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Save Ferris
09-30-08, 09:51 AM
A friend was arguing that Illinois is a more liberal state than California.

I seem to remember there was a list going around that was a ranking of where the states fell on the political spectrum. Not talking red/blue but overall liberal vs conservative.

anyone have a handy dandy link?

Venusian
09-30-08, 09:57 AM
Not a state but Washington D.C.?

wendersfan
09-30-08, 09:58 AM
Vermont is the most liberal state, Utah is the most conservative:

http://files.myopera.com/wendersfan/albums/149280/2004ExitPollPolPhilosophy.jpg

Rockmjd23
09-30-08, 10:00 AM
Not as left as Vermont! :banana:

spainlinx0
09-30-08, 10:16 AM
But Utah has polygamy!

classicman2
09-30-08, 10:18 AM
I believe it's South Carolina - or maybe it's Mississippi.

CRM114
09-30-08, 10:39 AM
Vermont is the most liberal state, Utah is the most conservative:

http://files.myopera.com/wendersfan/albums/149280/2004ExitPollPolPhilosophy.jpg

What is the graph using to determine the x-axis?

spainlinx0
09-30-08, 10:43 AM
Gays per capita.

wendersfan
09-30-08, 10:43 AM
What is the graph using to determine the x-axis?The mean value, by state, in response to the following:=============================================================================
E1. INTRO PRE LIBERAL-CONSERVATIVE SCALE
=============================================================================

Please look at page 3 of the booklet.
We hear a lot of talk these days about liberals and
conservatives. Here is a seven-point scale on which the
political views that people might hold are arranged from
extremely liberal to extremely conservative.

=============================================================================
V043085 E1a. Liberal/conservative self-placement -7-point scale
=============================================================================

PRE-ELECTION SURVEY:

QUESTION:
---------
Where would you place YOURSELF on this scale, or haven't
you thought much about this?

VALID CODES:
------------
01. Extremely liberal
02. Liberal
03. Slightly liberal
04. Moderate; middle lf the road
05. Slightly conservative
06. Conservative
07. Extremely conservative

MISSING CODES:
--------------
80. Haven't thought much {DO NOT PROBE}
88. Don't know
89. Refused

Which is from the 2004 American National Election Study conducted by the Inter-university Consortium for Political and Social Research at the University of Michigan.

The Bus
09-30-08, 11:10 AM
If you go by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index">CPVI</a>, Utah is the most Republican, while Mass, NY, and Rhode Island are most Democrat.

matta
09-30-08, 11:10 AM
What is the graph using to determine the x-axis?

"On a scale from 0 to 100, how patriotic are you?"

bhk
09-30-08, 02:26 PM
"On a scale from 0 to 100, how patriotic are you?"

Heh heh....

movielib
09-30-08, 03:01 PM
The mean value, by state, in response to the following:=============================================================================
E1. INTRO PRE LIBERAL-CONSERVATIVE SCALE
=============================================================================

Please look at page 3 of the booklet.
We hear a lot of talk these days about liberals and
conservatives. Here is a seven-point scale on which the
political views that people might hold are arranged from
extremely liberal to extremely conservative.

=============================================================================
V043085 E1a. Liberal/conservative self-placement -7-point scale
=============================================================================

PRE-ELECTION SURVEY:

QUESTION:
---------
Where would you place YOURSELF on this scale, or haven't
you thought much about this?

VALID CODES:
------------
01. Extremely liberal
02. Liberal
03. Slightly liberal
04. Moderate; middle lf the road
05. Slightly conservative
06. Conservative
07. Extremely conservative

MISSING CODES:
--------------
80. Haven't thought much {DO NOT PROBE}
88. Don't know
89. Refused

Which is from the 2004 American National Election Study conducted by the Inter-university Consortium for Political and Social Research at the University of Michigan.
They have obviously never heard of the Nolan Chart.

wendersfan
09-30-08, 03:06 PM
They have obviously never heard of the Nolan Chart.They started asking that question more than 20 years before the Nolan Chart existed. The whole point of the ANES studies are to have consistent wording to questions over time.

Mikael79
09-30-08, 03:09 PM
I've always argued that Minnesota is the most True Blue state, being that they have the longest running record of voting Democrat for President, thanks to Mondale. :)

Groucho
09-30-08, 03:12 PM
Utah is the most conservativeWhat's funny is that there's Obama signs and bumper stickers everywhere. But hardly anything for McCain. Presumably because voting Republican is the "default" position.

CRM114
09-30-08, 03:16 PM
I see all McCain signs around here in eastern PA.

matta
09-30-08, 03:32 PM
I see all McCain signs around here in eastern PA.

I don't see any in GA. Of course, that could be because Obama poured money into the state and McCain didn't.

Venusian
09-30-08, 03:56 PM
The only lawn signs I've seen are McCain. I've seen Obama and McCain bumper stickers

Rockmjd23
09-30-08, 04:13 PM
I haven't seen any McCain stickers around here. I assume that people don't want their cars vandalized. :)

Red Dog
09-30-08, 04:15 PM
I haven't seen any McCain stickers around here. I assume that people don't want their cars vandalized. :)


Same around my parts. It's Obama everywhere.

classicman2
09-30-08, 04:45 PM
I don't see any signs for either Obama or McCain.

Most of the signs I see are for local elections.

And, a few for Sen. Inhofe. I want to tear them down.

movielib
09-30-08, 05:08 PM
They started asking that question more than 20 years before the Nolan Chart existed. The whole point of the ANES studies are to have consistent wording to questions over time.
As long as it's consistently inadequate, then OK!

movielib
09-30-08, 05:11 PM
I don't see any signs for either Obama or McCain.

Most of the signs I see are for local elections.

And, a few for Sen. Inhofe. I want to tear them down.
I probably disagree 80% with Inhofe. But I think he is one of the most, if not the most, important senator(s) to re-elect.

Isn't there about a snowball's chance in global warming hell he won't be re-elected?

If I lived in OK, I might even break my 28 year boycott on voting. :)

FlickMan
09-30-08, 05:21 PM
Vermont is the most liberal state, Utah is the most conservative:

http://files.myopera.com/wendersfan/albums/149280/2004ExitPollPolPhilosophy.jpg

How ironic, given that Utah is where polygamy is/was/secretly practiced.

classicman2
09-30-08, 05:49 PM
I probably disagree 80% with Inhofe. But I think he is one of the most, if not the most, important senator(s) to re-elect.

Isn't there about a snowball's chance in global warming hell he won't be re-elected?

If I lived in OK, I might even break my 28 year boycott on voting. :)


3 things I do like about Inhoffe:

1. He supports a realistic & comprehensive energy plan.

2. He keeps (helps) military establishments in OK from closing.

3. He's a thorn in the side of Barbara Boxer.

wm lopez
09-30-08, 06:57 PM
I would think it's the states that don't want Jessica's Law.

wendersfan
09-30-08, 09:11 PM
I would think it's the states that don't want Jessica's Law.
You mean like <a href = "http://www.billoreilly.com/outragefunnels">Idaho and Wyoming</a>?

:hscratch:

classicman2
10-01-08, 02:32 PM
I believe it would more interesting to have a thread ranking liberal-conservative of each of our members. I'm certain our moderators would not have any objections to that. :)

LurkerDan
10-01-08, 03:07 PM
Having lived in Vermont, I don't think it is the most liberal. It has some whacky liberal tendencies for sure, but also has a weird maverick streak. Votes a lot on personality, and not so much on party.

Venusian
10-01-08, 03:19 PM
I believe it would more interesting to have a thread ranking liberal-conservative of each of our members. I'm certain our moderators would not have any objections to that. :)

close:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk/377750-otter-demographics-religion-political-affiliation.html

kenbuzz
10-01-08, 04:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TX > IN > UT

Woo hoo! Walking around Bloomington, you'd think Indiana was in the heart of Obamistan, and that there isn't a single Conservative voter for miles and miles and miles. Nice to be reminded that Monroe County is a tiny little blue island in a solidly red state:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/76/IndianaPresElection2004.PNG/405px-IndianaPresElection2004.PNG
Monroe Co is the only blue county in all of Southern IN.

bhk
10-01-08, 04:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TX > IN > UT

Woo hoo! Walking around Bloomington, you'd think Indiana was in the heart of Obamistan, and that there isn't a single Conservative voter for miles and miles and miles. Nice to be reminded that Monroe County is a tiny little blue island in a solidly red state:


Isn't Bloomington where IU is? That explains it. Oh and Gary, IN.

wendersfan
10-01-08, 04:38 PM
Isn't Bloomington where IU is? That explains it. Oh and Gary, IN.It's like Travis County in Texas.

kenbuzz
10-01-08, 04:40 PM
Yep. Bloomington = Indiana University. Big college in a town with barely twice the population of the school, plus a sparcely-populated county, and nowhere else for Libs to go for miles and miles and miles around.... kinda like Austin, only with bikes and basketballs.

http://thisdistractedglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/Breaking%20Away%20poster%201.jpghttp://www.teachwithmovies.org/guides/hoosiers-DVDcover.jpg

classicman2
10-01-08, 04:50 PM
When I attended the Univ. of Texas I didn't notice it being very liberal - considering I attended The Univ. of Calif. at Berkeley for one semester. Then it was called the 'little red school house.'

JasonF
10-01-08, 05:14 PM
Coincidentally, the bluer the county (in Indiana and in most states), the more people live there.

If we ever go to a system where you get one vote for every acre you own, the Democrats are in trouble. Until then, maps like the one above don't really mean much.

Pistol Pete
10-01-08, 05:54 PM
Taxachusetts