College Football Week 6: The "Miami would OWN the MEAC, screw the ACC" Edition

[Quake1028]

Don't forget to vote in our very own college football poll:

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/sports-talk/540596-dvd-talk-college-football-rankings-week-6-a.html

Results
Tuesday
Middle Tennessee 14
Florida Atlantic 13

Wednesday
(17) Boise State 38
Louisiana Tech 3

Schedule by someone who isn't lazy. Two big games tonight, Pitt at USF and Oregon State at Utah.

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[Quake1028]

TV Schedule
http://mattsarz44017.tripod.com/2008/week6.html

ESPN/ABC 3:30
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ABC 8:00
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[FantasticVSDoom]

Awww FSU-Miami weekend... I remember when this was THE weekend. So much has changed now. I mean Auburn-Vandy has more importance now :sad:

[twikoff]

a top 10 team is trailing by 5 with less than 5 minutes to play in the game
and noone is saying anything -ohbfrank-

[Red Dog]

Just switched over from the 'debate.' Good to see a competitive game. Thank goodness I didn't take USF.

[Red Dog]

a top 10 team is trailing by 5 with less than 5 minutes to play in the game
and noone is saying anything -ohbfrank-


Nobody probably knew that USF is a top-10 team. I sure didn't. :lol:

[twikoff]

groethe with a massive mistake there
could be enough to lose this game for them
really.. 1 first down to just about do it with the new clock rules

[twikoff]

Nobody probably knew that USF is a top-10 team. I sure didn't. :lol:

well.. last season they snuck all the way up to #2.. and they have the same team in place.
but yea.. they are able to slip under the radar

[twikoff]

first down with 2:35 to play and usf only has 1 timeout left
this is basically over

[twikoff]

6 seconds
ball at midfield
usf gets 1 shot at the endzone

[twikoff]

ballgame.. pitt upsets #10 south florida :up:

[Dr_Evil]

ballgame.. pitt upsets #10 south florida :up:

Sad news for Pitt fans. Wannstache buys another year.

[Daryl]

Utah has tied up Oregon State with a touchdown and 2 point conversion after a pass interference call on the first 2-point try. 1:30 to go

[Daryl]

3 and out for OSU, Utes get the ball in great position at their own 45 with 1:06 to go. Their FG kicker is awesome, BTW

[Daryl]

Utah wins on a last second 38-yard FG, 31-28.

[Quake1028]

Two awesome games last night. Didn't have internet access much of the night so couldn't really post. I updated the first post with all of the rankings.

[twikoff]

my morning options

arkansas/florida - should be interesting for the first quarter
penn st/purdue - should be interesting for the first 10 minutes
iowa/mich state - might have been interesting a few years ago
oklahoma/baylor - should be interesting until the 3rd OU offensive play

and teams to be announced on VS in 30 minutes..

hopefully the vs game is a good matchup

[Quake1028]

I have all of those. I also have Indiana vs. Minnesota on the B10 Network, Georgia Tech vs. Duke on ESPNU, BC vs. NC State on a local channel and Rutgers vs. WVU on ABC.

[twikoff]

i gotta switch off my cable system. blah
not that i want indiana/minn or tech/duke :lol:

[Quake1028]

My Versus game is Kansas vs. Iowa State. Probably what you have also.

[twikoff]

yep channel guide still has teams to be announced listed
but titantv shows kansas/iowa state

meh

[starman9000]

Minnesota with a 16 play 9 minute drive to start the game....and they miss the chipshot field goal.

[Quake1028]

Oh those shitty Gophers :lol:.

[twikoff]

purdue with a couple 4th down conversions
this one a passing play

[twikoff]

espn gameday was at vandy for the first time in school history today.. and here are some of the signs being held up by vandy fans


If VU wins the SEC, should we leave for a better conference?

4-0? What's next, the Cubs in the playoffs?

Nickson - "I am not a crook."

The geeks shall inherit the turf

This Doormat is pissed

4-0, It's not just a GPA anymore

:lol:

[twikoff]

ouch for purdue
they stop penn state short on 3rd and goal from the 1
penn state rushes to the line and goes for it on 4th and gets stuff
but the refs rushed in and also blew the whistle.. saying they are going to review the 3rd down play.. which obviously wasnt close to a touchdown

so now penn state gets a 2nd shot at 4th and goal

[twikoff]

and of course if you give them 2 shots at it.. they get in on the 2nd one :lol:

[Daryl]

Howcanthisbe?! Penn State fans for years have been saying the Big Ten refs are out to get them and don't want them in the conference.

[Daryl]

Purdue sucks balls

[twikoff]

Purdue sucks balls

i think that became evident when they lost to notre dame

[twikoff]

wow.. quick first half on the psu/purdue game

anyone know how many plays it took oklahoma to score their first touchdown? I see it was a 53 yard score, 1:10 into the game.. wondering how close my 3 play guess was ;)

[Applejack]

wow.. quick first half on the psu/purdue game

anyone know how many plays it took oklahoma to score their first touchdown? I see it was a 53 yard score, 1:10 into the game.. wondering how close my 3 play guess was ;)

I believe it was on the third play of their first drive.

[twikoff]

I believe it was on the third play of their first drive.

i rock :banana:

[twikoff]

oh
and purdue still sucks

[Daryl]

sarcasm time: good way for the Big Ten to fight the perception that the conference sucks.... let Iowa and Purdue play on national TV on ESPN and ESPN 2

[starman9000]

shhhhh!

I want to take some pleasure in the Gophers possibly winning a Big Ten game for once. ;)

[twikoff]

iowa coach = idiot

[Daryl]

Kirk Ferentz earns 3 mill a year. He has repeatedly called for draw plays on 3rd and long, and on 3rd and short he splits his RB wide, so there's no play-action threat. Now down 10, in FG range with a chance to get within 7, he goes for it on 4th down. He must have money on MSU. As someone on this board said about a game a few weeks ago (and it quickly became my favorite phrase): watching this game is like watching two virgins fucking

[Daryl]

touchdown Iowa - someone give Ferentz a contract extension

[twikoff]

He must have money on MSU.

well.. you know it is a conspiracy



<small>couldnt resist ;) </small>

[Daryl]

:lol: now, now, don't you go starting any trouble....

[Daryl]

that didn't take long Kansas is now up 21-20 after starting out down 20-0

[Daryl]

:lol: @ Iowa

[twikoff]

tebow gives up his first INT in 204 passes
a good throw = touchdown.. bad throw = directly to defender and gives arkansas life

[Daryl]

:lol: at Michigan St. They almost piss away the game on a QB sneak by fumbling

[Daryl]

Up 7 on Rutgers with 2 minutes to go, WVU goes for it on 4th and 1 and loses 9 yards on the play. Rutgers ball on the WVU 44

[Daryl]

WVU stops Rutgers on 4th and 5 and fails. Ballgame. Brutal 2nd down play, the QB missed the wide open RB coming across the middle with plenty of open field ahead. Hopefully, the RB doesn't slap him after the game

[twikoff]

nice 75 yard run by florida for the touchdown.. great move to find an opening, and then outran everyone

[twikoff]

nice 75 yard run by florida for the touchdown.. great move to find an opening, and then outran everyone

and they follow it up with a 48 td run on the next possession
and that was just trying to run the clock out :lol:

[TruGator]

and they follow it up with a 48 td run on the next possession
and that was just trying to run the clock out :lol:

Both of those guys are freshman. Hopefully they will gain a little weight and retain that SPEED.

[twikoff]

Both of those guys are freshman. Hopefully they will gain a little weight and retain that SPEED.
i was actually :lol: more at the defense on those plays
neither one of them would have been a touchdown against an SEC defense ;)

[TruGator]

Randy Shannon has stacked the cupboard for the next coach at Miami.

[Quake1028]

Jesus Christ. Everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. Second half can't get any worse, that's the only bright spot.

[twikoff]

well.. there you go.. miami gets the huge break there

[Daryl]

ugh, Juice Williams chose today as his one accurate game per season. I thought the Illini would win a mini-shootout, like 31-28, but their D has played very well.

[Canadian Bacon]

well.. there you go.. miami gets the huge break there

They already got a break by being in the ACC instead of in a real conference ;)

[reubs82]

Just checking in for the day. Bacon, my condolences. Also, will this be 'Bama's letdown game?

[twikoff]

Just checking in for the day. Bacon, my condolences. Also, will this be 'Bama's letdown game?

letdown game, yes
loss, no
kentucky already gave them one huge gift
they will give them at least one more where it really matters

[Canadian Bacon]

Bacon, my condolences.

thanks
I guess ;)
but actually I saw some good today of course that's compared to the last 2 games ;)

[twikoff]

holy crap! look at texas tech sticking it to k state :eek:

[twikoff]

and as expected.. kentucky gave the big gift by not covering the wide open fumble at the 2 yard line and instead banging it out of bounds
which set bama up for the fg to ice the game

[twikoff]

and to make it worse.. kentucky is able to pickup a cheap touchdown quickly
so now they will try an onside kick, down 3, 40 seconds left in the game

thats kentucky.. so close, but not going to get a win :lol:

[twikoff]

and there is the final gift

with one horrid attempt at an onside kick
too deep, too hard, in the air, and straight out of bounds rotfl

[Daryl]

What the hell is going on in this Miami-FSU game? Wasn't it like 31-10 or something like that????

[MrX]

Big win for the Illini:banana:

[MrX]

What a catch

[MrX]

rotfl

[Daryl]

Big win for the Illini:banana:
Thanks for the compliment! ;)

[FantasticVSDoom]

Christ, even in down years I hate this game...

[twikoff]

thats how rivalry games are suppose to end :up:

[Daryl]

thats how rivalry games are suppose to end :up:

I turned it, was there a fight? ;)

[Quake1028]

Two fucking BRUTAL gut punches in the last two weeks. Both games are probably won by an older team. It's times like this that I HATE caring about sports so much :(.

[twikoff]

I turned it, was there a fight? ;)

ha! it wasnt the florida game

[Canadian Bacon]

I turned it, was there a fight? ;)

no, just a shooting

don't worry no one died ;)

[MrX]

Thanks for the compliment! ;)
Are you pining for John Navarre yet?;)

[FantasticVSDoom]

Ill take a win against Miami any day, even if they build a 24-0 lead and piss it away while driving me batshit crazy.

[Quake1028]

Need I direct you to the Fulmer Cup standings, where Arkansas (and Bama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee) all finished well ahead of Miami and F$U :p?

[Quake1028]

Texas up 14-0 on Colorado already.

[The Cow]

Time to play the "what if" game...

"What if" Auburn had <i>any</i> semblance of an offense this season?

[twikoff]

the bad part is that they have the players, but terrible scheme

[Quake1028]

"What if" Miami had an semblance of a red zone or third down defense today or at any point this season?

[FantasticVSDoom]

Damn, when did the smart kids learn to play football?

[Daryl]

Are you pining for John Navarre yet?;)
ha - I'd kill for his accuracy. I don't mind the lack of speed at QB: it is what it is, there's nothing you can do about it, and that will take care of itself in the next year or two with the recruits coming in. But the inaccuracy is a killer. Below 50%, that's almost as bad as Ryan Mallett. Plays were there to be made, just couldn't make them.

[Canadian Bacon]

Auburn is getting beat by a bunch of Nerds ;)

[twikoff]

Auburn is getting beat by a bunch of Nerds ;)

the exact opposite of what they will be facing next week ;)

[The Cow]

the bad part is that they have the players, but terrible scheme

Yeah, I agree with that. I work with an Auburn grad, and that's all he talks about. It's very evident in their play calling.

Is it the offensive coordinator's fault or does it go deeper than that (I don't know much about their coaching staff).

[Daryl]

Auburn is getting beat by a bunch of Nerds ;)
:lol:
http://media.pegasusnews.com/img/photos/2006/04/04/revenge.jpg

[The Cow]

Nice TD drive for Ohio State on the 1st possession. Wells TD :up:

[twikoff]

Is it the offensive coordinator's fault or does it go deeper than that (I don't know much about their coaching staff).

OC, OC, and more OC
they brought in tony franklin and his spread offense that he has spent the last few years selling to anyone with a checkbook.. and he took what has always been a power offense.. spread it out.. and then with the offense spread, tried to run the ball up the middle into the defensive line

it makes no sense.. either spread and pass on every play.. or setup a normal formation and run it over them (like they were doing in the first qtr)

franklin knows its his fault..and they were suppose to be shelving the spread offense for the rest of the season.. but they tried to bring it back in today after taking a 2 td lead.. makes no sense..
although shelving an offense that you spent the entire offseason working on, and been using so far.. is going to be tough to do much of anything with any other offense now

[The Cow]

Gotcha. So what's the word on his job security?

[The Cow]

:lol: 20-yard sack on Pryor for Wisconsin. They were all over that one.

[twikoff]

Gotcha. So what's the word on his job security?
no word yet.. they have already done a really good job of recruiting for next season.. so Im sure that plays into it
I would be glad to drive him to the airport myself though

[twikoff]

fucking missed extra point
you always know those will kill you

[The Cow]

Damn, man. That is UGLY.

You probably have a better chance getting your defense to score anyway.

[twikoff]

new clock rules, it doesnt matter
a first down and its over anyways

[twikoff]

damn damn damn damn damn

[Quake1028]

Maryland is fucking bi-polar. They lose to Middle Tennesee, beat Cal and Clemson, and are now losing 24-0 to a fucking awful Virginia team.

[twikoff]

wow.. what a punt
1 yard line
crap!

[twikoff]

interception
thats ballgame

bah! first loss to vandy in 53 years
sheesh

[Quake1028]

Vandy :banana:! Get my 6 points in the upset thread ready!

[RoyalTea]

will vandy fans rush the field? or does the SEC still fine schools for letting the students have fun?

[twikoff]

:lol: i took vandy too -ptth-

with our offense.. if we happen to still be ranked.. ill take arkansas next week too

[RoyalTea]

lights out in Chapel Hill.

literally. the lights don't work.

[Quake1028]

Maclin might not win the Heisman, but he and Harvin are the two best players I have seen this year.

[Daryl]

Ouch. What a sandwich hit

[The Cow]

Ouch. What a sandwich hit

OSU receiver has no clue where he is.

[twikoff]

i stepped away to grab a bite to eat as the missouri game started
i figured nebraska would have a good enough defense to slow them down a little
but i come back and barely over a minute is gone and missouri already put up a td :lol:

but nebraska with a td too :up:

[Byron_T]

no word yet.. they have already done a really good job of recruiting for next season.. so Im sure that plays into it
I would be glad to drive him to the airport myself though

The thing about Auburn's recruits is they are all 5'9'' or 5'10'' 165 lb - 185lb skill players. They are gonna have to stay with the spread because they would have a hard time running a power offense in the SEC with the guys they have coming in.

[Daryl]

Pryor is the weirdest looking football player I've ever seen. It looks like he's literally shotputting the ball, and yet he can effortlessly toss it 50+ yards in a tight spiral. It looks like he's slow and methodical when running, and yet he can gain like 6 yards in just 2 steps and no one can catch him from behind.

[twikoff]

yep.. thats true
they are bringing in speed athletes built for the spread
rather than trying to use what they had already in the spread this year
so i guess its a bit of this year they are pushing a square peg in a round hole
but im not very happy with what ive seen of his system so far, even if its using the wrong personnel

[twikoff]

if this is how nebraska is going to play defense all night.. missouri may have another 50+ point game

[Byron_T]

Running the spread at Troy is one thing but SEC defenses are bigger and faster and I don't think it can work consistently playing that level of competition. Don't get me wrong, when it's working you can score points but you can't win in the SEC without being able to push teams around a little.

[BKenn01]

thats kentucky.. so close, but not going to get a win

Yep, but they made it respectable. Bama was supposed to trounce them. Rich Brooks has made Kentucky some what competitive now in the SEC. Not going to beat all the big boys all the time, but they get a bone everyonce in a while.

[Daryl]

yep.. thats true
they are bringing in speed athletes built for the spread
rather than trying to use what they had already in the spread this year
so i guess its a bit of this year they are pushing a square peg in a round hole


did you cut and paste this from a Michigan board? ;)

[twikoff]

Running the spread at Troy is one thing but SEC defenses are bigger and faster and I don't think it can work consistently playing that level of competition. Don't get me wrong, when it's working you can score points but you can't win in the SEC without being able to push teams around a little.

from my understanding.. the thought isn't to get to the 'troy spread' but instead to more along the lines of the 'oklahoma spread'
seems to be working pretty good for them :shrug:

[twikoff]

didnt i see the osu game on somewhere.. i need a game to flip to while missouri/nebraska is on commercial
or after missouri blows them out ;)

[Daryl]

ABC is either Wisky/OSU (at the half) or USC/Ore-gawn

[twikoff]

hmmm. i have usc now
but i could have swore i had osu for awhile
must have been bonus coverage or something

[Quake1028]

You probably had OSU bonus coverage during the UNC lights out situation.

[twikoff]

ah yea.. i bet thats it..

[Daryl]

just like last week, the Wisconsin receivers have hands of stone

[The Cow]

What.The.Fuck?

1st and goal at the three for OSU. pass, run, pass?

Should have been "Wells up the middle, Wells up the middle, Wells up the middle, and if there is a 4th, then Wells up the middle". If you don't get that you don't deserve to win. That's gonna haunt.

[atlantamoi]

http://blog.al.com/goldmine/2008/10/auburn_loss_may_lead_to_offens.html

"Auburn's offense may be in store for some changes, at least according to some players who listened to coach Tommy Tuberville in the dressing room after Vanderbilt beat the Tigers 14-13 Saturday night.

Wide receiver Rod Smith said Tuberville said the changes could come as early as Sunday, but Smith said he didn't know what the changes would be. Auburn tried different things offensively against the Commodores with mixed results.

``I don't know what we are right now -- spread, old Auburn offense. I'm just really confused right now. Everybody is confused,'' Smith said. ``Everybody is hurting.''

When asked if the changes would be drastic, Smith said it would ``probably be drastic changes.''
``We need to get back to old Auburn football,'' he said.

Auburn, which looked so sharp in its first three series of the game, was held to just 84 yards in the final three quarters.

Tuberville said he apologized to his players after the game for not having them prepared.

_______________

Disappointing loss, but nowhere close to shocking. High expectations to start the season have made this crap look so much worse. Look out Arkansas! Oh, wait...

[twikoff]

i wonder if franklin would be able to find his way back to auburn if the buses left him in nashville

[Daryl]

Wisky takes the lead, 17-13, 6:31 to go

[Daryl]

OSU fumbles on back to back plays, recovers them both.

[MrX]

Badgers on the verge of another choke

[MrX]

A "methodical drive" Yeah , because this tOSU is so high powered:lol:

[Daryl]

:lol: I've seen warm butter offer more resistance than the Wisconsin defense. TD OSU 20-17 1:08 to go

[The Cow]

:lol: I've seen warm butter offer more resistance than the Wisconsin defense. TD OSU 20-17 1:08 to go

I'm fine with it :up:

[MrX]

Bielema looks like he just realized Evridge is his QB

[The Cow]

Nice telegraphed pass :lol:

[Daryl]

Bielema looks like he just realized Evridge is his QB
I can't imagine why. Oh wait a second........ :lol:

[Quake1028]

Badgers :lol:.

[RoyalTea]

did a Ohio State defender just tackle his own player on that INT?

[Daryl]

Way to play great football for 55:00 and then piss it away with a prevent defense

[The Cow]

Pretty typical Jim Tressel script.

Good thing is that it works in the Big Ten, but doesn't work out of conference.

Unfortunate, since he's had the talent (and does this year too) to bring some good teams to the outer world.

[dsa_shea]

We went to the Gators game today and it was a good time. The first half or so was very predictable offense from the Gators, but towards the end of the third and through the rest of the game they picked it up. I got a picture of my daughter with Percy Harvin and she was excited.

[The Cow]

Weird note of the day:

"OSU snapped Wisconsin's 16-game home winning streak, which was second longest in the nation behind Oklahoma's 21."

I'm not surprised so much by the OSU win, but I am surprised that Wisconsin had the #2 streak. Sadly that shows a weak Big Ten the last coupla years (minus a few surprises)... weird.