ATLANTIC CITY, New Jersey — Saturday was a record-setting night for a novice craps player at an Atlantic City casino.
Patricia Demauro set a new record for the longest craps roll, hanging on for four hours and 18 minutes at the Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa.
Borgata officials say she beat the previous record by one hour and 12 minutes. They say Stanley Fujitake of Honolulu, set that record nearly 20 years ago in Las Vegas.
"This was only my second time playing craps, so this was very exciting for me to be a part of history," says Demauro, who lives in Denville in northern New Jersey.
Demauro bought into a game for $100 and quickly amassed a cheering crowd. When she finally lost around 12:31 a.m., after 154 rolls of the dice, she was greeted by Borgata with a champagne toast.
The casino wouldn't say how much Demauro won.
pedagogue
05-25-09, 10:36 AM
That may be my aunt, seriously. She lives somewhere up in NJ.
I've rolled for like 20-30 minutes...I can't imagine FOUR hours.
Red Dog
05-25-09, 10:36 AM
she was greeted by Borgata with a champagne toast
How nice of them. :lol:
That's amazing. I hope there were some fire bets going.
actyper
05-25-09, 12:53 PM
Is she blacklisted yet?
El Scorcho
05-26-09, 03:16 PM
someone on 2p2 posts:
From what ive heard though people I know who work there the table only lost 168k. I wouldve have guessed like at least half a mil. Kind of pathetic it was only that.
Deftones
05-26-09, 03:44 PM
only $168k? that's fucking pathetic. people obviously weren't increasing their bet amounts.
Dean Kousoulas
05-27-09, 11:53 PM
I wonder how many times the casino brought in new dice. ;)
But only $168k? Jeez, what was it, the $5 table?
ggg
05-28-09, 12:56 AM
To the person who mentioned a "Fire Bet". Borgata does not have fire bets. Does anyone know if any sevens were made on the comeout roll?
ggg
05-28-09, 01:20 AM
The person who mentioned about bringing in new dice obviously does not know anything about the game. The person keeps the dice until she sevens out.
edstein
05-28-09, 09:43 AM
The person who mentioned about bringing in new dice obviously does not know anything about the game. The person keeps the dice until she sevens out.
True but, it's not common to go on such a long streak. The casino may have the option to switch dice after a certain number of rolls if loaded dice are in question.
ggg
05-28-09, 09:52 AM
All the casino would do is check the dice to make sure it was theirs.
El Scorcho
05-28-09, 02:00 PM
you'd have a mutiny on your hands at casinos worldwide if they were suddenly allowed to swap dice whenever they felt like it
Dean Kousoulas
05-28-09, 08:34 PM
The person who mentioned about bringing in new dice obviously does not know anything about the game. The person keeps the dice until she sevens out.
No shit, it was a stupid joke about the casino freaking out and forcing new dice into the game, for fear of foul play.
Deftones
05-28-09, 08:44 PM
No shit, it was a stupid joke about the casino freaking out and forcing new dice into the game, for fear of foul play.
he's new. cut him some slack. he apparently registered just so he could refute what you posted. :lol:
clintonb
05-29-09, 01:25 PM
Insane. I wonder how much she won.
it was a 10 dollar game they were playin on.if some rolls for 4 hours and 18 minutes a player that doesnt know what they are doin should win a 50,000 alone.i work at a casino and we had a 1 hour 30 minute roll and a player won 250,000 by himself and we have a max bet of 2,000 and the bogota has alot more.with a roll like that i would have 10,000 r more on every number.i would have won half a mill by myself.the table should have lost over a million-3 million.well i sure hope the dealer made at least 10,000 off the whole roll.cause we know how you craps playes love to stiff the dealer on that game.alot of work on that game.but man that had to a great feeling.anyone want to know about anything with casinos add me to you yahoo messenger.clintyboy2007
El Scorcho
05-30-09, 05:51 AM
^^^
clearly you don't need a college education to deal craps
kvrdave
05-31-09, 02:54 AM
I prefer to roll blackjack.
aktick
06-01-09, 12:13 PM
Last time I was in Vegas somebody rolled for a little over an hour, the longest I've heard of when I've been around (alas, I showed up right at the end)...the dealers were really pissed that nobody was betting much at all. This was just at Bill's, but still, sounds like there were only a few hundred bucks out on the table at a time.
DeltaSigChi4
06-01-09, 12:30 PM
When the die fall off the table, the supervisor will signal the stickman to drop all of the die, MIXING the hot player's [especially if they are known to be superstitious, or easily rattled by such a maneuver] original die with all the others. I've seen this done numerous times.
Pretty amusing stuff. If the player is really rattled/approaching irate, I pull down my bets. Don't invest on maniacs.
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El Scorcho
06-01-09, 04:13 PM
The dice don't give a shit if the person throwing is hot or cold, irate or the coolest motherfucker alive
DeltaSigChi4
06-01-09, 10:20 PM
You're wrong. If a person has a controlled set release, they have a controlled release. If a person rattles them around in their goddamn hands like they learned in the scene in Indecent Proposal, I am taking my bets down until someone who ISN'T a complete imbecile is throwing.
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Deftones
06-01-09, 10:51 PM
You're wrong. If a person has a controlled set release, they have a controlled release. If a person rattles them around in their goddamn hands like they learned in the scene in Indecent Proposal, I am taking my bets down until someone who ISN'T a complete imbecile is throwing.
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no. you are wrong as usual.
bigsoos
06-02-09, 11:43 AM
When the die fall off the table, the supervisor will signal the stickman to drop all of the die, MIXING the hot player's [especially if they are known to be superstitious, or easily rattled by such a maneuver] original die with all the others. I've seen this done numerous times.
You can call for the same die though.
El Scorcho
06-02-09, 12:01 PM
You're wrong. If a person has a controlled set release, they have a controlled release. If a person rattles them around in their goddamn hands like they learned in the scene in Indecent Proposal, I am taking my bets down until someone who ISN'T a complete imbecile is throwing.
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You can probably count the amount of expert dice setters in Las Vegas at any given time on your two hands and guess what -- they're not at your $3 craps table at Casino Royale.
Despite the fact that a shitload of craps players place the dice on the table and set them in a particular configuration before they throw, they are nowhere near skilled enough to both keep the dice rotating on a horizontal axis (without rotating the dice on the vertical axis at all) AND hit the position on the wall at the other end correctly often enough to manipulate/reduce the amount of times each die tumbles.
Long story short: You're wrong yet again
mgbfan
06-02-09, 12:42 PM
Ditto. Anyone who actually buys into this irate/rattled nonsense probably also believes that there's a system to beat roulette. In other words, the opinion is easily dismissed.
Red Dog
06-02-09, 03:30 PM
Long story short: You're wrong yet again
:lol:
El Scorcho
06-02-09, 03:50 PM
Ditto. Anyone who actually buys into this irate/rattled nonsense probably also believes that there's a system to beat roulette. In other words, the opinion is easily dismissed.
speaking of roulette, i saw the most fucked up thing last time I sat with a chick who was playing roulette
the same number came up four times in a row (1 in 54,871 of this happening)
old dude dealer said he's been a roulette croupier for 30 years and never done it
DeltaSigChi4
06-03-09, 12:46 AM
It is a FACT [maybe you're unfamiliar with craps tables] that some people are statistically better players than others. It is a FACT that some people get invested on as soon as they show up to play at their regularly scheduled time because others that frequent THE SAME PROPERTY know that they are good throwers. But it's all random of course. Sportsbetting is all random as well. And good driving.
Women play roulette. Only women, btw.
Carry on. Let me know when you know more about Vegas than me.*
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* never
pedagogue
06-03-09, 01:12 AM
El Shorto may not know many things....but he knows gambling and LV. He also knows how to get away with drinking straight from a 1.75L of booze that he keeps ON the blackjack table.
mgbfan
06-03-09, 02:28 AM
It is a FACT [maybe you're unfamiliar with craps tables] that some people are statistically better players than others. It is a FACT that some people get invested on as soon as they show up to play at their regularly scheduled time because others that frequent THE SAME PROPERTY know that they are good throwers.
It's a FACT that nobody with any knowledge of anything will ever take anything you say here seriously again.
Carry on. Let me know when you know more about Vegas than me.*
Can I get suspended for calling someone an assclown? Best not to risk it.
DeltaSigChi4
06-03-09, 05:06 AM
:rolleyes:
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Lunatikk
06-03-09, 09:21 AM
Carry on. Let me know when you know more about Vegas than me.*
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* never
Is it still a $40 cab ride from Caesar's to the Airport?
I'm T-minus 1 day 16 hours from arriving in Vegas. Can't wait.
Deftones
06-03-09, 10:07 AM
It is a FACT [maybe you're unfamiliar with craps tables] that some people are statistically better players than others. It is a FACT that some people get invested on as soon as they show up to play at their regularly scheduled time because others that frequent THE SAME PROPERTY know that they are good throwers. But it's all random of course. Sportsbetting is all random as well. And good driving.
Women play roulette. Only women, btw.
Carry on. Let me know when you know more about Vegas than me.*
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* never
Just when I thought your lack of knowledge was limited to things like MMA, you come in here and start posting this. Wow. The stupidity never ceases!
El Scorcho
06-03-09, 01:47 PM
It is a FACT [maybe you're unfamiliar with craps tables] that some people are statistically better players than others. It is a FACT that some people get invested on as soon as they show up to play at their regularly scheduled time because others that frequent THE SAME PROPERTY know that they are good throwers. But it's all random of course. Sportsbetting is all random as well. And good driving.
I already conceded it's a fact (btw you capitalizing something doesn't make it so) -- but I also informed you that the number of people who have gained an edge via dice control is infinitesimal compared to the number of craps players in Las Vegas. These are the people that have built carbon-copy craps tables in their own garage and throw hundreds of thousands of rolls perfecting their technique. And even so, they're only shifting the house edge slightly in their favor -- those little nubs on the wall at the end of the table are there to fuck everything up.
The fact that you "pull your bets down" every time someone starts rolling and bouncing dice all the way down the table instead of a nice controlled arc is hilarious given that the guy throwing the nice controlled arc is almost assuredly not a practiced steadfast quality dice-setter. In other words, he has no more control over the dice than the guy bouncing the dice down the table.
In the end it's all gambling and whenever gambling is involved, people like to think they know more than they actually do and marry themselves to a ton of logical and statistical fallacies along the way.
Like the blue-hairs sitting at a slot machine that lose a few spins in a row and start wiping their hand on the screen to erase the bad luck demons.
Or the guy walking by a roulette table that sees 8 blacks in a row have hit and puts money on red.
Or the guy who routinely stays on 16 vs dealer 10, opting to play by feel and not playing the mathematically correct way because he "always busts when hitting 16".
Perhaps you should take more $40 cab rides from the airport to Caesar's Palace to study more?
Carry on. Let me know when you know more about Vegas than me.*
I know more about Vegas and gambling than you ever will. And unlike you, I don't have the luxury of living there, which makes it even better.
Red Dog
06-10-09, 10:13 AM
Or the guy who routinely stays on 16 vs dealer 10, opting to play by feel and not playing the mathematically correct way because he "always busts when hitting 16".
At least that's better than the one idiot I saw this past weekend. He gets 2 5s vs. a 6 and splits them. The very next hand - he gets 2 4s vs. a 6 and just hits it.
DeltaSigChi4
06-10-09, 12:53 PM
Right, because people with practice rigs don't have pyramid walls, they just have a flat wall, like if they are practicing for playing on a Bronx street corner. And yeah, time in traffic means nothing when in a cab. In fact, the more time you spend in a traffic jam, the more OFF the fee is taken off. You know, because of the inconvenience of it all. lol @ "lack of knowledge ... MMA". Continue trolling on gentlemen.
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Jeremy517
06-10-09, 01:17 PM
And yeah, time in traffic means nothing when in a cab. In fact, the more time you spend in a traffic jam, the more OFF the fee is taken off.
Sorry, but you already said that traffic was light:
It was around 0900, weekday, light traffic [relatively].
You need to come up with a new excuse for why you got long hauled.
DeltaSigChi4
06-10-09, 01:29 PM
Traffic was light, relatively. It wasn't 'there is no else going to Senator McCarren Airport' light. We were on LVBLVD and the frontage after Sunset for a while. But, then again, how is any of this remotely germane? Oh yeah, unoriginal/unimaginative and uninspiring trolling on a mass scale; I forgot.
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mgbfan
06-10-09, 02:59 PM
Right, because people with practice rigs don't have pyramid walls, they just have a flat wall, like if they are practicing for playing on a Bronx street corner.
Yeah, they use fancy rigs with pyramid walls, then take that hard-earned, yet very slim, edge out to the small stakes tables.
Man, does it ever get tiresome talking out of your ass?
El Scorcho
06-10-09, 04:01 PM
Yeah, they use fancy rigs with pyramid walls, then take that hard-earned, yet very slim, edge out to the small stakes tables.
Man, does it ever get tiresome talking out of your ass?
it's obviously worth it to practice for thousands of hours on a replica craps table so you can go crush the $3 craps game at Casino Royale -- avoids detection!
El Scorcho
06-10-09, 04:11 PM
Traffic was light, relatively. It wasn't 'there is no else going to Senator McCarren Airport' light. We were on LVBLVD and the frontage after Sunset for a while. But, then again, how is any of this remotely germane? Oh yeah, unoriginal/unimaginative and uninspiring trolling on a mass scale; I forgot.
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I'll do some more math for you cuz it's funny (figured were pulled from the original thread -- they've increased since then but the old ones still apply)
$3.30 flag drop + $1.20 airport fee + (3.7 miles x $2.20/mile) = $12.64 total fare
which also means you had $40 - $12.64 = $27.36 in unaccounted for cab fare
... which can only mean wait-time.
Wait time is charged at $28/hr and only when you're traveling "less than 8-12 MPH".
So in order for you to have a $40 cab fare, you will have needed to spend approximately 1 hour in the cab without moving. At 9 am. On a weekday.
I encourage you to debate any part of this post. All fares were taken from the Nevada Taxicab Authority when the thread first came up. 3.7 mile distance was quoted by google maps.
DeltaSigChi4
06-10-09, 04:32 PM
Monday. More math please.
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WallyOPD
06-10-09, 05:28 PM
Monday. More math please.
I'm pretty sure there's only one troll in this thread.
Deftones
06-10-09, 06:41 PM
I'll do some more math for you cuz it's funny (figured were pulled from the original thread -- they've increased since then but the old ones still apply)
$3.30 flag drop + $1.20 airport fee + (3.7 miles x $2.20/mile) = $12.64 total fare
which also means you had $40 - $12.64 = $27.36 in unaccounted for cab fare
... which can only mean wait-time.
Wait time is charged at $28/hr and only when you're traveling "less than 8-12 MPH".
So in order for you to have a $40 cab fare, you will have needed to spend approximately 1 hour in the cab without moving. At 9 am. On a weekday.
I encourage you to debate any part of this post. All fares were taken from the Nevada Taxicab Authority when the thread first came up. 3.7 mile distance was quoted by google maps.
i'm going to go out on a limb here and say he got a nice view of the Four Queens hotel on his way to the airport.
Oraphus
07-17-09, 06:55 PM
my best experience with craps was on a cruise ship. The guy rolled for about 45min.
I started with $40 and walked away with $1500 and was playing very conservatively(had abt $300 on the table at the time the guy crapped out). My buddy walked away with about 3k and many walked away with much more. 168k for the night definitely does not sound like much.
johnglass
07-17-09, 10:23 PM
168k for the night definitely does not sound like much.
I'm sure after the first hour or two there were plenty of people betting against the roller.
rabbit77
07-22-09, 05:08 PM
I saw a girl roll for about an hour straight at MGM Grand - she outlasted 3 dealer shifts. It was great. The table was 4 people deep.
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