Dodgers vs. The Cubbies playoff series thread

[damn_skippy]

The Dodgers have their work cut out for them. The Cubbies have an awesome team. I just hope the dodgers show up for the series.


Series begins Wednesday
Game Matchup Day Date Time ET TV
Gm 1 LAD @ CHC Wed Oct. 1 6:30 PM TBS
Gm 2 LAD @ CHC Thu Oct. 2 9:30 PM TBS
Gm 3 CHC @ LAD Sat Oct. 4 10:00 PM TBS
Gm 4* CHC @ LAD Sun Oct. 5 TBD TBS
Gm 5* LAD @ CHC Tue Oct. 7 TBD TBS

[fumanstan]

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/series?series=ladchc

Everyone picks the Cubs except 1. Still, I think the Dodgers have a good chance for an upset with Lowe, Billingsley, and Manny.

[WCChiCubsFan]

The Dodgers have the best pitching in the NL and a pretty good offense since Manny joined them.

Even though the Cubs do have the better record I certainly would not consider it an upset if the Dodgers win this series.

[matta]

You know, I was Wrigleyville the other day -- nice place. If only Cubs fans weren't so awful to other teams....

Either way, I say the Cubbies take this series pretty easily. Then lose to the Brew Crew, who fall to the Halos in the WS.

[wm lopez]

The Dodgers have the best pitching in the NL and a pretty good offense since Manny joined them.

Even though the Cubs do have the better record I certainly would not consider it an upset if the Dodgers win this series.

And when the Cubs played the Dodgers earlier this year the Dodgers were not at full strength. Dempster has pitched excellent this past season ,but he's due for a bad outing. And their is a lot of pressure on him. He said the Cubs are going to the World Series at the start of the season.
I pick Dodgers in 4.

[nevermind]

Shocking.

[El Scorcho]

I love that two sets of douchebag fans will enter and only one set of douchebag fans will come out

[damn_skippy]

That doesn't mean much coming from a douchebag san fransico/mariners fan.

[fumanstan]

That doesn't mean much coming from a douchebag san fransico/mariners fan.

:up:

And to be fair, can't we all agree that Red Sox fans are the douchiest? :p

[matta]

:up:

And to be fair, can't we all agree that Red Sox fans are the douchiest? :p

Mets fans, followed by Cubs fans.

[davidh777]

I can tell this is going to be a worthwhile thread

[bauermj]

I can tell this is going to be a worthwhile thread

No kidding. Its packed full of non-Cubs/Dodgers fans ready to troll. Of course its ironic that they are the "douchebags" that they've come to the thread to complain about.

[Goat3001]

I got Cubs in 4. They'll win games 1 and 2 at home. Lose game 3 in LA and take game 4 in LA. Mark it down.

[nevermind]

I got Cubs in 4. They'll win games 1 and 2 at home. Lose game 3 in LA and take game 4 in LA. Mark it down.
I'm thinking Cubs in 4, too.

[starman9000]

Cubs in Five!

Is one of my favorite songs: http://www.archive.org/download/tmg2007-09-22/tmg2007-09-22d1t13_64kb.mp3
(not the best recording, and I'm sure I'll be mocked :) )

[WCChiCubsFan]

I just want the Cubs to win.

In 3 would be great because it would be less stressful.

4 would not be bad but not as good a 3.

5, my cardiologist might get two weeks in Waikiki off of my medical bills.

[El Scorcho]

No kidding. Its packed full of non-Cubs/Dodgers fans ready to troll. Of course its ironic that they are the "douchebags" that they've come to the thread to complain about.

I like your dedication to taking this sports forum as seriously as possible. :up:

[El Scorcho]

That doesn't mean much coming from a douchebag san fransico/mariners fan.

Just because my teams lost a combined 291 games this year doesn't mean I lose my voice, dammit.

[nevermind]

Just because my teams lost a combined 291 games this year doesn't mean I lose my voice, dammit.
it's hard to lose your voice when you don't have to cheer!

[Mordred]

it's hard to lose your voice when you don't have to cheer!:lol:

Cubs in 4.

[GuessWho]

I need Cubs to win game 3 on Sat. I'm having 30 people over that day for my housewarming/Cubs party and I can't let it become a bummer.

[damn_skippy]

I need Cubs to win game 3 on Sat. I'm having 30 people over that day for my housewarming/Cubs party and I can't let it become a bummer.



That's funny I need the Dodgers to win because this guy i know in the Midwest is having this huge party and invited like 30 friends over and there would be nothing better in my eyes to have the Dodgers spoil the party for him and his friends. that would be a great housewarming party.

All and All i just hope the dodgers don't go 3 and out like they have in every other playoff series since 88(except for their 1 win in 04).



Lets Go Dodgers
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/wiki/images/thumb/8/89/Dodgers_logo.jpg/250px-Dodgers_logo.jpg

[Arpeggi]

Dodgers in 4.

[rocketsauce]

Dodgers in 4.

And to think I liked you because you are a Chelsea fan... -ohbfrank-

[juanmgonzalez]

Dodgers in 14, all the way to the World Series win

[fumanstan]

And to think I liked you because you are a Chelsea fan... -ohbfrank-

I didn't think anyone liked Arpeggi -ohbfrank-

[CRM114]

There's only one baseball franchise more pathetic than the Phillies and that is the Cubs.

That said, the Cubs beat the Dodgers but lose in the next round because they are the Cubs.

[rocketsauce]

I had to put up with Philly fans mouths all this past Sunday at the Bears game and look how that turned out. Good luck against Sabathia.

[modfather]

I do want the Cubs to end their horrible streak, but I'm a Dodger fan and always have been. Dodgers in 5. Plus, the Dodgers have 20 years of bad luck, and my daughter was born on the day they won their last WS, 10/20/88.

But now that I think about it, I no longer live in California, hate it there, hate the weather, hate the traffic, hate the people...GO CUBS! ;)

[namja]

Is the wind blowing in or out today?

[rocketsauce]

blowing in

[fumanstan]

Stupid start time means watching the gamecast at work. If only I could work from the cafeteria where I switched the TV to TBS.

[fumanstan]

Crud, home run :(

[El Scorcho]

Dodgers in 4.

And Arpeggi drives another stake in the heart of a team before they could even take the field

[bunkaroo]

Seems like the wind helped that ball out - maybe it's blowing in and out. :)

[rocketsauce]

So are we able to post unspoilered comments in here? Just making sure I don't piss anyone off.

[fumanstan]

Fuck Ethier :(

[nevermind]

6 walks for Dempster.

He is really off tonight. These 2 runs will not hold up at this rate

[nevermind]

See?



fuck me.

[Deftones]

blame that on Lou. Dempster should've been gone after walking them full.

[devilshalo]

Lucky it didn't happen the first time with Ethier swinging at that horrible pitch.

[nevermind]

Fucking Lowe has two walks

:rolleyes:

[devilshalo]

Home run for Manny. :eek:

[fumanstan]

Manny :banana:

[Setzer]

Man, every team I've picked to win in Postseason the past couple years has lost. Any Cubs fans want to pay me to change my pick? :D :lol:

[fumanstan]

Man, every team I've picked to win in Postseason the past couple years has lost. Any Cubs fans want to pay me to change my pick? :D :lol:

It's just one game, so i'm not counting my chickens yet. But hopefully you're always wrong, like this fine gem after the Manny trade :)

Oh and the Dodgers still won't win the NL West with this move....or make the play-offs for that matter.

[Setzer]

talking postseason, not regular season.

[fumanstan]

Wrong nonetheless :up:

[DaveWadding]

*sigh*

[rabbit77]

zambrano's not going to need this added pressure for game 2.

[dsa_shea]

zambrano's not going to need this added pressure for game 2.

He could blow up and storm off the field like a child. The added pressure isn't going to help.

[nickdawgy]

I like how everyone thought it'd be the Cubs easily handling the Dodgers.

[rabbit77]

why wouldn't they? They had a lot going for them. Dempster was pretty much unbeatable at home. This was by all means an upset by the Dodgers.

For my white sox family it was a great time to go grocery shopping. The streets and stores were deserted during the game.

[bauermj]

I like how everyone thought it'd be the Cubs easily handling the Dodgers.

I'm not sure where you get your news. Dodgers have been the trendy pick by most (both ESPN and TBS notably) to beat the Cubs. Funny how fans see what they want sometimes.

[fumanstan]

I'm not sure where you get your news. Dodgers have been the trendy pick by most (both ESPN and TBS notably) to beat the Cubs. Funny how fans see what they want sometimes.

Not according to this: http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/series?series=ladchc

All but 1 picked the Cubs to win the series. And I don't think nickdawgy is a Dodger fan; he's an Angels fan.

[damn_skippy]

Yes. Dodgers got the first game, only 2 more to go.

[Aphex Twin]

Why the heck didn't the Cubs pitch Zambrano in game 1? You gotta go with your ace. Zambrano is your ace and even pitched a no-hitter recently. That's why Lowe is starting and not Billingsly, even though Bills had a better season.

And...when your starter can't throw strikes, you make him throw down the middle 5 or 6 straight times to the other teams leading run producer after he's thrown 100 pitches?

Cubs deserved what they got in game 1.

[wm lopez]

blame that on Lou. Dempster should've been gone after walking them full. Why should he care now he just got a contract extention! The Tribune figures it's not coming out of their pocket, but the next owner. This Cub payroll is going to be mighty high for the next owner.

[wm lopez]

zambrano's not going to need this added pressure for game 2.
The whole team has pressure on them.
The talk on WGN radio after the game was how quiet the Cub fans were.
That could be because the yuppie fans who don't normally go were at that game. They paid the high ticket prices. No collage frat boys or babes at these games.

[rabbit77]

The whole team has pressure on them.
The talk on WGN radio after the game was how quiet the Cub fans were.
That could be because the yuppie fans who don't normally go were at that game. They paid the high ticket prices. No collage frat boys or babes at these games.

No, they were quiet because their spirit was broken.

[nevermind]

don't bother arguing with him, rabbit. it's a waste of time. his opinion is whatever the sports radio or newspaper article tells him it should be, as long as it's anti-Cubs.

[potvin48]

My what a difference a foul tip makes...Loney ticking that last swing was the difference. He doesn't tick that ball, he's out on strikes, and it's a whole different game. His grand slam took all the wind out of the Cubs sails last night.

Just to let it be known, I said (not on these boards) the Cubs would lose game one due to winning the division too long ago. They will rebound tonight with Big Z, and take the series in 5.

[nevermind]

OTOH, Ethier doesn't swing at at awful pitch with the bases loaded earlier in the game and the wind could have been taken out much earlier. Can't walk 8 guys and expect to get away with it.

I just hope Z doesn't walk the first two guys and completely fall apart from the get-go.

[Setzer]

Wrong nonetheless :up:

The Dodgers will win this series, easily. Cubs don't have a chance!

:D

[bunkaroo]

Regardless of how bad the pitching was, if you only have 2 runs to show for 9 hits, you're going to have problems.

[WCChiCubsFan]

Well now the Cubs are really in it since the team that wins the first game generally always wins the series.

Here's hoping for a miricle from Zam tonight.

[CRM114]

I had to put up with Philly fans mouths all this past Sunday at the Bears game and look how that turned out. Good luck against Sabathia.

Look how that turned out? The Bears beat them. So what? You got a victory beating them without Westbrook. Yay!

What is so wrong with saying the Cubs are more pathetic than the Phils? Sure, the Phils have over 10,000 losses. Sure the Phils rarely go to the post season and have only won a single World Series in over 100 years of history. But we won one. :)

[wm lopez]

don't bother arguing with him, rabbit. it's a waste of time. his opinion is whatever the sports radio or newspaper article tells him it should be, as long as it's anti-Cubs.
Ah, no. It's whats reported by what the true story is which is the reporters in the media and the fans at the game. Which as I am writing this I am listening to callers in the Chicago area. So once again everything I write is from a majority of fans in CHICAGO and sorry it again doesn't agree with the few of DVD FORUM.

[nevermind]

What is so wrong with saying the Cubs are more pathetic than the Phils? Sure, the Phils have over 10,000 losses. Sure the Phils rarely go to the post season and have only won a single World Series in over 100 years of history. But we won one. :)

In over 100 years of history, the Cubs have won 2 :)

[fumanstan]

The Dodgers will win this series, easily. Cubs don't have a chance!

:D

D'oh! :(

[CRM114]

In over 100 years of history, the Cubs have won 2 :)

Well there you go. I stand corrected. The Phillies ARE the most pathetic franchise in all of sports. :) The Cubs are just more pathetic in the modern era.

[rocketsauce]

Well there you go. I stand corrected. The Phillies ARE the most pathetic franchise in all of sports. :) The Cubs are just more pathetic in the modern era.

I can agree with that

[Aphex Twin]

My what a difference a foul tip makes...Loney ticking that last swing was the difference. He doesn't tick that ball, he's out on strikes, and it's a whole different game.

You do realize that games in baseball are often decided on a single swing of the bat, right? :)

[rocketsauce]

You do realize that games in baseball are often decided on a single swing of the bat, right? :)

-Signed,

Jim Thome

[davidh777]

You might even call baseball "a game of inches"

[dsa_shea]

The Cubs fans at last night's game definitely were not the fans that have been there all year. There were no boisterous drunks or sign waving maniacs. I told a friend of mine, who happens to be a Cubs fan, that the reason that I don't like the Cubs is because a lot of their fans are obnoxious drunks. He said that he thinks the same of Cardinal fans. I don't think so.

[nevermind]

I wouldn't blame Z for losing his shit now.

Absolutely fucking ridiculous.

[bunkaroo]

Wow that's some ugly D so far.

[nevermind]

If they are going to stay in this game, Z will have to have 20+ Ks

[damn_skippy]

:lol:

[fumanstan]

Martin and Furcal :banana:

Cubs defense :up:

[Canadian Bacon]

Completely
Useless while
Being
Swept

[DaveWadding]

Can the Cubs make some plays that Little Leaguers would make? Please?

[nevermind]

Completely
Useless while
Being
Swept

acronym fail.
try again.

[nevermind]

thank god we have Fukudome in there for defense!

[dsa_shea]

Completely
Useless
Beyond
September
?

[Canadian Bacon]

Completely
Useless
Beyond
September
?

that works too ;)

[nevermind]

Completely
Useless
Beyond
September
?

That works.

[damn_skippy]

honestly there is way to much game left for dodger fans to get comfortable.

[nickdawgy]

Completely
Useless
Bears
Substitute
?

[nevermind]

honestly there is way to much game left for dodger fans to get comfortable.
have you noticed the Cubs offense is already golfing?

[nevermind]

and the defense is just absolute shit.

laughable, really.

[damn_skippy]

uh oh

[bunkaroo]

Ouch - Manny being Manny.

[fumanstan]

Manny :banana:

[nickdawgy]

If (when?) the Angels falter this year, I am all for the Dodgers winning it all.

[chino77]

i think i am done with the cubs. i really cant take this anymore. really what the fuck is going on?!?!? last night they were bad. tonight they are awful.

[rabbit77]

drink every time manny takes off his helmet.

[Mad Dawg]

Did they just catch Torre dozing off? I mean, not that I blame him.

[damn_skippy]

10-1 gotta love that. Go dodgers.

[DaveWadding]

God hates the Cubs.

[movielib]

Cubs one game away from a full century of futility. :lol:

[damn_skippy]

God doesn't hate the cubs he hates cubs fans.


Plus they were just on the SI cover and they had a huge article about them. Sept 29th

[Setzer]

If (when?) the Angels falter this year, I am all for the Dodgers winning it all.

Fuck the Dodgers! Go Rays!! :D

[Setzer]

The city of Chicago is on suicide watch.

[mostaccioli]

God doesn't hate the cubs he hates cubs fans.


Plus they were just on the SI cover and they had a huge article about them. Sept 29th

you saved me to the punch. what's a bummer is that this cub team is signed for many years with no trade contracts.

[mostaccioli]

thank god we have Fukudome in there for defense!
that's right he was a 2008 all-star.

[Aphex Twin]

I feel a little bad for the Cubs fans that were hugely disappointed and upset, but there were way too many fans that were booing most of the game.

[Setzer]

I feel a little bad for the Cubs fans that were hugely disappointed and upset, but there were way too many fans that were booing most of the game.

Cubs played sloppy....4 errors that lead to 5 unearned runs. I'd be booing too.

[nevermind]

Cubs played sloppy....4 errors that lead to 5 unearned runs. I'd be booing too.
not to mention an entire offense doing an October A-rod impression for the second year in a row.

I agree, what the hell was there to cheer about after the first inning?

[slymer]

Booing your home team is lame

[fumanstan]

It's funny because earlier I think Tony Gwynn was saying how great Cubs fans were for not booing their team.

[WCChiCubsFan]

This has certainly been a disappointing series. I realistically can't see how they won't be swept at this point.

I find it interesting that year after year the teams with the best record in their league perform so poorly in the playoffs. That is certainly not something that is limited to the Cubs has it seems to happen all the time.

[acubfaninmd]

The city of Chicago is on suicide watch.

im on suicide watch in md

[acubfaninmd]

Fukudome sucks
Lee sucks
Ramirez sucks
this whole team sucks in the playoffs
Fire Lou and blow this hole team up.
Maybe its Wrigley Field and they might as well blow that up as well.

Now that Im off my rant if they can somehow win game 3 they might get some momentum. They have Harden going Saturday and Lily Sunday if they win. I have more confidence in them then Z and Dempster.

I dont think they should re sign demspter this off season go after CC and throw all their money his way.

[tofferman]

After losing the first game to the Dodgers, it seemed like the Cubs were pressing last night. Four errors later and a non-existent offense so far in this series would indicate so.

[acubfaninmd]

Booing your home team is lame

YOur lame and for once I hate to say it but lopez was right the fans should be booing this sorry ass team. With the fielding errors and not being able to score runs BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You Cubssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[Aphex Twin]

not to mention an entire offense doing an October A-rod impression for the second year in a row.

I agree, what the hell was there to cheer about after the first inning?


You get booed in your home field, how are you supposed to feel? How about cheering them on so that they regain some confidence and try to give you more to cheer about? Cubs fans need to relax and try to have some fun. I didn't see too many people enjoying themselves at Wrigley. There is always next year.

http://i33.tinypic.com/adhmwz.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2wn0ens.jpg

[Aphex Twin]

This has certainly been a disappointing series. I realistically can't see how they won't be swept at this point.

I find it interesting that year after year the teams with the best record in their league perform so poorly in the playoffs. That is certainly not something that is limited to the Cubs has it seems to happen all the time.

Those teams have above average to good 4-5 pitchers and good health throughout the regular season.

[wm lopez]

Fukudome sucks
Lee sucks
Ramirez sucks
this whole team sucks in the playoffs
Fire Lou and blow this hole team up.
Maybe its Wrigley Field and they might as well blow that up as well.

Now that Im off my rant if they can somehow win game 3 they might get some momentum. They have Harden going Saturday and Lily Sunday if they win. I have more confidence in them then Z and Dempster.

I dont think they should re sign demspter this off season go after CC and throw all their money his way.
You left off one very important name.
Cub GM Jim Hendry who put this high priced team together and just gave Lou a contract extention without waiting to see how he manages in the playoffs.

[wm lopez]

[QUOTE=Aphex Twin;8981477]You get booed in your home field, how are you supposed to feel? How about cheering them on so that they regain some confidence and try to give you more to cheer about? Cubs fans need to relax and try to have some fun. I didn't see too many people enjoying themselves at Wrigley. There is always next year.

Yes!, next year with new ownership.
And hopefully will fire Jim Hendry.

[wm lopez]

YOur lame and for once I hate to say it but lopez was right the fans should be booing this sorry ass team. With the fielding errors and not being able to score runs BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You Cubssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Here's the thing here in Chicago.
Up until 2003 the Cub fans would cheer no matter what.
I remember a year not too long ago the Cubs had a bad year and it was the last game of the year and the fans are cheering the last out of the game like it ment something. After 2003 when national t.v. showed Cub fans crying on t.v. and then the White Sox won the World Series the Cub fans stood up and started booing Cub players. Like even today there is this hatered for Dusty Baker. On Dusty's 1st trip to Wrigley Cub Gm Jim Hendry said that the Cub fans would give him a warm welcome. They didn't! They booed the crap out of him. Cub fans have been the butt of a lot of jokes in the past , but no more. I have mentioned this and posted newspaper articals to educate some of you. Cub fans are no longer the same kool-aid Cub fans of the past.
This year in Chicago we have had cub fans arrested for beating up a Sox fan and killing another Cub fan.

[damn_skippy]

Where are deftones and El Scorcho and there lame misplaced dodger hatred. Usually they add so much to these threads with their "witty" comments.

[Deftones]

Where are deftones and El Scorcho and there lame misplaced dodger hatred. Usually they add so much to these threads with their "witty" comments.

misplaced? El Scorcho is a Giants fan and I'm a Dbacks fan. Kind of hard for it to be misplaced hatred when your team is a fucking division rival to our teams, genius. :lol:

I'm not posting because I've been only able to watch about 10 minutes of any of the games, combined. I'll be here to post in the NLDS when your team is likely to get beatdown. ;)

[El Scorcho]

my hate will come out after the dodgers beat the cubs and the phillies shove a proverbial cock in their proverbial ass

[damn_skippy]

No i was just waiting to draw you guys out and Give you a big ol


GO DODGERS

http://bp0.blogger.com/_jLfUyEuMrHk/RgEoaPN1rbI/AAAAAAAAAPE/hnzQHzNTfwo/s320/LA+Dodgers+Logo.gif


EAT IT BITCHES

[Deftones]

meh, my team has been more successful in the past ten years than yours has. call me when you guys win a WS and a few more division titles. :shrug:

[damn_skippy]

misplaced? El Scorcho is a Giants fan and I'm a Dbacks fan. Kind of hard for it to be misplaced hatred when your team is a fucking division rival to our teams, genius. :lol:

I'm not posting because I've been only able to watch about 10 minutes of any of the games, combined. I'll be here to post in the NLDS when your team is likely to get beatdown. ;)

meh, my team has been more successful in the past ten years than yours has. call me when you guys win a WS and a few more division titles.


Living in the past a little are we. http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/smiles/smiles_407.gif


Deftones where did the dbacks decide to start their off season vacations at?

[damn_skippy]

my hate will come out after the dodgers beat the cubs and the phillies shove a proverbial cock in their proverbial ass



No offense but you shouldn't even be allowed to comment on anything. Your teams have been taking it up the ass for years. How can you comment on any team that made it to the playoffs. Your teams are so bad they cant even spell playoffs.

[Setzer]

my hate will come out after the dodgers beat the cubs and the phillies shove a proverbial cock in their proverbial ass

:lol: :up:

[Deftones]

Living in the past a little are we. http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/smiles/smiles_407.gif


Deftones where did the dbacks decide to start their off season vacations at?

No, not really living in the past. Just pointing out the obvious, which you've been unable to grasp. I love how the Dodgers have one year of slightly above mediocre baseball and you come out and think this is like cause for celebration. You still have a fuckton of dead weight on your team (Schmidt, Jones, Pierre) and are going to be paying for it for a while. Enjoy the ever so brief taste of the postseason. :up:

I think most of them stuck around town to play golf, since the weather is nice. :up:

[Deftones]

No offense but you shouldn't even be allowed to comment on anything. Your teams have been taking it up the ass for years. How can you comment on any team that made it to the playoffs. Your teams are so bad they cant even spell playoffs.

I seem to remember his Giants team making it to the world series not so long ago. How's that working out for the Dodgers?

[Aphex Twin]

I seem to remember his Giants team making it to the world series not so long ago. How's that working out for the Dodgers?


The Giants celebrate World Series appearances. The Dodgers celebrate World Series rings. How many rings does SF have?

[Deftones]

The Giants celebrate World Series appearances. The Dodgers celebrate World Series rings. How many rings does SF have?

5. Dodgers have 6. OMG such a huge difference!!!!!!

[damn_skippy]

The last time the Giants won was in 1954 so is that even relevant?


The dodgers have been above mediocre for awhile.

[Deftones]

Last one the giants got was in 54 so STFU


dodgers have been above mediocre for awhile. It just hard for you to understand that with you brain being fried by the AZ heat.


wait, i thought you weren't living in the past. which is it? you are or your aren't?

i know "above mediocre" is something LA fans can be excited about.

[damn_skippy]

wait, i thought you weren't living in the past. which is it? you are or your aren't?

i know "above mediocre" is something LA fans can be excited about.



:lol:

I cant even respond to how stupid this is. Enjoy the series. Next time I'm in phoenix i'll be sure to give all the dback fans a taste of their own medicine.

[Deftones]

:lol:

I cant even respond to how stupid this is. Enjoy the series and next time i phoenix i'll be sure to give all the AZ fans a taste of their own medicine.


yes stupid. i bring up past Dbacks success. You say don't live in the past. Then someone brings up Dodger vs. Giants championships, i point out the similarities, and you say the Giants haven't won one in xxx amount of years. That's pure comedy right there.

As for that last statement, i have absolutely no idea what that means since it was apparently written by a child, and not such an educated individual such as yourself.

[El Scorcho]

PS the giants have more wins the last 10 years than the dodgers including three divisional titles (to the dodgers 1) and 1 NL title (to the dodgers 0). by contrast the d-backs have 3 division titles and 1 WS title in that same time

just fyi

but i know your common response will be to jerk yourself off over a couple titles 20 and 27 years ago like that has any relevance whatsoever, so whatever dude

congrats on being above mediocre :lol:

[Deftones]

High five, guys! We're above mediocre this year!

[damn_skippy]

No The Dodgers have been absolutely horrible in the postseason for the last 20 years(only 1 win). Completely dog shit.


IMO What is stupid is that deftones compares how many WS the giants have won but fails to mention that the last one the giants have won was over 54 years ago. Instead of saying "yeah the dodgers got us this year. They were the better team. The dbacks will get em next year". The first thing he said was well in the past 10 years we have done this, this, and this blah, blah, blah. Which is pathetic and kind of a cop out.

IMO if you talk shit all year. Which is your god given right. (And i do it also.) That's just being a fan. Atleast be able to take a little ribbing like a man and dont be a fucking little bitch about it and say how well you have done in the past.

GO DODGERS
http://www.thesportsbros.com/images/categories/MLB_Dodgers.gif

[damn_skippy]

For all the other cub fans and Dodger fans this series is a long way from being over. This is the first time the dodgers have challenged anybody in a series for over 20 years and they still need to finish em off which is the toughest thing to do.

[Deftones]

i love the reading comprehension skills exhibited here. :lol:

[The Cow]

Meh, it's all a scripted anyway, just like the NBA ;)

Manny vs. Red Sox in the World Series.

[damn_skippy]

Meh, it's all a scripted anyway, just like the NBA ;)

Manny vs. Red Sox in the World Series.



Ahhh that would be great. But how does it end??

[The Cow]

Ahhh that would be great. But how does it end??

The world explodes (or get's sucked into a black hole) right at the first pitch. Something caused by that Large Hadron Collider thing. Some aliens far away that are watching just chuckle.

[El Scorcho]

No offense but you shouldn't even be allowed to comment on anything. Your teams have been taking it up the ass for years.


I get two guys who talk shit on the dodgers all year and now its time for them to eat a little crow and they bring up how well there teams did in the past. The 2002 giants team don't count boys neither does the 2001 dbacks team.

I'm all for playful ribbing but you really need to figure out your own arguments in your own head first. Either things in the past matter or they don't, but you can't play both sides.

[Deftones]

not sure why we bother arguing. clearly he can't see the flaws in his own arguments. :lol:

[damn_skippy]

I'm done with you two. I'd rather just get back to the point of the thread than arguing with you guys. I enjoy the ribbing and talking shit. Sometimes it's better just to call it quits. It just seems like if my teams lose i concede defeat congratulate the other team and move on. You two are a different story though. You cant just say good season see you next year. So I'm kinda over it.

[El Scorcho]

I'm done with you two. I'd rather just get back to the point of the thread than arguing with you guys. I enjoy the ribbing and talking shit. Sometimes it's better just to call it quits. It just seems like if my teams lose i concede defeat congratulate the other team and move on. You two are a different story though. You cant just say good season see you next year. So I'm kinda over it.

:lol:

Intentionally bait us in then give up and act like you're taking the high road when we point out the flaws in your ridiculous smack talk.

FWIW I have no problems congratulating dodger fans that don't behave like douches.

[damn_skippy]

Not at all but you two do this with every LA team. Honestly i'm sorry i brought it up. I know you love to argue just for the sake of arguing. That's why i stay out of the Laker threads now.

I mean it's easy to say how good your teams were and the history of the teams but does that matter in these playoffs? I only wanted to poke you guys a little just to have fun not drop a bombs But forget it, it's just not worth it anymore.


Honestly el scorcho besides the 02 season i cant remember when the giants had a winning season. Maybe i just used to smoke way too much weed but i just cant remember. The mariners haven't they been shitty for years?(i typed this without looking up stats)


I have to respect the dbacks because there always in it and will be for awhile. I just dont respect AZ fans. (only because i travel to phoenix on buisness way to much.) There all transplants from everywhere else and they all talk out there ass way to much.

Say what you want about me but I always give credit where credit is do.

[fumanstan]

No offense as a fellow LA sports team fan, but this was a very odd fight for you to pick :shrug:

[damn_skippy]

No offense as a fellow LA sports team fan, but this was a very odd fight for you to pick :shrug:


:lol:

I honestly wasn't trying to pick a fight, just rib em a little bit with a ;). With all the shit we take from them. I figured they would have to give the dodgers their due. Alas I should have known better. I edited my posts to make more sense for deftones benefit. Arguing with them is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. After awhile you just have to realize that the pig enjoys it.

[damn_skippy]

Back to the buisness at hand


http://msn.foxsports.com/fe/img/MLB/TeamLogo/Medium/19.gif
pitcher
Kuroda (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/player?statsId=8167)

VS.

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pitcher
Harden (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/player?statsId=7180)


At Chavez Ravine

10/04, 10:05 p.m(ET).

[nickdawgy]

Go Dodgers. Unlike most Angels fans, I would like to see the Dodgers do well.

[damn_skippy]

I just hope the dodgers finish this series strong and quick.

[Aphex Twin]

5. Dodgers have 6. OMG such a huge difference!!!!!!

No, the answer is 0. SF has ZERO World Series wins.

[Deftones]

:lol:

Intentionally bait us in then give up and act like you're taking the high road when we point out the flaws in your ridiculous smack talk.

FWIW I have no problems congratulating dodger fans that don't behave like douches.

pretty much spot on. had you not said anything specifically to us we'd continued on not talking about the dodgers.

[Deftones]

I just dont respect AZ fans. (only because i travel to phoenix on buisness way to much.) There all transplants from everywhere else and they all talk out there ass way to much.

This is a contradictory statement. AZ transplants aren't DBacks fans. They are fans of the teams from their original home state.

It's funny because nobody here respects Dodgers fans. You pretty much exhibited typical behavior why this is.

[Arpeggi]

It's funny because nobody here respects Dodgers fans.

It's funny because no one outside of Arizona cares about what people in Arizona think.

[Deftones]

It's funny because no one outside of Arizona cares about what people in Arizona think.

so then why do you post here?

[Arpeggi]

so then why do you post here?

so then why do you post here?

[Deftones]

so then why do you post here?
i posted in here, specifically, because my name was mentioned. i haven't posted here much because i haven't watched much of the playoffs. the better question is why are you just now showing up to support your team? you fell off the face of the earth in the MLB threads when the Dodgers were mediocre midway through the season.

[GuessWho]

so then why is an AZ senator running for president?

[Setzer]

Go Dodgers. Unlike most Angels fans, I would like to see the Dodgers do well.

The only way I'm going to root for the Dodgers is if they play Boston in the World Series because my hate for Boston exceeds my hate for the Dodgers. I probably won't even watch it if it's those 2 teams.

[fumanstan]

This is a contradictory statement. AZ transplants aren't DBacks fans. They are fans of the teams from their original home state.

It's funny because nobody here respects Dodgers fans. You pretty much exhibited typical behavior why this is.

Ugh, like being some nut like so many Red Sox or Yankees fans are so much better -ohbfrank-

[Deftones]

Ugh, like being some nut like so many Red Sex or Yankees fans are so much better -ohbfrank-

they at least have the respect for the game to show up on time and leave when it's over, not during the 7th inning. ;)

[acubfaninmd]

I see Harden pitching a good game. I predict 7 IP 1 ER 4 H 8 K and cubs win 6-1.

[starman9000]

Ugh, like being some nut like so many Red Sex or Yankees fans are so much better -ohbfrank-

:eyebrow:

[fumanstan]

they at least have the respect for the game to show up on time and leave when it's over, not during the 7th inning. ;)

Yeah, I knew you were referring to that old spiel. I don't really give a shit if people have better things to do in their lives then watch sports around here, and it's not like everyone here does that anyway. In fact, i'm starting to enjoy it much more then the craziness in Boston or something where sports seem to revolve around some fans lives. Like Manny said in that Bill Simmons article to the LA Times, "Baseball in Boston is like a Sunday football game, but played every day. We lose in L.A., I go to breakfast and people say, 'Well, you'll get them tomorrow.' In Boston, it's 'Hey, what's going on, the Yankees are coming.' It's just a different atmosphere. The fans in Boston got your back no matter what, but I'm talking about the people who write all this bull because it means so much to them. If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." :) If that's what "respect" is, then fuck that! Seeing some of those Boston Globe articles are just as bad as the celebrity gossip you get here.

:eyebrow:

Must have been a Freudian slip :lol:

[fumanstan]

Yikes, close play at 3rd.

[fumanstan]

Loney :up:

[lordwow]

Could the Cubs be any worse?

[gmanca]

As an A's fan, all I can say is that I sympathize that Harden is getting hit. That guy cracks under pressure and he's been casually "injured" for his entire career.

[Sorraffy]

Scoring first was a great start, especially when you're playing at home

[fumanstan]

Dang, just missed by Ethier. Come on Loney.

[fumanstan]

RBI Double for Martin :up:

[fumanstan]

Dodgers :banana:

[zekeburger1979]

100 seasons and counting.

Wait till next year....

:(

[tofferman]

Well, that was an underwhelming series. Congrats to the Dodgers. As for the Cubs, this performance in the division series makes me wonder how they were able to secure the best record in the National League.

I suppose someone in this forum can get a head start in creating their "Cubs march towards a championship in 2009 thread."

[Drexl]

Great job, Dodgers. :)

[JumpCutz]

Great job, Cubs. :lol:

[The Cow]

Did this surprise <i>anyone</i>?

Didn't think so, but just checking...

[fumanstan]

Felt bad that Soriano did so bad, as I always liked him.

[wm lopez]

Felt bad that Soriano did so bad, as I always liked him.
You like that he's able to say where he can bat in the batting order?
Or his street sissy hop before he catches the ball?
Or his fly balls that hit the wall that he has to run hard to 2nd base because he's posing at the plate?
Good news because he's going to around for a while with the Cubs unless he gets booed so much in 2009 that he will wave his no-trade clause.

[fumanstan]

You like that he's able to say where he can bat in the batting order?
Or his street sissy hop before he catches the ball?
Or his fly balls that hit the wall that he has to run hard to 2nd base because he's posing at the plate?
Good news because he's going to around for a while with the Cubs unless he gets booed so much in 2009 that he will wave his no-trade clause.

Street sissy hop? :lol: I just liked him since he was a Yankee. Nothing really more to it, I just enjoyed watching him at bat.

To be fair, none of those things are annoying as some of the posts i've seen from you :)

[Deftones]

what the hell is up with the Cubs. Score runs at will during the season, but can't muster up any in the playoffs in the past two years.

[wm lopez]

Street sissy hop? :lol: I just liked him since he was a Yankee. Nothing really more to it, I just enjoyed watching him at bat.

To be fair, none of those things are annoying as some of the posts i've seen from you :)

Well, were they the ones about the new Cub fans?
Or that the Cubs beating the PIRATES & REDS and padding player stats doesn't make a championship team?

For 2 days the media have been saying Zambrano pitched a good playoff game.
When did giving up 3 runs in 6 innings a good outing in baseball?
That kind of E.R.A. is not good.
And it's crap b.s. stuff like that I point out and pisses people off.

[Tarantino]

Actually, it's just you in general that pisses people off.

= J

[Rogue588]

Yeah, I knew you were referring to that old spiel. I don't really give a shit if people have better things to do in their lives then watch sports around here, and it's not like everyone here does that anyway. In fact, i'm starting to enjoy it much more then the craziness in Boston or something where sports seem to revolve around some fans lives. Like Manny said in that Bill Simmons article to the LA Times, "Baseball in Boston is like a Sunday football game, but played every day. We lose in L.A., I go to breakfast and people say, 'Well, you'll get them tomorrow.' In Boston, it's 'Hey, what's going on, the Yankees are coming.' It's just a different atmosphere. The fans in Boston got your back no matter what, but I'm talking about the people who write all this bull because it means so much to them. If your happiness depends on Boston winning or losing, you have to get a life." :) If that's what "respect" is, then fuck that! Seeing some of those Boston Globe articles are just as bad as the celebrity gossip you get here.I agree with the "craziness" around here, but this is the same Manny that did what he did to get out of Boston. Way ta play the game! Guess it's okay though, cuz now he has a life? Wonder what he and Bora$ have up their sleeves during the offseason..

Anyways..

Congrats to Joe, Donnie Baseball, Larry and Scott. :up:

And congrats to Dodgers fans. :beer:

[The Cow]

Actually, it's just you in general that pisses people off.

= J

Yeah, kinda. I don't think he pisses anyone off.

It's more like a "What the hell are you talking about. Do you ever read or think about what you post or are responding to" kinda thing. Basically, "WTF", and then just find humor.

[The Cow]

Or that the Cubs beating the PIRATES & REDS and padding player stats doesn't make a championship team?


Cubs were 8-7 vs the Reds. Padding?

Do you ever know what the fuck you are talking about. No.

[wm lopez]

Cubs were 8-7 vs the Reds. Padding?

Do you ever know what the fuck you are talking about. No.
The REDS didn't shut out the Cubs in those games.
My point is that the Cubs played teams in their weak division around 18 per team while playing 6 teams from other divisions.

[wm lopez]

Yeah, kinda. I don't think he pisses anyone off.

It's more like a "What the hell are you talking about. Do you ever read or think about what you post or are responding to" kinda thing. Basically, "WTF", and then just find humor.
Yeah, I was so wrong this year on the Cubs.:blush:

[The Cow]

The REDS didn't shut out the Cubs in those games.

Oh no! The Reds didn't shut out the Cubs in the 7 out of 15 games that they won! -eek-

So we have gone from "padding by playing the Reds" to "the Reds didn't shut them out".

Brilliant!

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/JRamptastic/brilliant.jpg

[DaveWadding]

For 2 days the media have been saying Zambrano pitched a good playoff game.
When did giving up 3 runs in 6 innings a good outing in baseball?
That kind of E.R.A. is not good.


Since 1985, when the Quality Start statistic was invented?

In baseball statistics, a quality start is awarded to a starting pitcher who completes at least six innings and permits no more than three earned runs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_start

[Al Padrino]

Quit feeding Lopez. Guy hates the Cubs and loves to grasp at straws to cut any aspect of the franchise down. I will say, though...

Or his street sissy hop before he catches the ball?

It's been said many times the hop forces him to concentrate. He was missing a lot of flyballs when he converted to the outfield and adding the hop improved his focus. It's silly, but whatever works. He's not doing it to show off. I figured you, the guy who loves to bring all us peons the happenings from Chicago, would have heard that already.

[El Scorcho]

Cubs have scored 12 runs in their last 6 playoff games (0-6) while giving up 36.

[RayChuang]

I think the problem with the Cubs comes down to this: they have the wrong manager.

Lou Piniella's "wound up" personality just didn't cut it this season or last season when everything was on the line. As such, the team played really "tight" and that resulted in sub-par performances in the playoffs.

Compare this with Terry Francona and Ozzie Guillèn, two managers that got their teams to win the World Series after many decades of futility. Franconca did it with his calm demeanor (very necessary to deal with the enormous psychological baggage of the "Curse of the Bambino") and Guillèn did it by just being oblivious to whatever curse there was on the White Sox.

In short, the Cubs need a manager that either can deal with overcoming the teams' penchant of losing or just be oblivious to the whole curse thing in the first place.

[SpaceBoy]

I just wanted to come in say, who didn't see this coming?

I was astounded by the number of analysts calling for a Cubs Vs Red Sox WS. Sure in your dreams or a Disney movie that sounds great, but it takes two teams that no how to get the job done to setup that matchup. Everybody knows the cubs feel such relief just making the playoffs, that they think they will automatically win as soon as they realize they're in Oct baseball - forgetting you have to win there too..

I actually am starting to feel bad for my friends who are cubs fans, because they get fooled into thinking this is the year, year after year. My one friend in Chicago told me they even built a sign or something saying as much this year..

Unreal.

I would love to see a Dodgers Vs Sox series. Imagine Manny gets a ring either way, plus a playoff share from each team. That would be unheard of I have to imagine.

[starman9000]

Unreal.

I would love to see a Dodgers Vs Sox series. Imagine Manny gets a ring either way, plus a playoff share from each team. That would be unheard of I have to imagine.

I forget how that works, does the team vote on who to give rings/shares too, or is it automatic based on games played or something?

[classicman2]

I may be alone in this evaluation, but I thought the Cubs played very well in the series against the Dodgers.

[mostaccioli]

Since 1985, when the Quality Start statistic was invented?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_start

that's a 4.50 era! and that's quality.

[mostaccioli]

I think the problem with the Cubs comes down to this: they have the wrong manager.

Lou Piniella's "wound up" personality just didn't cut it this season or last season when everything was on the line. As such, the team played really "tight" and that resulted in sub-par performances in the playoffs.

Compare this with Terry Francona and Ozzie Guillèn, two managers that got their teams to win the World Series after many decades of futility. Franconca did it with his calm demeanor (very necessary to deal with the enormous psychological baggage of the "Curse of the Bambino") and Guillèn did it by just being oblivious to whatever curse there was on the White Sox.

In short, the Cubs need a manager that either can deal with overcoming the teams' penchant of losing or just be oblivious to the whole curse thing in the first place.

didn't they give him a contract ex. just as the playoffs started?

[Dave7393]

that's a 4.50 era! and that's quality.

Remember that we're in an era where many starters would be lucky to pitch six complete, so it's a much more telling stat today than it was twenty years ago.

It's not the eighties, the seventies, and certainly not the sixties anymore.

[movielib]

that's a 4.50 era! and that's quality.
Sure, a 4.50 ERA is not so great over the course of a season. But it keeps a team in a game and gives them a chance to win. And it's a maximum number of runs and a minimum number of innings. Anything better is also a quality start. I think it's a reasonable statistic.

[classicman2]

Why is it that we don't see the 'Bob Gibson type' of ERAs anymore?

[starman9000]

I may be alone in this evaluation, but I thought the Cubs played very well in the series against the Dodgers.

By what measure?

[dsa_shea]

I'd be happy to see the Red Sox go home next. It is time for some new blood and the fans in Boston don't really need anything else to go crazy about. They were spoiled a few years ago.

[chrisih8u]

I may be alone in this evaluation, but I thought the Cubs played very well in the series against the Dodgers.

Yes, you are alone.

BA .246
OPS .650

ERA 6.00
BAA .270

Errors 5

[bunkaroo]

Actually it was 6 errors.

[chrisih8u]

You're right. So to say that they played "very well" is about as far off as you can be with baseball analysis.

I feel bad for Cubs fans. I imagine they feel like I felt after 2003 ALCS. Their fans have had a laid back reputation, but I think that's a thing of the past. They are desperate for a win.

[fumanstan]

I feel bad for Cubs fans too. I was explaining to my girlfriend last night about baseball since she doesn't know a lick about the game, and how the Dodgers haven't won the WS in 20 years and then mentioned that the Cubs haven't won in 100. She said the Dodgers should just let the Cubs win :lol:

[classicman2]

I see some of our members fail to detect when someone is obviously being facetious.

They'd fit right in the politics forum. ;)

[Al Padrino]

Lou's a tight manager? Really? Have you paid attention the last two years or are you basing everything you "know" about him on his work in Cincy and Seattle? He had that blow-up last year, but outside of that, hasn't had any incidents or any post-game melt downs.

[starman9000]

I see some of our members fail to detect when someone is obviously being facetious.



:mad2:You dirty bastard!

:)

[SpaceBoy]

I forget how that works, does the team vote on who to give rings/shares too, or is it automatic based on games played or something?

I read that the ring is automatic, the share is voted on by the team.

However in the past, in '04 they gave Nomar a .5 share. You would think the same would hold true with Manny.

Either way, he would be a lock for the ring - maybe that would work to the red sox's advantage ha

[Spicollidriver1]

For 2 days the media have been saying Zambrano pitched a good playoff game.
When did giving up 3 runs in 6 innings a good outing in baseball?
That kind of E.R.A. is not good.
And it's crap b.s. stuff like that I point out and pisses people off.

Actually the standards for a good outing by a starting pitcher has really gone down. That is a tirade that Starman and I have to hear very often around here since Blyleven brings it up like every other game

[Dave7393]

Why is it that we don't see the 'Bob Gibson type' of ERAs anymore?

Other than his insane 1968 season (1.12), most of the time his ERA was right around 3.00, give or take. There are still guys who can pitch full seasons and repeatedly get mid-2 ERAs (Santana), but in general, pitchers don't pitch nearly as many innings per start, or innings per season: Gibson averaged over 260 innings/season, wihle Santana averages around 212.

If you have a great pitcher, let him pitch more innings, and his ERA will go down-- but throw in today's pitch counts and relief "specialists," and they just don't get that chance.

[RayChuang]

Lou's a tight manager? Really? Have you paid attention the last two years or are you basing everything you "know" about him on his work in Cincy and Seattle? He had that blow-up last year, but outside of that, hasn't had any incidents or any post-game melt downs.

You do remember 2001 season, when the Mariners had over 110 wins in the regular season and still lost to the Yankees in the AL Championship Series? That was a Piniella-managed team, a team loaded with a lot a great players.

This failure demonstrates that the Cubs need the type of manager I suggested.

[wm lopez]

If anybody caught Monday's PTI I agree with everything Micheal Wilbon said about the Cubs except the part on Jim Hendry doing a great job.

[WCChiCubsFan]

I just got my internet back up and running again last night so I thought I would just come in and congratulate the Dodgers on their win.

As for the Cubs it was disappointing to see them play so poorly and give away runs the way they did in the series.

They have a lot of issues to address in the off season so it should be interesting to see the moves they make.

[wm lopez]

Anybody hear Vin Scully's play by play as the Dodgers won the 3rd game?
It was so beautiful the way his voice and words came together.
A Hollywood movie writer couldn't not have written this stuff as good.
This guy is a true baseball gem.