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jeffbase34
05-05-09, 12:28 PM
10. Add – On Hardware -


Sometimes successful, mostly huge failures. Add ons for hardware have been around since the NES days with the gun zapper and Duck Hunt. Over the years, there have been countless new devices from power gloves, VR helmets, specialized controllers, steering wheels, joysticks, all designed to make the gaming experience more enjoyable and immersive. Most of these devices end up worthless after one game. Are is anyone really clammering for Eye of Judgement 2?

9. PS3 Arrogance –

Sony apparently thought the PS2 love was so high that fans would have no beef about dropping $600 bones for a gaming console. PS3 soon gathered dust on shelves.


8. Hormone Based Gaming


With the advance of 3D graphics, some dolts in a board room looked at the demographics and figured that guys would go gaga over video games featuring hot babes and not much else. The commercial for Dead or Alive Volleyball is still remembered as an embarrassment to the industry. And everyone just wants to forget The Guy Game ever existed.


7. No Save Anywhere

Are we still having this debate? Developers continue to think a game is more fun and challenging if they do not allow a save anywhere feature. Nothing sucks more than spending an hour progressing only to die a cheap death, and have to restart over. Far Cry 2 turned off many gamers to its elusive save structure. And Tales of Vesperia like many JRPGS will force you to go through lengthy dialogue screens if you die in the following battles. ARGH!!!!



6. Only Release on DLC

DLC was fine when it was restricted to demos and cheapo arcade titles. However, when full blown gaming titles started releasing exclusively on DLC, developers really froze themselves out of a full pontenial market. For one thing, not everyone has access to high speed internet especially people in rural areas. They have no way to enjoy GTA’s Lost and the Damned yet if the title released in store, there would be more sales. Plus some ppl don’t like fooling with entering in those card code numbers.



5. PC’s Piracy Fight

Back in the day, installing a PC game took nerves of steel, and lots of patience with decoder wheels, password decrypters and other clever ways to foil pirates. Piracy remains a problem for PC games, and the fight goes on. Unfortunately, the fight only manages to irritate legitimate customers, and not the pirates. Massive game file sizes and the need for multiplayer is a good deterrent as any.


4. Video Game as Sports!

Cyberatheletes? Does anyone take this serious? The push to establish video game as a competitive sport is one big joke. No one wants to root for some punk kid who is making tons of money by playing video games. Everyone depises the guy instead. And who enjoys watching people playing video games on a tv on your tv?


3. Video Game TV


Game Informer talks about this in their new issue. It’s a sad failure, yes video game tv is one big dud. It started 10 years ago with Tech TV, an excellent channel devoted to technology, computers and gaming. Then G4 came along and destroyed tech tv. Only Xplay survived . G4 was actually a great cable channel in the day. I enjoyed shows like Filter and Icons. Yet, due to lack of ratings, the show has been watered down to lousy Star Trek reruns. There just is no audience of video game related tv shows probably because the content is all online.



2. MMO madness

Everquest made it look easy. Design a MMO, rake in the money, release a few patches, rake in more money, a game that keeps on paying. So began the me too generation, and MMO after MMO bombed horribly. Even huge licenses like Star Wars could not duplicate the success of Everquest and later, World of Warcraft.



1. Over Hyping Duke Nukem Style

It has become a lame joke and general problem with the industry. Duke Nukem Forever was promised to us over 10 years ago. Is it even a real game in development? No one seems to know. The problem is when developers release info on their games years before the release. It creates huge hype and expectations, and the end result is that the game often disappoints when it finally comes out. Killzone 2 is a solid game, but the reaction feels deflated compared to the hype. Fable suffered greatly from this, while being a solid RPG, it failed to deliver the experience people had in their minds.

We would be better off not knowing about games until they are near completion.

flashburn
05-05-09, 12:31 PM
Were you just bored or did you lift this from somewhere?

Raul3
05-05-09, 12:44 PM
Either way it's a sad, sad, list. It seems the person that created that list didn't tried really hard.

Rockmjd23
05-05-09, 12:49 PM
I used to hate PC games that made me type in the 5th word on page 120 of the guidebook! I'm looking at you, Riders of Rohan.

murray731
05-05-09, 01:05 PM
Some of the stuff on this list doesn't make a lot of sense and appears to be the author's personal opinion. That's fine, but at least qualify it as such.

Groucho
05-05-09, 01:07 PM
Plus some ppl donít like fooling with entering in those card code numbers.Was this typed on a cell phone?

UncleGramps
05-05-09, 01:09 PM
How did the U.S. Sega Saturn launch not make this list? BOO.

RichC2
05-05-09, 01:09 PM
Is it me or does that list seem like it's from 2006-ish? If not sooner (I originally had 2004 but the PS3 mention gives it a boost).

Groucho
05-05-09, 01:15 PM
The rant against add-on hardware indicates that it pre-dates the Wii Balance Board.

RichC2
05-05-09, 01:17 PM
It also are is ignoring the reception of Guitar Hero and Rock Band.

Groucho
05-05-09, 01:19 PM
It also are is ignoring the reception of Guitar Hero and Rock Band.Whoa, yeah. Good point.

Rockmjd23
05-05-09, 01:24 PM
It also predates the AlphaGrip AG-5 PC Gaming and Text Entry Controller.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5862/sfdfsfsdsfdsdfy.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfdfsfsdsfdsdfy.jpg)

:|

murray731
05-05-09, 01:27 PM
It also are is

I see what you did there.

Derrich
05-05-09, 01:54 PM
How did the Atari 5200 non-centering controllers not make this list?

This list should be #2 on itself.

D

edstein
05-05-09, 02:03 PM
The first post should be on this list as well.

WMAangel
05-05-09, 02:20 PM
How did the U.S. Sega Saturn launch not make this list? BOO.

How did they ignore the "Nintendo spurns Sony in 1993, then has to spend more than a decade playing catch-up trying to regain the industry lead from them after the Playstation is introduced in 1995"?

Seriously, that's got to be at least a top 5, if not top 3, blunder right there....

RockyMtnBri
05-05-09, 02:53 PM
Add on hardware predates the NES - anyone remember the ColecoVision modules (including the keyboard and Adam computer) and the Intellivision keyboard? I specifically bring those up because the systems were built with ports (buses) for "future expansion." The OP is either relatively young or just opinionated.

Rockmjd23
05-05-09, 03:00 PM
Add on hardware predates the NES - anyone remember the ColecoVision modules (including the keyboard and Adam computer) and the Intellivision keyboard? I specifically bring those up because the systems were built with ports (buses) for "future expansion." The OP is either relatively young or just opinionated.
The first video game console, The Magnavox Odyssey, had a pretty realistic looking rifle light gun. Image one like that today?


http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/807/gdfdgdf.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gdfdgdf.jpg)

fujishig
05-05-09, 03:18 PM
These aren't even very specific blunders. Also, is this supposed to be US centric? I'm pretty sure "hormonal" games do well in JP, at least, and KR seems to love pro video game tourneys.

The PC piracy fight thing is laughable in what it describes... large file sizes and multiplayer? What if the game has no multiplayer? Should they artificially inflate file sizes in order to "combat piracy?" Now combating PC piracy with stuff like install limits is annoying, but it's not mentioned here.

Only release on DLC? DLC seems like a goldmine right now, I hardly think it's a blunder. If the list had referenced the many games that now seem to hold back content for DLC, I could see that making a list... maybe not a blunder list though, because it still rakes in the cash.

The lack of good shows about videogames on tv is somehow a gaming industry blunder?

I do totally agree with #9, and I'm annoyed by #7 though I can't call it an industry level blunder. The list has to include Nintendo's fall from grace in the PS1 era, Sega's fall from grace in the Saturn era, Nintendo's release of the Virtua Boy, the 3DO, the Jaguar, Atari's role in the crash of '83 which is usually symbolized by ET, etc. Maybe even the PSP launch and UMD, though I'm not sure that makes the top 10.

Tarantino
05-05-09, 03:22 PM
The Game Gear.

= J

RichC2
05-05-09, 03:24 PM
The Game Gear.

= J

You spelt Nomad wrong.

Brent L
05-05-09, 03:24 PM
The Game Gear's battery life...

Rockmjd23
05-05-09, 03:30 PM
Sega thinking that this was an ideal setup for a video gamer:

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/7592/eggaaaa.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eggaaaa.jpg)

should make any blunders list.

RockyMtnBri
05-05-09, 03:35 PM
Sega thinking that this was an ideal setup for a video gamer:

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/7592/eggaaaa.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eggaaaa.jpg)

should make any blunders list.
At least that image is of the console and CD that sat side by side! I had the original ones that stacked! Imagine plunking the 32X module on that!

RichC2
05-05-09, 03:37 PM
http://www.game-machines.com/consoles/syspics/segacd32x.gif

Is bad, but not much worse than:

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/nintendo-64dd-game-system-and-catridge.jpg

Brent L
05-05-09, 03:39 PM
I think this tops it all:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7262/908235443b964a412bc.jpg

RichC2
05-05-09, 03:41 PM
lest we forget these awesome controllers:

http://www.fantasylands.net/games&film/assets/images/Atari_jaguar_controller.jpg

Rockmjd23
05-05-09, 03:42 PM
I actually had the old style Genesis with the Sega CD that attached to the side. Used all these silver plates and screws.

RichC2
05-05-09, 03:45 PM
I actually had the old style Genesis with the Sega CD that attached to the side. Used all these silver plates and screws.

I hated that, caused my Sega CD to not work from time to time due to plate slippage.

Michael Corvin
05-05-09, 03:45 PM
lest we forget these awesome controllers:

http://www.fantasylands.net/games&film/assets/images/Atari_jaguar_controller.jpg

Looks more comfortable than this:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a76/MCorvin/keypads.jpg

Rockmjd23
05-05-09, 03:47 PM
The 5200 Trackball Controller was bigger than many consoles.
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2805/522222c.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=522222c.jpg)

Rockmjd23
05-05-09, 04:02 PM
Some more famous blunders, no descriptions needed:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9456/gizmondo5.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gizmondo5.jpg)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/192/superman64.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman64.jpg)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8862/sfdsfdsdf.gif (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sfdsfdsdf.gif)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6808/gsagfdgfgfgfgdggddfddf.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gsagfdgfgfgfgdggddfddf.jpg)

Decker
05-05-09, 04:17 PM
Lest we forget:
http://www.swotti.com/tmp/swotti/cacheBI1NYWDLVGVJAG5VBG9NES1DB25ZB2XLCW==/151.jpg http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:gYFOBS1ahEVnmM:http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/photos/ngage.jpg

Bandit03
05-05-09, 04:18 PM
http://www.drinkatwork.com/ET.jpg

This has to be on the list someplace

Michael Corvin
05-05-09, 04:36 PM
How did they ignore the "Nintendo spurns Sony in 1993, then has to spend more than a decade playing catch-up trying to regain the industry lead from them after the Playstation is introduced in 1995"?

Seriously, that's got to be at least a top 5, if not top 3, blunder right there....

That would be #1 for me.

RockyMtnBri
05-05-09, 04:43 PM
I think this tops it all:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7262/908235443b964a412bc.jpg
Tiiiiimber!

Rockmjd23
05-05-09, 04:48 PM
I'm trying to figure out what all of those are. Master System adapter on top of the 32x, then the genesis cleaning system, then Game Genie, then 2 Sonic and Knuckles cartridges with Sonic 3 on top?

Brent L
05-05-09, 04:57 PM
How about the original Mega Man artwork:

http://www.listropolis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/mega-man-1.jpg

RichC2
05-05-09, 06:02 PM
High Resolution Graphics? Oh god, what has been always will be, NOOO!!

Brent L
05-05-09, 06:06 PM
What would BLAST PROCESSING~!!! be considered?

Drexl
05-05-09, 07:06 PM
How did they ignore the "Nintendo spurns Sony in 1993, then has to spend more than a decade playing catch-up trying to regain the industry lead from them after the Playstation is introduced in 1995"?

Seriously, that's got to be at least a top 5, if not top 3, blunder right there....

Or how about Atari screwing up the deal to distribute the NES outside of Japan?

zekeburger1979
05-05-09, 10:22 PM
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/192/superman64.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superman64.jpg)

My local Play N Trade had this in their N64 for people to play when I went in today. My nephew started to play it, but I told him to stop, calling it one of the worst games of all time.

Would Microsoft's acquisition of Rare be considered a blunder? I would like to think that since what Rare has produced since being bought versus what they produced before would show that the quality output has gone south.

PopcornTreeCt
05-05-09, 11:07 PM
Any FPS game that doesn't automatically refill your health. I'm too spoiled by great games that do it.

fmian
05-06-09, 06:23 AM
What about...

- Sixaxis controller being talked up before release, get put on the shelves for quite some time, then pulled off the market. The first game to use it extensively(Lair) was utter rubbish. Also, the non-removable recharchable battery gives the controllers a shelf life of about 3 years, after which the user will have to pay up to have the battery replaced. Oh, and the lack of charging cable with new controllers.

- Backwards compatibility feature between different versions of the PS3. This feature was pushed big time pre release saying the PS3 would be 100% backwards compatible, while the Xbox 360 was not. Included in hardware for the initial US release, but only in software for some other releases around the world. Then it was completely dropped all together (Here in Australia anyway) cause Sony wants us to buy the games all over again as DLC even if we already own a copy.

- PS3 without HD cables. The PS3 was touted as a HD device, with HD games and HD Blu-Ray movies, and HD menus and HD photos and HD music visualisations which would all look cool on your Sony HD TV. Except that it doesn't come with HD cables in the box, and it's just not made all that clear on the box for the average consumer whether you need one or not. At least include the component cables.

Don't wanna sound like I'm flaming the PS3 or something, just some recent things I've noticed since I work in retail and sell consoles.
Sony Computer Entertainment has started acting like a big greedy corporation ever since they figured the Xbox 360 would be a major competitor for them. They didn't seem as irrational when the PS2 was #1.

stingermck
05-06-09, 09:02 AM
This list sucks, but at least the pics posted are great

stingermck
05-06-09, 09:03 AM
This list sucks, but at least the pics posted are great

RichC2
05-06-09, 09:36 AM
Don't wanna sound like I'm flaming the PS3 or something, just some recent things I've noticed since I work in retail and sell consoles.
Sony Computer Entertainment has started acting like a big greedy corporation ever since they figured the Xbox 360 would be a major competitor for them. They didn't seem as irrational when the PS2 was #1.

To counter balance, you could have mentioned one of the xbox360's major flubs this gen, including but not limited to: THE RED RING OF OMFG DEATH!!@#!, $100 20 gb harddrives, $100 usb wifi adapters. (I heart my 360 and use it way more than my PS3, but there are some obvious deficencies there. That said, yeah, Live still rocks and there are a dozen workarounds to both the hdd and wifi issues. But still, Red Ring? Microsoft, what the hell. Only they could find a way to port the BSOD to standalone hardware.)

Mikael79
05-06-09, 10:00 AM
8. Hormone Based Gaming
With the advance of 3D graphics, some dolts in a board room looked at the demographics and figured that guys would go gaga over video games featuring hot babes and not much else. The commercial for Dead or Alive Volleyball is still remembered as an embarrassment to the industry. And everyone just wants to forget The Guy Game ever existed.

I go gaga over video games featuring hot babes and not much else. I'm a straight male, what else do you expect?

edstein
05-06-09, 10:01 AM
To counter balance, you could have mentioned one of the xbox360's major flubs this gen, including but not limited to: THE RED RING OF OMFG DEATH!!@#!, $100 20 gb harddrives, $100 usb wifi adapters. (I heart my 360 and use it way more than my PS3, but there are some obvious deficencies there. That said, yeah, Live still rocks and there are a dozen workarounds to both the hdd and wifi issues. But still, Red Ring? Microsoft, what the hell. Only they could find a way to port the BSOD to standalone hardware.)

:up: :up:

Raul3
05-06-09, 11:31 AM
To counter balance, you could have mentioned one of the xbox360's major flubs this gen, including but not limited to: THE RED RING OF OMFG DEATH!!@#!, $100 20 gb harddrives, $100 usb wifi adapters. (I heart my 360 and use it way more than my PS3, but there are some obvious deficencies there. That said, yeah, Live still rocks and there are a dozen workarounds to both the hdd and wifi issues. But still, Red Ring? Microsoft, what the hell. Only they could find a way to port the BSOD to standalone hardware.)

RROD yes, the other two? I don't think so. They are things we don't like but Microsoft didn't blunder there. I'm sure they are having a really good profit.
Rare has been mentioned. Maybe, still in the air, NXE and specially avatars.

mh4268
05-06-09, 11:38 AM
Didn't Atari have the chance to bring the NES to America and passed? That would have to be considered.

kakihara1
05-06-09, 01:18 PM
Or how about Atari screwing up the deal to distribute the NES outside of Japan?

Didn't Atari have the chance to bring the NES to America and passed? That would have to be considered.

word

Rockmjd23
05-06-09, 01:21 PM
Most of Atari's decisions from around 1981-present can be considered a giant blunder ;)

Rex Power Colt-Robot Man
05-14-09, 11:29 PM
Aside from picking up Ghostbusters and Riddick that is.

fmian
05-15-09, 05:48 AM
To counter balance, you could have mentioned one of the xbox360's major flubs this gen, including but not limited to: THE RED RING OF OMFG DEATH!!@#!, $100 20 gb harddrives, $100 usb wifi adapters. (I heart my 360 and use it way more than my PS3, but there are some obvious deficencies there. That said, yeah, Live still rocks and there are a dozen workarounds to both the hdd and wifi issues. But still, Red Ring? Microsoft, what the hell. Only they could find a way to port the BSOD to standalone hardware.)

Yeah, the RROD thing is pretty bad. Was that a known unresolved issue before release for the 360? Or was it discovered later? If it was a quality control issue I'm willing to call that something that was overlooked, as opposed to a bad design/strategy decision.
But yeah, I've replaced my 360 twice and might have to do it again cause it's too loud.

Tuan Jim
05-15-09, 06:11 AM
Apparently the OP thinks that the only way to purchase DLC is with a credit card....?

I'm disappointed the NeoGeo Pocket Color didn't take off as well here as in Asia - perfect joystick for fighting games (and such great games they were....) compared to the Gameboy (at the time - haven't tried anything after the Advance SP). Never even seen a WonderSwan (sp?) but apparently those had their moment as well.