GatorDeb

Here are three examples:

1. People being proud that they don't listen to "popular" music (in the Grammy Nominees thread some poster(s) said they were proud they hadn't heard any of the best album nominees).

2. People looking down to people who listen to certain music. I.e. someone laughed at me because I had Paris Hilton's "Stars Are Blind" (the song, not the album) in my iPod and there was a thread here about her second album and people laughing at anyone who thought she was any good.

3. The Coldplay suit thread.

Why is it wrong to like Paris, Britney, etc.? Music is subjective and there are all kind of tastes. Why isn't liking Paris as valid as liking The Felice Brothers? It's just different people liking different sounds.

Sanjuro37

It's snobbery.


*dances out of thread listening to that Devin Townsend track you're all to stupid to love*

Lastyear

There are certain standards. Remember Paris Hilton can't even sing. Her voice is electronically processed. There is a lack of outlets for a lot of talented people nowadays and it offends a lot a people that empty shallow corporate schlock rules the airwaves right now. So you can like Paris and Britney all you want but no ones ever going to take their music seriously.

GatorDeb

Well Britney does have a good voice and she's a talented dancer. If she toned down the sex and studio manipulation of her voice, she'd gain more status.

I'm not necessarily saying Paris Hilton can sing without studio manipulation or that she's talented, but the end product was pleasing to my ears.

Also I think that nowadays there are more outlets than ever before, with MySpace and YouTube. Look at Lilly Allen. Put a song on YouTube, people liked it, signed a record deal. All you need is a camcorder and a PC.

Groucho

This is true, but there is still such a thing as bad taste.

Tarantino

I have a vast music taste, but I don't care what others think when they check out my iPod.

It might be the only iPod you'll ever pick up with Eric Clapton, Belle & Sebastian, Lil' Wayne, Ice Cube, Britney Spears, Fall Out Boy, and Paul McCartney/Wings on it...but that doesn't really make a difference to me.

*no Satriani on there though...

= J

Dr_Evil

As I've come to realize, there's always going to be someone who's a bigger music snob than you. This is especially true with the reduced barriers to hearing new music online. I listen to what I think is good, I criticize what I think is bad, and I'm happy with that.

Mr. Salty

If she toned down the studio manipulation of her voice, she may very well be unlistenable. That's why her voice is manipulated.

I'm sure that Lily Allen's father being a wealthy, successful figure in show business had nothing to do with her success.

starseed1981

See Pitchfork.com

This goes back to an endless debate I've been having with friends for the past 5 years; just because its indie and you can't find it in Best Buy doesn't mean its good.

Giles

and in the same vein, NME's writers are uber-snobs

LiquidSky

GatorDeb;9120803:"Well Britney does have a good voice."

I have to disagree with you Deb. She has what I call a little girl's baby voice and it's so heavily processed in the stuido that I wonder what she would sound like live with just an accoustic guitar backup.

Michael Corvin

[QUOTE=LiquidSky;9121253][QUOTE=GatorDeb;9120803]Well Britney does have a good voice.[shudder]

wendersfan

It's not "wrong' to like acts like the ones you mention. Just don't kid yourself about why you like them.

The Bus

That's "variety"?

The Bus

Best Buy sells a lot of stuff.

The Bus

Pitchforkmedia.com

MOST READ RECORD REVIEWS

Portishead: Third
M83: Saturdays=Youth
Weezer: Weezer (The Red Album)
Coldplay: Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends
Scarlett Johansson: Anywhere I Lay My Head
Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III
Death Cab for Cutie: Narrow Stairs
Fleet Foxes: Fleet Foxes
No Age: Nouns
Cut Copy: In Ghost Colours

Almost all of those are available at Best Buy. Hell, I bought the MGMT CD at Wal-Mart.

starseed1981

The Best Buy statement is just a literal inference to main stream music being available everywhere as opposed to a vast majority of what the site favors (that being indie music "mostly" available at indie record shops). I think Best Buy carriers pretty much everything in that list, however I'm just referencing Pitchfork as a general example of music snobism. I don't think many people will argue with that.

dick_grayson

most people have bad taste in music in general (popular or not)

spainlinx0

So why does someone like that type of music?

Groucho

"It's got a beat and I can dance to it."

dick_grayson

simple and doesn't require much thought? why is Green Day so popular?

spainlinx0

So would you say it is easy to create that type of music, or just to listen to it? Do you think that there is no talent involved in creating a catchy song that becomes popular?

dick_grayson

it certainly does take talent to write a catchy song. but we're talking art here. it's the same as if you were to compare Thomas Kinkade to Rene Magritte

slop101

I believe that what I'm into is better than whatever you are into. It doesn't matter what you are into. If you are into it and I'm not, you must be some sort of uncultured boar.

You know that thing you're into now? I was into it way before you. In fact, I can't believe you still like that thing. I've moved on.

Whatever I say and do is exactly what should be said and done. My feelings toward a subject have no comparisons nor room for debate.

Giantrobo

@ slop101