Worst Best picture winner of the 1970's

[abe55]

What movie would you consider the worst best picture winner of the 1970's?

The results thus far as voted by the members:

Best of 2000's: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Worst of 2000's: Crash

Best of 1990's: The Silence of the Lambs
Worst of 1990's: Shakespeare in Love

Best of 1980's: Platoon
Worst of 1980's: Driving Miss Daisy

Best of 1970's: The Godfather

[NoirFan]

Rocky, certainly. One of the most overrated films ever made.

[emachine]

Annie Hall should have never beaten Star Wars.

[PopcornTreeCt]

I voted Rocky. Only because it somehow beat out Taxi Driver and Network.

[jeffkjoe]

ROCKY deserves it, and you know it.


ANNIE HALL over STAR WARS? Stupid Woody Allen.

[McHawkson]

I voted Rocky. And no, I don't think Rocky deserved it.

[Mondo Kane]

Patton
A great performance by Scott, but it feels more like a TV mini-series than an actual movie.

[conscience]

Kramer vs. Kramer out of the ten. I still like the movie but it isn't as good as the other nine.

[Charlie Goose]

I voted for Annie Hall. Never been a big Woody Allen fan.

Never saw Patton, but the other eight are classics.

I don't understand the hate for Rocky. It's one of my favorites. Is it because the underdog-makes-good sports flick has been redone so many times?

[JOE29]

I voted for The Sting. Redford and Newman was a good combination but I just never had an interest in this one.

[abe55]

I don't understand the hate for Rocky. It's one of my favorites. Is it because the underdog-makes-good sports flick has been redone so many times?

It's not dark and gritty!!!!

[Palaver]

I voted Kramer vs. Kramer, but that was a strong decade for Oscar winners.

[mdc3000]

voted for Kramer... very good decade for best picture winners IMO. And while I do LOVE Star Wars, Annie Hall is a great movie that has really held up over the years.

[Hokeyboy]

ROCKY deserves it, and you know it.


ANNIE HALL over STAR WARS? Stupid Woody Allen.
Annie Hall should have never beaten Star Wars.
Annie Hall is 1000X the film Star Wars could ever hope to be. One of the most brilliantly scripted, acted, and directed comedies ever. And I love Star Wars.

Rocky never deserved it that year. Network or Taxi Driver did. Both are superior films. Rocky's a good movie though.

I went with Kramer v. Kramer. It's a good movie, actually, but not quite in the same league as the others.

[Hokeyboy]

It's not dark and gritty!!!!
Yes, that must be it. :rolleyes:

I dare anyone to watch NETWORK, TAXI DRIVER, ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN, and ROCKY back to back over the course of four nights and tell me ROCKY is the superior film of the four. I triple-dog dare you, feather-muckers!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[clckworang]

Rocky is definitely the least deserving of those best picture winners. It's the Shakespeare in Love of the '70s: not a bad movie but probably didn't deserve the biggest prize.

[chris_sc77]

Another vote for Rocky. Its good but very overrated. I actually think Rocky II is better.

[jeffkjoe]

Annie Hall is 1000X the film Star Wars could ever hope to be. One of the most brilliantly scripted, acted, and directed comedies ever. And I love Star Wars.

Rocky never deserved it that year. Network or Taxi Driver did. Both are superior films. Rocky's a good movie though.



Annie Hall IS a good movie, but in terms of significance to American cinema, Star Wars deserves it for sure. That's my humble opinion, of course, and is subjective.

I can vouch for a close match-up between ROCKY and TAXI DRIVER. But there's no way, again, in my humble opinion, that NETWORK is a better movie than ROCKY.

[wm lopez]

Have you guys seen ROCKY when it came out?
Or saw those 80's copy cat movies first and base the movie on that?
ROCKY had a good love story , characters, acting, the ending, the music score.

[LiquidSky]

Kramer vs Kramer

[inri222]

Rocky

[abe55]

Yes, that must be it. :rolleyes:

I dare anyone to watch NETWORK, TAXI DRIVER, ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN, and ROCKY back to back over the course of four nights and tell me ROCKY is the superior film of the four. I triple-dog dare you, feather-muckers!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I was messing around. I actually consider Taxi Driver to be the superior movie, and the deserving best picture winner. The other two about equal with Rocky.

[hasslein]

Rocky is one of the top three screenplays that are used in screenwriting classes. It is a perfect film.

[Doughboy]

I went with The Sting. It beat The Exorcist and American Graffiti which are both superior films IMO.

[hasslein]

I can't believe Cuckoo's Nest hasn't one vote yet. It was close, but barely beaten by Annie Hall for me....

[McHawkson]

Yes, that must be it. :rolleyes:

I dare anyone to watch NETWORK, TAXI DRIVER, ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN, and ROCKY back to back over the course of four nights and tell me ROCKY is the superior film of the four. I triple-dog dare you, feather-muckers!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

I saw Rocky again few months ago, I still hate it. :shrug:

[emachine]

Annie Hall is 1000X the film Star Wars could ever hope to be. One of the most brilliantly scripted, acted, and directed comedies ever. And I love Star Wars.

Sorry, but Allen movies are not really my cup of tea. Annie Hall is alright, and his only decent film, but it's no Star Wars.

[emachine]

I can't believe Cuckoo's Nest hasn't one vote yet. It was close, but barely beaten by Annie Hall for me....

That's because it's a great movie.

[Rockmjd23]

Kramer vs Kramer is the weakest.

[NoirFan]

Rocky is one of the top three screenplays that are used in screenwriting classes.

At community colleges perhaps.

[porieux]

Why is Annie Hall even on the list? It's a masterpiece and could never be called the 'worst' anything.

[hasslein]

At community colleges perhaps.

No, not quite. It's always referenced, especially as the example of the page 70 "give up scene."

Robert McKee I know for sure uses it & Chinatown as structure examples...

[PopcornTreeCt]

At community colleges perhaps.

I took screenwriting classes at a community college.... we studied Network. Even community college teachers know good films. :)

[tdilia]

Kramer vs Kramer gets my vote, although Annie Hall was a close second. Both movies are overrated, well anything by Woody Allen is overrated. I don't hate Rocky I like but it is not a better movie than Network or Taxi Driver.

[Hokeyboy]

Kramer vs Kramer gets my vote, although Annie Hall was a close second. Both movies are overrated, well anything by Woody Allen is overrated. I don't hate Rocky I like but it is not a better movie than Network or Taxi Driver.
What Woody Allen movies have you seen?

[MoviePage]

Rocky is definitely the weakest of the 10.

[Jack's Smirking]

Patton
A great performance by Scott, but it feels more like a TV mini-series than an actual movie.

That got my vote as well, for much the same reason.

But honestly, that's a pretty spectacular list of movies. Normally with these types of threads, I quickly scan the list and one film will jump out at me. This one took some thought.

[jeffkjoe]

Sorry, but Allen movies are not really my cup of tea. Annie Hall is alright, and his only decent film, but it's no Star Wars.



Amen. 30 years later, more people remember STAR WARS than ANNIE HALL.

[William Fuld]

Amen. 30 years later, more people remember STAR WARS than ANNIE HALL.

Only because no one had an Annie Hall lunchbox.

[Lastyear]

[QUOTE=NoirFan;8946404]Rocky, certainly. One of the most overrated films ever made.[/QUOTE
I agree. Just a rewrite of Somebody Up There Likes Me.

[jeffkjoe]

Only because no one had an Annie Hall lunchbox.


Not necessarily.

For almost a year back in '77, there were no toys, no marketing hoopla. And Star Wars only opened on 32 screens.

Yet, even without any fanfare, it shook the world off its axis. Say that about Annie Hall.

[wm lopez]

[QUOTE=NoirFan;8946404]Rocky, certainly. One of the most overrated films ever made.[/QUOTE
I agree. Just a rewrite of Somebody Up There Likes Me.

I thought the same thing too when I saw SUTLM.
But after ROCKY a lot movies copied that theme in the 80's and those movies were hits. So a lot of people have enjoyed that formula and continued to see the copy cats and ROCKY sequels. So over rated not and the movie going public & critics at the time says so.

[KillerCannibal]

Having never seen Kramer vs. Kramer I'm going to go with Rocky. I think Rocky is a great film, no question, but no way is it better than Taxi Driver or Network.

[Tarantino]

Yet, even without any fanfare, it shook the world off its axis. Say that about Annie Hall.

I think that the way it's creator has milked it over the years has diminished it's 'impact' over the years...although I laugh over the statement 'shook the world off it's axis'.

I'm sure if we had two Annie Hall sequels, twenty years later threw in some shitty prequels, pumped out a bunch of cartoons, etc., it might be a different story. As it is, there was one Annie Hall, and it was great, and that's what people remember.

= J

[PopcornTreeCt]

I'm sure if we had two Annie Hall sequels, twenty years later threw in some shitty prequels, pumped out a bunch of cartoons, etc., it might be a different story. As it is, there was one Annie Hall, and it was great, and that's what people remember.

= J

:up:

Annie Hall is better than Star Wars...but not better than Empire Strikes Back.

:)

[hasslein]

I tried watching Annie Hall again recently and still feel it isn't funny, and comes off very self indulgent. My voting for it was not because of Star Wars, but because it is a weak film. IMHO

[Decker]

Kramer Vs Kramer is by far the worst of that bunch; A totally manipulative family drama. So inconsequential. Not a terrible film by any stretch, but in a different league than those flicks in the first half of the decade to be sure.

[Decker]

Since when was the question "Is Annie Hall better than Star Wars"? I think a few of those best picture winners were not the best film that year; the poll is asking for the worst film of those ten winners.

For the record, Woody Allen considered it absurd to ask Academy members to decide if Star Wars or Annie Hall was the better film that year. He pointed out that the two films couldn't have been more different and showed his indifference by skipping the ceremony to play oboe in his jazz group instead.

[Hokeyboy]

Not necessarily.

For almost a year back in '77, there were no toys, no marketing hoopla. And Star Wars only opened on 32 screens.

Yet, even without any fanfare, it shook the world off its axis. Say that about Annie Hall.

Annie Hall has brilliant direction, sharp dialogue, searing insight into the human condition, fantastic cinematograpgy, and some of the most caustic comedic setups ever filmed.

Say that about STAR WARS. ("But I was gonna go to Toshi Station to pick up some power converterrrrrrrrrrrrs...")

[tdilia]

What Woody Allen movies have you seen?


Annie Hall
Sleeper
Bananas
A Midsummer Night's Sex Comedy
Bullets Over Broadway
Manhattan
Mighty Aphrodite
Alice
Shadows and Fog
Crimes and Misdemeanors

There are a couple more (can't remember which ones) that I turned off after 20 or 30 minutes.

Bullets is the only one that I can say is a decent flick, I can never figure out what people see in Allen's movies. He is not funny nor do I think he is a good director or writer.

You can praise Allen all you want but the man is overrated.

[lamphorn]

Oofah. Can't believe the Allen bashing on this site. I think he's one of the very few truly great living directors. Might as well say Scorsese or Kubrick suck.

[Brain Stew]

People irrationally claim Star Wars is the better movie because they saw it as kids. Star Wars' story may have the appeal of "the hero's quest," but Annie Hall is pretty much the only movie that deals with relationships on honest terms.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Star Wars too, but beyond the special effects there really isn't much to the film. I'm mostly just bitter because Star Wars effectively ended "New Hollywood" and pretty much ended the American film renaissance of 70s.

In the end, I guess it doesn't really matter because both Allen and Lucas have squandered their legacy. It just took Lucas A LOT less time.

[lamphorn]

People irrationally claim Star Wars is the better movie because they saw it as kids. Star Wars' story may have the appeal of "the hero's quest," but Annie Hall is pretty much the only movie that deals with relationships on honest terms.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Star Wars too, but beyond the special effects there really isn't much to the film. I'm mostly just bitter because Star Wars effectively ended "New Hollywood" and pretty much ended the American film renaissance of 70s.

In the end, I guess it doesn't really matter because both Allen and Lucas have squandered their legacy. It just took Lucas A LOT less time.

I really don't see a squandering of legacy from either guy. Lucas just doesn't seem to have grown as a filmmaker and keeps going back and revising his crown jewel.

Allen, while he does have his particular obsessions and subject matter, has always pushed himself as a filmmaker with mixed results. While Curse of the Jade Scorpion was lame, if you've seen Match Point and Vicky Christina Barcelona, I really don't see where his "legacy" has been squandered.

[tdilia]

As much as I don't like Allen (and love Star Wars) I wouldn't compare Star Wars to Annie Hall, totally two different movies, apples and oranges.

[Decker]

I think that the way it's creator has milked it over the years has diminished it's 'impact' over the years...although I laugh over the statement 'shook the world off it's axis'.

I'm sure if we had two Annie Hall sequels,
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twenty years later threw in some shitty prequels,
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pumped out a bunch of cartoons, etc.,
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it might be a different story. As it is, there was one Annie Hall, and it was great, and that's what people remember.

= J
Apparently, that is the case.

;)

[lamphorn]

Apparently, that is the case.

;)

Where to begin with this. Manhattan and Manhattan Murder Mystery were in no way sequels to Annie Hall. No more than Raging Bull was the sequel to Taxi Driver. Many directors cast actors several times to good effect.

Ants was a shitty cartoon that Allen played a voice on but did not write or direct.

He's directed over 40 films, more than a few of which are considered classics.

[Decker]

Where to begin with this. Manhattan and Manhattan Murder Mystery were in no way sequels to Annie Hall. No more than Raging Bull was the sequel to Taxi Driver. Many directors cast actors several times to good effect.

Ants was a shitty cartoon that Allen played a voice on but did not write or direct.

He's directed over 40 films, more than a few of which are considered classics.
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[Rypro 525]

wow, only 5 picks for the Deer Hunter. I'm sorry, but that was one of the most boring long pretentious pieces of shit i've ever seen (although the first russian roulette scene is good)

[wm lopez]

I showed KRAMER VS. KRAMER to a 20 year old single mom and she cried.
She's used to watching horror movies and stuff her age group have grown up on.
Like many of you youngings who grew up on the loser againest all odds can win theme must have seen them before seeing ROCKY. So you see ROCKY as this no big deal movie.

[Suprmallet]

I also picked The Deer Hunter. Watching it again, I find that a lot of its impact came from the overwhelming rejection of the Vietnam War by the general public and less to do with its actual merits. I'd much rather watch something like Platoon for my Vietnam fix.

As far as Star Wars versus Annie Hall, Annie Hall may not have had as much mass influence as Star Wars, but it's certainly a better made film. Although, all things considered, I actually prefer Love and Death and Manhattan.