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The Edit King
06-16-09, 06:44 PM
UPDATE:
Please be aware, we will be taking the site down for maintenance Wednesday, June 17th at 12PM.

This maintenance is to repair the recent database errors.Why shut down the site during the afternoon?

I understand you're talking about 2 hours (if indeed it will only be 2 hours), but can't this stuff be done in the wee-time of the evening when most of us are fast asleep?

In other words...

WHAT IN THE WORLD AM I SUPPOSED TO DO FOR TWO HOURS??? :mad:

:sad:

-For THEEK'S Sake! :eek:

John Slider
06-16-09, 08:56 PM
Hopefully the downtime will fix all the long load time people have been suffering around here lately.

X
06-16-09, 09:20 PM
Hopefully the downtime will fix all the long load time people have been suffering around here lately.That's the idea.

pilot
06-17-09, 12:38 AM
Why shut down the site during the afternoon?

I understand you're talking about 2 hours (if indeed it will only be 2 hours), but can't this stuff be done in the wee-time of the evening when most of us are fast asleep?

In other words...

WHAT IN THE WORLD AM I SUPPOSED TO DO FOR TWO HOURS??? :mad:

:sad:

-For THEEK'S Sake! :eek:
I think they schedule it, while the time is inconvenient, it's when there are people around (ie more than 1) who can trouble shoot and/or fix if a major issue were to occur, versus doing it late when maybe one person stays late and if something happens, there's nobody else to help/troubleshoot/fix.

VinVega
06-17-09, 09:53 AM
I think they schedule it, while the time is inconvenient, it's when there are people around (ie more than 1) who can trouble shoot and/or fix if a major issue were to occur, versus doing it late when maybe one person stays late and if something happens, there's nobody else to help/troubleshoot/fix.
That's a good point. The IB employees also have lives and this is a relatively free site. I know that's not a popular reason, but I'm just throwing it out there as well. 2 hours of downtime in the middle of the day is a small price to pay for fixing the terrible slowness we've seen in the mornings on a regular basis.

D.Pham00
06-17-09, 10:12 AM
who are you calling slow? my avatar is offended. :mad:

Mopower
06-17-09, 12:30 PM
Hopefully the downtime will fix all the long load time people have been suffering around for years.

Fixed.

The Edit King
06-17-09, 12:32 PM
^Tell it like it is, BROTHER! :up:

Okay okay, I hear ya, and appreciate you all for taking time to respond (with the obvious exception of our in house comedian, Mr. Donald Phamward, who will (by the way) be opening the parking lot for the Wayne Newton Show in Vegas next week).

You know...

I can't count how many times we've had fix the forum over the last 10 years. It seems to me the moment they 'fix' it, that's when the new problems start and we're back where we began, and more and more and more maintenance is needed over and over again, and so it goes.

If the forum was a car I would have sold this turkey years ago! :lol:

(Maybe Geoff knew something he kept on the hush-hush. :lol: )

But in the end, and For it has been said:

'Such is life on the Internets.'

-The Edit King Master http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x148/paul3rd_bucket/costumed-smiley-067.gif

D.Pham00
06-17-09, 01:09 PM
Actually, you should thank me. I changed my avatar to send a subconscious signal to the mods about how slow the forum is, and sure enough, they are acting on it! ;)

DVD-ho78(DTS)
06-17-09, 02:36 PM
Almost that time. "Hold on to your butts."

X
06-17-09, 08:03 PM
Seems to be running pretty good now.

Dr Mabuse
06-17-09, 08:11 PM
It's a little more responsive at first look.

Maybe a lot more responsive.

IB-Dick
06-17-09, 08:27 PM
I think they schedule it, while the time is inconvenient, it's when there are people around (ie more than 1) who can trouble shoot and/or fix if a major issue were to occur, versus doing it late when maybe one person stays late and if something happens, there's nobody else to help/troubleshoot/fix.

You're correct that we do schedule it, and while it's never optimal to do maintenance in the middle of the day, we end up locked into certain times-- not because of our schedules, we have people here around the clock. We have to schedule around other projects. For this specific maintenance, there was one specific person who I wanted to do a big part of it. He had a lot of other things scheduled and this was one of those windows.


I can't count how many times we've had fix the forum over the last 10 years. It seems to me the moment they 'fix' it, that's when the new problems start and we're back where we began, and more and more and more maintenance is needed over and over again, and so it goes.

As forums get bigger, they hit different walls regarding expandability. A site with 50,000 posts gets new problems when it hits 100,000 posts and then again at 200,000 posts, and so on. It's a constant struggle.

This latest move should give the site more growing room.

fumanstan
06-17-09, 08:52 PM
I can't count

It's ok buddy, we can help you!

davidh777
06-17-09, 08:53 PM
As forums get bigger, they hit different walls regarding expandability. A site with 50,000 posts gets new problems when it hits 100,000 posts and then again at 200,000 posts, and so on. It's a constant struggle.

This latest move should give the site more growing room.

Yeah, I was just gonna say that as long as they keep all the data, scalability would be a constant issue.

The Edit King
06-17-09, 08:54 PM
It's ok buddy, we can help you!Okay, but BE GENTLE! http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x148/paul3rd_bucket/redface.gif

(I'm new to the numbers business.)

IB-D: Thanks for taking me to school!

Hey! You guys have to know that I sincerely appreciate all the work Y'ALL put into this place to keep it up & running. :up:

With that said...

If anything ever really seriously happened to DVD Talk, first I'd FREAK OUT (literally) for sure, & then (once they caught me) they'd have to increase my medication. That would only lead me to begrudgingly join some lesser, trailer trash, low life, loser forum and while sitting there rocking back & forth in a bored, drooling stooper, I'd daydream of the 'good ol' days' and what it used to feel like belonging to the BEST DAMN WEBSITE FOR DVD INFORMATION EVER CREATED!!! :(

( :lol: )

Presently, the Forum seems to be reaching LIGHT SPEED*, and I really LIKEY-LIKEY!!! :dance:

(*...or 'Plaid', whichever is faster.)

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY!!!

(That includes D.Phamy too.)

-Mr. The Edit King! http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x148/paul3rd_bucket/king_hulk.gif

twikoff
06-17-09, 10:20 PM
any new additions we havent noticed?
or just standard maintenance?

D.Pham00
06-18-09, 12:18 PM
(That includes D.Phamy too.)



i told you my avatar trick would work! :thumbsup:

pilot
06-18-09, 12:31 PM
any new additions we havent noticed?
or just standard maintenance?
I believe it was just maintenance. No new features..

IB-Dick
06-18-09, 12:40 PM
Yeah, I was just gonna say that as long as they keep all the data, scalability would be a constant issue.

That's exactly it!


Hey! You guys have to know that I sincerely appreciate all the work Y'ALL put into this place to keep it up & running. :up:

We know you do!

If anything ever really seriously happened to DVD Talk, first I'd FREAK OUT (literally) for sure, & then (once they caught me) they'd have to increase my medication. That would only lead me to begrudgingly join some lesser, trailer trash, low life, loser forum and while sitting there rocking back & forth in a bored, drooling stooper, I'd daydream of the 'good ol' days' and what it used to feel like belonging to the BEST DAMN WEBSITE FOR DVD INFORMATION EVER CREATED!!! :(


I love this forum.

any new additions we havent noticed?
or just standard maintenance?

Well, this maintenance wasn't very standard, but it was just maintenance-- no new features.

VinVega
06-19-09, 11:56 AM
Site running much smoother. Thanks IB staff and admins. :up:

Dr Mabuse
06-19-09, 03:45 PM
No doubt.

I'm relatively new here but this is the most responsive I've ever seen this forum.

Canadian Bacon
06-20-09, 09:23 AM
Site running much smoother. Thanks IB staff and admins. :up:

not now

sluggish

me thinks they should shut it down/reboot every night around 3 am
maybe that'll help things

Bandoman
06-20-09, 07:14 PM
Runs great for me. :up:

The Edit King
06-21-09, 06:40 PM
Yes, it's good and all, however I have a question!

When I edit my posts, it takes like 30 or 40 seconds (or even longer) just to reload the page. It used to be LIGHTENING FAST!!! :eek:

Whatever happened to that speed you had me hooked on?

I'm hurtin'...feels like cold turkey...you've gotta help me man...

THE EDIT KING WANTS ANSWERS, DAMNIT!!! :mad:

Red Dog
06-22-09, 09:06 AM
not now

sluggish


Yep. Much worse than before.

Venusian
06-22-09, 09:23 AM
getting double posts again...i'm not even bothering to delete them anymore

dx23
06-22-09, 09:26 AM
Getting database errors, site slow as hell and seeing a lot of double posts. I thought this was fixed last week.

Kevin M. Dean
06-22-09, 09:36 AM
Yep, this thread took a minute to even open.

Kevin M. Dean
06-22-09, 09:36 AM
Yep, this thread took a minute to even open.

pinata242
06-22-09, 09:43 AM
:down:

IB-Dick
06-22-09, 12:04 PM
The fix we did last week wasn't perfect, but it got us closer to where we need to be. We have two more things that need to be done, and once they are, things should be a-ok. While they're far from perfect right now, for most of the time the site should be preforming well.

pinata242
06-22-09, 12:19 PM
It seems to really be a problem around 8:30am Eastern.

IB-Dick
06-22-09, 12:38 PM
It seems to really be a problem around 8:30am Eastern.

That's correct, there is an hour and a half window that the site's affected, 7:45-9:15am Eastern. We know why, and a fix is in the works. The rest of the time the site should be pretty stable.

pinata242
06-22-09, 12:40 PM
:up:

Giantrobo
06-22-09, 03:24 PM
Sorry if this has been posted, but the last page number link in some threads are to taking me back to the 2nd before last page instead of the last. It was happening in the "Dead Sno" thread in Movies and another one that I can't remember visiting right after it.

i.e. 34 is the last page but clicking it takes me to 33, but still stays 34 is the last page.

pinata242
06-22-09, 03:30 PM
That happens when the forum thinks there is another page of posts based on the number of replies, but someone(s) had deleted their post to bring the actual content to less than that.

D.Pham00
06-22-09, 05:08 PM
It seems to really be a problem around 8:30am Eastern.

ah, no wonder i didn't feel the problem...i'm not usually online at that time.

IB-Dick
06-23-09, 03:39 PM
So, it was fine this morning, right?

pinata242
06-23-09, 03:46 PM
So, it was fine this morning, right?

I had a late start, so I couldn't tell you ;)

The Edit King
06-23-09, 04:14 PM
I was on early and didn't notice any problems.

IB-Dick
06-23-09, 08:45 PM
I was on early and didn't notice any problems.

WWheew! If these early morning (east coast) problems start up again, please let me know!

The Edit King
06-23-09, 11:00 PM
WWheew! If these early morning (east coast) problems start up again, please let me know!I really wanna help...but I'm on the WEST COAST. :shrug:

Sorry. :(

(Will ya look at that! I've got some 22 THOUSAND POSTS more than you, NEWBIE!!! :lol: )

pinata242
06-24-09, 09:16 AM
(Will ya look at that! I've got some 22 THOUSAND POSTS more than you, NEWBIE!!! :lol: )

Taunting the mods, are we?

Site seems pretty well-put-together this morning.

Michael Corvin
06-24-09, 09:55 AM
Seems pretty shaky to me this morning.

pinata242
06-24-09, 10:07 AM
Yeah, after I posted that it starting to go downhill. It's almost like every other request is getting lost. I'll click on a thread and just refresh it and it seems to work.

IB-Dick
06-24-09, 12:29 PM
I really wanna help...but I'm on the WEST COAST. :shrug:

Sorry. :(

(Will ya look at that! I've got some 22 THOUSAND POSTS more than you, NEWBIE!!! :lol: )

Then get on at 5am!

Taunting the mods, are we?

Site seems pretty well-put-together this morning.

I'm not a mod, I'm the tech guy. I can mechanically ban people, but I have to ask X for permission first. Not that I ever would, lol. I only post when there's problems, so you can imagine I'm used to getting abused. I've got a pretty thick skin about it.

Yeah, after I posted that it starting to go downhill. It's almost like every other request is getting lost. I'll click on a thread and just refresh it and it seems to work.

Well, that stinks. I'm monitoring everything and can't find any slowness. I'll continue to watch it and see if I can find any cause.

The Edit King
06-24-09, 04:15 PM
Taunting the mods, are we?I'm not a mod, I'm the tech guy. I can mechanically ban people, but I have to ask X for permission first.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x148/paul3rd_bucket/sorry.jpg

D.Pham00
06-24-09, 05:21 PM
I was on early and didn't notice any problems.

well, apparently, THEEK never sleeps!

D.Pham00
06-24-09, 05:22 PM
I can mechanically ban people, but I have to ask X for permission first.

Even spammers?

Dr Mabuse
06-24-09, 05:36 PM
The forum is unable to load right now, 3:35 PM.

It's taking several refreshes just to get to a thread now.

The Edit King
06-24-09, 05:37 PM
How weird! I've been having NO PROBLEMO, ALL DAY! :up:

(...and I'm clicking on & posting in a lot of threads.)

Dr Mabuse
06-24-09, 05:39 PM
I just had to reload 3 times to see what you posted.

I'm on other vBulletin forums right now, they are fine. It's not on my end.

The Edit King
06-24-09, 05:45 PM
I just had to reload 3 times to see what you posted.

I'm on other vBulletin forums right now, they are fine. It's not on my end.Ummmm. :shrug:

Sorry to hear it, Doctor.

It's still okay on this end.

Dr Mabuse
06-24-09, 05:48 PM
Don't start up with your 'it's still okay on this end' shit again.

There is no stopping in the red zone.



It's been hit and miss now. Sometimes it won't load, sometimes it does. After a few reloads it will finally 'get it's mind right'.

The Edit King
06-24-09, 05:57 PM
:lol:

So...

You think 'THE MAN' is doing this ONLY TO YOU???

Lay off the loco-weed and things will clear up in a couple hours.

Dr Mabuse
06-24-09, 06:02 PM
Just got my first outright error trying to post in 'politics'.

VBulletin should have logged that error.

The Edit King
06-24-09, 06:07 PM
Damn! -ohbfrank-

This is the kind of thing mysteries are made of.

Thor Simpson
06-24-09, 06:34 PM
The forum is also not working for me right now. I'm not even sure who is typing this.

The Edit King
06-24-09, 06:55 PM
Well, CRAP! :mad:

Now it's happening to me!

Must be my PC because my keyboard isn't working and I can't post this!

The Edit King
06-24-09, 08:43 PM
(For those who may have not understood...I was just kidding.)

Of COURSE I can post.

The real problem is that I can't sign on to DVD Talk to tell you all that I was just kidding. :(

dx23
06-25-09, 08:39 AM
Database error started appearing a 7:00 AM this morning.