Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
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Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
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Wasn't expecting this to be on the par of the last two and I certainly infer that from the synopsis. I have faith this won't retcon too much
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LOL! That is a lousy synopsis! Oh well, I'm really expecting most the shows this season to be good since they have a definite end date. ...we'll see...
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Very excited about this episode after that preview. "I remember everything"...we'll see. Actually I'm just as excited every week who am I kidding?
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Holy moly, that was a lot of exposition in one episode. Poor Sam, he probably had more dialogue in this episode than his entire run on this show.
Wait till Ellen and Boomer find out about Saul and Six's baby. Someone is going to want to "jump" away ASAP.
Wait till Ellen and Boomer find out about Saul and Six's baby. Someone is going to want to "jump" away ASAP.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
I've loved the return of BSG. The first two eps didn't rush pass emotions to get to the next fight, and when that fight came it was bad-ass on the level we expect from the show, but this was like the scene with the Architect in Matrix Reloaded stretched out over 44 minutes. I actually tuned out at the end because it was just too much. I don't know what happened in the last three minutes even though I was staring right at the screen.
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OUCH!! My brain hurts from taking all of that information in.
I noticed that my theory from last week about the ship is getting some more legitimacy.
Too much to discuss about the episode right now, I think I have to watch it again. But how did you guys like the opening? I had to rewind it because I wasn't paying full attention at first.
I noticed that my theory from last week about the ship is getting some more legitimacy.
Too much to discuss about the episode right now, I think I have to watch it again. But how did you guys like the opening? I had to rewind it because I wasn't paying full attention at first.
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We have ALOT to talk about that was discussed IN THIS episode so Im not Spoilering anything...
So...the final five...aren't Cylons? They are humans who perfected cloning/mind transference...hence Cylons/Resurrection?
So...the final five...aren't Cylons? They are humans who perfected cloning/mind transference...hence Cylons/Resurrection?
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Having got in to BSG at the mid/end-point of Season 3, I can't say for certain what is retconned, but sound like the origin is:
But if that's the case then...
Great episode though, as far as having to think and second-guess the storyline.
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But if that's the case then...
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Great episode though, as far as having to think and second-guess the storyline.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
How so? They didn't really change any previously established facts within the show. It was just lots of exposition to fill in what we didn't know.
It was very exposition-heavy, but damn, I loved every minute of it. I was geeking out like CRAZY.
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It was very exposition-heavy, but damn, I loved every minute of it. I was geeking out like CRAZY.
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It actually sort of fits... there's the missing number seven, "twelve models" - only twelve if one of them is no longer active, and it sort of makes sense for there to be thirteen Cylons (with thirteen colonies, one of them missing).
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
No they are cylons that created resurrection. They did away with it because the figured out how to reproduce like humans. However, they brought it back when their classic metal versions nuked their planet. They used the resurrection system to escape where they met the 12 colonies cylons. The 5 talked them into ending the war in exchange for a resurrection ship. During the 40 odd years of peace the 5 created the fleshy versions of cylons that were made in their own image.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
I am so fraking confused about who built whom. I need a flow chart to understand what all that explanation was in this episode.
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As far as I can make of Sam's ramblings --
It all started on Kobol.
The Kobol humans built Cylons to use as robotic servants. Then there was some kind of catastrophe on Kobol (natural? Cylon uprising?) and Kobol was abandoned. Thirteen colonies were founded, twelve with humans, and one with Cylons on a place they called "Earth." (I'm still not convinced that the "Earth" Starbuck led them to is/was out Earth.)
On Earth, the Cylons "evolved" to become more human-like, and there was some kind of war on Earth that wiped them all out. In the meantime, the twelve colonies started making Cylons again.
Back on Earth, there were five skinjobs (Ellen, Saul, Tori, Galen, and Sam) who saw the war coming and developed resurrection technology. After the war, they left Earth at sublight speeds to return to the twelve colonies to warn them not to start making Cylons again because they will eventually rise up against their masters.
They didn't get there in time, and arrived in the middle of the human-Cylon civil war.
In order to end the war, the "final five" gave the Cylons resurrection technology and helped them create "skinjobs." (We had already seen the Cylons attempting to make themselves appear human in Razor.)
One of the skinjob models, John Cavil, resented his human form and erased the memories of the final five and sent them to live as humans among the colonials in order to make them suffer.
I'm assuming that the upcoming TV movie, "The Plan," will flesh this backstory out in detail.
It all started on Kobol.
The Kobol humans built Cylons to use as robotic servants. Then there was some kind of catastrophe on Kobol (natural? Cylon uprising?) and Kobol was abandoned. Thirteen colonies were founded, twelve with humans, and one with Cylons on a place they called "Earth." (I'm still not convinced that the "Earth" Starbuck led them to is/was out Earth.)
On Earth, the Cylons "evolved" to become more human-like, and there was some kind of war on Earth that wiped them all out. In the meantime, the twelve colonies started making Cylons again.
Back on Earth, there were five skinjobs (Ellen, Saul, Tori, Galen, and Sam) who saw the war coming and developed resurrection technology. After the war, they left Earth at sublight speeds to return to the twelve colonies to warn them not to start making Cylons again because they will eventually rise up against their masters.
They didn't get there in time, and arrived in the middle of the human-Cylon civil war.
In order to end the war, the "final five" gave the Cylons resurrection technology and helped them create "skinjobs." (We had already seen the Cylons attempting to make themselves appear human in Razor.)
One of the skinjob models, John Cavil, resented his human form and erased the memories of the final five and sent them to live as humans among the colonials in order to make them suffer.
I'm assuming that the upcoming TV movie, "The Plan," will flesh this backstory out in detail.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
As far as I can make of Sam's ramblings --
It all started on Kobol.
The Kobol humans built Cylons to use as robotic servants. Then there was some kind of catastrophe on Kobol (natural? Cylon uprising?) and Kobol was abandoned. Thirteen colonies were founded, twelve with humans, and one with Cylons on a place they called "Earth." (I'm still not convinced that the "Earth" Starbuck led them to is/was out Earth.)
On Earth, the Cylons "evolved" to become more human-like, and there was some kind of war on Earth that wiped them all out. In the meantime, the twelve colonies started making Cylons again.
Back on Earth, there were five skinjobs (Ellen, Saul, Tori, Galen, and Sam) who saw the war coming and developed resurrection technology. After the war, they left Earth at sublight speeds to return to the twelve colonies to warn them not to start making Cylons again because they will eventually rise up against their masters.
They didn't get there in time, and arrived in the middle of the human-Cylon civil war.
In order to end the war, the "final five" gave the Cylons resurrection technology and helped them create "skinjobs." (We had already seen the Cylons attempting to make themselves appear human in Razor.)
One of the skinjob models, John Cavil, resented his human form and erased the memories of the final five and sent them to live as humans among the colonials in order to make them suffer.
I'm assuming that the upcoming TV movie, "The Plan," will flesh this backstory out in detail.
It all started on Kobol.
The Kobol humans built Cylons to use as robotic servants. Then there was some kind of catastrophe on Kobol (natural? Cylon uprising?) and Kobol was abandoned. Thirteen colonies were founded, twelve with humans, and one with Cylons on a place they called "Earth." (I'm still not convinced that the "Earth" Starbuck led them to is/was out Earth.)
On Earth, the Cylons "evolved" to become more human-like, and there was some kind of war on Earth that wiped them all out. In the meantime, the twelve colonies started making Cylons again.
Back on Earth, there were five skinjobs (Ellen, Saul, Tori, Galen, and Sam) who saw the war coming and developed resurrection technology. After the war, they left Earth at sublight speeds to return to the twelve colonies to warn them not to start making Cylons again because they will eventually rise up against their masters.
They didn't get there in time, and arrived in the middle of the human-Cylon civil war.
In order to end the war, the "final five" gave the Cylons resurrection technology and helped them create "skinjobs." (We had already seen the Cylons attempting to make themselves appear human in Razor.)
One of the skinjob models, John Cavil, resented his human form and erased the memories of the final five and sent them to live as humans among the colonials in order to make them suffer.
I'm assuming that the upcoming TV movie, "The Plan," will flesh this backstory out in detail.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
-Ellen's been on the Basestar since the liberation of New Caprica.
-Boomer knew about Ellen when the Cylon Civil War began.
-There's a brain surgeon in the fleet. Remember when Doc Cottle was the only doctor for the entire fleet? Now we've seen two additional MDs.
-It was all Cavil's dastardly plan for Anders to become a resistance leader, and Tigh to be the XO of the one surviving Battlestar, etc.
-Tigh never served in the Cylon War.
Only the last one had the least bit of set-up, and even that was laid out after Moore decided to make teh Final Five fleet members.
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Re: Battlestar Galactica -- "No Exit" -- 2/13/2009
Ellen not being on the basestar since the liberation of New Caprica was an established fact within the show?
As far as the surgeon goes, Cottle could have trained someone offscreen during the last year. It's possible!
As far as the surgeon goes, Cottle could have trained someone offscreen during the last year. It's possible!