs, or if its that Star Trek is paired with Transformers at many drive-ins in my areas, and likely many other areas with operating drive-ins. I've never been able to find out the reporting processes for drive-ins, but is it possible the 2 films split the gross from that respective venue?
Jericho
06-27-09, 08:48 AM
I wonder how much of that may be spillover from sell-outs, or if its that Star Trek is paired with Transformers at many drive-ins in my areas, and likely many other areas with operating drive-ins. I've never been able to find out the reporting processes for drive-ins, but is it possible the 2 films split the gross from that respective venue?
How many drive-ins are even around anymore? I can think of one in this general area, and this is a populated area. I don't think that kind of audience is really going to sway the numbers that significantly. If it did, everytime a big movie opened, it could be paired with something else to "boost" sales.
AnonomusBob15
06-27-09, 11:23 AM
There is one drive-in my state, only one screen
Suprmallet
06-27-09, 11:27 AM
Deadline Hollywood Daily says TF2 earned about $35 million yesterday and is now on track for $195 million for 5 days. However, if it gets a decent size bump today, I think there's a chance it'll take down TDK's $203 mil total. Right now, it has about $124 million.
That would be really sad.
Mr. Cinema
06-27-09, 02:34 PM
Showbizdata's Friday Numbers:
1. TRANSFORMERS 2 PARAMOUNT 4,234 36,330,000 8,581 n/a 125,575,788
2. PROPOSAL, THE DISNEY 3,058 6,040,000 1,975 -53% 56,623,930
3. HANGOVER, THE WARNER BROS. 3,525 5,320,000 1,509 -37% 171,352,101
4. MY SISTER'S KEEPER WARNER BROS. 2,606 5,080,000 1,949 n/a 5,080,000
5. UP DISNEY 3,487 3,990,000 1,144 -35% 241,162,817
6. YEAR ONE SONY 3,024 2,040,000 675 -76% 28,547,116
7. TAKING OF PELHAM 1 2 3, THE SONY 2,995 1,545,000 516 -52% 49,550,720
8. NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM II: ESCAPE FROM THE SMITHSONIAN FOX 2,250 1,170,000 520 -45% 160,917,670
9. STAR TREK PARAMOUNT 1,823 1,085,000 595 -12% 243,704,214
10. AWAY WE GO FOCUS FEATURES 495 515,000 1,040 n/a 2,889,000
11. LAND OF THE LOST UNIVERSAL 1,504 370,000 246 -70% 45,989,980
12. TERMINATOR SALVATION WARNER BROS. 1,102 325,000 295 -62% 121,162,355
Box Office Mojo had TF2 with $36.7 mil. It needs a little over $78 mil to take down TDK. Going to be close I think, especially if it gets a big bump today.
KillerCannibal
06-27-09, 02:58 PM
It won't take down TDK. It'll come close, but I don't really see it getting a bump today. Everyone is out of school already, so I think Wed and Fri were the 2 biggest days it's likely to have.
Suprmallet
06-27-09, 03:53 PM
At my theater, Wednesday was busier than Friday and today hasn't been very busy. Of course it'll get busier this evening.
superdeluxe
06-27-09, 05:21 PM
Showbizdata's Friday Numbers:
1. TRANSFORMERS 2 PARAMOUNT 4,234 36,330,000 8,581 n/a 125,575,788
2. PROPOSAL, THE DISNEY 3,058 6,040,000 1,975 -53% 56,623,930
3. HANGOVER, THE WARNER BROS. 3,525 5,320,000 1,509 -37% 171,352,101
4. MY SISTER'S KEEPER WARNER BROS. 2,606 5,080,000 1,949 n/a 5,080,000
5. UP DISNEY 3,487 3,990,000 1,144 -35% 241,162,817
6. YEAR ONE SONY 3,024 2,040,000 675 -76% 28,547,116
7. TAKING OF PELHAM 1 2 3, THE SONY 2,995 1,545,000 516 -52% 49,550,720
8. NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM II: ESCAPE FROM THE SMITHSONIAN FOX 2,250 1,170,000 520 -45% 160,917,670
9. STAR TREK PARAMOUNT 1,823 1,085,000 595 -12% 243,704,214
10. AWAY WE GO FOCUS FEATURES 495 515,000 1,040 n/a 2,889,000
11. LAND OF THE LOST UNIVERSAL 1,504 370,000 246 -70% 45,989,980
12. TERMINATOR SALVATION WARNER BROS. 1,102 325,000 295 -62% 121,162,355
Box Office Mojo had TF2 with $36.7 mil. It needs a little over $78 mil to take down TDK. Going to be close I think, especially if it gets a big bump today.
wow look at star trek's drop! NICE
xage
06-27-09, 06:09 PM
Most thought this would easily coast to $300 million. Now I'm not so sure. It may get there, but it may creep past it. I guess it depends on the drop next weekend. It has a little while before HP arrives.
Same scenario with Indiana Jones - but this one got a huge 1st 5days earning
FuQ
06-27-09, 06:21 PM
This just shows the state of the American public and will just eat up anything force fed to them. I was hoping word of mouth would kill it but American stupidity knows no bounds. Truly one of the worst and most embarassing films I've ever seen. The fact that Spielberg kept his name on this piece of shit is beyond me, with this and Indy IV I am now starting to questions the beard's judgement in his advanced stage of life.
RichC2
06-27-09, 09:05 PM
This just shows the state of the American public and will just eat up anything force fed to them. I was hoping word of mouth would kill it but American stupidity knows no bounds. Truly one of the worst and most embarassing films I've ever seen. The fact that Spielberg kept his name on this piece of shit is beyond me, with this and Indy IV I am now starting to questions the beard's judgement in his advanced stage of life.
For a hugely anticipated sequel with no competition, it takes more than a few days for word of mouth to spread and destroy a movie.
Also, Spielberg was Executive Producer on the film, they have virtually no input on how the movie turns out and work almost purely on a financial level, I think he just agreed to it since it's a minor selling factor and he needs the money to get Dreamworks back on its own. The defense for Indy is that Lucas had him by the balls. The defense for War of the World's moronic ending? Oh wait, there is none.
Tracer Bullet
06-27-09, 10:36 PM
wow look at star trek's drop! NICE
:thumbsup:
Star Trek just keeps on ticking. I expect this will be its last weekend in the top 10 but will make it past $250M, which is just amazing.
TheMovieman
06-27-09, 10:48 PM
:thumbsup:
Star Trek just keeps on ticking. I expect this will be it's last weekend in the top 10 but will make it past $250M, which is just amazing.
Yep and unlike Transformers, deserves every penny. IMO, of course. :p
Disneyboy
06-27-09, 11:15 PM
The defense for War of the World's moronic ending? Oh wait, there is none.
If you're talking about the very end of the movie, well, that's how the book ended, there's not much you can change there.
I personally liked this movie alot, and I think that anyone who claims that "anyone who enjoyed the movie is a moron" or anything to that effect, is extremely arrogant. One person's (or several people, or even the majority of the population if that's the case) opinion is not the be all end all. RotF was not anywhere near a perfect movie and I can understand why not everyone would enjoy it, but please, don't insult others simply because their opinion differs.
Michael Corvin
06-28-09, 12:27 AM
If you're talking about the very end of the movie, well, that's how the book ended, there's not much you can change there.
I assume he was referring to the son.
RichC2
06-28-09, 01:17 AM
I assume he was referring to the son.
I was.
Rypro 525
06-28-09, 02:11 AM
will Up get to 300 mil?
Super X
06-28-09, 07:42 AM
:thumbsup:
Star Trek just keeps on ticking. I expect this will be its last weekend in the top 10 but will make it past $250M, which is just amazing.
I've thought that the last couple of weeks, but it's week-to-week drop has been incredibly low this late in its run and other big films which have come out since are dropping below it. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see NATS and Pelham 123 both fall behind it next weekend, keeping it in the top 10.
Mr. Cinema
06-28-09, 08:08 AM
Looks like TF2 earned about $39.5 million yesterday. That puts its 4 day total around $165 mil. It'll be just short of TDK's record, but still an amazing 5-day opening.
I wonder if it would have beaten TDK's $158 mil 3-day opening had it opened on Friday.
Disneyboy
06-28-09, 09:02 AM
I was.
Oh, ok, I thought you were referring to how the aliens died. I forgot about the son's miraculous appearance at the end. Ya, that was definitely a little contrived.
CharlieK
06-28-09, 11:57 AM
Oh, ok, I thought you were referring to how the aliens died. I forgot about the son's miraculous appearance at the end. Ya, that was definitely a little contrived. With all Cruise's character & the daughter went through in that movie, they lived; yet the fate of his son over something that happened off-screen is contrived? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
So nice to see the legs on ST.
Mr. Cinema
06-28-09, 01:17 PM
WEEKEND:
1 N Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $112,000,000 - 4,234 - $26,453 $201,246,000 $200 1
2 1 The Proposal BV $18,466,000 -45.1% 3,058 +2 $6,039 $69,050,000 $40 2
3 2 The Hangover WB $17,215,000 -35.7% 3,525 -20 $4,884 $183,247,000 $35 4
4 3 Up BV $13,046,000 -44.5% 3,487 -345 $3,741 $250,218,000 $175 5
5 N My Sister's Keeper WB $12,030,000 - 2,606 - $4,616 $12,030,000 - 1
6 4 Year One Sony $5,800,000 -70.4% 3,024 +2 $1,918 $32,207,000 $60 2
7 5 The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 Sony $5,400,000 -55.1% 2,995 -82 $1,803 $53,406,000 $100 3
8 7 Star Trek Par. $3,606,000 -34.6% 1,823 -484 $1,978 $246,225,000 $150 8
9 6 Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian Fox $3,500,000 -55.2% 2,250 -712 $1,556 $163,248,000 $150 6
10 13 Away We Go Focus $1,678,000 +92.6% 495 +363 $3,390 $4,056,000 $17 4
11 8 Land of the Lost Uni. $1,143,000 -73.8% 1,504 -1,441 $760 $46,763,000 $100 4
12 10 Terminator Salvation WB $1,085,000 -67.0% 1,102 -818 $985 $121,922,000 $200 6
chris_sc77
06-28-09, 01:33 PM
That take for Transformers 2 is insane! I dont see how it cannot make it to at least $400 million domestic now. Looks like this could also end up with close to a billion worldwide also.
I wish i could muster up enthusiasm for this one but i guess giant talking, rapping, robots from outer space just isnt my thing. This will probably be the first Michael Bay movie i skip in theaters since Armageddon. Shame since i consider him one of the best makers of summer action films of all time.
Also i have to enjoy the over 70%drop for Year One . That movie looked terrible.
mdc3000
06-28-09, 01:40 PM
^TF2 is the kind of movie I would think you'd love - well over two hours and tons of baysplosions... why on Earth would you skip it? (the PG-13 rating not withstanding)... And also, no way in hell does it make $400 domestic - with word of mouth and a large drop off come Harry Potter, it'll probably end up with closer to $325mil.
Mr. Cinema
06-28-09, 01:51 PM
Only $325 mil? $200 million in 5 days is a ridiculous total. Even with word of mouth, I don't see this earning less than $350m. It still has a holiday weekend coming up and no similar genre competition until HP arrives. I think it'll get to $300 million after next weekend. This could be critic proof in terms of box office.
maingon
06-28-09, 02:20 PM
This just shows the state of the American public and will just eat up anything force fed to them. I was hoping word of mouth would kill it but American stupidity knows no bounds. Truly one of the worst and most embarassing films I've ever seen. The fact that Spielberg kept his name on this piece of shit is beyond me, with this and Indy IV I am now starting to questions the beard's judgement in his advanced stage of life.
I really liked Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, Theater I seen it at seemed to really enjoy it. Its not as good as the orginal. I thought the orginal was near perfect.
Most people on this board go into the movie wanting to hate it, wanting to point every error out. Just because its Micheal Bay.
Son of Odin
06-28-09, 02:40 PM
^TF2 is the kind of movie I would think you'd love - well over two hours and tons of baysplosions... why on Earth would you skip it? (the PG-13 rating not withstanding)... And also, no way in hell does it make $400 domestic - with word of mouth and a large drop off come Harry Potter, it'll probably end up with closer to $325mil.
word of mouth is actually good. some of the people i interacted with coming out of both showings that i attended loved it. critics are really the only ones bashing it, but people are just ignoring them completely and judging it for themselves. nice to see the hangover almost taking second place away from the proposal. that should cruise over $200 million by next weekend.
mcnabb
06-28-09, 03:08 PM
WEEKEND:
1 N Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $112,000,000 - 4,234 - $26,453 $201,246,000 $200 1
:mad:
I had hopes that The Dark Knight would turn the summer blockbuster back to being somewhat interesting, but we are back to dumb-downed movies that have just big explosions, CGI, and action, and zero story or character development.
If the movie was PG and clearly made for little kids that would buy the toys, I wouldn't have a problem, but the fact that the movie is PG-13 tells me they are going for an older audience, so it isn't just little kids that are going to see this. Supply = demand, so expect more stupid ass blockbusters in the upcoming summers!
Suprmallet
06-28-09, 03:17 PM
word of mouth is actually good. some of the people i interacted with coming out of both showings that i attended loved it. critics are really the only ones bashing it, but people are just ignoring them completely and judging it for themselves. nice to see the hangover almost taking second place away from the proposal. that should cruise over $200 million by next weekend.
Word of mouth is split between people who think it's crap and people who love it. It's not only the critics who hate it.
stingermck
06-28-09, 03:33 PM
Another week, another movie trashed in this thread. How dare the American public take time out to see a form of entertainment.
*insert Transformers with any other movie that makes money*
chris_sc77
06-28-09, 03:38 PM
I would be willing to bet around 90% of people who payed to see this in theaters walked away happy. At least in America. Im sure the exit polls will indicate this.
You have to understand the general public eats up crap and loves it. Look no further than the billboard sales chart and the weekly Neilson TV ratings. They must like it if they keep coming back for more.
Mr. Cinema
06-28-09, 03:41 PM
Deadline Hollywood Daily said the international gross is now $187 mil, which puts the film's overall total at around $388 mil.
vhgong
06-28-09, 03:43 PM
I went in with no expectations and came out highly entertained.
I just enjoy watching those robots transform and fight.
Suprmallet
06-28-09, 03:44 PM
I would be willing to bet around 90% of people who payed to see this in theaters walked away happy. At least in America. Im sure the exit polls will indicate this.
You have to understand the general public eats up crap and loves it. Look no further than the billboard sales chart and the weekly Neilson TV ratings. They must like it if they keep coming back for more.
Why wouldn't they? It's two and a half hours, after all. Of course, they would have liked it more had it been rated R, but them's the breaks.
tonymontana313
06-28-09, 03:45 PM
I enjoyed the movie for what it was. I expected it to be the typical Michael Bay spectacle and it delivered in spades in that regard.
Mr. Cinema
06-28-09, 03:47 PM
This will also be a huge seller on BD and should definitely help boost player sales when it comes out.
Mr. Cinema
06-28-09, 03:55 PM
Spider-man 2 had the previous record 5-day Wednesday opening with $152+ million.
Artman
06-28-09, 04:15 PM
I had hopes that The Dark Knight would turn the summer blockbuster back to being somewhat interesting, but we are back to dumb-downed movies that have just big explosions, CGI, and action, and zero story or character development.
Well, if it's any help most movies this summer were already in development and shooting when TDK hit last yr. Maybe we'll see some changes next summer... And this movie's following an already established style and success from the first... it'd be unrealistic to expect anything radically different from that, or the next one...
Blu Man
06-28-09, 04:45 PM
It's pulled in over 200 mil in less then a week. All my friends have seen it but I'm gonna head to the nearest IMAX theater on tuesday and check it out.
GoldenJCJ
06-28-09, 04:50 PM
This just shows the state of the American public and will just eat up anything force fed to them. I was hoping word of mouth would kill it but American stupidity knows no bounds. Truly one of the worst and most embarassing films I've ever seen. The fact that Spielberg kept his name on this piece of shit is beyond me, with this and Indy IV I am now starting to questions the beard's judgement in his advanced stage of life.
There seems to be some hypocrisy in this post.
xage
06-28-09, 04:51 PM
:wave: youre so 2008
:mad:
I had hopes that The Dark Knight would turn the summer blockbuster back to being somewhat interesting, but we are back to dumb-downed movies that have just big explosions, CGI, and action, and zero story or character development.
Son of Odin
06-28-09, 07:42 PM
Word of mouth is split between people who think it's crap and people who love it. It's not only the critics who hate it.
actually harris said the exit polls indicated 91% of the people have said otherwise. the film has an overwhelming positive feedback.
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to see the whole thing yet. I went Friday after work but left 45 minutes in because of some ridiculously obnoxious teens... from what I did see it was entertaining. Loved all the Fox. :drool:
I'm really looking forward to Public Enemies this week.
Suprmallet
06-28-09, 09:15 PM
actually harris said the exit polls indicated 91% of the people have said otherwise. the film has an overwhelming positive feedback.
I guess the 3D IMAX screenings didn't help My Sister's Keeper.
SpinalGuffman
06-28-09, 09:50 PM
will Up get to 300 mil?It is trailing Finding Nemo at the same point by about $3 mil. Nemo grossed $339M. I hope Up cracks it and I think it will.
Matthew Chmiel
06-28-09, 10:13 PM
At least The Dark Knight record remains in tact, amirite? ;)
But $201 million in five days is impressive nonetheless.
resinrats
06-28-09, 10:35 PM
Paramount should buy a few millions worth of tickets to beat TDK's record. They get it back anyways.
fumanstan
06-28-09, 10:46 PM
It is trailing Finding Nemo at the same point by about $3 mil. Nemo grossed $339M. I hope Up cracks it and I think it will.
Did Finding Nemo have any competition when it was released? I don't recall, but I think Ice Age will probably cut into Up's take the next few weeks.
Drexl
06-28-09, 11:13 PM
Did Finding Nemo have any competition when it was released? I don't recall, but I think Ice Age will probably cut into Up's take the next few weeks.
It opened on May 30, and going by the year-end list, it doesn't look like there was too much, just modest hits like The Hulk (which opened big but dropped like a rock) and 2 Fast 2 Furious. The next huge grosser was Pirates of the Caribbean on July 9th.
rexinnih
06-29-09, 09:04 AM
No matter what the opinion is on Transformers 2, that's an impressive haul.
SpinalGuffman
06-29-09, 11:29 AM
Did Finding Nemo have any competition when it was released? I don't recall, but I think Ice Age will probably cut into Up's take the next few weeks.Not sure, but Up is 5/6 of the way there and Pixar summer movies have hung on well into autumn each of the last few years. No doubt Ice Age will have an impact. Up has benefitted from the lack of competition. It will be close...
Mr. Cinema
06-29-09, 05:35 PM
TF2's actual weekend gross was $108.9 million. But it looks like Wednesday's take ended up being $62 million, which makes the 5-day total a flat $200 million.
Mr. Cinema
06-30-09, 03:56 PM
TF2 earned $14.8 mil yesterday and now has a 6-day US total of $214.9 mil. It's worldwide total is already $419 mil.
Nick Danger
07-01-09, 09:24 AM
:mad:
I had hopes that The Dark Knight would turn the summer blockbuster back to being somewhat interesting, but we are back to dumb-downed movies that have just big explosions, CGI, and action, and zero story or character development.
If the movie was PG and clearly made for little kids that would buy the toys, I wouldn't have a problem, but the fact that the movie is PG-13 tells me they are going for an older audience, so it isn't just little kids that are going to see this. Supply = demand, so expect more stupid ass blockbusters in the upcoming summers!
The Dark Knight featured three of the four of those, plus an interminable car chase. It had the character development in between. The character development was hardly the point of the movie.