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Old 10-12-08, 06:29 PM
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Mad Men--"The Jet Set"--10/12/08

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On a business trip to Los Angeles, Don becomes acquainted with some exciting new friends. Peggy looks for romance at work. Duck starts thinking about the future of Sterling Cooper.
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Had to laugh at Pete having absolutely no game in LA.

Don just slips in and out of situations with aplomb. Joy had this Grace Kelly look about her in the pool. Tasty. Laura Ramsey (Joy) was a blonde in "Ruins" recently. The Jet Set do live a different life.

Cosgrove's reaction to Curt was abrupt and to the point, but in the time period, political correctness hadn't quite sensitize people to Curt's sexual orientation. Sal pretty much had to hold in a gulp or two, as his closeted sexualitiy was bursting to free itself, but not with the reaction of his co-workers on display, nor his own acceptance of who he is. Had to smile at Curt's hairdressing skills (not sure if they were trying to prop up a stereotype or simply update Peggy's hairstyle).

Duck finally succumbed to the bottle again, got a bit of his bravado back, and has payback on his mind. Roger won't see it coming, but he is a man in love with a woman young enough to be his daughter.

Glad to see Don's suitcase make it to Betty's home, now, will Don make it back, or will he confront his Dick Whitman past and have residual damage from dredging up the past?

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Don just ditching Pete was funny, but I didn't really care for the rest of his story.

Looking forward to see what happens with Duck's plan.
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Something about a woman's bare back that just does it for me.
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Well that was an interesting group of nomads that Don found himself hanging out with.
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Who did Don call as "Whitman?"
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I wonder if Pete Campbell will reveal Don's past to anybody else. The only other person who knows is Cooper, and he's a nimkompoop. I wonder if Sterling or Don's wife would dismiss the news as easily as Cooper. "Who cares?"
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This reminded me of one of those Sopranos episode where you watch it on Sunday and think "what the fuck was that" then about two days later it all makes sense. After reading a few comments here, that just happened.

This show is (and will probably) going to pass Dexter as the best show on TV right now.
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Right, I always love the care and attention that the writers pay to subtext, and using the past to bridge to the present, by confronting overt expressions of the past that have been turned into covert thoughts and feelings of the present due to political correctness and "social progress".
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The actress who played Joy sounded so much like January Jones, for a minute I was wondering if they were pulling a Vertigo and having her play a different character.
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It's amazing how different some of the actors and actresses look when you put them in the clothing and hairstyles of this period. Seeing Rich Sommer as a preppy college student in The Office was crazy, and if it wasn't mentioned in this thread, I would've never placed Joy as the blonde girl from The Ruins.

Anyway, great episode. I can't believe the season is almost over.
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so the group Don fell in with..swingers or what?
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What Don fell into is almost every unsatisfied man's fantasy: to be taken in by beautiful people with money, and fawned over. Frankly, Betty is very annoying...and she's not giving Don any incentive to return home. Shit, she keeps kicking him out...what, exactly, does she expect? Will she be surprised if he stays in California? She'd only have herself to blame - after all, she wouldn't even let the man take a shower in his own house! The hell with her!

Edit: I think Pete would have loved to be in Don's shoes.

Speaking of Pete and how he holds the secrets of Don's past...how can Don sit back and abide Pete knowing this sensitive information about him? I'm not saying Don should bump him off or anything...however...how can Don just not even discuss the situation with Pete, come up with ground rules or something? I mean, what's the keep Pete from telling anyone else? After all, "Whitman" would be in trouble with the United States Government - a) for taking someone else's identity; b) for possibly "deserting" the armed forces? Don could go to jail for what he did. That would be more leverage for Pete, as opposed to just telling Mr. Cooper...

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Originally Posted by Jadzia
The actress who played Joy sounded so much like January Jones, for a minute I was wondering if they were pulling a Vertigo and having her play a different character.
I thought that, too. Interesting episode but seemingly off-kilter -- I'll wait to see if it comes together better with future developments.
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Originally Posted by Buttmunker
What Don fell into is almost every unsatisfied man's fantasy: to be taken in by beautiful people with money, and fawned over. Frankly, Betty is very annoying...and she's not giving Don any incentive to return home. Shit, she keeps kicking him out...what, exactly, does she expect? Will she be surprised if he stays in California? She'd only have herself to blame - after all, she wouldn't even let the man take a shower in his own house! The hell with her!

Edit: I think Pete would have loved to be in Don's shoes.
The guy did cheat on her with multiple partners for god knows how long.
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
The guy did cheat on her with multiple partners for god knows how long.
Big deal. Women have to weigh the options: what's worse? Having no husband and being alone, or having a husband who cheats?

Let's break it down a little further: what's better, a guy who doesn't cheat but maybe beats you up or insults you all the time and is a bad father to your children? Or, a guy who cheats but treats you nice and is a good father to your children?

What is sex, after all, but a human function? If a guy does something with someone for 15 minutes, but brings all his love home to you, and provides for you - you're going to kick him out? That's silly. What Betty (and the rest of you) need to learn is - there's no such thing as a "perfect man." Cheating is the least of your problems. Your husband could have a serious drug habit, or a gambling problem, or an abuse issue.

I always say: weigh your options. You throw out the devil you know, and the devil you don't know could be a thousand-times worse.
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
The guy did cheat on her with multiple partners for god knows how long.


It was a man's world. How dare she be such an annoying bitch!!!!
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Originally Posted by Buttmunker
what's better, a guy who doesn't cheat but maybe beats you up or insults you all the time and is a bad father to your children? Or, a guy who cheats but treats you nice and is a good father to your children?.
Is that the only two options you see?
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Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Big deal. Women have to weigh the options: what's worse? Having no husband and being alone, or having a husband who cheats?

Let's break it down a little further: what's better, a guy who doesn't cheat but maybe beats you up or insults you all the time and is a bad father to your children? Or, a guy who cheats but treats you nice and is a good father to your children?

What is sex, after all, but a human function? If a guy does something with someone for 15 minutes, but brings all his love home to you, and provides for you - you're going to kick him out? That's silly. What Betty (and the rest of you) need to learn is - there's no such thing as a "perfect man." Cheating is the least of your problems. Your husband could have a serious drug habit, or a gambling problem, or an abuse issue.

I always say: weigh your options. You throw out the devil you know, and the devil you don't know could be a thousand-times worse.
So, how long have you have been cheating on your wife?
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Is that the only two options you see?
the third option, which is really unmentionable, involves cereal.
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Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Big deal. Women have to weigh the options: what's worse? Having no husband and being alone, or having a husband who cheats?

Let's break it down a little further: what's better, a guy who doesn't cheat but maybe beats you up or insults you all the time and is a bad father to your children? Or, a guy who cheats but treats you nice and is a good father to your children?

What is sex, after all, but a human function? If a guy does something with someone for 15 minutes, but brings all his love home to you, and provides for you - you're going to kick him out? That's silly. What Betty (and the rest of you) need to learn is - there's no such thing as a "perfect man." Cheating is the least of your problems. Your husband could have a serious drug habit, or a gambling problem, or an abuse issue.

I always say: weigh your options. You throw out the devil you know, and the devil you don't know could be a thousand-times worse.
Um, ok. Staying with a Man who cheats on you or beats you just as long as long as he comes home "After" is a good thing.
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so the group Don fell in with..swingers or what?
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
Um, ok. Staying with a Man who cheats on you or beats you just as long as long as he comes home "After" is a good thing.
No, I said "beating" is unacceptable. I said "cheating" is the least of a woman's problems.

As far as Betty and Don are concerned, Betty's biggest problem is not her husband's cheating. Her biggest problem is how distant he can be with her and with the kids. If Don came home "happy" (which he don't), Betty wouldn't have a problem.

And she's basing it all on what that douche said. She has no "real evidence," and Don did the smart thing and denied everything.
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Originally Posted by Buttmunker
No, I said "beating" is unacceptable. I said "cheating" is the least of a woman's problems.

As far as Betty and Don are concerned, Betty's biggest problem is not her husband's cheating. Her biggest problem is how distant he can be with her and with the kids. If Don came home "happy" (which he don't), Betty wouldn't have a problem.

And she's basing it all on what that douche said. She has no "real evidence," and Don did the smart thing and denied everything.
No real evidence but he was sleeping around.
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