Is Obama the Messiah? (The One and Only)

[Thor Simpson]

Bhk won't shut up with this line, so I figure it's time to determine once and for all if anyone out there actually buys it.

Please compare and contrast Senator Obama with Jesus Christ.

Once we have a list, wendersfan can make a chart and we will then be able to determine the odds of it being true.

[classicman2]

I'll get the first post in before this thread is closed. :)

[matta]

Obama = Community Organizer = Christ = Messiah QED

[Red Dog]

This should be a poll.

Messiah? No. Prophet? Sure, why not.

[matta]

And by similar proof,

Palin = Governor = Pontius Pilate = Responsible for the death of Jesus

[Thor Simpson]

Sorry, took a minute to get the poll up. (no viagra jokes! :mad: )

[bhk]

No. He's an empty suit/puppet that's good at regurgitating the socialist/marxist philosophy that's been poured into his head by his radical mentors like Alinsky. And he's good at reading off of a teleprompter. But, his devotees(like Donna Brazile and Susan Saranwrap) keep comparing him to Jesus so for them he is.

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[Thor Simpson]

I guess we need these here. Even McCain is not denying that Obama could be the Messiah. Messiah's don't have to be President, after all.

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[Venusian]

No and constantly referring to him as the Messiah (or anyone with some kind of nickname) just makes you look dumb

[Groucho]

This was actually brought up in a recent interview on MSNBC:

Keith Olbermann: Senator Obama, are you in fact "The Messiah"?
Barack Obama: (laughs) No, Keith. I'm not the Messiah.
KO: (raises eyebrow) Only the true Messiah denies his divinity!
BO: (sighs) Okay then, I am the Messiah.
KO: THE MESSIAH! THE MESSIAH!

[classicman2]

I know he's not The Messiah. I haven't heard The Seventh Trump.

Maybe it will be sounded on November 4th.

But again, maybe not.

[Bandoman]

No and constantly referring to him as the Messiah (or anyone with some kind of nickname) just makes you look dumb

And childish. Using the term occasionally to make a point or as a joke wouldn't be so bad, but when someone uses it continuously it merely detracts from what might otherwise be a cogent post.

[Groucho]

And childish. Using the term occasionally to make a point or as a joke wouldn't be so bad, but when someone uses it continuously it merely detracts from what might otherwise be a cogent post.I don't think we have to worry about that here.

[classicman2]

When you ox is being gored..............................

[General Zod]

I don't think he IS the Messiah.. but have the media and his followers been treating him like one? Absolutely.

[Brack]

yep, anyone who gets people enthusiastic about anything is apparently the Messiah. :rolleyes:

[classicman2]

I do believe that some of the support he has received borders on religious zeal - even on this forum. ;)

[Bronkster]

No and constantly referring to him as the Messiah (or anyone with some kind of nickname) just makes you look dumb

Outside of bhk and Limbaugh, I haven't heard anyone else use the expression. I agree with Venusian.

[Iron Chef]

He is the messiah! I should know, I've followed a few.

[classicman2]

yep, anyone who gets people enthusiastic about anything is apparently the Messiah. :rolleyes:

Are you critical of Obama on anything?

If so, please enlighten the forum.

[rw2516]

If he gets crucified on election day we'll know for sure.

[Brack]

Are you critical of Obama on anything?

If so, please enlighten the forum.

I'm not particularly critical of a lot of people. are they all the Messiah as well?

[classicman2]

:lol:

JasonF, a staunch of Obama, is critical of his energy policy. He's said it it a number of times.

Surely you can find something in which you disagree with Obama on.

[Groucho]

I don't think he IS the Messiah.. but have the media and his followers been treating him like one? Absolutely.I can agree with this. But it's been paled by the reception of Sarah Palin, the She-siah.

[Brack]

he still smokes sometimes.

[classicman2]

That's cute.

Stop dodging the question and answer it.

[Brack]

That's cute.

Stop dodging the question and answer it.

:rolleyes: I'm not too keen on smoking, why's that cute?

He's way too kind to McCain.

[Bandoman]

:rolleyes: I'm not too keen on smoking, why's that cute?

He's way too kind to McCain.

:lol: That's the equivalent of the interview response "my weakness is that I work too darn hard".

I'm voting for Obama, but I don't agree with him on everything. I think his heavy reliance on biofuels is a mistake, and I think he only pays lip service to nuclear energy, and no new nuclear power plants would be built under his watch.

[classicman2]

:rolleyes: I'm not too keen on smoking, why's that cute?

He's way too kind to McCain.

How about political issues?

Any of them you don't agree with him on?

[wishbone]

yep, anyone who gets people enthusiastic about anything is apparently the Messiah. :rolleyes:And Obama Wept
February 07, 2008 9:43 AM

Inspiration is nice. But some folks seem to be getting out of hand.

It's as if Tom Daschle descended from on high saying, "Be not afraid; for behold I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all the people: for there is born to you this day in the city of Chicago a Savior, who is Barack the Democrat."

Obama supporter Kathleen Geier writes that she's "getting increasingly weirded out by some of Obama's supporters. On listservs I'm on, some people who should know better – hard-bitten, not-so-young cynics, even – are gushing about Barack…

Describing various encounters with Obama supporters, she writes, "Excuse me, but this sounds more like a cult than a political campaign. The language used here is the language of evangelical Christianity – the Obama volunteers speak of 'coming to Obama' in the same way born-again Christians talk about 'coming to Jesus.'...So I say, we should all get a grip, stop all this unseemly mooning over Barack, see him and the political landscape he is a part of in a cooler, clearer, and more realistic light, and get to work."

Joe Klein, writing at Time, notes "something just a wee bit creepy about the mass messianism" he sees in Obama's Super Tuesday speech.

"We are the ones we've been waiting for," Obama said. "This time can be different because this campaign for the presidency of the United States of America is different. It's different not because of me. It's different because of you."

Says Klein: "That is not just maddeningly vague but also disingenuous: the campaign is entirely about Obama and his ability to inspire. Rather than focusing on any specific issue or cause — other than an amorphous desire for change — the message is becoming dangerously self-referential. The Obama campaign all too often is about how wonderful the Obama campaign is. “

The always interesting James Wolcott writes that "(p)erhaps it's my atheism at work but I found myself increasingly wary of and resistant to the salvational fervor of the Obama campaign, the idealistic zeal divorced from any particular policy or cause and chariot-driven by pure euphoria. I can picture President Hillary in the White House dealing with a recalcitrant Republican faction; I can't picture President Obama in the same role because his summons to history and call to hope seems to transcend legislative maneuvers and horse-trading; his charisma is on a more ethereal plane, and I don't look to politics for transcendence and self-certification."

Then there's MSNBC's Chris Matthews who tells Felix Gillette in the New York Observer, “I’ve been following politics since I was about 5. I’ve never seen anything like this. This is bigger than Kennedy. [Obama] comes along, and he seems to have the answers. This is the New Testament."

And behold, Obama met them and greeted them. And they came up and took hold of His feet and worshiped Him.

The Holy Season of Lent is upon us. Can Obama worshippers try to give up their Helter-Skelter cult-ish qualities for a few weeks?

At least until Easter, or the Pennsylvania primary, whichever comes first...

- jpt

UPDATE: Let me be clear: I'm not saying there shouldn't be enthusiasm in politics. I'm merely touching on the fact that some Obama supporters' exhuberance seems to be getting a little out of hand. Obama himself joked about this at a Hollywood fundraiser, as noted in Men's Vogue:

“When Morgan Freeman comes over to greet Obama, the senator begins bowing down both hands in worship. ‘This guy was president before I was,’ says Obama, referring to Freeman's turn in Deep Impact and, clearly, getting a little ahead of his own bio. Next, a nod to Bruce Almighty: ‘This guy was God before I was.’”http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/and-obama-wept.html

Enthusiasm and weirding out can be a fine line at times. ;)

[Brack]

How about political issues?

Any of them you don't agree with him on?

Not particularly.

You seem to have a real problem with this, which amuses me.

[classicman2]

You scare the hell out of me to think there are folks like you willing to believe everything some political candidate has to say.

[Venusian]

If you can't find any issue you don't agree with a (any) politician on, you aren't looking close enough

[classicman2]

I've been voting ever since 1960. I've never seen a candidate for anything that I agreed totally with - except when I ran for the school board. I agreed totally with myself then. ;)

[Brack]

You scare the hell out of me to think there are folks like you willing to believe everything some political candidate has to say.

Their stands on issues is not exactly the same thing as believing everything someone has to say. But way to go in drumming up some fake concern.

[Bandoman]

Their stands on issues is not exactly the same thing as believing everything someone has to say. But way to go in drumming up some fake concern.

You seriously agree with Obama on every single issue? I'm not saying that I don't believe you, but that would be highly unusual.

[Brack]

You seriously agree with Obama on every single issue? I'm not saying that I don't believe you, but that would be highly unusual.

Like I said, I'm not highly against anything he's for. I understand the political game, and whether or not I'm for or against certain things is highly irrelevant. There are 2 real choices, and that is the reality.

[classicman2]

That may be the election realty, but that's not the realty of this thread.

[Venusian]

Like I said, I'm not highly against anything he's for. I understand the political game, and whether or not I'm for or against certain things is highly irrelevant. There are 2 real choices, and that is the reality.

the question wasn't doyou support him over mccain, the question was if you support all his positions which is sounds like you do

[Brack]

That may be the election realty, but that's not the realty of this thread.

the realty of this thread? what are you selling?

[Thor Simpson]

the realty of this thread? what are you selling?

It appears that you agree with all of Obama's views and will thus defend him against any ridicule.

[Brack]

the question wasn't doyou support him over mccain, the question was if you support all his positions which is sounds like you do

And you'd be wrong. You want me to list every single one? Are you guys really that bored?

[Venusian]

i think cman was asking for just one, not all of them

[Brack]

It appears that you agree with all of Obama's views and will thus defend him against any ridicule.

I oppose stupidity, if that's what you mean. As creator of a topic as silly as this is, I'm willing to bet you agree.

[Thor Simpson]

You don't have to list all of the issues, merely the ones you disagree with him on. It sounds like the list would be quick and easy.

[classicman2]

Brack,I'll say one thing - you are the best dodger on this forum.

You've wrested the title from me.

:lol:

[Brack]

i think cman was asking for just one, not all of them

Just because he asks something doesn't mean I'm going to give it to him. He'll just have to wonder. I'm not running for office the last I checked.

[Thor Simpson]

The concern is that Obama could say today "We should go into Pakistan because we have a right to pursue certain elements there and are not receiving the cooperation we need" and some people would defend him in that view. Or he could say "We should not set foot in Pakistan without their approval" and those same people would defend him against criticism.

It's not so much that Obama's view on an issue is right, but that he's the right one to follow on the issues.

[Mordred]

Outside of bhk and Limbaugh, I haven't heard anyone else use the expression. I agree with Venusian.You're not saying that bhk isn't original are you?

[classicman2]

I'm not running for office the last I checked.

What has that got to do with the question a number of us are asking.

You are a member of this forum, aren't you?

[wishbone]

Here's one:In July 2008, Obama said that if elected president he would expand the delivery of social services through churches and other religious organizations, vowing to achieve what he said President Bush had fallen short on.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama

Check only one please,
[ ] Support
[ ] Do Not Support

[Brack]

What has that got to do with the question a number of us are asking.

You are a member of this forum, aren't you?

Yeah, but as a member, do I have to share just because someone demands it? I think not.

[classicman2]

Then perhaps you shouldn't be so fervent in your support of Obama and so critical of McCain on this forum with that attitude.

[Brack]

Then perhaps you shouldn't be so fervent in your support of Obama and so critical of McCain on this forum with that attitude.

What are you even talking about?

[Brack]

Here's one:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama

Check only one please,
[ ] Support
[ ] Do Not Support

I could take it or leave it.

[Thor Simpson]

:lol:

[Brack]

:lol:

Why is that funny? Must everyone be for or against something? Now that notion is funny.

[Thor Simpson]

Why is that funny? Must everyone be for or against something? Now that notion is funny.

Sorry, the correct answer was "present."

[wishbone]

rotfl

[General Zod]

Sorry, the correct answer was "present."

:lol: And then you too, Brack, would have the qualifications to be president :banana:

[Brack]

:lol: And then you too, Brack, would have the qualifications to be president :banana:

excuse me for not caring about something that isn't terribly important.

[wendersfan]

If <b>bhk</b> says he's the Messiah, that's good enough for me!

:up:

[Chrisedge]

I have to object to this thread, I know it's joke, but it's no different than me starting:

Is Sarah Palin Satan? or any number of "flaming" topics.

[Thor Simpson]

Well, there isn't a theme of people actually calling Palin "satan" in both this forum and in the Media. Plus she already has two of her own threads. :)

And yes, it's a joke primarily, and maybe if the "Messianic" drivel would find its way here instead of the main political threads, everyone would be better served. It's really annoying there, though perhaps a relevant topic of its own.

[wendersfan]

And yes, it's a joke primarily, and maybe if the "Messianic" drivel would find its way here instead of the main political threads, everyone would be better served. It's really annoying there, though perhaps a relevant topic of its own.Well, it's really a function of people who can't or won't engage those with whom they disagree on a human level. Look at it this way - I've met and known a lot of politicians in my life, and almost all of them, regardless of ideology or party affiliation, had two traits in common: they were ridiculously egomaniacal, and they really wanted to make people's lives better. They aren't any better or worse than most people, they still have the same faults and foibles, but in addition to that they combine the worst aspects of rocks stars and social workers. Therefore, it's hard for me to get too emotionally involved with any of their campaigns, even if I know them personally.

[wm lopez]

For the many of you who don't know here's the hard facts.
The Anti-Christ is supposed to arrive before the 2nd coming of the Messiah.
This is in your Bible's Book of Revelation.
And many t.v. preachers have said this since I watched t.v. preachers since 1980.
And the Anti-Christ is supposed to come from Europe not America.
So there you have it for you Bush haters who call him whatever.
And your Obama lovers who call him Messiah.
Sorry to ruin your thread, but I had the correct info and I shared and that's what the internet is about not porn and smearing people.

[Thor Simpson]

Obama is young. There are lots of Europeans that came before him. Before he came before the Europeans.

[Ky-Fi]

I believe Obama said that his election would be a time when "the seas would stop rising, and the planet began to heal itself." Theologically speaking, I think that's more in line with the powers of some of the Old Testament prophets, so no, I don't believe that "Messiah" would be an accurate description.

[Bandoman]

the internet is about not porn and

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!


please?

[classicman2]

I have to object to this thread, I know it's joke, but it's no different than me starting:

Is Sarah Palin Satan? or any number of "flaming" topics.

Your objection is heard,

[classicman2]

Folks! Let's not take everything so seriously.

I believe there's nothing wrong with having a little fun on the forum.

The Sound of the Sixth Trump brings the anti-Christ - Satan.

And no, everyone doesn't believe the 'coming from Europe' thing. Therefore if you can count, you won't be deceived.

Shall I continue with a full sermon on the matter? :)

[Brent L]

He may not be the Messiah to them, but politicians in Brazil are apparently in love with him:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/15/brazil.barackobama

Walk into a polling station in Belford Roxo, an impoverished city on the fringes of Rio de Janiero, on October 5 and you will be faced with an historic choice. You could vote for Alcides Rolim, the Workers' Party mayoral candidate promising a "city for all" or Elizeu Pitorra, a local communist who believes it is "time for a change". Most voters, however, will probably opt for Barack Obama, a 39-year-old Brazilian who, until recently, was known as Claudio Henrique dos Anjos.

Welcome to Obama-mania, Brazil-style. Few countries have embraced the idea of the US's first black president as enthusiastically as Brazil, a country with one of the largest Afro-descendant populations on Earth yet where black faces remain a minority in politics. Obama T-shirts are everywhere while chat shows and newspaper columns are filled with talk of the 47-year-old Illinois senator.

Now even Brazil's politicians are lining up for their piece of the pie. Due to a quirk of Brazilian law, candidates are allowed to run under the name of their choice. As a result, at least six Brazilian politicians have officially renamed themselves "Barack Obama" in a bid to get an edge over their rivals in October's municipal elections.

"In truth it was an accident," says Belford Roxo's Obama, an IT consultant who is bidding to become the city's first black mayor. "I'd been on the television wearing a suit and people thought I looked a bit like him so they started calling me Barack Obama. They'd see me in the street and shout: 'Hey! Barack!" So I decided to register it."

Like his illustrious American counterpart, who has relatives in Kenya, Brazil's Obama also has one foot in Africa. His grandfather was the descendant of slaves.

He admits he has also been looking to his namesake's speeches for inspiration. "I say the same things. I talk about political renewal, change, about transforming the city."

Despite their similarities the two Obamas have yet to meet although the Brazilian Obama says that as mayor he would "extend an invitation" to the real Obama to dine in Belford Roxo. "It would be great if he could come and see our reality," he beams. "Just imagine."

[Venusian]

And no, everyone doesn't believe the 'coming from Europe' thing. Therefore if you can count, you won't be deceived.

Shall I continue with a full sermon on the matter? :)

Thanks for pointing that out. where do people get the europe thing again?

[Thor Simpson]

If this discussion continues and we end up correctly deciphering the end times right here in this thread, I want you all to know that I'm going to take credit.

[JasonF]

I voted that he is the literal messiah because I know it's what classicman would expect of me and I wouldn't want to disappoint him.

It looks like five of you are with me; the rest of you have seven years to accept him or risk being cast into a lake of fire for a thousand years ...

[Venusian]

Brack,I'll say one thing - you are the best dodger on this forum.

You've wrested the title from me.

:lol:

:lol: :up:

[classicman2]

No - the lake of fire is the second death.

The 1000 years is The Millennium.

Please don't bring up Lazarus & the rich man. I really don't have the time to explain it to you.

:)

[wendersfan]

For the many of you who don't know here's the hard facts.
The Anti-Christ is supposed to arrive before the 2nd coming of the Messiah.
This is in your Bible's Book of Revelation.
And many t.v. preachers have said this since I watched t.v. preachers since 1980.
And the Anti-Christ is supposed to come from Europe not America.
So there you have it for you Bush haters who call him whatever.
And your Obama lovers who call him Messiah.
Sorry to ruin your thread, but I had the correct info and I shared and that's what the internet is about not porn and smearing people.At this point I really need to ask: are you some sort of performance artist?

[JasonF]

The concern is that Obama could say today "We should go into Pakistan because we have a right to pursue certain elements there and are not receiving the cooperation we need" and some people would defend him in that view. Or he could say "We should not set foot in Pakistan without their approval" and those same people would defend him against criticism.

It's not so much that Obama's view on an issue is right, but that he's the right one to follow on the issues.

To be fair, Senator Obama is far from unique in that respect. There are plenty of people who think President Bush or Senator McCain can do no wrong either.

[JasonF]

No - the lake of fire is the second death.

The 1000 years is The Millennium.

Please don't bring up Lazarus & the rich man. I really don't have the time to explain it to you.

:)

:lol: I'm too Jewy to mix it up on Christian eschatology with you.

What does this mean for my theory that President Bush is the antichrist and 2002-2008 are the seven years of tribulation? ;)

[CRM114]

Yes. Like in Jesus Christ Superstar. Can he sing?

[Thor Simpson]

We know he can dance.

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[creekdipper]

I've been voting ever since 1960. I've never seen a candidate for anything that I agreed totally with - except when I ran for the school board. I agreed totally with myself then. ;)

You should have voted against your own resolutions every now & then just to prove that you "aren't partisan".

[Brack]

It amazes me that people think EVERYBODY has to have at least one BIG issue with a politician, but that simply isn't true. There are some things I'd prefer Obama to be for, but if he was, he, or anyone, most definitely wouldn't win the election, since they're not too popular with the people right now, and probably never will be.

[classicman2]

To be fair, Senator Obama is far from unique in that respect. There are plenty of people who think President Bush or Senator McCain can do no wrong either.


There are not nearly, nearly as many people who think Bush or McCain can do wrong as there is for Obama.

Seriously - I've never seen such 'devotion' (I really don't know what to call it) as I've see from the devotees of Obama.

[Sean O'Hara]

This poll sucks. Where's the option for, "Shave his head and you'll find 666"?

[JasonF]

There are not nearly, nearly as many people who think Bush or McCain can do wrong as there is for Obama.

Seriously - I've never seen such 'devotion' (I really don't know what to call it) as I've see from the devotees of Obama.

Oh, please!

Actually, you're right about Senator McCain. He didn't get his cult until he nominated Governor Palin. Now, though, some on the right are tripping over themselves to explain why Senator McCain is right about everything.

President Reagan is another one with an extremely devoted following.

[starman9000]

There are not nearly, nearly as many people who think Bush or McCain can do wrong as there is for Obama.

Seriously - I've never seen such 'devotion' (I really don't know what to call it) as I've see from the devotees of Obama.

It wasn't that long ago when Bush was completely worshiped by a lot of people. The Christian book stores around here had more books with W on display than anything else, except for perhaps a memorabilia table for The Passion products.

[Venusian]

There do seem to be alot of apologetics for Palin popping up...not sure why she has such a fan group

[classicman2]

Oh, please!

Actually, you're right about Senator McCain. He didn't get his cult until he nominated Governor Palin. Now, though, some on the right are tripping over themselves to explain why Senator McCain is right about everything.

President Reagan is another one with an extremely devoted following.


Reagan - not even close to Obama's devoted followers

I forgot - oh please?

[Thor Simpson]

There are some things I'd prefer Obama to be for, but if he was, he, or anyone, most definitely wouldn't win the election, since they're not too popular with the people right now, and probably never will be.

Ah- those are the things I'd like to hear about. :up:

There do seem to be alot of apologetics for Palin popping up...not sure why she has such a fan group

I think it has to do with the swarm of people trying to bring her down on petty charges. If people weren't smearing her and her family, people wouldn't need to "come to her defense" to bring some sense to the situation. I do think she has some ardent "fans" in certain demographics. But much of that is overblown, simply because of the lunacy of the charge against her to reinstate Obama on his pedestal. Seriously... it's like people just said "Palin? Who? We didn't see this coming, oh no! She must be brought down!"

Interesting that the first response was to tear her down rather than actually assess her abilities.

Yes, this has happened against Obama as well. As if that justifies it. It's just a sick side of the current information world, with an array of ignorance at our fingertips.

That's not to say that everyone has been unfair to Palin. I think many around here have been fair and given the lack of exposure she has received prior to this pick, she deserves a close look. But there is clearly a movement "against" Palin every bit as much as there is a "fan" base. We see that here as well.

[Groucho]

Reagan - not even close to Obama's devoted followers:lol: Has there been a movement to add Obama to Mount Rushmore?

[Red Dog]

It wasn't that long ago when Bush was completely worshiped by a lot of people. The Christian book stores around here had more books with W on display than anything else, except for perhaps a memorabilia table for The Passion products.


The level of worship for Bush (at any point) is nothing compared to the worship exhibited by Obama fanatics.

Reagan? Maybe.

[Red Dog]

:lol: Has there been a movement to add Obama to Mount Rushmore?

I thought he was already on it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/1024_Mt_Rushmore.jpg

[nemein]

Reagan - not even close to Obama's devoted followers

I would put them about equal myself. The issue is Reagan's "cult" mainly seem to come after he left office w/ people shaping his legacy and doing stuff to honor his memory after his death. Obama is alive and active and possibly about to come into power.

[Venusian]

I never got the Reagan personality cult...maybe i'm too young for it

[Red Dog]

I would put them about equal myself. The issue is Reagan's "cult" mainly seem to come after he left office w/ people shaping his legacy and doing stuff to honor his memory after his death. Obama is alive and active and possibly about to come into power.


Good point.

[Rockmjd23]

Reagan at least got his cult after he became president. :lol:

[starman9000]

The level of worship for Bush (at any point) is nothing compared to the worship exhibited by Obama fanatics.

Reagan? Maybe.

My experience must be different due to location. (less Obama fans in general)
But he was indeed perceived as a Savior. I think his recent lack of popularity has tempered peoples memories quite a bit.

The Reagan phenomenon was weird in that a cult of personality for him seemed to blow up a few years after his death, but I think it has died down lately. I'm sure when it's needed it will rise again.

[Larry C.]

Thor this thread is just ridiculous... Comparing Obama to of all ppl JC? Are you kidding me? Your going straight to hell.

[Thor Simpson]

Thor this thread is just ridiculous... Comparing Obama to of all ppl JC? Are you kidding me? Your going straight to hell.

I believe others made this comparison many many times before I figured it was worth a discussion. For the record, I do not think Obama is the Messiah but I think he's a really good dude who wants to do a lot for this country.

[classicman2]

I think he's a politician.

[Bandoman]

Whoa, that's way overboard, Thor. Way, way overboard. :mad:

[JasonF]

The level of worship for Bush (at any point) is nothing compared to the worship exhibited by Obama fanatics.

Reagan? Maybe.

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[JasonF]

Reagan at least got his cult after he became president. :lol:

Take a look at what happened in 1976. President Reagan's cult began with his Time For Choosing speech in 1964 and got bigger and bigger over the years.

[Thor Simpson]

It's pretty funny to hear you talking openly about these "cults" now, JasonF . :) Doesn't make Obama's go away, you know. Much like highlighting Palin's inexperience.

[Larry C.]

I believe others made this comparison many many times before I figured it was worth a discussion. For the record, I do not think Obama is the Messiah but I think he's a really good dude who wants to do a lot for this country.


I understand that Thor. And FYI I don't think your going to hell... ;)

But I'm a really good dude that wants this country to be great and I would make a crappy President.

[Bandoman]

But I'm a really good dude that wants this country to be great and I would make a crappy President.
Quoted for posterity.


[..waits until Larry C. runs for President...]

;)

[Red Dog]

I feel bad for JasonF. He's been taken over by some kind of monster this past year. I call him Obamblor and it's time to snatch him from his neon claws!

[classicman2]

:lol:

[Larry C.]

Quoted for posterity.


[..waits until Larry C. runs for President...]

;)


Awesome!!! I'm on the ballot. With that I say...

Our destiny offers, not the cup of despair, but the chalice of opportunity. So let us seize it, not in fear, but in gladness—and, "riders on the earth together," let us go forward, firm in our faith, steadfast in our purpose, cautious of the dangers; but sustained by our confidence in the will of God and the promise of man.

RN.

[Thor Simpson]

:jawdrop:

[JasonF]

It's pretty funny to hear you talking openly about these "cults" now, JasonF . :) Doesn't make Obama's go away, you know. Much like highlighting Palin's inexperience.

I don't think there's anything wrong with supporting a politician. I just think it's laughable to act as if the fact that some people care passionately about Senator Obama's candidacy is some sort of new and unprecedented phenomenon that can only be explained through mass hypnosis.

Similarly, my problem with Governor Palin isn't her inexperience, it's that she appears to be a petty, venal, corrupt tin-pot, and also the hypocrisy of the Republicans spending months touting experience as the be-all and end-all only to turn around and rally behind a relatively inexperienced candidate.

[JasonF]

I feel bad for JasonF. He's been taken over by some kind of monster this past year. I call him Obamblor and it's time to snatch him from his neon claws!

:lol:

Since when did not being cynical about a politician become a character flaw?

[wishbone]

I feel bad for JasonF. He's been taken over by some kind of monster this past year. I call him Obamblor and it's time to snatch him from his neon claws!:lol: Homerific!

[Tracer Bullet]

Obama is young. There are lots of Europeans that came before him. Before he came before the Europeans.

Let's not start with the Obama slash, please.

[Thor Simpson]

Huh?

[JasonF]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_fiction

[Thor Simpson]

Learn something new every day. Yesterday it was Spanish, today... Slash. Obama is making me a better human.

[Larry C.]

http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obamacigarette.jpg/obamacigarette-medium;init:.jpg

http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obamaholy.jpg/obamaholy-medium;init:.jpg


Q. Why doesn't the Church of Obama Messiah light candles?
A. Obama wants to keep his followers in the dark.


Q. Why didn’t Obama Messiah notice all of the terrible things Pastor Wright was saying?
A. He was too busy polishing his Halo.



Q. Why does Barack want higher taxes?
A. Cause he won’t be the one paying them.


Q: What's the problem with Barack Obama jokes?
A: His followers don't think they're funny and other people don't think they're jokes.


Q. Candidate Obama has been telling us, “Yes We Can.” What will President Obama tell us?
A. “Yes You Will.”


Q. Why did Barack Obama register to run for office as a Democrat?
A. The Communist Party doesn’t have enough voters.


Robin Hood took from the rich and gave to the poor.
Barack Obama takes from the middle class and sticks it to the poor.

[wm lopez]

At this point I really need to ask: are you some sort of performance artist?

I guess I have the same gift Bill O'Reilly and John Hagee have.
When we say something that you know deep down inside of you is true, but don't want it mentioned for others may hear it and know the truth.
And then you get angry at the messenger.

[wm lopez]

Folks! Let's not take everything so seriously.

I believe there's nothing wrong with having a little fun on the forum.

The Sound of the Sixth Trump brings the anti-Christ - Satan.

And no, everyone doesn't believe the 'coming from Europe' thing. Therefore if you can count, you won't be deceived.

Shall I continue with a full sermon on the matter? :)
By everyone you mean the media and Hollywood.
Yes, I know that.

[Bandoman]

I guess I have the same gift Bill O'Reilly and John Hagee have.
When we say something that you know deep down inside of you is true, but don't want it mentioned for others may hear it and know the truth.
And then you get angry at the messenger.


Yeah, that's it. That's it exactly.

[Dr Mabuse]

:lol:

[Tracer Bullet]

This place is getting fun again!

[tasha99]

I don't think Barack Obama is the Messiah, but I think maybe he posts at dvdtalk, which would be cool in it's own way.

Brack/ Barack

"I could take it or leave it"/ "present"

There's probably more. Let the conspiracy theories begin . . . :tinfoil:

[creekdipper]

I don't think there's anything wrong with supporting a politician. I just think it's laughable to act as if the fact that some people care passionately about Senator Obama's candidacy is some sort of new and unprecedented phenomenon that can only be explained through mass hypnosis.

Similarly, my problem with Governor Palin isn't her inexperience, it's that she appears to be a petty, venal, corrupt tin-pot, and also the hypocrisy of the Republicans spending months touting experience as the be-all and end-all only to turn around and rally behind a relatively inexperienced candidate.


I, too, thought she was too inexperienced for the job until I heard D'oh! Biden telling a group that he left his job as city councilman for the Senate because the city council job was too hard. Guess her mayorship carries some weight after all.

[Red Dog]

I've come to the conclusion that many liberals worship Obama because they see him in an idealist fashion as a real life Jed Bartlett.

[classicman2]

If Obama is the candidate of change - what major issue does he disagree with the consensus of the Democratic Party on?

[wishbone]

If Obama is the candidate of change - what major issue does he disagree with the consensus of the Democratic Party on?I do not know if it is a major issue but Faith-Based Initiatives (http://pewforum.org/religion08/compare.php?Issue=Faith__Based_Initiatives)? :shrug:

[Red Dog]

I don't think that's a major issue, and if he is going to deviate from the Dems on an area to try to gain my vote, that's certainly not going to do it. ;)

[Brack]

I don't think Barack Obama is the Messiah, but I think maybe he posts at dvdtalk, which would be cool in it's own way.

Brack/ Barack

"I could take it or leave it"/ "present"

There's probably more. Let the conspiracy theories begin . . . :tinfoil:

I guess the jig is up. I'll see if I can get Scarlet Johansson on here as well.

[DGibFen]

And just when I thought I'd seen everything in the election...

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/19/protesters-interrupt-obama/

Barack Obama's campaign rally in Coral Gables, Florida Friday was interrupted by a group of about 10 African-American protesters holding signs that called themselves, "Blacks Against Obama."

The signs said Obama was for gay marriage and abortion, and said his candidacy was "endorsed by the KKK." Another sign said, "Jesse Jackson hates Obama."

Obama originally said the protesters could stay inside the event, but they were escorted out when they would not stop shouting.

[Venusian]

looks like that site is blocked here.

here is the group that was protesting: http://www.michaelwarns.com

[DGibFen]

looks like that site is blocked here.

here is the group that was protesting: http://www.michaelwarns.com

I fixed it with the CNN video.

[abrg923]

Why are the mods allowing such a ridiculous and silly thread to remain open?

[Brack]

Why are the mods allowing such a ridiculous and silly thread to remain open?

Because the Bible has too many plot holes? ;)

[classicman2]

Why are the mods allowing such a ridiculous and silly thread to remain open?

Possibly because it's received over 1800 views.

And, if the moderators closed every thread that had ridiculous & silly assertions, 94.3% of the threads on this forum would be closed.

[Brack]

This should be Obama's theme if he wins:

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[Thor Simpson]

They both have moles on their face. Prophecy!

[Dr Mabuse]

Barack sure handled that well.

"You young people up there, you can hold up your signs but let me finish what I've got to say."

[DJLinus]

"You young people up there, you can hold up your signs but let me finish what I've got to say."

And just what did he mean by that? Racist!

[Goldberg74]

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2529/cookingobamamockupsy5.png

[Jason]

And, if the moderators closed every thread that had ridiculous & silly assertions, 94.3% of the threads on this forum would be closed.

Even the one on made-up statistics?

:)

[The Bus]

At this point I really need to ask: are you some sort of performance artist?

:lol:

I feel bad for JasonF. He's been taken over by some kind of monster this past year. I call him Obamblor and it's time to snatch him from his neon claws!

:lol:

Nice to see that bhk has high-tailed it (from this thread at least). It's like a bhk-free Obama discussion zone.

[classicman2]

Can't you just see it now - Obama - the messiah?

If McCain can pull it off & get the Repubs to vote for the bailout plan - he'll be the saviour.

Who will know who vote for then?

It'll be confusing.

[bhk]

:lol:



:lol:

Nice to see that bhk has high-tailed it (from this thread at least). It's like a bhk-free Obama discussion zone.

I've said what I wanted to say. If I keep posting, the devotees seem to get upset.