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GoVegan
12-09-08, 02:32 PM
Isn't that just talking about the new controllers in general compared to the previous generation? The only thing different about the red is that it's red. Or am I mistaken?

edit: Reading the reviews on Amazon, they say it's the same exact controller, just in red with black accents. Costs more because of the play&charge included.Correct. It was initially rumored to have the improved d-pad, but that didn't happen.

The Bus
12-09-08, 03:48 PM
The best XBLA games:

Catan
Lumines Live
Pacman: CE
Catan
Geometry Wars 2
Pacman: CE

Michael Corvin
12-09-08, 03:52 PM
I think Pac-Man deserves to be listed three times.

superfro
12-09-08, 03:57 PM
I haven't played the sequel, but from every review/podcast I've read/heard, just get the sequel. It has everything the original has with a more friendly user interface, new pinatas and such. Of course the downside is price. I'm sure you can find the original for about $10, while the other one just came out a couple months ago.

The 2nd one is much more user friendly, but either one will keep you plenty busy for hours upon hours. Also, the 2nd one was priced $40 out of the gate, so it may be even a bit cheaper nowadays if you dig around. (Which while more than the first one, at least it's not a $50 stretch or anything.)

TLwizard
12-09-08, 07:36 PM
Thanks for all the XBLA suggestions. I'll download all those demos. I did try the Castle Crashers demo the other night and enjoyed that for what it was.

Quick question... is everything tied to the harddrive? I think I'm gonna have to exchange my unit but in the meantime I wanted to add some points to my account and download a game or two. Are those tied to the console (is anything tied to the console) or to the HD?

Mok
12-09-08, 07:51 PM
There tied to your gamer tag and console not the harddrive.

TLwizard
12-09-08, 08:15 PM
There tied to your gamer tag and console not the harddrive.So I shouldn't download any games, add any points, or start my Xbox Live Gold subscription if I have to exchange my unit?

Liver&Onions
12-09-08, 08:17 PM
So I shouldn't download any games, add any points, or start my Xbox Live Gold subscription if I have to exchange my unit?

There's a tool that can allow you to redownload everything if you want - it's a slight PITA - but nothing too horrible.

TLwizard
12-09-08, 08:22 PM
There's a tool that can allow you to redownload everything if you want - it's a slight PITA - but nothing too horrible.Is it enough of a pain that I should just wait? And is it like the Playstation Network where you can only download a certain number of times before having to buy again?

DVDChris
12-09-08, 08:30 PM
You can use the content management tool once a year. However you can redownload all your content whenever you want I believe.

pinata242
12-09-08, 08:35 PM
I'm not exactly sure why you're talking about exchanging your unit as it sounds like you just got it, but as long as you're signed into XBL it won't matter what you bought the game/content on.

Long story short, I bought a 360 last year, bought 4 or 5 games (Uno, Pac-Man: CE, Castlevania, etc). Then I exchanged it a week or so later for one the "new" HDMI units that just came out. As long as my account is signed into XBL, anybody can play anything on my 360. If I'm not signed in, those 4 or 5 games cannot be played because they were purchased by me (not signed in) on a different console.

I could use the DRM transfer tool to fix that, but it's not enough of a problem to justify since you can only do it once per year and there's always a chance my unit will die.

Now, if you aren't going to be online constantly, then sure you've got a lot to think about.

Shagrath
12-09-08, 08:36 PM
Maybe whoever makes this thread should stick the information about the DRM tool in the OP?

Then maybe the thread wouldn't be crudded up with stupid questions about the same thing over and over again.

Mr. Music
12-09-08, 08:43 PM
-ohbfrank-

TLwizard
12-09-08, 08:46 PM
I'm not exactly sure why you're talking about exchanging your unit as it sounds like you just got it, but as long as you're signed into XBL it won't matter what you bought the game/content on. My unit was packed very poorly and when I opened it up the game case was shattered, game discs rolling around, and it sounds like something is loose on the inside of the Xbox itself. Plus the batteries were DOA. While it's working right now, I have my concerns about whether or not the inside of the Xbox looks like my game case.

But thanks for your input. Since it'll only be a few days, I guess, I'll just wait.


Then maybe the thread wouldn't be crudded up with stupid questions about the same thing over and over again.I'm glad I'm here, too!

PopcornTreeCt
12-09-08, 09:11 PM
Maybe whoever makes this thread should stick the information about the DRM tool in the OP?

Then maybe the thread wouldn't be crudded up with stupid questions about the same thing over and over again.

Shh... it's a sticky thread not a useful thread.

fumanstan
12-09-08, 09:14 PM
I don't think that many people read the first post of a thread to find the answers to their questions anyway.

Michael Corvin
12-09-08, 10:05 PM
I don't think that many people read the first post of a thread to find the answers to their questions anyway.

No, plus everyone around here is usually helpful to the new console owners and don't mind answering a thing or two more than once... unless the answer is easily found via google. :lol:

Spicollidriver1
12-09-08, 10:11 PM
I'm not exactly sure why you're talking about exchanging your unit as it sounds like you just got it, but as long as you're signed into XBL it won't matter what you bought the game/content on.

Long story short, I bought a 360 last year, bought 4 or 5 games (Uno, Pac-Man: CE, Castlevania, etc). Then I exchanged it a week or so later for one the "new" HDMI units that just came out. As long as my account is signed into XBL, anybody can play anything on my 360. If I'm not signed in, those 4 or 5 games cannot be played because they were purchased by me (not signed in) on a different console.

I could use the DRM transfer tool to fix that, but it's not enough of a problem to justify since you can only do it once per year and there's always a chance my unit will die.

Now, if you aren't going to be online constantly, then sure you've got a lot to think about.
I know that it says only once but I personally have used it twice this year

Shagrath
12-09-08, 10:19 PM
No, plus everyone around here is usually helpful to the new console owners and don't mind answering a thing or two more than once... unless the answer is easily found via google. :lol:
That is what I was eluding to. Was gonna throw a couple f-bombs in there, but figured that wouldn't be PC.

Shagrath
12-09-08, 10:20 PM
I don't think that many people read the first post of a thread to find the answers to their questions anyway.
If the OP had any information in it, it might be useful. My opinion is that OP's should essentially contain a FAQ on the topic where applicable.

Liver&Onions
12-10-08, 12:08 AM
If the OP had any information in it, it might be useful. My opinion is that OP's should essentially contain a FAQ on the topic where applicable.

if you want to take this over, by all means. Do it.

Liver&Onions
12-10-08, 12:09 AM
No, plus everyone around here is usually helpful to the new console owners and don't mind answering a thing or two more than once... unless the answer is easily found via google. :lol:

Or, it's Deb asking ;)

mrpayroll
12-10-08, 12:13 AM
If the OP had any information in it, it might be useful. My opinion is that OP's should essentially contain a FAQ on the topic where applicable.

if you want to take this over, by all means. Do it.

Shagrath, now see what you've gone and done, you've hurt Liver&Onions feelings! :(

Chris

Liver&Onions
12-10-08, 12:14 AM
Is it enough of a pain that I should just wait? And is it like the Playstation Network where you can only download a certain number of times before having to buy again?

Not that big of a deal, but depends on how much shit you have bought and need to transfer licenses to. In my case, my online queue filled up but wasn't that bad.

Liver&Onions
12-10-08, 12:15 AM
Shagrath, now see what you've gone and done, you've hurt Liver&Onions feelings! :(

Chris

If someone wants to be critical about something and wants some specific items, then they can do it. As I've said many times, I do this on a volunteer basis in my spare time

mrpayroll
12-10-08, 12:18 AM
If someone wants to be critical about something and wants some specific items, then they can do it. As I've said many times, I do this on a volunteer basis in my spare time

Please don't leeeeavvve!

Thanks alot Shagrath!

Chris

fumanstan
12-10-08, 12:19 AM
No, plus everyone around here is usually helpful to the new console owners and don't mind answering a thing or two more than once... unless the answer is easily found via google. :lol:

Well everything can be found easily via google, as far as I'm concerned. :)

Still, like you said no one really minds answering the simple questions and personally it always seems people ask regardless of whether you try and present info in a specific manner. Hell, there's a lot of outdated FAQ's and stickies littered across this forum which shows how often people really refer back to them.

And really, I don't think any particular question has come up so often that they're annoying to see. At least I certainly haven't been annoyed.

Krayzie
12-10-08, 07:57 AM
My unit was packed very poorly and when I opened it up the game case was shattered, game discs rolling around, and it sounds like something is loose on the inside of the Xbox itself. Plus the batteries were DOA. While it's working right now, I have my concerns about whether or not the inside of the Xbox looks like my game case.

But thanks for your input. Since it'll only be a few days, I guess, I'll just wait.

I'm glad I'm here, too!

I would have just called cs as soon as I opened the package. They're pretty good at replacing defective items. I bought some items that came smashed and they next day aired me replacements.

Decker
12-10-08, 10:24 AM
Hey, there's a free Premium Theme in the Marketplace today (the first since the NXE upgrade ones, I believe). It's called "Winter Holiday 2008" in the Marketplace and "Holiday 2008" once you download it. The friend avatars are in front of a ski lodge, giant lollipops and a frozen 360. It's cute. :up:

Giantrobo
12-10-08, 10:35 AM
Cool. I like my "Star Trek" premium theme but I'm open to new "freebies". :p

One thing they need to do is figure out a way for the Friends list to load faster. It's not a big deal but it's annoying.

rocketsauce
12-10-08, 10:40 AM
anyone have a link to where i can preload that online?

pinata242
12-10-08, 10:40 AM
This is the link from the marketplace: http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/OfferRedirect.ashx?Id=00000000-0000-4003-803f-0003fffe07c3

But it currently says the content isn't found. Maybe later?

rocketsauce
12-10-08, 10:45 AM
thanks, i tried looking for it but it just gave me links to game themes

Jeremy517
12-10-08, 02:58 PM
For those interested, Anand took apart a new Jasper system, and posted some pics + a technical writeup. http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472

Power consumption, from the article:

<table width="550" align="center" border="1" bordercolor="#dddddd" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"> <tr> <td align="center" bgcolor="#016a96" class="contentwhite"><strong><strong>Xbox 360 Revision</strong></strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#016a96" class="contentwhite"><strong><strong> System Off</strong></strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#016a96" class="contentwhite"><strong><strong>Idle</strong></strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#016a96" class="contentwhite"><strong><strong>Halo 3</strong></strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#016a96" class="contentwhite"><strong><strong>Rockband 2</strong></strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#016a96" class="contentwhite"><strong><strong>Gears of War 2</strong></strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#016a96" class="contentwhite"><strong><strong> BioShock Demo</strong></strong></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left"><strong>Xenon</strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">2.3W<sup></sup></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">155.7W<sup></sup></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">177.8W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">167.7W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">177.1W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">172W<sup></sup></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left"><strong>Falcon</strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">2.8W<sup></sup></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">101.4W<sup></sup></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">121.2W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">112.8W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">121.5W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">115.5W<sup></sup></td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#eeeeee" align="left"><strong>Jasper</strong></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">2.0W<sup></sup></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">93.7W<sup></sup></td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">105.9W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">101.0W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">105.9W</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#f7f7f7">98.1W<sup></sup></td> </tr></table>

Jeremy517
12-10-08, 04:24 PM
Hey, there's a free Premium Theme in the Marketplace today (the first since the NXE upgrade ones, I believe). It's called "Winter Holiday 2008" in the Marketplace and "Holiday 2008" once you download it. The friend avatars are in front of a ski lodge, giant lollipops and a frozen 360. It's cute. :up:

Queue it up (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802fffe07d1)

pinata242
12-10-08, 04:36 PM
Queue it up (http://marketplace.xbox.com/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025841091C)

Hey, what's the big idea, spammer?

Jeremy517
12-10-08, 04:57 PM
Oops wrong one. I meant to give the link to queue the free theme.

TLwizard
12-10-08, 07:35 PM
I've found some conflicting reports through google, but wanted to get some feedback here on this terrible awful grinding noise my Xbox is making. Is this normal for everyone here, should I be concerned?

Some people online seem to say it comes with the territory. Some seem to say it's indicative of bad things to come (discs getting torn up, etc.) If it helps, my Xbox is horizontal.

Thanks to all who have been so kind and generous with their advice.

edstein
12-10-08, 09:51 PM
That's just the hamster wheel. Just wrap the whole thing up in a towel for about an hour to warm up and you'll be good to go.

mrpayroll
12-11-08, 12:21 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/xbox-live-arcade-sales-tripled-since-nxe-says-microsoft

Xbox Live Arcade sales tripled since NXE, says Microsoft

Microsoft's Major Nelson has published statistics on Microsoft's New Xbox Experience, highlighting that sales on XBLA almost tripled the week of the revamped service's launch.

In addition to this, Avatar specific titles, such as A Kingdom for Kelfings, saw the second-best first week sales ever, alongside UNO which saw an increase in sales of 650 per cent in one day upon being updated to include in-game Avatars.

Movie downloads on the console increased 49 per cent and TV episode downloads were also up 30 per cent the week after the NXE launch.

Xbox Live was revealed to have over 14 million members, with the average number of unique visitors climbing each day by 66 per cent over the past year. The global Live service has 45 network and studio partners, including Netflix, offering 30,00 movies, TV episodes and music videos.

Chris

Decker
12-11-08, 12:41 PM
I don't know about that. Sure Avatars helped sell Kingdom For The Keflings, but I always use 360voice.com as a relatively accurate read on XBLA sales and though the single-day peak of 1859 is impressive for an XBLA game, it's no where near the 2536 that Braid saw or the 5244 peak of Castle Crashers.

If anything, I'd expect that any increase in XBLA sales has more to do with SSFIIHD Turbo which had first day numbers of 2782 more than anything to do with the NXE.

The Uno curve (http://360voice.gamerdna.com/game.asp?game=UNO&type=1)is funny -- 434 on 11/18 and 5257 on 11/19. It's been running 550 - 700 per day since.

Michael Corvin
12-11-08, 02:11 PM
Didn't the NXE come out the day after Kingdom as well? Hardly an impressive jump since it's all still first week sales.

pinata242
12-11-08, 02:18 PM
No, NXE hit on a Wednesday, the same day as XBLA games launch.

I admit to launching both Uno and Bomberman to get their avatar updates, but I didn't play them so take those numbers with a grain of salt for actual activity.

Michael Corvin
12-11-08, 02:38 PM
According to Wiki, KfK and NXE came out the same day.

Wait... I read the release wrong... I read it as KfK having a 650% jump in sales but it looks like that was referring to UNO.

Jeremy517
12-11-08, 05:30 PM
There is a glitch that lets you remove non-zero-gamerscore games from your list. The only requirements are that you need to get the game to the second spot of your list (usually by loading the game, meaning you still own it) and you need to a zero-score game in the top spot of the list.

So if you have severe OCD and want to remove some games, check out http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=111020.

Michael Corvin
12-11-08, 05:54 PM
Sweet. I know what I'm doing tonight. :lol:

-------
*edit*

Uh oh. Play with backdoor codes at your own risk. I successfully removed Undertow & Lumines, both of which I only had one achievement in, but when I tried Totemball it reset my Gamerscore to zero. :eek: :mad:

I rebooted and I still had zero Gamerscore. :sad: I let it sit for a few and my GS eventually came up but when I went to look at my achievements it only showed my 5 most recent games and nothing else. If I let it sit, the list very slowly populated itself again.

After the heart attack and cold sweats subsided I decided to tempt fate twice. Screw Totemball, I don't want that blight on my Gamercard. Well it did it again. Zero gamerscore. This time it took a little longer to get it back and a little longer for my achievement list to repopulate.

and Totemball remains... sigh. Totemball wins, I don't have the stones to try it for a third time.

Raul3
12-12-08, 12:48 AM
In my computer you are showing with a zero gamerscore.

;)
*I was going to photoshop it but I'm still tired of doing the charts this morning.

Jeremy517
12-12-08, 01:07 AM
Uh oh. Play with backdoor codes at your own risk. I successfully removed Undertow & Lumines, both of which I only had one achievement in, but when I tried Totemball it reset my Gamerscore to zero. :eek: :mad:

I rebooted and I still had zero Gamerscore. :sad: I let it sit for a few and my GS eventually came up but when I went to look at my achievements it only showed my 5 most recent games and nothing else. If I let it sit, the list very slowly populated itself again.

After the heart attack and cold sweats subsided I decided to tempt fate twice. Screw Totemball, I don't want that blight on my Gamercard. Well it did it again. Zero gamerscore. This time it took a little longer to get it back and a little longer for my achievement list to repopulate.

and Totemball remains... sigh. Totemball wins, I don't have the stones to try it for a third time.

Yeah, there were reports of similar things. Basically it just has to rebuild your info, but is fine after that.

Trevor
12-12-08, 08:56 AM
Oops wrong one. I meant to give the link to queue the free theme.

Sweet, I didn't know we could do that. Just "bought" it and queued it up for the next time I turn on the 360.

PixyJunket
12-12-08, 09:02 AM
Yeah, there were reports of similar things. Basically it just has to rebuild your info, but is fine after that.Does it actually remove the points associated with the removed games?

Michael Corvin
12-12-08, 09:46 AM
Does it actually remove the points associated with the removed games?

Yes. They talked about adding this feature a few updates back. That way people could essentially wipe a game's slate clean and start over fresh. So it seems it's almost built in already just a matter of letting people actually do it legitimately.

pinata242
12-12-08, 09:51 AM
Awesome! I can finally delete FIFA 06... assuming I can get a copy of the disc. Time to call up my swap-shop-manager buddy for a favor ;)

PixyJunket
12-12-08, 10:20 AM
Yes. They talked about adding this feature a few updates back. That way people could essentially wipe a game's slate clean and start over fresh. So it seems it's almost built in already just a matter of letting people actually do it legitimately.Cool. Too bad the ex took Guitar Hero with her when she left me, I guess I'll just have to until it's fully enabled to get that blemish off my card (and Dead or Alive 4 and Ridge Racer 6, haha).

pinata242
12-12-08, 10:27 AM
LIES!

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/1899/undertowliesyu8.jpg

Michael Corvin
12-12-08, 10:33 AM
rotfl

kms_md
12-12-08, 11:30 AM
here (http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/12/10/winter-holiday-theme-free.aspx#comments) is the major nelson page that gives a link to the free theme download. what a pain it was to find this on the xbox site.

lordwow
12-12-08, 11:34 AM
I'm almost ashamed I'm 1 achievement away from 200/200ing Undertow now.

Michael Corvin
12-12-08, 12:15 PM
here (http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/12/10/winter-holiday-theme-free.aspx#comments) is the major nelson page that gives a link to the free theme download. what a pain it was to find this on the xbox site.

I thought it was pretty easy to find. Just scroll up about 20 posts to 4:30pm yesterday.

;)

kms_md
12-12-08, 12:17 PM
I thought it was pretty easy to find. Just scroll up about 20 posts to 4:30pm yesterday.

;)

first link in the thread i clicked took me to meteos. then, seeing i was at the xbox site, i figured i could find the theme relatively easily. so not true ...

mrpayroll
12-12-08, 02:01 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/xbox-360-attach-rate-grows-to-8-1-titles

Xbox 360 attach rate grows to 8.1 titles

The Xbox 360 has a software attach rate of 8.1 titles, according to Microsoft, with third-party games generating more revenue at retail for publishers than the Wii and PlayStation 3 combined.

That's according to Microsoft, in a month where third-party game sales on Xbox 360 topped USD 298 million.

"We've created the optimal line-up of experiences this holiday season for families seeking lasting entertainment value, particularly during rough economic times in the US and abroad," commented Don Mattrick, senior vice president of the Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft.

"We have the largest library of games, TV and movie content and the most expansive and rewarding social experiences. We're confident Xbox 360 will continue to drive record sales around the world this holiday and beyond."

Total software sales for the console in November reached USD 408 million, according to Microsoft.

The Xbox 360 sold 836,000 units in November, with Gears of War 2 one of the best-selling games for the system.

Chris

pinata242
12-12-08, 09:15 PM
Well, I borrowed FIFA to try the removal and no go. Ever time I did it, it was removed from my achievement list but it would just come back. Oh well :(

I wish Microsoft would just enable it for us. I see no problem with "punishing" ourselves by deleting gamerscore.

Decker
12-12-08, 10:19 PM
I see no problem with "punishing" ourselves by deleting gamerscore.

:shrug: I see no problem with having pitiful gamerscore completion percentages.

fumanstan
12-13-08, 02:17 AM
Yeah, I think it's funny that people care enough to try and delete scores.

pinata242
12-13-08, 04:07 AM
Yeah, I think it's funny that people care enough to try and delete scores.

Since I couldn't I decided to just go ahead and get the remaining 950 points. Chalk another completed retail game up :dance:

House
12-13-08, 10:13 AM
Whats up guys. My 360 is saying unplayable disc with everything I put in it. I even put in a cleaner disc and it won't even read that. Is there a way to fix this, or do I need a new xbox?

Will Microsoft send me a new xbox for this, or do I have to have the red ring of death?

shumway
12-13-08, 10:18 AM
Depends on how old it is. There are also ways to force yourself to get RRoD.

House
12-13-08, 10:23 AM
I bought it that March following release.

how do i force it to RRod?

Mr. Cinema
12-13-08, 10:53 AM
I just ordered a Xbox 360 Arcade Bundle. Dell.com was offering free shipping + I found a 20% off coupon, so $169 total. And after researching online, it appears an Arcade version is the best chance at a Jasper. Hopefully that's what I get, but if not, that's fine too. I'll add the HDD later.

Decker
12-13-08, 11:53 AM
how do i force it to RRod?

:shrug: Let your extended warranty expire?
I bought mine from Overstock with a 2 year extended warranty on Black Friday, 2006 (back then MS offered only a 90-day warranty). Sure enough, 24 1/2 months later, it died on me this morning. :sad: At least I finished Gears 2 last night.

They're sending me a coffin. What's the turn-around time running these days?

Oh, and I like how the reps always act like this is the first time they've ever heard of the "three flashing lights" problem.

Michael Corvin
12-13-08, 01:55 PM
Turnaround is under two weeks these days.

Mad Dawg
12-13-08, 02:05 PM
I had a power surge a few minutes ago, and hello RRoD (3 lights, not the 4 sometimes seen after power outages). :( It came back on, but considering all the disc read errors I get, it looks like coffin time. Bah.

RubenR
12-13-08, 04:08 PM
Mine red ;) ringed last Tue, mailed it Wed. Got it back the following Fri(yesterday) but of course, I was at work and missed the delivery :mad2: So I called UPS and am having them deliver it to my place of employment :eyebrow: My system was born in late 06 and had developed many problems. I am -pray-ing that they swapped out mine with an HMDI one.......but since they had it "in repair" for about a week......I am pretty sure they resuscitated my original! Well anyway, :rock: on........

kajs
12-13-08, 11:52 PM
Just got my second rrod last night, should get my coffin monday. Argh.

Jeremy517
12-14-08, 01:55 AM
Just got my second rrod last night, should get my coffin monday. Argh.

Save the box that they ship it back to you in, so you don't have to wait for a coffin when it RRoDs a third time. You can just print a label and ship it off.

Jeremy517
12-14-08, 01:56 AM
I just ordered a Xbox 360 Arcade Bundle. Dell.com was offering free shipping + I found a 20% off coupon, so $169 total. And after researching online, it appears an Arcade version is the best chance at a Jasper. Hopefully that's what I get, but if not, that's fine too. I'll add the HDD later.

I've got a HD for sale, if you are interested.

Michael Corvin
12-15-08, 01:11 AM
Yeah, I think it's funny that people care enough to try and delete scores.

Why not?

Anyway it looks like MS already fixed the glitch. I managed to delete Sneak King but it reappears after about 30 seconds. It looks like that those that did get deleted stayed off my profile though. Should have tried it again earlier in the week.

House
12-15-08, 12:31 PM
:shrug: Let your extended warranty expire?
I bought mine from Overstock with a 2 year extended warranty on Black Friday, 2006 (back then MS offered only a 90-day warranty). Sure enough, 24 1/2 months later, it died on me this morning. :sad: At least I finished Gears 2 last night.

They're sending me a coffin. What's the turn-around time running these days?

Oh, and I like how the reps always act like this is the first time they've ever heard of the "three flashing lights" problem.


I didn't get an extended warranty. If I send it in saying I have RROD will they just send it back since it's my drive and not the rings?

Decker
12-15-08, 12:58 PM
I didn't get an extended warranty. If I send it in saying I have RROD will they just send it back since it's my drive and not the rings?
If it's the drive, then it's not covered. Don't know if they send it back or if they bill you. It might just be worth getting a new Arcade unit for $199 and swapping in your old HDD rather than paying for a repair job from MS.

PixyJunket
12-15-08, 01:00 PM
Why not?

Anyway it looks like MS already fixed the glitch. I managed to delete Sneak King but it reappears after about 30 seconds. It looks like that those that did get deleted stayed off my profile though. Should have tried it again earlier in the week.Dammit! Dead or Alive and Ridge Racer will forever haunt my card.

Oh well, I'm pretty sure this is a sign it'll be a full feature eventually.

fumanstan
12-15-08, 01:26 PM
Why not?

Anyway it looks like MS already fixed the glitch. I managed to delete Sneak King but it reappears after about 30 seconds. It looks like that those that did get deleted stayed off my profile though. Should have tried it again earlier in the week.

Why? :shrug:

I guess I think think it's silly to be anal enough to want to remove games. I understand removing demos and stuff that were there before, just not games you really played. Not that i'm surprised people want to.

Jeremy517
12-15-08, 01:32 PM
I guess I think think it's silly to be anal enough to want to remove games.

It is even sillier to care about whether or not other people remove scores from their gamercard.

nemein
12-15-08, 01:51 PM
I suspect the answer is no, but is there any way to combine profiles? I created one when I first got the machine. I created a second profile that I used for Live. It's no big deal but I was wondering if I can merge the first into the second?

fumanstan
12-15-08, 01:54 PM
It is even sillier to care about whether or not other people remove scores from their gamercard.

That's a stupid comment. The topic came up so I gave my opinion. It's not like I'm monitoring people's gamerscores to see if points disappear or go down. You might as well go around to every topic of discussion and ask why people care. :rolleyes:

It's even more silly to assume that I care about whether or not other people remove scores from their gamercard.

Michael Corvin
12-15-08, 01:55 PM
I suspect the answer is no, but is there any way to combine profiles? I created one when I first got the machine. I created a second profile that I used for Live. It's no big deal but I was wondering if I can merge the first into the second?

:lol: In the three years the system has been out, I don't think I've ever seen that question before. I'm going to say no, but that nothing other than a gut feeling.

kakihara1
12-15-08, 02:09 PM
:lol: In the three years the system has been out, I don't think I've ever seen that question before. I'm going to say no, but that nothing other than a gut feeling.

for real. I'm sure the answer is no but it was at least a question that made me think for a second. I'm almost positive I've never heard it before.

Jeremy517
12-15-08, 02:10 PM
That's a stupid comment. The topic came up so I gave my opinion. It's not like I'm monitoring people's gamerscores to see if points disappear or go down. You might as well go around to every topic of discussion and ask why people care. :rolleyes:


I was referring more to the general case (and to MS), not necessarily you.

nemein
12-15-08, 03:51 PM
:lol: In the three years the system has been out, I don't think I've ever seen that question before. I'm going to say no, but that nothing other than a gut feeling.

That's what I figured, at least I didn't see an obvious way of doing it on the machine. Like I said it's no big deal just wish I had thought about splitting the "gamer card" before registering the 2nd account on live. Guess it just means I'll have to replay some games to reclaim some points ;) Again not that they really mean anything...

fumanstan
12-15-08, 05:06 PM
I was referring more to the general case (and to MS), not necessarily you.

I apologize then for the snappy comment.

Jeremy517
12-15-08, 05:23 PM
Student uses wireless controller to track down stolen Xbox 360 (http://www.dailytech.com/Student+Finds+Stolen+Xbox+360+with+His+Wireless+Controller/article13678.htm)

Gamers put lots of time into their favorite games gaining new abilities, levels, and other benefits as the game goes along. A couple of the worst things that could happen to a gamer is to have his game console stolen or lose the game data stored on the console.

The Standard Online reports that a student named Ryan Ketsenburg from Missouri State was able to recover his stolen Xbox 360 console using a bit of technological knowhow. Ketsenburg reports that he and a roommate came back from a school-sanctioned trip and were so tired they forgot to lock the door to their room.

When the students woke the next day, Ketsenburg realized that his Xbox had been stolen. According to a police report the student says that while he and his roommate were sleeping someone crept into the room and made off with the game system.

The thief neglected to take the wireless controller to the Xbox and Ketsenburg was able to get the controller to connect to the Xbox, meaning that the console was nearby. The game was afoot and Ketsenburg used the LEDs on the controller (which flash when the controller is out of range) to narrow the floor that the console was on down to the fifth floor of the multi-story dorm and finally to a specific room on the floor.

According to reports, the student then contacted the advisor living on the floor of the theft. The advisor searched the room and found the console. Ketsenburg was able to prove that the console was his when the wireless controller turned the Xbox on. He recovered his console, but found that the thief had reformatted the hard drive and that all of the saved games were gone.

Ketsenburg says that he is prosecuting the thief to the fullest extent of the law.


Nice job by the student. The thief, on the other hand, needs to find a occupation, since he isn't very good at that one.

Trevor
12-15-08, 08:30 PM
Frontlines: Fuel of War is $9.99 at Best Buy this week.

dtcarson
12-15-08, 08:42 PM
I would like to remove crap from my download history....I don't really need to know that I have at one time downloaded Kameo Opening Movie, I'd be fine with losing that piece of information. Any paid content obviously should not be removed, or should have multiple opt-out, but it should be easy to remove old free junk.

Michael Corvin
12-15-08, 08:53 PM
Student uses wireless controller to track down stolen Xbox 360 (http://www.dailytech.com/Student+Finds+Stolen+Xbox+360+with+His+Wireless+Controller/article13678.htm)



Nice job by the student. The thief, on the other hand, needs to find a occupation, since he isn't very good at that one.

:lol: That's awesome. Grissom would be impressed.

RubenR
12-15-08, 11:01 PM
the saga continues......Waited all day at work for my XBOX......and nutt'in!!!!

Mr. Cinema
12-16-08, 09:04 AM
My 360 is out for delivery, even though it was originally scheduled for tomorrow. :thumbsup: *fingers crossed it's a Jasper*

House
12-16-08, 12:22 PM
If it's the drive, then it's not covered. Don't know if they send it back or if they bill you. It might just be worth getting a new Arcade unit for $199 and swapping in your old HDD rather than paying for a repair job from MS.


Ya, I'm debating on if I want to do that, or Just get an Elite so I can have a bigger HD. I wish I had RROD, this sucks!

Michael Corvin
12-16-08, 01:00 PM
There is still a high probability you will just get a different refurb if you were to claim you got the RROD. I'd say it's worth a shot before pulling the trigger on a $200+ purchase. I sent my latest one in back in July and got a brand new unit back instead of the one I sent in.

bee_01
12-16-08, 01:23 PM
I had the single red light of death. Sent it in under the RROD warranty and got the same 360 back, but with the RROD. Sent it in, got a different one that works.

No Use For A Name
12-16-08, 04:02 PM
Ya, I'm debating on if I want to do that, or Just get an Elite so I can have a bigger HD. I wish I had RROD, this sucks!

Turn your 360 on, wrap it in a bunch of thick blankets and leave it for a day or two. This should get you the RROD.

rocketsauce
12-16-08, 05:03 PM
Turn your 360 on, wrap it in a bunch of thick blankets and leave it for a day or two. This should get you the RROD.

Or start a fire, but hey I'm sure he has insurance

No Use For A Name
12-16-08, 05:38 PM
If wrapping your 360 in blankets will start a fire, then obviously don't do it. I've read about a lot of people doing this (and nothing about any of them burning their houses down); however, I've never done it myself. Perhaps google "360 force rrod," and try to find a safer way to do it... that, or buy a new, hopefully more reliable, 360.

pinata242
12-16-08, 05:41 PM
Perhaps google "360 force rrod,"

At least try to be helpful when telling someone to google something! http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=360+force+rrod

noob -ohbfrank-

;)

Mr. Cinema
12-16-08, 06:30 PM
My 360 is a JASPER!!!!! It matches the info from Engadget. I have a manufacturer's date of 11/1/08 and the lot number is 0844X. Mine is an Arcade bundle. If you want a Jasper unit, it appears the Arcade is the best chance to get one.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/12/jasper_find.jpg
12.1 amps equals a Jasper unit (65nm CPU, 65nm GPU).

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/10/inside-an-xbox-360-jasper-ben-heck-dissects-the-mythical-consol/

Mr. Music
12-16-08, 06:39 PM
Xbox.com | Free Your Avatar (http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/freeyouravatar/default.htm)

hail2dking
12-16-08, 07:22 PM
My 360 is a JASPER!!!!! It matches the info from Engadget. I have a manufacturer's date of 11/1/08 and the lot number is 0844X. Mine is an Arcade bundle. If you want a Jasper unit, it appears the Arcade is the best chance to get one.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/12/jasper_find.jpg
12.1 amps equals a Jasper unit (65nm CPU, 65nm GPU).

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/10/inside-an-xbox-360-jasper-ben-heck-dissects-the-mythical-consol/

Does it have 256mb flash memory?

RubenR
12-16-08, 07:46 PM
OK, this is really pissing me off :brickwl2: My XBOX has been near my house since Friday!!! I missed it Fri because I was at work, so I got it sent to my work...... Well, no package yesterday, called UPS around 3:30pm. UPS told me that the driver could not find my work.. :wtf: turns out, the school that I work at is undergoing renovation, and has switched the address to the side street.....which is on the same intersection as the original!!!! Sooooo I call UPS again! Tell them about the address change. I am told that If the driver still can not find the school, they will redeliver next day. I'm ok with that, but TODAY, I call @ 8am just to verify..and am told that since the address was wrong, they are holding the package!!! The driver never got the message the 3 previous calls that I made to document apparently dissapeared? Next, I get a personal call from the call center. I am told to verify the new address, so that I may get it tomorrow! They were still using the old address!! I had to repeat the NEW address 3x before he got it!!! Well the saga continues...:fc:

DVDChris
12-16-08, 07:54 PM
yeah, i found that it was best to have them hold it for me. They can actually call you when it is at their facility to come pick up.

DVDChris
12-16-08, 07:55 PM
My 360 is a JASPER!!!!! It matches the info from Engadget. I have a manufacturer's date of 11/1/08 and the lot number is 0844X. Mine is an Arcade bundle. If you want a Jasper unit, it appears the Arcade is the best chance to get one.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/12/jasper_find.jpg
12.1 amps equals a Jasper unit (65nm CPU, 65nm GPU).

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/10/inside-an-xbox-360-jasper-ben-heck-dissects-the-mythical-consol/

Congrats...does the jasper unit still sound like an airplane when playing a game?

Mr. Cinema
12-16-08, 08:00 PM
Does it have 256mb flash memory?
Yes it does. Mine also came with the lower 150w power supply.

GizmoDVD
12-16-08, 08:29 PM
Yes it does. Mine also came with the lower 150w power supply.

Is the Power supply still a giant brick?

Michael Corvin
12-16-08, 08:53 PM
Congrats...does the jasper unit still sound like an airplane when playing a game?

My Falcon doesn't... if I install my games. :)

Mok
12-16-08, 09:52 PM
Just in time for the holidays

For the gentlemen we have
Blue Tuxedo (save that one for prom season)
Black Tuxedo
Shirt with Cummerbund
Black Trilby
Bowler Hat

For the ladies we have:
Elegant Ball Gown
Little Black Dress
Formal Trouser Suit
Elegant Watch
Red 60's Shades
Strappy High Heels
Platform Shoes

edstein
12-16-08, 10:14 PM
Xbox.com | Free Your Avatar (http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/freeyouravatar/default.htm)

I'm probably going to get banned for this one. :D

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8411/liverandmartingh9.jpg

Vryce
12-16-08, 10:50 PM
the only thing that would make that better is if you could get it to play the song Under the Sea.

pinata242
12-17-08, 12:12 PM
Hey, lordwow, I was wondering about the 360voice group. Is everyone on there a member here? Do you care if people join the group just to join? I was just curious as I don't recognize some of the tags over there, let alone their countries.

Not that it matters...

House
12-17-08, 12:48 PM
What enhancements does the Jasper have?

Also I decided I'm going to lie to them and say I have RROD, see what happens.

edstein
12-17-08, 01:03 PM
Isn't Jasper the friendly ghost?

Liver&Onions
12-17-08, 01:40 PM
i'm probably going to get banned for this one. :d

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8411/liverandmartingh9.jpg

banned

mattysemo247
12-17-08, 02:49 PM
Looks like Microsoft is under fire again:

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/microsoft-faces-new-xbox-360-reliability-accusations/1274293

Vryce
12-17-08, 03:15 PM
Looks like Microsoft is under fire again:

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/microsoft-faces-new-xbox-360-reliability-accusations/1274293

The characteristic circular scratches can occur whenever the orientation of the console -- which is designed to be used in either a horizontal or vertical position -- is changed while the drive is spinning. Johnson filed his suit after his console scratched three store-bought game discs, and is seeking $50,000 in punitive damages.

What kind of dumb-ass person moves their console while a disc is in it and spinning?

If that is the only way that the console scratches the discs, I'd laugh his case out of court if I was that judge.

spainlinx0
12-17-08, 03:25 PM
What is everyone playing online? I just started playing COD4 online, and I SUCK! I want to play games with you guys, so what should I buy to do that?

Raul3
12-17-08, 03:35 PM
Gears of War 2, Left 4 Dead, basically whatever was released in the last month. Check the threads for those games.

Jeremy517
12-17-08, 03:57 PM
Some people here definitely still play CoD4. Rock Band 2 is another popular one.

xmiyux
12-17-08, 03:57 PM
What kind of dumb-ass person moves their console while a disc is in it and spinning?

If that is the only way that the console scratches the discs, I'd laugh his case out of court if I was that judge.

That is not the only way it damages. The first time i replaced my console it was putting those circular marks on discs. It screwed up a copy of Viva Piņata and a copy of Gears. My 360 was horizontal and was unmoved. The CSR was a little obnoxious with their questions (Am i sure it wasn't being moved from vertical to horizontal? Am i jumping or thumping the floor to cause vibrations? :lol:) but since i had the extended warranty they replaced it.

I absolutely believe there is some kind of problem with some of the disc drives that cause that problem.

xmiyux
12-17-08, 04:03 PM
Some people here definitely still play CoD4. Rock Band 2 is another popular one.

What he said. You could also check 360voice and look at the blogs for gamertags on here and see what games are popular.

Some folks prefer the board/arcade games, some the music games, and others FPSs. I mostly play Halo, Gears, Rock Band 2, CoD4, and L4D. I could be enticed to play some of the Arcade titles like Castle Crashers, Carcassonne, Ticket to Ride, Lost Cities, and even Uno.

Giantrobo
12-17-08, 04:06 PM
spainlinx0, Left 4 Dead is great and Gears of War 2's "Horde" multiplayer is also fun.

kms_md
12-17-08, 04:20 PM
That is not the only way it damages. The first time i replaced my console it was putting those circular marks on discs. It screwed up a copy of Viva Piņata and a copy of Gears. My 360 was horizontal and was unmoved. The CSR was a little obnoxious with their questions (Am i sure it wasn't being moved from vertical to horizontal? Am i jumping or thumping the floor to cause vibrations? :lol:) but since i had the extended warranty they replaced it.

I absolutely believe there is some kind of problem with some of the disc drives that cause that problem.

the only problem i have had with my launch console is the disc marking. and, it has only happened to a single disc (battlefield: bad company). the console has never been in the vertical position. i am waiting to see if it happens again to another disc, in which case i will send it back (my warranty expires 11/09). btw, the game disc still plays fine.

Jeremy517
12-17-08, 04:40 PM
That is not the only way it damages.

That isn't the only way it damages, but the article clearly says that he moved it from horizontal to vertical (or vice-versa) while it was on.

discostu1337
12-18-08, 12:58 AM
So I just canceled my Netflix after trying it out for a month. It's pretty terrible on the 360. The streaming is really un-reliable, and their choices are terrible. I remember the first time I fired up a Heroes episode, it was in HD...then never again. Tonight, everything would give me 1 bar of quality, except some Joe Rogan comedy thing was 4 bars. If they ever get their act together so that the very small selection of movies I would actually want to watch would run properly, I'd give them another chance.

Decker
12-18-08, 02:15 AM
I've really had no problems with the Netflix streaming and I always show a strong signal. Now if you fast-forward ahead then there can be some long buffering times, but otherwise it's worked pretty well for me.

On the other hand, you're dead on about the pathetic selections of movies available for streaming. I hope that improves soon. Still need to watch Superman Doomsday before they pull it after New Years. Will my repaired console return by then.....

xmiyux
12-18-08, 07:12 AM
My DSL connection normally kind of sucks so i generally get 2 bars on the Netflix stream. That works out well enough to satisfy me since i mostly use Netflix for actual DVD rentals. The streaming was a little bit of a bonus.

edstein
12-18-08, 10:26 AM
I usually get two bars as well. And I'm satisfied with the quality considering my DSL connection. The content on Netflix is really good IMO. Especially since they made the deal with Starz. Before that deal was made, the Netflix on demand content was pretty bad.

Michael Corvin
12-18-08, 10:33 AM
Is there a particular reason why there are so many people still on DSL, or is it still the 'in' thing to hate the cable company? $35/month here for 10.0 down, $45 for 20.0. I couldn't imagine being on a 3MB line.

Wick
12-18-08, 10:33 AM
I used to get two bars on average (sometimes one,) but my family upgraded our internet service from 3mb/s to 10mb/s and it's now a constant 3 bar connection. I figured that, with that kind of an upgrade, it'd go to four bars but no luck.

Wick
12-18-08, 10:34 AM
Is there a particular reason why there are so many people still on DSL, or is it still the 'in' thing to hate the cable company? $35/month here for 10.0 down, $45 for 20.0.

I live out in the country a bit on a backroad and the only way to get high speed internet and TV (satellite that is,) is to go with Bell, our phone company. Rogers Cable/Internet aren't available to us because the wire doesn't run high enough up on my road.

xmiyux
12-18-08, 10:38 AM
Is there a particular reason why there are so many people still on DSL, or is it still the 'in' thing to hate the cable company? $35/month here for 10.0 down, $45 for 20.0. I couldn't imagine being on a 3MB line.

I live in the suburbs but i also live in West Virginia which isn't exactly at the head of the pack on technology. My choice is either DSL or cable and the cable here is horrific. When my father had cable internet he was down approximately one day a week. The connection also fluctuated so much it would have been bad for gaming.

So i'm stuck with a solid DSL connection but only 1.5 down. :(

mattysemo247
12-18-08, 10:38 AM
Is there a particular reason why there are so many people still on DSL, or is it still the 'in' thing to hate the cable company? $35/month here for 10.0 down, $45 for 20.0. I couldn't imagine being on a 3MB line.

haha, you would really hate my connection speeds then. I have 1.5 DSL for $15 a month

We are in the process of moving though and our new connection is 5.0 through cable

Krayzie
12-18-08, 11:04 AM
Is there a particular reason why there are so many people still on DSL, or is it still the 'in' thing to hate the cable company? $35/month here for 10.0 down, $45 for 20.0. I couldn't imagine being on a 3MB line.

Cable internet here costs more than dsl. My cable tv is also unreliable. Just the other day it went out about 9 times in 2 hours.

Jeremy517
12-18-08, 11:53 AM
Is there a particular reason why there are so many people still on DSL, or is it still the 'in' thing to hate the cable company? $35/month here for 10.0 down, $45 for 20.0. I couldn't imagine being on a 3MB line.

It is $50+ for the slowest cable modem service if I don't want to switch to cable television. For us, DirecTV >>>> cable TV, so DSL it is. I also get an additional bundle discount for having DirecTV, DSL, and phone service.

House
12-18-08, 12:45 PM
Is there a particular reason why there are so many people still on DSL, or is it still the 'in' thing to hate the cable company? $35/month here for 10.0 down, $45 for 20.0. I couldn't imagine being on a 3MB line.

I don't have either right now because comcast forces your to buy the TV service with it. which I really don't need. So does you cable company allow you to just have the internet only?

xmiyux
12-18-08, 12:47 PM
Well i called today and got them to upgrade me from 1.5 down to 3.0 down for no extra charge. That is the fastest i can get in this area. :lol: Now it feels like my internet is screaming and i can get 3-4 bars on the Netflix thing. :lol:

bee_01
12-18-08, 01:31 PM
Is there a particular reason why there are so many people still on DSL, or is it still the 'in' thing to hate the cable company? $35/month here for 10.0 down, $45 for 20.0. I couldn't imagine being on a 3MB line.

In Houston it's $30 for 6.0 DSL or $50 for 6.0 cable.

Michael Corvin
12-18-08, 01:51 PM
Wow @ all the DSL replies. I feel special. :lol: I can understand the DirectTV bundle, I'm on the same thing with the cable co. phone/cable/internet saves a bit a month.

Well i called today and got them to upgrade me from 1.5 down to 3.0 down for no extra charge. That is the fastest i can get in this area. :lol: Now it feels like my internet is screaming and i can get 3-4 bars on the Netflix thing. :lol:

That's awesome... still slow, but awesome. ;)

fumanstan
12-18-08, 02:02 PM
Cable is more expensive here ($45) but faster then the cheaper DSL. Since I have a bundle from my Cable company, I don't mind.

FusionX
12-18-08, 03:21 PM
Internet speed is one area where money isn't too important for me. I'd rather pay a higher price to get faster/more reliable service. I did shop around, but I value my internet and need it fast, so money isn't an issue there. I could never go back to DSL or slower than 20.0

ElementZ
12-18-08, 03:40 PM
I live out in the country a bit on a backroad and the only way to get high speed internet and TV (satellite that is,) is to go with Bell, our phone company. Rogers Cable/Internet aren't available to us because the wire doesn't run high enough up on my road.


I can't stand Rogers. I am currently using Aliant (bell). Sadly, those are our only two choices around here.

kakihara1
12-18-08, 04:23 PM
Our cable company is Mediacom, it's a really shitty service, the last I had them there were drops in the service for a few seconds about every 10-20 minutes, and yes it would disconnect you from live. My DSL service is only 5/1 but it's super stable.

pinata242
12-18-08, 04:27 PM
Did I mistakenly wander into ISP Talk?

mrpayroll
12-18-08, 04:44 PM
Did I mistakenly wander into ISP Talk?

Yes, now please leave!

Chris

pinata242
12-18-08, 05:00 PM
Yes, now please leave!

Chris

Uhhh... Cox sucks. Can I stay now, please?

Liver&Onions
12-18-08, 05:17 PM
Uhhh... Cox sucks. Can I stay now, please?

take it to xcritic please.

lordwow
12-18-08, 05:24 PM
take it to xcritic please.

If a post is made on XCritic and no one reads it...

Raul3
12-18-08, 07:45 PM
It may be a little low since we have 2 laptops with VPN (wife and me, different works) running right now.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375333120.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

edstein
12-18-08, 07:55 PM
Ugh. ATT DSL.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375337039.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

RubenR
12-18-08, 08:00 PM
I got my ;) red ring'ed ;) 360 back!! :banana: It IS my original, same s#. It seems as if they put in their ultra new "silent drive" where the DVD tray used to be? Reason being, that thing does not make any noise!...and I have not heard the FAN turn on at all. Any way, I am 1 happy camper :clap: Since I have "played" the red ring card, does any one know if MS will sell me an extended warranty on top of a FRESH repair?

THX,
Rub

Liver&Onions
12-18-08, 08:01 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375339746.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Jeremy517
12-18-08, 08:04 PM
I got my ;) red ring'ed ;) 360 back!! :banana: It IS my original, same s#. It seems as if they put in their ultra new "silent drive" where the DVD tray used to be? Reason being, that thing does not make any noise!

You are lucky. Mine came back twice as loud as it had been, and it was pretty loud to begin with.

Michael Corvin
12-18-08, 08:34 PM
Did I mistakenly wander into ISP Talk?

:lol: I just asked a simple question.

wlmowery
12-18-08, 09:18 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375365973.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375366626.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

fumanstan
12-18-08, 09:21 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375367447.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

RubenR
12-18-08, 09:51 PM
Jeremy517, the last time mine died(the week before halo3), it came back LOUD! and the fan seemed like it was on all of the time!! I had been having "overheating" issues with it since June....

edstein
12-18-08, 10:13 PM
Damn, that 20mb is some serious speed. I thought only Fiber had speeds that high.

No Use For A Name
12-18-08, 10:25 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375387271.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

edstein
12-18-08, 10:35 PM
Alright we get it my speeds sucks. :grumble: Let's go back to RROD talk. That's not as depressing.

SoonerDoc
12-18-08, 11:07 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375400661.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

always seem to have 4 bars....

mrpayroll
12-18-08, 11:14 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/212144062.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

AT&T U-Verse

I feel so slow compared to the other kids! :(

Chris

fumanstan
12-18-08, 11:21 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/212144062.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

AT&T U-Verse

I feel so slow compared to the other kids! :(

Chris

Whew, mine's not as small as mrpayroll's.

mhg83
12-18-08, 11:41 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375410537.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Thats strange since my att is supposed to be 1.5 mb???

Liver&Onions
12-19-08, 12:24 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375410537.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Thats strange since my att is supposed to be 1.5 mb???

try unplugging your DSL modem for 30 seconds, then plug in and try again. Apparently that can make things slow if you don't do it often.

ChrisHicks
12-19-08, 12:31 AM
I am really jealous of some of these speeds.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375423850.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

TheBigDave
12-19-08, 08:17 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375572248.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

dtcarson
12-19-08, 08:32 AM
OK, if y'all on Comcast are getting speeds like that, why is there so much bitching about Comcast (out "there", not here?)
I'm lucky if I get http://www.speedtest.net/result/375578239.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
or
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375579128.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Admittedly I'm only paying for the "middle tier" of service, now that Time Warner has divided it out (something like 700k, 7MB, and 10MB, and of course prices vary).

Since getting my box back (had the Unreadable Disk error) my wife occasionally gets "This content can no longer be accessed" (or something similar) when playing Rock Band 2 when I'm not logged in. I though MS did whatever transfer needed to be done, and to be safe, I even went to Xbox.com and redownloaded everything as well. Has anyone else had that problem?

Michael Corvin
12-19-08, 08:52 AM
They say that but it often doesn't happen from reading on this forum. Did you run the DRM tool? (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/licensemigration/)

edstein
12-19-08, 10:15 AM
Here is my work connection. Check out that upload speed.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375627945.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Kicker_of_Elves
12-19-08, 10:32 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375635265.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375636844.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

nemein
12-19-08, 11:09 AM
This is work:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375659486.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

unfortunately home is no where near that :(

KirstenS
12-19-08, 12:02 PM
Work for me. Wish I could get even half of this at home. My home speeds are the lowest I've seen on here.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375687091.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Michael Corvin
12-19-08, 12:03 PM
Hot damn. I think we have a winner.

mattysemo247
12-19-08, 12:04 PM
haha, 360 news must be really slow right now

abrg923
12-19-08, 12:46 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375712378.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Liver&Onions
12-19-08, 12:54 PM
sorry to break the chain here. But I'm going to pick up a Jasper I think to cash in on the power consumption break it has. So in selling my old unit, I have my old 20g drive still - what do you guys think is fair to sell it for? I'll be getting the arcade unit most likely (even though I wish it had the chrome) to get the jasper and keep my 120g.

$150?
$200?
$175?

It's to the roommate of my girlfriends brother...so i don't want to over douche him on it like I would on craigslist. I'll probably throw in PGR3 as well, since they are car tards.

pinata242
12-19-08, 12:57 PM
Non-hdmi w/ controller, 20gb hdd, and pgr3? I'd say you're right in the 150-175 range. Pushing 200 isn't bad since it has the hdd.

Liver&Onions
12-19-08, 12:58 PM
Non-hdmi w/ controller, 20gb hdd, and pgr3? I'd say you're right in the 150-175 range. Pushing 200 isn't bad since it has the hdd.

correct.

Oohh, that's right - i'll get hdmi with the new one :)

Michael Corvin
12-19-08, 01:35 PM
Somebody you know? I'd say $150.

...wait, so you are getting an arcade and keeping your old 20GB drive? If so then yeah, I wouldn't do over $150 since he can get the Arcade himself for $50 more brand new, warranty, yada, yada, yada. So you'll be going with HDMI. Don't forget to give him the component cables then.

Liver&Onions
12-19-08, 01:41 PM
Somebody you know? I'd say $150.

...wait, so you are getting an arcade and keeping your old 20GB drive? If so then yeah, I wouldn't do over $150 since he can get the Arcade himself for $50 more brand new, warranty, yada, yada, yada. So you'll be going with HDMI. Don't forget to give him the component cables then.


no, i'm giving him the 20G, I'm keeping the 120G.

Michael Corvin
12-19-08, 01:51 PM
Sorry, read that wrong.

pinata242
12-19-08, 02:04 PM
Non-hdmi w/ controller, 20gb hdd, and pgr3? I'd say you're right in the 150-175 range. Pushing 200 isn't bad since it has the hdd.

correct.

Oohh, that's right - i'll get hdmi with the new one :)

Sorry, read that wrong.

What are we, chopped liver?

kakihara1
12-19-08, 03:09 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375387271.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Yes Please :)

Liver&Onions
12-19-08, 04:20 PM
Interesting - I saw Pro units with the 12V power supply indicating a Jasper. I only went with the arcade because i saw no reason to pay $100 for a chrome disc cover.

Quake1028
12-19-08, 07:08 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375902442.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

ElementZ
12-19-08, 08:30 PM
Got ya all beat!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375930771.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

edstein
12-19-08, 08:51 PM
Sweet. I had't realized that rotary dial modems had progressed so far.

Trevor
12-20-08, 12:15 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375994554.png

Decker
12-20-08, 02:28 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/376028622.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
I love my cable modem :wub:

nemein
12-20-08, 07:34 AM
This is work:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375659486.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

unfortunately home is no where near that :(

This is home

http://www.speedtest.net/result/376126597.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Wonder if they would let me put the Xbox on the work network ;)

Giantrobo
12-20-08, 07:47 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/375902442.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I have RR Cable Internet too and it seems they can't get higher than that. I'm at work now but when I tested my home PC, it was a little slower than what you're getting. I'm sure there's RR folks out there who get blazing speeds, but I ain't one of 'em.

keit2208
12-20-08, 09:28 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/376173164.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

:( only costs me $20 a month tho, no contract

PopcornTreeCt
12-20-08, 04:45 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/376380244.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This is without any huge downloads.

Imprint
12-22-08, 03:44 PM
Is there supposed to be another sale this week (like the Halo maps, Foo Fighters Rock Band DLC, etc.)?

dvd182
12-22-08, 05:36 PM
So, I have an HDMI problem on an arcade system I bought a week ago. Basically all of my HDTVs now say that the signal coming from the 360 over is "not supported". The 360 works fine on a 22" lcd computer monitor I have with an HDMI->DVI cable, so the HDMI port can't be completely shot.

I've tried setting the resolution on the 22" monitor to 1280x720 and 640x480 to see if a more common resolution would be noticed by the television, but no dice. I don't have an option for 720x480 on my 22" lcd, or I'd try that too.

There a multiple page post on the xbox.com support forums and avsforums about people with the exact same problem, but no solution yet (and I'm not holding out hope). Some people have had luck blindly navigating the menus with no picture over HDMI and somehow selecting a supported res, but that hasn't worked for me yet, either.

Am I missing something obvious here? Also, with the system relatively new should I try to swap it back at Toys R Us where I got it from, or send it to MS? This is all further complicated by the fact that I just deleted, relicensed with the new tool, and redownloaded all of my DLC for XBLA and Rock Band, which used up my one use of the license tool for a year.

Thanks in advance for any help or ideas.

UncleGramps
12-22-08, 05:40 PM
Is there supposed to be another sale this week (like the Halo maps, Foo Fighters Rock Band DLC, etc.)?
Looks like it's the first Halo game for 600 points (regularly 1200 points). Whoop-a-dee-doo!

http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/12/22/this-weeks-deal-halo-combat-evolved.aspx

Spicollidriver1
12-22-08, 06:03 PM
I don't actually have the original Halo, and even though I think the series is highly overrated they are still entertaining and it might be fun to play through it again.

GatorDeb
12-22-08, 06:16 PM
I have 1.5 service. I'd like 8.00 but we got promotion pricing for the first six months of cable/phone/internet and I can't up the Internet until it's over without forfeiting the cheaper pricing on the other two :mad:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/377484285.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

dvdsteve2000
12-22-08, 07:57 PM
So, I have an HDMI problem on an arcade system I bought a week ago. Basically all of my HDTVs now say that the signal coming from the 360 over is "not supported". The 360 works fine on a 22" lcd computer monitor I have with an HDMI->DVI cable, so the HDMI port can't be completely shot.

I've tried setting the resolution on the 22" monitor to 1280x720 and 640x480 to see if a more common resolution would be noticed by the television, but no dice. I don't have an option for 720x480 on my 22" lcd, or I'd try that too.

There a multiple page post on the xbox.com support forums and avsforums about people with the exact same problem, but no solution yet (and I'm not holding out hope). Some people have had luck blindly navigating the menus with no picture over HDMI and somehow selecting a supported res, but that hasn't worked for me yet, either.

Am I missing something obvious here? Also, with the system relatively new should I try to swap it back at Toys R Us where I got it from, or send it to MS? This is all further complicated by the fact that I just deleted, relicensed with the new tool, and redownloaded all of my DLC for XBLA and Rock Band, which used up my one use of the license tool for a year.

Thanks in advance for any help or ideas.

I had that problem happen on my 61" Sammy DLP a couple times. I'm running an HDMI splitter from Monoprice with a cablebox, 360, and PS3 running through it. I received the same message that you are, and all it took (after I tried everything else) was unplugging the splitter (from the wall) for about 5 minutes and then plug it back in. I'm not sure what happened to cause the problem, but that's how I fixed it (twice).

dvd182
12-22-08, 08:28 PM
I had that problem happen on my 61" Sammy DLP a couple times. I'm running an HDMI splitter from Monoprice with a cablebox, 360, and PS3 running through it. I received the same message that you are, and all it took (after I tried everything else) was unplugging the splitter (from the wall) for about 5 minutes and then plug it back in. I'm not sure what happened to cause the problem, but that's how I fixed it (twice).

Strange. I also have a monoprice hdmi splitter that this 360 has worked great with, but I'm away from home for the holidays and all of the sudden I'm having trouble with the HDTVs here. I don't think that the 360 is wrecked, but I've just about tried everything and can't get it to work.

dvdsteve2000
12-22-08, 08:41 PM
Mine worked great also. As a matter of fact, I played the 360 the same day (in the morning) that that happened. In the evening we turned it on to watch an HD-DVD and we got the 'not supported' message. Nothing happened to cause it, we didn't unhook or move anything, it just happened.

Gooter
12-23-08, 09:42 AM
Hard drive talk again...

I have around $155 in gamestop credit burning a hole in my pocket. I was going to pick up 3 XB360 games and be done with it. But now, since I have RB1 & RB2 and would like to try the install games to hard drive feature, I'm thinking I should get a hard drive.

Should I go all out and get the 120gb or get the 60gb and 1 game?
Is 60gb enough? (I have around 3gb left on my 20gb)
Both are waaayyy overpriced, but the 120 is a little cheaper $/gb.

Thanks

Michael Corvin
12-23-08, 09:47 AM
Get a used 120GB. If I'm not mistaken they are around $100 at GS. Then you still have some credit to put towards some games.

I have the 120 and have installed maybe 4-5 games, have a bunch of RB DLC(+RB1 import), halo maps, 30 arcade games, etc. and am already down to 67GB. Not sure how much reserved space is on the 120 but just looking at the numbers I've already eaten up almost 60GB of space somehow.

Gooter
12-23-08, 09:54 AM
Get a used 120GB. If I'm not mistaken they are around $100 at GS.

A little leary about buying it used. I'll have to take a look at GS's warranty. Anyone buy a used XB hard drive before? Any issues I should be concerned about?

hail2dking
12-23-08, 11:26 AM
A little leary about buying it used. I'll have to take a look at GS's warranty. Anyone buy a used XB hard drive before? Any issues I should be concerned about?

I bought a used one w/o problems (it was from a returned Elite).

This weekend they have a B2G1 deal (starts Friday). If you don't have an Edge card, this would be a good to to buy one (would pay for itself if you bought the 120gb and a $55 game w/ the 2nd free)

Michael Corvin
12-23-08, 12:07 PM
This rumor (http://www.europe-nintendo.com/forums/general-articles-centre/997-source-achievements-to-be-patched-into-original-xbox-titles.html)sounds interesting.

Back-compat titles may see updates to include 500 points worth of achievements...





... why the source sent the rumor to a Nintendo site, I have no clue. :lol: So definitely, grain of salt time.

Groucho
12-23-08, 12:11 PM
Wow, that truly is a "juicey peice" of information. :rolleyes:

Vryce
12-23-08, 12:14 PM
But.. But..

I read it on the internetz.. It must be true! :(

Krayzie
12-23-08, 12:20 PM
how is fable 2?

slop101
12-23-08, 12:25 PM
Fable 2 is decidedly above average.

fumanstan
12-23-08, 12:49 PM
I think Fable 2 is enjoyable. It's nothing particularly deep, but a fun diversion and fairly easy to run through which was great for me.

Groucho
12-23-08, 12:51 PM
Gotta love Fable 2. You can kill a guy's family and friends, buy his house from under him and jack up the rent, and have your dog urinate on him. But he'll forgive it all if you just do a sock puppet show.

fumanstan
12-23-08, 01:03 PM
Just like in real life.

rocketsauce
12-23-08, 02:24 PM
Gotta love Fable 2. You can kill a guy's family and friends, buy his house from under him and jack up the rent, and have your dog urinate on him. But he'll forgive it all if you just do a sock puppet show.

I think I know that guy

mattysemo247
12-23-08, 02:49 PM
Saw this over on slickdeals:

Blockbuster.com has Stranglehold Game for XBox 360 for $10 - $3 (with code HOLIDAYSURPRISE) = $7 with free shipping.

Orange Box is also $12 after coupon

pinata242
12-23-08, 05:26 PM
This rumor (http://www.europe-nintendo.com/forums/general-articles-centre/997-source-achievements-to-be-patched-into-original-xbox-titles.html)sounds interesting.

Back-compat titles may see updates to include 500 points worth of achievements...

... why the source sent the rumor to a Nintendo site, I have no clue. :lol: So definitely, grain of salt time.

Wow, that truly is a "juicey peice" of information. :rolleyes:
I think it's a fantastic idea and it makes sense that they'd want to do this for the titles they want you to download from them. Hell, since Intellivision DS doesn't appear to be coming, I might just get that game for the nostalgia (again) and achievements! :lol:

I'd rather they get BG&E and the PoP games going again first, so I can actually play them (replay in the case of Sands of Time).

Michael Corvin
12-23-08, 06:35 PM
Both BG&E and Sands of Time are in my top 5 from last gen games I wish I hadn't sold. BG&E still isn't on the back-compat list is it? I did rebuy BG&E for the GC, but I'd probably get it if it was offered up on the Marketplace. Same for PoP, which I haven't re-bought yet.

pinata242
12-23-08, 06:38 PM
It makes no sense to me why these highly popular/reviewed titles with sequels already available or coming to the platform haven't been given priority.

Michael Corvin
12-23-08, 06:45 PM
Some I understand completely. Two others I was interested in: Riddick, $60 for a remake with some new features + new campaign becomes half as attractive when the original is backwards compatible. Same goes for Top Spin. Why buy the sequels when the original is still the cream of the crop?

RichardW
12-23-08, 11:09 PM
What a joke. :(

http://www.speedtest.net/result/378135115.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Jamieson22
12-23-08, 11:27 PM
Mediocre rules!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/378143096.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Decker
12-23-08, 11:31 PM
Saw this over on slickdeals:

Blockbuster.com has Stranglehold Game for XBox 360 for $10 - $3 (with code HOLIDAYSURPRISE) = $7 with free shipping.

Orange Box is also $12 after coupon

Orange Box is a great deal -- less than Portal in XBLA.

Is there ANYONE alive who still wants Stranglehold but didn't buy it yet? "Hmmm, I don't know... I really want to play Stranglehold, but that $10 price tag at Best Buy is a little too rich for my blood. Maybe a better deal will come along..."

Michael Corvin
12-23-08, 11:31 PM
I caved and bought Halo off the marketplace. 600 is a pretty good price (even though I own the disc).

Trevor
12-24-08, 12:51 AM
Is there ANYONE alive who still wants Stranglehold but didn't buy it yet? "Hmmm, I don't know... I really want to play Stranglehold, but that $10 price tag at Best Buy is a little too rich for my blood. Maybe a better deal will come along..."

:johnwoo:

I just picked it up. Was picking up an Orange Box for my nephew/niece and decided what the heck. Was never intrigued much by it, but good reviews and a $7 price is hard to resist.

Giantrobo
12-24-08, 06:57 AM
This rumor (http://www.europe-nintendo.com/forums/general-articles-centre/997-source-achievements-to-be-patched-into-original-xbox-titles.html)sounds interesting.

Back-compat titles may see updates to include 500 points worth of achievements...

... why the source sent the rumor to a Nintendo site, I have no clue. :lol: So definitely, grain of salt time.

If true...I think this would be AWESOME. I know many here are "above" caring about Achievements and Achievement points, but I'm a huge fan of the concept. I like getting something for my efforts other than hand cramps. :D

I had been thinking of replaying some OG XBOX titles like "Batman Begins" and others and getting some new points for playing would be icing on the cake.

edstein
12-24-08, 09:57 AM
I caved and bought Halo off the marketplace. 600 is a pretty good price (even though I own the disc).

Do you really have that many extra MS points that you had to spend them on a game you aleady have? You could have gotten a few songs for rock band instead.

Michael Corvin
12-24-08, 10:02 AM
Before that purchase I had two 4000 pt cards in my account and another 5 or 6 1600 point cards in a drawer at home. Not sure the exact price, but with the deals/prices I got on those points, Halo was probably well under $5. So well worth it for drive noise and convenience of it just being in my games library.

I didn't try it out yet, but I wonder if that game will see and use my save game from the disc version. I don't see why not, but you never know.

aktick
12-24-08, 10:26 AM
Why does my 360 make a metal clank sound a couple minutes after starting up? It's just at the dashboard, makes the sound once (almost every time I start it), and that's it. Anything to be concerned about?

xmiyux
12-24-08, 10:34 AM
Before that purchase I had two 4000 pt cards in my account and another 5 or 6 1600 point cards in a drawer at home. Not sure the exact price, but with the deals/prices I got on those points, Halo was probably well under $5. So well worth it for drive noise and convenience of it just being in my games library.

I didn't try it out yet, but I wonder if that game will see and use my save game from the disc version. I don't see why not, but you never know.

Sure sure.

Likely story.

Before we know it Corvin will be hawking Kindles on Craiglist and neglecting his poor 360.

Michael Corvin
12-24-08, 10:45 AM
:lol: Me neglect my 360? That'll be the day. Seriously. I'm still floating on the $5 1600 point cards from Target from over the summer. I did just get the 4000 point cards off ebay with the 30% cashback, so not near as cheap but still decent. I had to drop those into the account to make sure they were valid.

Oh, and I didn't want any games for christmas... just points. rotfl I'm addicted. Looks like the only way my 360 will be neglected is if I join a support group.

xmiyux
12-24-08, 10:51 AM
I asked for only points instead of games as well. I don't think anyone believed me.

mrpayroll
12-24-08, 12:05 PM
Work for me. Wish I could get even half of this at home. My home speeds are the lowest I've seen on here.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/375687091.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I did the test at work and when it got up to 77,000 / 55,000 I got scared shitless and closed the window. :eek:

Aren't you guys and girls a little worried about running the tests at work? I mean if I'm not mistaken, that is at least 77MB down & 55MB uploading all of a sudden. And since the tests run about 20 seconds, those would be averages and a lot more data is being sent back and forth.

Chris

Quake1028
12-24-08, 04:17 PM
I finally was able to make it into a GameStop and pick up the Arcade disc for $5. This is one of the best deals around, $40 worth of XBLA games for $5. And, to make it even better, I only had Uno from the list :).

Quake1028
12-24-08, 04:21 PM
Same goes for Top Spin. Why buy the sequels when the original is still the cream of the crop?

Top Spin 3 is leagues better than Top Spin. And this is coming from someone who has completed Virtua Tennis, Tennis 2K2, Top Spin, Top Spin 2, Top Spin 3, Sega Superstars Tennis, Virtua Tennis 3, Mario Power Tennis, etc. Once you get used to it, it's the best playing and deepest tennis game of all-time.

Raul3
12-24-08, 09:46 PM
Damn Michael Corvin!
I was playing Halo 3 yesterday and such a fun that tried to buy some DLC, it seems I've already bought both DLC maps. Go figure.
So I remembered about his post and bought Halo, for half the price!
Actually I don't have the disc anymore, I never played it in the Xbox 360. Of course I played hundreds (?) of hours of Halo in the original Xbox. A lot of MP, the old way, with everyone in the same room and sharing the screen. :D
If they could only add Live support to this game...

Krayzie
12-26-08, 09:26 AM
I finally was able to make it into a GameStop and pick up the Arcade disc for $5. This is one of the best deals around, $40 worth of XBLA games for $5. And, to make it even better, I only had Uno from the list :).

I would like it better if you didn't need the stupid disk to play. Even with a hd install it still reads off the disc the entire time. Apparently it's a 5.9gb install of crappy demos.

Mr. Cinema
12-26-08, 11:26 AM
Top Spin 3 is leagues better than Top Spin. And this is coming from someone who has completed Virtua Tennis, Tennis 2K2, Top Spin, Top Spin 2, Top Spin 3, Sega Superstars Tennis, Virtua Tennis 3, Mario Power Tennis, etc. Once you get used to it, it's the best playing and deepest tennis game of all-time.
That's good to hear. I loved Top Spin, but the 2nd one was so awful that it has me terrified to try out part 3.

Mr. Cinema
12-26-08, 11:33 AM
Does anyone here have the red wireless controller? Is it identical to the standard one? The only reason I ask is there was a couple of reviews on Amazon that said the d-pad is different or is better than what the standard controller had.

Is this the case?

PixyJunket
12-26-08, 11:52 AM
There were rumors that MS had a "fixed" dpad ready for the 360 controllers but obviously it's going to be a silent update (they were supposed to be initially rolled out with green limited edition controllers for some soccer game in Europe). If people are seeing it in the red controller, that's a good sign.

Mr. Cinema
12-26-08, 11:54 AM
What's wrong with the current d-pad? I haven't noticed any issues.

I hope the US gets a green controller. I would love one of those.

Decker
12-26-08, 12:28 PM
What's wrong with the current d-pad? I haven't noticed any issues.


The D-pad on the current one is awful. It's mushy and imprecise. Try playing Pac Man CE with it and you'll see.
The red ones have the standard D-pads, not the redesign. I won't buy another controller until they come out with the redone Dpad that was on the green Euro controller.

Krayzie
12-26-08, 12:50 PM
Does anyone here have the red wireless controller? Is it identical to the standard one? The only reason I ask is there was a couple of reviews on Amazon that said the d-pad is different or is better than what the standard controller had.

Is this the case?

I have a red, black and white controller. I'll have to compare them.

Giantrobo
12-26-08, 01:09 PM
I asked about this red controller with the alleged redesign a few weeks ago. Does anyone have pics of the Green Controller with the new dpad?

I hate d pads anyway but I'd like to know more about it.

GatorDeb
12-26-08, 01:29 PM
Picked up Eternal Sonata for $12.89 shipped at GoGamer.com :D

Decker
12-26-08, 02:03 PM
I asked about this red controller with the alleged redesign a few weeks ago. Does anyone have pics of the Green Controller with the new dpad?

I hate d pads anyway but I'd like to know more about it.

It doesn't look any different, it's just redesigned for function

http://ui31.gamespot.com/1086/500x3751_2.jpg
http://ui13.gamespot.com/1292/500x3755_2.jpg
http://ui22.gamespot.com/2421/500x3752_2.jpg

Here's the Game Spot article (http://www.gamespot.com/hardware/blogs/hardware-insider/909185655/26593264/xbox-360-limited-edition-green-wireless-controller-hands-on.html)about it.

Giantrobo
12-26-08, 04:42 PM
Oh ok.