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superdeluxe
04-30-09, 06:51 PM
I need some assistance, in terms of links to good starting out sites for those that are new to poker.

My brother's bachelor weekend is coming up, and I don't want to be completely schooled in pokwer, I think we are playing something called Texas Stud

Deftones
04-30-09, 07:04 PM
texas hold 'em? you can go to wizard of odds to learn the rules. as for practice, just download pokerstars or fulltilt and play for free with fake money. while it won't give you the best representation of a real game, since people bet differently, it will show you how to play.

mgbfan
05-01-09, 01:13 AM
Yeah, find a free/play money game somewhere (I think Yahoo might even have something) and at least you'll get the mechanics of the game down. It's likey Texas Holdem or 7 Card Stud. To my knowledge, Texas Stud does not exist (maybe I should invent it).

Don't make the mistake of believing that play money is real poker and that results at a play money table are meaningful. It's only poker if there's money on the table. Otherwise, it's just bingo.

But at least you'll have the basics of what you do and when down. Play that for awhile and if you want to prepare more, look online for a basic strategy guide. Don't overwhelm yourself, and expect to lose money. If you're wrong and you win, great. But ... you get the idea.

SoSpacey
05-01-09, 03:27 PM
Just don't play with them or you will be donating money.

Hold 'em is an easy game to learn the rules but it is a very difficult game to really understand.

Your best bet is to learn the rules and then DVR as many WSOP, High Stakes Poker and WPT television shows and listen to what goes on.

mgbfan
05-02-09, 01:18 AM
Could not disagree more. Don't try to learn poker by watching WSOP. For many reasons, the most important being that they only show a select few of the hands played, and usually the atypical ones.

People learning from watching the WPT and the WSOP are what made 2003-2005 the Golden Age of Online Poker. Damn fools watched poker on TV and tried to mimick what they saw. And they gave away their money like it was going out of style.

Worst thing you could do.

goodwill
05-02-09, 08:44 PM
Could not disagree more. Don't try to learn poker by watching WSOP. For many reasons, the most important being that they only show a select few of the hands played, and usually the atypical ones.

People learning from watching the WPT and the WSOP are what made 2003-2005 the Golden Age of Online Poker. Damn fools watched poker on TV and tried to mimick what they saw. And they gave away their money like it was going out of style.

Worst thing you could do.


He called it texas stud.. I don't think he's playing for a bracelet here... He's just looking to learn the game for his brother's party. He's not planning to join the tournament circuit. I think watching it on tv will be the easiest/quickest way to grasp how to play.

Then practice at play money tables on Stars or FT and you'll be good to go...

Jeremy517
05-03-09, 03:30 AM
Your best bet is to learn the rules and then DVR as many WSOP, High Stakes Poker and WPT television shows and listen to what goes on.

That is really bad advice.

Deftones
05-03-09, 10:42 AM
yeah, i'l have to agree, somewhat. watch those shows on how to learn protocol on how to bet, but not what cards to play.

mgbfan
05-04-09, 02:03 AM
He called it texas stud.. I don't think he's playing for a bracelet here... He's just looking to learn the game for his brother's party. He's not planning to join the tournament circuit.
Was there some reason you believed I was incapable of reading all of that when he typed it?

I think watching it on tv will be the easiest/quickest way to grasp how to play.
And as I said, I think that's terrible advice. There may be a few worse ways to learn the game, but not many.

Brack
05-06-09, 02:08 AM
games.com has a bunch of different poker games. texas hold 'em is fun.

I don't get the idea of ignoring poker on tv. I think it's a given that the guys playing are on a whole different level, but you can still learn something.

El Scorcho
05-06-09, 01:24 PM
games.com has a bunch of different poker games. texas hold 'em is fun.

I don't get the idea of ignoring poker on tv. I think it's a given that the guys playing are on a whole different level, but you can still learn something.

using poker on tv as a tool to help first-timers play poker in their home games is like trying to teach a kid to shoot with a tommy gun when he can't even use a slingshot properly

Brack
05-06-09, 01:26 PM
using poker on tv as a tool to help first-timers play poker in their home games is like trying to teach a kid to shoot with a tommy gun when he can't even use a slingshot properly

I never said to do that.

El Scorcho
05-06-09, 01:38 PM
i was mostly replying to the entire thread, I jsut happened to hit the quote button instead

Brack
05-06-09, 01:52 PM
^^ werd.

SoSpacey
05-06-09, 02:16 PM
I am not saying to try and play like a pro. But watching it on TV will give you some insight on betting, hand values, etc that you will have a tough time learning quickly at home. You will also here the announcers talking about why guys made bets they did and why they made calls they did. If you pay attention but also realize these guys play about 10% of the hands they are dealt, it will give you some insight.

Or scrap everything and pick up Daniel Negraneu's newest book and only read his section. Or pick up "The Little Green Book" on Amazon. Or someone else can recommend you another book that's easy reading.

Just don't pick up "Super System".

Jeremy517
05-06-09, 02:37 PM
I am not saying to try and play like a pro. But watching it on TV will give you some insight on betting, hand values, etc that you will have a tough time learning quickly at home. You will also here the announcers talking about why guys made bets they did and why they made calls they did. If you pay attention but also realize these guys play about 10% of the hands they are dealt, it will give you some insight.

Most televised poker is all-in-preflop-shovefests. You won't learn anything there.

Even if you find something that shows a lot of post-flop play, it still is not appropriate because:

They're far more deep stacked than he'll be at his home game
The moves he'd see pros make aren't right to make at a typical home game
Even if it was the appropriate places for moves like that, he'd be likely to mis-apply them.


Also :lol: at you saying they only play 10% of hands on TV, but suggesting that he watch HSP.

El Scorcho
05-06-09, 03:32 PM
the best advice you can give a novice is to tell him that despite what you see on TV and in movies, few people really bluff all that often.

My novice friends always think that we're all bluffing them so they'll call off their stacks with 33 on a QKJ92 board. Time and time again.

Brack
05-06-09, 03:39 PM
the best advice you can give a novice is to tell him that despite what you see on TV and in movies, few people really bluff all that often.

My novice friends always think that we're all bluffing them so they'll call off their stacks with 33 on a QKJ92 board. Time and time again.

too funny.

superdeluxe
05-07-09, 05:07 PM
wow thanks everyone, I will try to process this and take the hints/ideas.

I played for about 2 hours this weekend with play money, just to get a feel. I noticed my pots were getting smaller..and the person with the bigger pot was 'bullying' me by making huge raises because they could afford to take taht risk.