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Brent L
06-18-09, 02:43 PM
This looks like The Day After Tomorrow 2, which makes sense since it's directed by Roland Emmerich.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810045661/video

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It's as if the filmmakers are convinced that 2012 really will be the end of the world so they decided to put together the world's most epic series of action cliches and visual diarrhea that they possibly could in a single film before the end.

I'm sure it will be full of laughs, so I guess it has that going for it. :lol:

Groucho
06-18-09, 02:46 PM
The "Shining" trailer was pretty cool, I'll give it that.

Pointyskull
06-18-09, 02:48 PM
Unlikely I will go to the theater for it, but count me in for some Blu-Ray action.

These kind of movies are one of my many secret shames...

RichC2
06-18-09, 02:48 PM
Oh man that looks spectacularly awful.

Kicker_of_Elves
06-18-09, 02:50 PM
If Danny Glover doesn't say "I'm too old for this shit!" one time throughout this movie, I'm gonna go club some baby seals.

OldBoy
06-18-09, 02:57 PM
it's got a great cast:
John Cusack
Thandie Newton
Woody Harrelson
Amanda Peet
Morgan Lily
Danny Glover
Oliver Platt
Chiwetel Ejiofor
George Segal

can't be all bad :shrug:

islandclaws
06-18-09, 03:08 PM
^ It's directed by Roland Emmerich, so yes it can.

Bandoman
06-18-09, 03:13 PM
I will be watching this on BD at home, it looks wonderfully awful.

AnonomusBob15
06-18-09, 03:13 PM
this is going to be horrible, but I love disaster films and this one looks epic! Too bad that trailer had enough cheese for one entire movie's worth, you know the movie will be unbearable.

devilshalo
06-18-09, 03:18 PM
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/525770-sony-buys-emmerichs-2012-a-2.html

MBoyd
06-18-09, 03:24 PM
Glad to see Oliver Platt getting some work!

BullGooseLoony
06-18-09, 03:35 PM
I don't know about the plot, but this looks pretty spectacular. The action and the effects seem very real, so the movie actually looks kind of scary.

I know the hey-dey of disaster thrillers is gone, but this movie, despite expected story lulls, could be amazing.

Kal-El
06-18-09, 03:40 PM
Funny how people like starting threads for movies they claim is an "abomination". You'd think they'd just keep it to themselves and not even spread the word for it. Anyway, thanks for the heads-up! No one destroys the earth in the movies better than Emmerich. I'll watch it.

ChineseCheckers
06-18-09, 03:48 PM
I'll see it. It can't be worse than 10000BC right?

Superboy
06-18-09, 03:49 PM
Well, hopefully this movie has a plot. I mean the great thing about Independence Day and Star Gage was that they at least had a plot. The Day After Tomorrow didn't have a plot at all.

KnightLerxst
06-18-09, 03:53 PM
Looks like a fun disaster movie with a good cast. I don't expect it to be up for Best Picture. I expect to see a bunch of shit blow up...looks like a fun mindless flick.

OldBoy
06-18-09, 04:03 PM
^ It's directed by Roland Emmerich, so yes it can.

could be another "Independence Day" http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/shrug.gif

kstublen
06-18-09, 04:04 PM
It has a pretty good cast and the special effects look spectacular. I am sure it will suffer from some of the general pitfalls of disaster flicks, but I think I'll check it out. Independence day was great movie; it did a good job of making the alien invasion plot original and interesting and the characters were all great too. The Day After Tomorrow as awful. This one looks to be more like Independence Day in terms of quality.

Merkin Muffley
06-18-09, 04:10 PM
I get two things from that trailer. The movie looks awful. And I must go see it.

Superman07
06-18-09, 04:10 PM
Deep Impact 2?

ChristianB
06-18-09, 04:15 PM
Sony made a poor decision moving 2012 to November instead of it's original July slot.

Ash Ketchum
06-18-09, 04:23 PM
it's got a great cast:
John Cusack
Thandie Newton
Woody Harrelson
Amanda Peet
Morgan Lily
Danny Glover
Oliver Platt
Chiwetel Ejiofor
George Segal

can't be all bad :shrug:

That's an awful cast. There isn't a single person on that list, with the possible exception of George Segal, who I would look forward to seeing in a movie. Maybe if you put them all together, the result would be such sheer lunacy that it might be entertaining, but it's doubtful. Emmerich has gotten good results from eclectic casts before, but Will Smith, Vivica Fox, Randy Quaid, Dennis Quaid, and Emmy Rossum had a lot more trashy movie starpower than this bunch.

Groucho
06-18-09, 04:29 PM
I have been boycotting all Amanda Peet movies since her campaign to inject autism into our children.

mdc3000
06-18-09, 04:33 PM
Trailer has me sold - love me some destruction... I just hope it's not as bad as 10,000 BC.

Maxflier
06-18-09, 04:41 PM
Looks pretty damn awesome to me.

edstein
06-18-09, 04:49 PM
Deep Impact 2?

That was my first thought as well.

Numanoid
06-18-09, 04:51 PM
I love end of the world/Noah's Ark movies. And have been a John Cusack fan forever. Will definately being doing the blu-ray thing for this one.

mhg83
06-18-09, 04:53 PM
First thing i thought of when i heard Emmerichs voice "Hey its Uwe Boll!" And after seeing the trailer it looks like Emmerich is Uwe Boll meets Michael Bay :lol:

Numanoid
06-18-09, 04:53 PM
Deep Impact 2?Combined with When Worlds Collide 2.

Cardiac161
06-18-09, 05:00 PM
Wow, indeed!! It looks like the "best of" disasters in one movie. This movie may be laughable but I'm sure it'll look great in the big screen & in Bluray!!

RoboDad
06-18-09, 05:13 PM
And have been a John Cusack movie forever.
That sounds... painful.

OldBoy
06-18-09, 05:23 PM
That's an awful cast. There isn't a single person on that list, with the possible exception of George Segal, who I would look forward to seeing in a movie. Maybe if you put them all together, the result would be such sheer lunacy that it might be entertaining, but it's doubtful. Emmerich has gotten good results from eclectic casts before, but Will Smith, Vivica Fox, Randy Quaid, Dennis Quaid, and Emmy Rossum had a lot more trashy movie starpower than this bunch.

IYO of course. Ejiofor, Cusack, and Platt are great in most of what they do.

GoldenJCJ
06-18-09, 05:28 PM
Sadly, I'll watch it. Don't know if I'll see it in the theater but I'll definitely catch it in BD. Thanks to The Day After Tomorrow and 10,000 BC, I won't pony up the money for an Emmerich flick in the theater.


I'm wondering how it's going to end:
1. World Ends - makes sense considering 2012 IS the end of the world (at least according to this movie's logic)

2. Small band of survivors live to keep civilization going. - Most likely scenario but it doesn't make any sense, if the world's ends, it ends!

Sessa17
06-18-09, 05:31 PM
That's an awful cast. There isn't a single person on that list, with the possible exception of George Segal, who I would look forward to seeing in a movie. Maybe if you put them all together, the result would be such sheer lunacy that it might be entertaining, but it's doubtful.

No way, Chiwetel Ejiofor rules. Redbelt was great. Rest of the cast sucks hard though.

If this movie is delayed enough, it could come out AFTER the title year...

RagingBull80
06-18-09, 06:08 PM
I hope John Cusack says, "welcome to Earth!" And then punches an alien in the face.

Shilex
06-18-09, 06:43 PM
Ok, we need a poll. I think this looks awesome!

I've never seen destruction on that scale in a movie before. It's too bad the plot will be the killer of this movie (why do we always have to follow a family and their Speilberg moments?). Here's crossing my fingers that they don't puss out and have a magical solution for the world ending. Blow it up is what I says! I'd like to see the people in a spaceship at the end looking at a crumbling world from space while they float into nothingness. Bam! The End.

Dean Kousoulas
06-18-09, 06:52 PM
Ok, we need a poll. I think this looks awesome!

I've never seen destruction on that scale in a movie before. It's too bad the plot will be the killer of this movie (why do we always have to follow a family and their Speilberg moments?). Here's crossing my fingers that they don't puss out and have a magical solution for the world ending. Blow it up is what I says! I'd like to see the people in a spaceship at the end looking at a crumbling world from space while they float into nothingness. Bam! The End.

Exactly! Grow some fucking balls! All these movies are the same. The special effects are amazing and state of the art for their time, but the plot is always laughable, and makes you feel sorry for the star power involved...for a minute or 2.

If this movie is about the end of the world, I want the world to blow up like Smoke's fatality in Mortal Kombat 3.

Nick Martin
06-18-09, 06:54 PM
I hope John Cusack says, "welcome to Earth!" And then punches an alien in the face.


It would be better if Ejiofor says that and then beats the alien down Operative-style.

That would rock.

Rival11
06-18-09, 06:55 PM
Yes, as a movie it will prob be brutal to sit through but man, did you see the detail in some of those shots? I definitely wouldn't say they looked bad.

Check your brain at the door and blow some shit up man!!!

We may get lucky and not have too much "acting" or "drama" - come on, think positive.

chris_sc77
06-18-09, 06:56 PM
I wish they woulda called this The Day After the Day After Tomorrow .
But yeah this does look kinda pointless.

Nick Martin
06-18-09, 07:02 PM
Too bad this won't have the amazing David Arnold scores that ID4, Stargate and Godzilla had. ID4 was the score that made me a film music fan.

This one, like 10,000 BC was co-written by Harald Kloser, who isn't even a screenwriter - he's Arnold's composing successor for Emmerich's movies from Day After Tomorrow onward.

resinrats
06-18-09, 07:51 PM
Here's crossing my fingers that they don't puss out and have a magical solution for the world ending.
Emmerich is pretty good at not copping out. They couldn't stop the ice age in Day After Tomorrow. ID4 did go through and let aliens almost wipe us out (most alien movie say the invasion will happen but stop it before any large attack happens).

zombeaner
06-18-09, 08:03 PM
I'm looking forward to it, I probably won't catch it in the theater only because I never have time, but I'll definitely be watching it at home! I love disaster movies.

Labor
06-18-09, 08:11 PM
Id much rather see another Alien invasion movie from Emmerich.

The SFX in that trailer look astonishing I have to admit though.

Living Deadpan
06-18-09, 08:38 PM
Roland Emmerich is the reason I stopped watching Roland Emmerich movies.

The Antipodean
06-18-09, 09:13 PM
I just didn't know Barack Obama would turn into Danny Glover. It's a hard job!

This looks like cheesy fun, but certainly not expecting deep thoughts.

Rockmjd23
06-18-09, 09:18 PM
Who's worse...Roland Emmerich or Stephen Sommers?

AnonomusBob15
06-18-09, 09:31 PM
Stephen Sommers though I didn't see 10,000 B.C.

LickTheABCs
06-18-09, 09:37 PM
Looks like something Asylum would put out. With better effects. I'm there.

TOLEN
06-18-09, 09:39 PM
Looks like a fun disaster movie with a good cast. I don't expect it to be up for Best Picture. I expect to see a bunch of shit blow up...looks like a fun mindless flick.

Exactly. The movies story could suck balls. But, like the White House & NY getting blown up in ID4 and NY getting frozen in Day After Tomorrow. You are excited to see that and not the story.

Brent L
06-18-09, 09:41 PM
The best part of the trailer is the quick shot of them airlifting a freakin' giraffe.

Numanoid
06-18-09, 11:14 PM
That sounds... painful.Ooops. :blush:

Nick Martin
06-18-09, 11:40 PM
Uwe Boll seems to make movies just to piss people off - his whole personality comes across that way.

Emmerich just likes making popcorn movies. The one "serious" film he made was "The Patriot", while everything else has been a bigger-than-life disaster/sci-fi epic. Fun entertainment with a message thrown in amidst the eye candy.

He's apparently done quite a lot for the preservation of gay and lesbian film, though you'd never know it based on his own films. For example, he cut that Harvey Fierstein/Jeff Goldblum comedic kiss from ID4 because it was "men kissing" according to the DVD commentary. Strange move but I suppose it was probably a studio choice since he was met with resistance from Fox when casting a black actor(Will Smith) to headline the film. I guess if there are obvious choices in his casting - as racially and culturally diverse as to make it obvious, that's the whole idea.

He and former producing partner Dean Devlin have been bantering about teaming up for a movie again some day, but it still hasn't happened yet.

He may not make movies that people can be kind to critically, but his movies are generally very well put together. Not high-gloss in that Michael Bay sense, but they don't have to be. In that regard, Uwe Boll would certainly have nothing to say.

I haven't seen 10,000 BC but I'll check it out. I'll gladly check this film out too. To me an "abomination" is Batman & Robin. I'll take any Emmerich movie over that in a heartbeat. My remark about Emmerich's movies being well made stands tall over that stinking pile of Bat guano and Bird turd, which was indeed poorly made.

Artman
06-18-09, 11:46 PM
Strange move but I suppose it was probably a studio choice since he was met with resistance from Fox when casting a black actor(Will Smith) to headline the film. I guess if there are obvious choices in his casting - as racially and culturally diverse as to make it obvious, that's the whole idea.


In my film class in college my instructor thought ID4 was laughably stereotypical. But how can that be when a black guy is the hero of the movie? Because black men are allowed to be strong warriors, athletes, etc, the smart roles went to Jewish characters...and what did we have for celebration scenes at the end? Natives cheering with spears raised in the air!

Superboy
06-19-09, 12:05 AM
I get two things from that trailer. The movie looks awful. And I must go see it.

You forgot "come back to the forum and bitch".

dsa_shea
06-19-09, 12:07 AM
The plot = the world ends. If it does really end the movie succeeds at least at a basic level. The special effects do look good and is a bit overwhelming thinking that if nature or the earth turned against us that something like this could happen.

Troy Stiffler
06-19-09, 01:00 AM
Trailer looks good. I like how gigantor the effects are. It'll be interesting to see how good they look on the big screen.

Axeramm
06-19-09, 04:07 AM
I dont have Blu-Ray or a big HD tv yet so i figure i will see this at the theater. Dont think i can see this much shit get blown up on a 32".

Grubert
06-19-09, 05:15 AM
Ok, we need a poll. I think this looks awesome!

I've never seen destruction on that scale in a movie before. It's too bad the plot will be the killer of this movie (why do we always have to follow a family and their Speilberg moments?).

Because Emmerich is the textbook definition of 'derivative', as Terry Gilliam explained so well:

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Jaymole
06-19-09, 05:57 AM
Just seeing the name Roland Emmerich is disaster enough for me.

GoldenJCJ
06-19-09, 10:22 AM
Who's worse...Roland Emmerich or Stephen Sommers?

The jury's still out until G.I. Joe hits theaters. Though I will say the trailer for 2012 looks a heck of a lot better than the trailer for G.I. Joe.

RichC2
06-19-09, 10:27 AM
Yeah I'll give it that, I could watch this for mindless goofy entertainment (though that plane flying through the disaster areas makes me cringe), GI Joe just looks terrible.


I haven't seen 10,000 BC but I'll check it out. I'll gladly check this film out too. To me an "abomination" is Batman & Robin. I'll take any Emmerich movie over that in a heartbeat. My remark about Emmerich's movies being well made stands tall over that stinking pile of Bat guano and Bird turd, which was indeed poorly made.

Watch 10,000 BC, it really is THAT bad.

Bandit03
06-19-09, 11:39 AM
I'm a sucker for these disaster movies; they usually have some kind of entertainment value. I'll probably wait for the DVD though :lol:

Snowmaker
06-19-09, 11:49 AM
So this isn't a sequel to 2001 and 2010?

Ash Ketchum
06-19-09, 11:49 AM
Judging from this trailer, doesn't this movie fall under the category of Disaster Porn? One money shot after another...won't that just get tiring?

Also, it reminds me a great deal of the plot of George Pal's 1951 classic, WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE.

fumanstan
06-19-09, 11:57 AM
The effects look pretty cool.

naitram
06-19-09, 12:05 PM
I love Disaster Porn. Wish this was coming out in the summer, though.

majorjoe23
06-19-09, 01:04 PM
could be another "Independence Day" http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/shrug.gif

I'm not expecting much, but no way could it be that bad!

Maxflier
06-19-09, 01:31 PM
Judging from this trailer, doesn't this movie fall under the category of Disaster Porn? One money shot after another...won't that just get tiring?



Yeah, but you don't watch a whole disaster porno all in one sitting. You just watch a few scenes at a time.

Ash Ketchum
06-19-09, 01:53 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if the Mayan calendar was off by three years and the world actually ended before the movie came out?

LickTheABCs
06-19-09, 01:58 PM
So this isn't a sequel to 2001 and 2010?

Not sure actually. I thought it was a prequel to 2019: After The Fall of New York.

Charlie Goose
06-19-09, 02:26 PM
That looks approximately 100 kinds of AWESOME.

Except for the shots of John Cusack and the kid looking around in amazement. I hate seeing kids in disaster flicks, they never die!

I'm totally seeing it. Opening weekend, bitches.

foofighters7
06-19-09, 02:29 PM
I think this would be a good voice over as the trailer starts
(just think deep voice)

"You seen 2001...You heard about 2010. There was a film called 2019, you probably never seen or heard of.
But now 2012...Later than 2001 and 2010, not quite as late as 2019 but better than all those bastards put together."

From Visionary Filmmaker Roland The Headless Emerich Gunner, Director of 'Patriot: The Day after Our Independence Day from Godzilla 10,000 BC' and 'Universal Star Soldier Gate' comes a story about Love, Life, Journey and Death all wrapped up in a story about Life, Journey, Love and Death.

See it again for the first time... Yes... we meant to say that even before you had a chance to see it one time."

Tsar Chasm
06-19-09, 02:53 PM
That was my first thought as well.

me 3

Living Deadpan
06-20-09, 02:18 AM
So this isn't a sequel to 2001 and 2010?

Roland Emmerich wouldn't know what to do with a monolith.

Living Deadpan
06-20-09, 02:24 AM
The plot = the world ends. If it does really end the movie succeeds at least at a basic level.

If the world ends, that's the end of the movie. If the movie continues, the world hasn't ended, and it fails at a basic level.

If you want a film where the world really ends, watch Dr. Strangelove.

atlantamoi
06-20-09, 05:45 AM
The idea of the movie doesn't bug me (I like science fiction), but that trailer is horrifying. "The Day After Tomorrow" was one of the worst movies I've ever seen and this looks every bit as cloying.

tommyp007
06-20-09, 07:29 AM
Looks like a fun film. I'll see it.

raven56706
06-20-09, 12:18 PM
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Ranger
06-20-09, 12:49 PM
I really enjoyed the day after tomorrow, so I will probably like this.

Mountain Biker
06-20-09, 01:10 PM
That looks approximately 100 kinds of AWESOME.

Except for the shots of John Cusack and the kid looking around in amazement. I hate seeing kids in disaster flicks, they never die!

I'm totally seeing it. Opening weekend, bitches.


This

kstublen
06-20-09, 01:23 PM
If the world ends, that's the end of the movie. If the movie continues, the world hasn't ended, and it fails at a basic level.

If you want a film where the world really ends, watch Dr. Strangelove.

What do you mean if the movie continues, the world hasn't ended?

Ash Ketchum
06-20-09, 01:50 PM
BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES (1970) had a pretty conclusive ending in this regard, all because ol' Chuck couldn't stand being around all those "damned, dirty apes." The only way they could do sequels was to send two of the principal ape characters back in time to our era (i.e. 1971).

Son of Odin
06-21-09, 12:55 AM
all i know is the cg and fx look beyond incredible. the cast looks good. emmerich's first good cast since ID4, and that was one of the best summer blockbusters i've seen. the blu-ray is going to be the king of reference titles. the plot might be bad but if anybody can match michael bay in terms of blowing shit up, it's emmerich. i'm in.

Solid Snake
06-21-09, 01:09 AM
Because Emmerich is the textbook definition of 'derivative', as Terry Gilliam explained so well:

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Wow. Isn't that on the DVD for Tideland...haven't seen that for a while. Gilliam is correct though. I won't deny though that the visuals are amazing for this thing.

wm lopez
06-21-09, 06:01 PM
Because Emmerich is the textbook definition of 'derivative', as Terry Gilliam explained so well:

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That was a great explaination.