So, who'll go 0-16 this year in the NFL?

[Tarantino]

Right now, there are a few winless teams in the NFL. Who do you think has the potential to go 0-16?

= J

[Spicollidriver1]

none

[The Cow]

None.

[twikoff]

none
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[Canadian Bacon]

http://images.footballfanatics.com/productImages/_81000/FF_81407_s.jpg

[Quake1028]

No one ever will again, IMO.

[Arpeggi]

None. Ridiculous thread.

[Red Dog]

Nobody. Close it.

[Quack]

I voted for Kansas City.....I think they'll have a horrible season, but squeak out a win here or there.

[jonw9]

http://images.footballfanatics.com/productImages/_81000/FF_81407_s.jpg

That is my vote, but i am sure they will screw that up too! :lol:

[Tarantino]

None. Ridiculous thread.

Nobody. Close it.

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I guess we'll see. I'm sure if someone said the same thing last year regarding if any team would go 16-0, they would have gotten the same type of responses.

I voted for the Chiefs, with their dismal passing game and horrible O-line.

= J

[Red Dog]

Going 16-0 is far far harder than going 0-16.

If some team gets to 0-10 or so, then resurrect this thread, and we'll talk.

[Shamus McAnally]

I'm just happy that BOTH of my teams are on the list.

Although as JonW9 said, the Lions will screw that up. (As will the Browns.)

[cardsfan111]

Hey...where's the option for none? I can't vote. :(

[fumanstan]

None.

[B.A.]

I really hope the Rams do it.

[DaveWadding]

The Rams will. Miserable bunch of bastards.

[Jam Master Jay]

The Lions, I have been watching them since 1989 and this year's team by far the worst of them all, and with Kitna hurt they got alot worse....if that's even possible.

[B5Erik]

I remember the 'Aints from the early 80's, and they managed to win a game to go 1-15.

None of these teams are THAT bad.

None of them will go 0-16. Although maybe if the Lions did Matt Millen would FINALLY get fired...

[Goat3001]

Maybe the thread title should read "Which team is most likely to go 0-16."

If I had to choose the team that could do it, it would be KC. They've been dominated all three games they've played. At least the Rams can say they lost to two good teams.

[Brian Shannon]

None

[Tarantino]

Maybe the thread title should read "Which team is most likely to go 0-16."

That's what the poll is titled.

= J

[Daryl]

with Kitna hurt they got alot worse....if that's even possible.

Kitna's been brutal, so this is addition by subtraction. Lions will win a couple because they have some skilled offensive players who will overcome the awful playcalling. I'm not so sure about the Chiefs, especially when LJ inevitably shuts it down with a mysterious leg injury after they start out 0-8 or so

[gmal2003]

No one. Its just doesnt happen. As for the worst record in football... the Rams have my vote.

[B5Erik]

No one. Its just doesnt happen. As for the worst record in football... the Rams have my vote.
It's a shame they don't play the Lions this year. ;)

[jonw9]

None of them will go 0-16. Although maybe if the Lions did Matt Millen would FINALLY get fired...

I heard Ford Field is no longer selling out, so the fans are beginning to catch on, but this is probably for another thread.

[Maxflier]

No one.

[amplified]

Ok...now who voted for the Chargers? :rolleyes:

Let's not get carried away here by including them in the poll :banned:

[Ginwen]

I hope for and expect the St Louis Lambs to have the worst record, but they'll probably win at least a game.

[El Scorcho]

My vote is for The Swami

[Tarantino]

The Chargers find themselves off of the winless wagon...1 down!

= J

[lordwow]

I'm sticking with the Bengals. They really have nothing going for them.

[ESUguy]

I'm a Chief's fan, but I can't figure out who the hell they can beat. They've already had their asses handed to the by the Raiders(!) and Falcons(!).

[harrydoyle]

I hope for and expect the St Louis Lambs to have the worst record, but they'll probably win at least a game.Agreed. I'm betting they get out like 2-3 wins, but they will be the worst team. They've looked pretty bad each week.

[Larry C.]

I'm just happy my Dolphins aren't on that list. :)

[nickdawgy]

Tarantino will go 0-16 this year.

[Bluelitespecial]

I'm a Chief's fan, but I can't figure out who the hell they can beat. They've already had their asses handed to the by the Raiders(!) and Falcons(!).

If the Chiefs go 0-16, they will get the number one pick in the draft, and maybe the Hunt family will finally fire Carl Peterson. I don't want to see an 0-16 season but it has a good chance of happening

[ESUguy]

If the Chiefs go 0-16, they will get the number one pick in the draft, and maybe the Hunt family will finally fire Carl Peterson. I don't want to see an 0-16 season but it has a good chance of happening

Yeah, but do you have faith that they won't fuck it up again? 14 years since a single playoff victory is unacceptable.

[Tarantino]

You can scratch the Chiefs and Browns off of the list.

Somehow, the Rams found a way to lose again today.

= J

[Bluelitespecial]

Hard to believe the Chiefs beat Denver, but it was good to see them win today.

[lordwow]

My Bengals making me proud :cool:

[kenbuzz]

Who will go 0-16.... nobody.

Who appears most likely to go 0-16, if you ask me, Cincinnati.
http://forum.go-bengals.com/style_emoticons/default/gobengals.gif

[Red Dog]

Too bad the Lambs don't play the Bungles this year.

The Lambs haven't even come close to covering a spread yet.

[Tarantino]

Looks like the Lions are going to keep the streak alive.

= J

[Tarantino]

Houston has found a way to lose as well, after being up 27-10.

Cincinnati is up next.

= J

[Mad Dawg]

I would've said none until the Rams promoted Haslett. They may not win a game for 2 years now.

[LorenzoL]

It looks like Cincinnati will keep the streak alive.

[lordwow]

I am keeping the champagne chilled for my Bengals. Only 11 weeks to go boys.

[Tarantino]

Cincinnati is officially still winless.

The Lions look the worst out of the winless.

= J

[Mikael79]

I agree - the Lions look the worst. They have a head coach who absolutely knows he won't be back next year, and the players gave up long ago.

[Jam Master Jay]

yeah I have been following the Lions for 19 yrs and I have never seen them this bad. I don't actually think they will go 0-16 though, every one thought Miami was going to last year and Cleo Lemon stepped up for a game for them, maybe someone on the Lions in a contract year with step up and give them at least 1 W, I am thinking they will go 2-14 this year, they are by far the worst in the NFL this year no doubt.

[BravesMG]

The Rams had a bye week, but they are not forgotten. They've got Washington and Dallas the next two weeks, I don't think it's going to get any better for them. Keep in mind, STL is the team that lost 37-13 to SEATTLE.

[Drexl]

The Rams had a bye week, but they are not forgotten. They've got Washington and Dallas the next two weeks, I don't think it's going to get any better for them. Keep in mind, STL is the team that lost 37-13 to SEATTLE.

For the Rams, the NFL's use of a cover of Morrissey's bleak "Every Day is Like Sunday" in commercials actually seems appropriate.

[Quake1028]

Lions by far have the best shot. They are 0-4. Their remaining schedule is:

@ Minny
@ Houston
Washington
@ Chicago
Jax
@ Carolina
Tampa Bay
Tennessee
Minny
@ Indy
New Orleans
@ Green Bay

Seriously, will they be favored in any of those games? I say no. Don't let us down, Detroit.

[starman9000]

MN plays to the competition, so Detroit has a shot against them.

[Goat3001]

Lions by far have the best shot. They are 0-4. Their remaining schedule is:

@ Minny
@ Houston
Washington
@ Chicago
Jax
@ Carolina
Tampa Bay
Tennessee
Minny
@ Indy
New Orleans
@ Green Bay

Seriously, will they be favored in any of those games? I say no. Don't let us down, Detroit.


Their best chance would be their 2 games against Minny. They might get lucky and catch Indy, NO or GB resting starters if any of them are in the playoffs.

[PopcornTreeCt]

My pick is for the Cincinnati Bengals:

@NY Jets (could probably take this game...if it was at home)
Steelers (don't stand a chance)
@Texans (see the Jets game)
Jaguars (don't stand a chance)
Eagles (don't stand a chance)
@Steelers (don't stand a chance)
Ravens (they'll be 0-11 at this point, maybe they'll take it)
@Colts (don't stand a chance)
Redskins (the 'Skins will be fighting NY for the NFC East title -really don't stand a chance)
@Browns (a legit shot to win this game -but likely the underachieving Browns will prove that they aren't the worst team in Ohio)
Chiefs (Chiefs will rally behind rumors of Herm Edwards getting fired)

And there you have it.

[kenbuzz]

Bengals Fight Song:
Lyrics = http://www.bengals.com/fans/fightsong.asp
Tune = http://www.bengals.com/store/bengals.wma

My 2008 Lyrics Update:
Here he come's a limping.... weak and timidly
He's gonna take a whipping... dat's a certainty
An offensive joke. Each game we choke.
And defensively we suck! Yuck!

Cincinnati Bengals...
that's the team we should have moved to Tennessee!
Go front office, call Mayflower up and get some trucks
And move that team from Cincinnati!

[darichestman]

Lions Here Man They Suck.

[lordwow]

I'm most disappointed in all these bandwagon Bengals fans. I remember when I was the only one rooting for them to lose. That's ok, I'll take all the support I can get.

It's tough to be alone at the top, but someone has to be. Right Cinco Ocho?

[vdadlani219]

So we're down to Detroit & Cincinnati.

Neither will win more than 2 games...but Cincinnati has the better chance of going 0-16.

[BravesMG]

I'll send a mea culpa out to the Rams, big win today for them.

[Red Dog]

Just goes to show that anything can happen, and I witnessed anything today.

[kenbuzz]

I'm most disappointed in all these bandwagon Bengals fans. I remember when I was the only one rooting for them to lose. That's ok, I'll take all the support I can get.Heh, back in '05 all the bandwagonners were rooting for us to win. Fickle, fickle people.

[Mikael79]

MN plays to the competition, so Detroit has a shot against them.

Kind of eerie how true this statement turned out to be. :)

[lordwow]

"The essence of being human is that one does not seek perfection.” - George Orwell

Someone should tell the Bengals this, because they are well on their way.

[twikoff]

maybe it will happen
i figured detroit would have a shot at houston
but houston put up quick 14 points in the first qtr

:lol:

[kenbuzz]

My sister is a Chiefs fan (lives in Missouri) and she mailed me a copy of something floating around their boards. When the Chiefs are making fun of you, you're really in the tank:

The Ohio State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Cincinnati. For the first offense, they give you two Bengals tickets. If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.

Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Bengals

Q. What do the Bengals and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell 'Jesus Christ'.

Q. How do you keep a Bengals player out of your yard?
A. Put up goal post.

Q. Where do you go in Cincinnati in case of a tornado?
A. To Paul Brown Stadium-they never get a touchdown there!

Q. What do you call a Bengals player with a Super Bowl ring?
A. A thief.

Q. What's the difference between the Bengals and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. What do the Bengals and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the roadChiefs at Bengals, Sunday 12/28 - Regular Season Finale

I've already circled the date.

[Charlie Goose]

I was so rooting for the Bengals yesterday since I work with a diehard Steelers fan. Would've been sweet to rub his face in Pittsburgh giving Cincinatti their first win. ALAS!

[zekeburger1979]

The Michigan State Police are cracking down on speeders heading into Detroit. For the first offense, they give you two Lions tickets. If you get stopped a second time, they make you use them.

Q. What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Lions

Q. What do the Lions and Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell 'Jesus Christ'.

Q. How do you keep a Lions player out of your yard?
A. Put up a goal post.

Q. Where do you go in Detroit in case of a tornado?
A. To Ford Field-they never get a touchdown there!

Q. What do you call a Lions player with a Super Bowl ring?
A. A thief.

Q. What's the difference between the Lions and a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.

Q. What do the Lions and a possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road


Fixed that for you. :)

[Bluelitespecial]

I am still hoping the Chiefs have a shot at the #1 pick in next year's draft.

[kenbuzz]

I am still hoping the Chiefs have a shot at the #1 pick in next year's draft.Here's how the top 10 picks in next year's draft are lining up, based on the results through week 7:

1: Detroit (0-6) sos=0.475 (19-21)
2: Cincinnati (0-7) sos=0.651 (28-15)
3: Seattle (1-5) sos=0.590 (23-16)
4: Kansas City (1-5) sos=0.658 (25-13)
5: San Francisco (2-5)
6: Oakland (2-4) sos=0.487 (19-20)
7: Miami (2-4) sos=0.514 (19-18)
8: Houston (2-4) sos=0.528 (19-17)
9: Cleveland (2-4) sos=0.564 (22-17)
10: St Louis (2-4) sos=0.605 (23-15)

The draft order is based on the following tiebreakers:
1st - Winning Percentage
2nd - Strength of Schedule
3rd - (If from same division) Division Record
4th - (If from same conference) Conference Record

At each tiebreak level, a LOWER percentage wins the tie. Unresolved ties are broken by coinflip.

The following 2009 first round picks have been involved in trades:

CAROLINA to PHILADELPHIA: The Panthers traded their 2009-1st pick (plus the 43rs and 109th picks in 2008) to the Eagles for the 19th pick, used to select Jeff Otah

DALLAS to DETROIT: The Cowboys traded their 2009-1st, -3rd, and -6th picks to the Lions for Roy Williams and Detroit's 2009-7th.

[PopcornTreeCt]

Since it appears that Palmer has tanked the season. I have faith in the Bengals.

[mostaccioli]

Since it appears that Palmer has tanked the season. I have faith in the Bengals.

that's who i think also will be the team. bengals.

[kenbuzz]

Since it appears that Palmer has tanked the season. I have faith in the Bengals.

Frankly, I'm hoping the Stripes tell him to stop getting 6th and 7th opinions on his elbow injury and just pack it in for the season. Even if he comes back now, the season is lost, and all he'll be doing is risking a more permanent injury. Cut your losses, Cincinnati. Sit Palmer for the year, and let Fitzgerald (in a contract year, no less) do the best he can. Worst case, you put in Palmer's little brother, or you go shopping on the wire - I hear Gus Frerotte is available.

http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/07/medium_orpheus-roye-cleveland-browns-02.jpg

[lordwow]

http://www.artie.com/football/arg-dancing-bengals-orange-url.gif

Wohhhh Ohhhh We're half-way there.

Wohhhh Ohhhh Livin' on a Prayer

[Tarantino]

And the streak continues for both the Lions and the Bengals.

= J

[kenbuzz]

While turning the crank to calculate Strength of Schedule (for the 2009 Draft Order post), I went ahead and updated last year's SOS/RPI spreadsheet for the 2008 season through week 7. Once week 8 is complete (after tonight's IND-TEN MNF game), I'll bring it completely up to date.

But for those interested, here were the RPI numbers going into this weekend. Note, in this spreadsheet, RPI is calculated using the NCAA model, where opponent's record is used excluding games against the team in question. This is NOT the same model the NFL uses for calculating strength of schedule, because the NFL includes ALL opponent's games. (And yes, I do it the NFL way for the draft order posts :) )

1: JAX (3-3) sos=0.710 rpi=0.599
2: TB (5-2) sos=0.575 rpi=0.597
3: WAS (5-2) sos=0.568 rpi=0.594
4: CAR (5-2) sos=0.525 rpi=0.582
5: BUF (5-1) sos=0.452 rpi=0.5784
6: TEN (6-0) sos=0.375 rpi=0.5782
7: ARI (4-2) sos=0.576 rpi=0.571
8: ATL (4-2) sos=0.500 rpi=0.546
9: PIT (5-1) sos=0.387 rpi=0.541
10: CHI (4-3) sos=0.526 rpi=0.536
11: PHI (3-3) sos=0.559 rpi=0.529
12: DEN (4-3) sos=0.474 rpi=0.518
13: SD (3-4) sos=0.568 rpi=0.5053
14: STL (2-4) sos=0.594 rpi=0.5052
15: NO (3-4) sos=0.537 rpi=0.5049
16: DAL (4-3) sos=0.447 rpi=0.50434
17: NYG (5-1) sos=0.333 rpi=0.50431
18: IND (3-3) sos=0.485 rpi=0.501
19: MIN (3-4) sos=0.538 rpi=0.495
20: GB (4-3) sos=0.447 rpi=0.489
21: BAL (3-3) sos=0.484 rpi=0.485
22: NE (4-2) sos=0.394 rpi=0.481
23: CLE (2-4) sos=0.545 rpi=0.475
24: KC (1-5) sos=0.625 rpi=0.472
25: HOU (2-4) sos=0.5 rpi=0.449
26: MIA (2-4) sos=0.484 rpi=0.445
27: OAK (2-4) sos=0.455 rpi=0.436
28: NYJ (3-3) sos=0.375 rpi=0.435
29: SEA (1-5) sos=0.545 rpi=0.433
30: CIN (0-7) sos=0.583 rpi=0.397
31: SF (2-5) sos=0.417 rpi=0.394
32: DET (0-6) sos=0.382 rpi=0.307

LEGEND:
Rank: Team (W-L) Strength-of-Schedule Ratings-Percentage-Index

[twikoff]

And the streak continues for both the Lions and the Bengals.

= J

and this past weekend was a HUGE step towards no wins for both teams
too bad they dont play each other

[kenbuzz]

In the race to see who will get the #1 pick in the 2009 draft, here's how the top 10 fared this week:

1: Detroit lost 25-17 to 26-WAS
2: Cincinnati lost 35-6 to 7-HOU
3: Seattle won 34-13 over 5-SF
4: Kansas City lost 28-24 to 14-NYJ
5: San Francisco lost 34-13 to 3-SEA
6: Oakland lost 29-10 to 15-BAL
7: Houston won 35-6 over 2-CIN
8: Miami won 25-16 over 31-BUF
9: Cleveland won 23-17 over 18-JAX
10: St Louis lost 23-16 to 23-NE

Your new top 10:

1: DET (0-7) SoS=0.510 (LW=1) at 21-CHI
2: CIN (0-8) SoS=0.649 (2) vs 14-JAX
3: KC (1-6) SoS=0.640 (4) vs 25-TB
4: SF (2-6) SoS=0.464 (5) bye
5: OAK (2-5) SoS=0.490 (6) vs 20-ATL
6: SEA (2-5) SoS=0.500 (3) vs 22-PHI
7: STL (2-5) SoS=0.647 (10) vs 23-ARI
8: SD (3-5) SoS=0.569 (-) bye
9: HOU (3-4) SoS=0.420 (7) at 10-MIN
10: MIN (3-4) SoS=0.549 (-) vs 9-HOU

Dropped out: Miami, Cleveland

Game Of The Week: (9) Houston at (10) Minnesota

[starman9000]

Detroit will beat Chicago this week. Mark my words.

(and by mark my words, I mean only bring it up if it happens)

[Iron Chef]

Det will have a serious chance against the Vikings too

[starman9000]

The Vikings showed they can't lose to the Lions in their last game, by being severely out played and still coming away with the W.

[Daryl]

the divine ref intervention didn't hurt the Vikes, either

[Iron Chef]

The Vikings showed they can't lose to the Lions in their last game, by being severely out played and still coming away with the W.


good point

[davidlynchfan]

how bout a 0-16 bifecta! that would be awesome although i am sure they'll both win at least one eventually.

[starman9000]

the divine ref intervention didn't hurt the Vikes, either

Exactly. (though rumors of a Culpepper arrival at Detroit might end up working against the Purple. I'm sure it will be his only good game for the rest of his career)

[Daryl]

time for Duante to get his roll on!

[Drexl]

Well Detroit, it's up to you!

[lordwow]

Dammmn You.

DAMMMMMMMNNNN YOOUUUUU

[Dean Kousoulas]

Detriot is our only hope left...once they win a game my interest in the NFL is gone until next season. ;)

[kenbuzz]

Detroit will beat Chicago this week. Mark my words. (and by mark my words, I mean only bring it up if it happens)Only off by 4 points, but that was twice the margin by which my Bengals beat the hapless Jags, so don't feel too bad.

Cincinnati's win over Jacksonville didn't hurt their draft slotting any, although it opened a sizable lead now for Detroit, who not only has a one-half game lead on the Bengals but who also has a significant advantage in weakness of schedule. The Bengals would pretty much need Detroit to win TWICE for them to pull past the Lions into first place.

There were no changes in the top 7 draft picks, and only one team (Minnesota) screwed up by winning to fall off the table.

Here's how the top 10 fared this week:

1: Detroit lost 27-23 to Chicago
2: Cincinnati won 21-19 over Jacksonville
3: Kansas City lost 30-27 to Tampa Bay
4: San Francisco was on a bye
5: Oakland lost 24-0 to Atlanta
6: Seattle lost 26-7 to Philadelphia
7: St Louis lost 34-13 to Arizona
8: San Diego was on a bye
9: Houston lost 28-21 to Minnesota
10: Minnesota won 28-21 over Houston

Your new top 10:

1: DET (0-8) SoS=0.523 (LW=1) vs 9-JAX
2: CIN (1-8) SoS=0.616 (2) bye
3: KC (1-7) SoS=0.631 (3) at 10-SD
4: SF (2-6) SoS=0.469 (4) at 26-ARI
5: OAK (2-6) SoS=0.500 (5) vs 30-CAR
6: SEA (2-6) SoS=0.508 (6) at 16-MIA
7: STL (2-6) SoS=0.606 (7) at 20-NYJ
8: HOU (3-5) SoS=0.462 (9) vs 24-BAL
9: JAX (3-5) SoS=0.523 (-) at 1-DET
10: SD (3-5) SoS=0.547 (8) vs 3-KC

Dropped out: Minnesota

Game Of The Week: (9)Jacksonville at (1)Detroit

[Tarantino]

Will Jacksonville allow another team to get their first win?

Hopefully not...

= J

[kenbuzz]

All of the top 10 teams who were playing teams outside of the top 10 lost this week, so the bad teams are consistently doing what they can to keep on keepin' on. The best move of the week belonged to Herm Edwards, whose decision to go for 2 and the loss against the 10th-ranked Chargers was key to keeping the #3 Chiefs in the hunt for the #1 spot. His move came after it was apparent that the top-ranked Lions were thoroughly tanking their game against the #9 Jags, and with the second-ranked Bengals on a bye, Kansas City could not afford a win.

Cleveland is welcomed back to the list after a 2-week hiatus... I'll bet the networks are regretting scheduling the Browns for those 6 primetime appearances now!

Here's how the top 10 fared this week:

1: Detroit lost 38-14 to Jacksonville
2: Cincinnati was on a bye
3: Kansas City lost 20-19 to San Diego
4: San Francisco lost 29-24 to Arizona
5: Oakland lost 17-6 to Carolina
6: Seattle lost 21-19 to Miami
7: St Louis lost 48-3 to NY Jets
8: Houston lost 41-13 to Baltimore
9: Jacksonville won 38-14 over Detroit
10: San Diego won 20-19 over Kansas City

Your new top 10:

1: DET (0-9) SoS=0.494 (LW=1) at 30-CAR
2: CIN (1-8) SoS=0.617 (2) vs 18-PHI
3: KC (1-8) SoS=0.630 (3) vs 12-NO
4: SEA (2-7) SoS=0.481 (6) vs 28-ARI
5: SF (2-7) SoS=0.494 (4) vs 7-STL
6: OAK (2-7) SoS=0.543 (5) at 19-MIA
7: STL (2-7) SoS=0.605 (7) at 5-SF
8: HOU (3-6) SoS=0.506 (8) at 21-IND
9: CLE (3-6) SoS=0.580 (-) at 15-BUF
10: JAX (4-5) SoS=0.457 (9) vs 32-TEN

Dropped out: San Diego

Game Of The Week: (7)St Louis at (5)San Francisco

[kenbuzz]

The Bengals puckered-up and kissed their cheesesteak-flavored sister this week, which dropped them one spot in the overall standings, preserving the anticipated week 17 grand finale at home against the Chefs for the #2 draft spot. The Lions have a virtual 2-game lead on KC (due to Strength of Schedule), and I don't see the schedule having 2 games left that they can win, so I would be shocked if, in 6 weeks Detroit isn't exactly where they are right now.

5th-ranked San Francisco beat the 7th-ranked Rams, proving that on any given week, SOMEONE on the West Coast might actually figure out how to win a game, provided they play someone else who sucks. Cleveland tried to lose to Buffalo but Ryan Lindell did his best Scott Norwood impression as time expired last night, and everybody else in the top 10 found a way to blow it (even Oakland).

Here's how the top 10 fared this week:

1: Detroit lost 31-22 to Carolina
2: Cincinnati tied 13-13 with Philadelphia
3: Kansas City lost 30-20 to New Orleans
4: Seattle lost 26-20 to Arizona
5: San Francisco won 35-16 over St Louis
6: Oakland lost 17-15 to Miami
7: St Louis lost 35-16 to San Francisco
8: Houston lost 33-27 to Indianapolis
9: Cleveland won 29-27 over Buffalo
10: Jacksonville lost 24-14 to Tennessee

Your new top 10:

1: DET (0-10) SoS=0.500 (LW=1) vs 28-TB
2: KC (1-9) SoS=0.610 (3) vs 12-BUF
3: CIN (1-8-1) SoS=0.615 (2) at 29-PIT
4: SEA (2-8) SoS=0.525 (4) vs 22-WAS
5: OAK (2-8) SoS=0.540 (6) at 19-DEN
6: STL (2-8) SoS=0.565 (7) vs 15-CHI
7: SF (3-7) SoS=0.455 (5) at 24-DAL
8: HOU (3-7) SoS=0.515 (8) at 11-CLE
9: JAX (4-6) SoS=0.525 (10) vs 16-MIN
10: SD (4-6) SoS=0.530 (-) vs 25-IND

Dropped out: Cleveland

Game Of The Week: (8) Houston at (11) Cleveland

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PS - The Stripes may be the first team to go undefeated over a three-week span (Win-Bye-Tie) and still be in the hunt for the #1 pick.

[kenbuzz]

Oakland and Houston placed their 2009 first round picks at risk by winning their respective games this week, but their overall 2008 suckiness has served to protect their preferred status for the time being. Oakland win dropped them two spots, allowing St Louis and San Francisco to both percolate up one position in the process. Houston was unchanged, since they went from being the best 3-7 team in the league to the worst 4-7 team. Except for the Raider-induced shuffle in positions 4 through 6, the top 10 is unchanged.

Here's how the top 10 fared this week:

1: Detroit lost 38-20 to Tampa Bay
2: Kansas City lost 54-31 to Buffalo
3: Cincinnati lost 27-10 to Pittsburgh
4: Seattle lost 20-17 to Washington
5: Oakland won 31-10 over Denver
6: St Louis lost 27-3 to Chicago
7: San Francisco lost 35-22 to Dallas
8: Houston won 16-6 over Cleveland
9: Jacksonville lost 30-12 to Minnesota
10: San Diego lost 23-20 to Indianapolis

Your new top 10:

1: DET (0-11) SoS=0.529 (LW=1) vs 31-TEN
2: KC (1-10) SoS=0.603 (2) at 7-OAK
3: CIN (1-9-1) SoS=0.624 (3) vs 25-BAL
4: SEA (2-9) SoS=0.517 (4) at 23-DAL
5: STL (2-9) SoS=0.566 (6) vs 18-MIA
6: SF (3-8) SoS=0.459 (7) at 14-BUF
7: OAK (3-8) SoS=0.537 (5) vs 2-KC
8: HOU (4-7) SoS=0.500 (8) vs 9-JAX
9: JAX (4-7) SoS=0.517 (9) at 8-HOU
10: SD (4-7) SoS=0.545 (10) vs 20-ATL

Dropped out: None

Game Of The Week: (2) Kansas City at (7) Oakland