Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Music Talk
Reload this Page >

Songs inspired by real women

Music Talk Discuss music in all its forms: CD, MP3, DVD-A, SACD and of course live

Songs inspired by real women

Old 09-07-08, 05:18 PM
  #1  
DVD Talk Legend
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Nightmare Alley
Posts: 17,117
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Songs inspired by real women

This was on yahoo today. What, no "Layla"?

Eight Songs Inspired by Real Women

By: Mental Floss (View Profile)

Songwriters have found inspiration in all sorts of places, from transvestites to team tennis titans. Maggie Koerth-Baker has read between the liner notes to find out for whom eight famous songs were written.

1. “Philadelphia Freedom”
Written by: Elton John and Bernie Taupin
Written for: Billie Jean King, as a thank-you for a tracksuit she gave Elton. And what a tracksuit it must have been! The 1975 song remains one of the most popular disco hits ever, leaving thousands of Hustle enthusiasts wondering just what Billie Jean King had to do with Philadelphia, anyway.

Turns out, the song was a reference to King’s pro tennis team, The Philadelphia Freedoms. Prior to 1968, tennis players were all considered “amateurs” and weren’t eligible to receive prize money. So, if you didn’t have the wealth to support yourself, you couldn’t play. Billie Jean King fought against those constraints, ultimately founding Professional World Team Tennis in 1974 and turning tennis into a paid league sport.

2. “Lola”
Written by: The Kinks’ Ray Davies
Written for: A transvestite. But the question is, which one? According to Rolling Stone, “Lola” was inspired by Candy Darling, a member of Andy Warhol’s entourage, whom Ray Davies briefly (and cluelessly) dated. If that’s the case, then “Lola” is just another notch on Darling’s song belt—she’s also referred to in Lou Reed’s “Walk on the Wild Side.” (“Candy came from out on the Island/ In the backroom she was everybody’s darlin’.”)

But, in the Kinks’ official biography, Davies tells a different story. He says “Lola” was written after the band’s manager spent a very drunken night dancing with a woman whose five o’clock shadow was apparently obvious to everyone but him.

3. “867-5309/Jenny”
Written by: Jim Keller (of Tommy Tutone) and Alex Call
Written for: Unknown, as the songwriters apparently make up a different story about its inspiration every time they’re asked. While the woman continues to remain a mystery, however, the phone number is all too real. In fact, it’s been wreaking havoc ever since 1982. The passage of time hasn’t quelled of the number of crank calls. In 1999, Brown University freshman roommates Nina Clemente and Jahanaz Mirza found that out the hard way, when the school adopted an 867 exchange number for its on-campus phone system. Immediately, the girls’ innocuous Room No. 5309 became a magnet for every drunk college kid with a 1980s fetish.

Other unfortunate phone customers have fought back with creative and profitable solutions, like the holder of 212-867-5309, who put his phone number up for auction on eBay in 2004. Bids approached $100,000 before eBay pulled the item at the request of Verizon, the number’s actual owner.

4. “Für Elise”
Written by: Ludwig van Beethoven
Written for: Some girl probably not named Elise. In fact, as far as most historians can tell, Beethoven didn’t even know an Elise. Instead, the song was originally titled “Bagatelle in A minor” based on some handwritten notation a Beethoven researcher claimed to have seen on a now-lost copy of the sheet music.

Further complicating things, Beethoven had hideous handwriting—to the point that some scholars speculate the song was actually written “for Therese,” as in Therese Malfatti, one of several women who turned down a marriage proposal from the notoriously lovesick maestro.

5. “Oh, Carol”
Written by: Neil Sedaka
Written for: Carole King, naturally. Sedaka and King actually dated briefly in high school—a romance Sedaka was able to successfully milk with “Oh, Carol,” a then top-ten (if now somewhat forgettable) 1959 pop song.

However, the real success of “Oh, Carol” came a few months later, when it inspired King to write a rebuttal entitled “Oh, Neil.” At the time, King and her husband, Gerry Goffin, were fledgling songwriters in need of a hit tune. “Oh, Neil” wasn’t that, but it did pay off. After Sedaka gave a tape of the song to his boss, King and Goffin landed jobs at the legendary Brill Building pop music factory, where the duo went on to write chart-toppers like “Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow” and “The Loco-Motion.”

6. “It Ain’t Me, Babe”
Written by: Bob Dylan
Written for: Joan Baez, though it clearly wasn’t the nicest gift Dylan could have given her. The two met in 1961, when Baez was an up-and-coming folk singer and Dylan was a nobody from Minnesota. Desperate to make his break in the music biz, Dylan worked like crazy to get Baez’s attention. He eventually ended up going on tour with her, which is how he first became famous, and also how the two began dating. For a while, they seemed like the golden couple, but things soon went downhill.

During a European concert tour together in early 1965, they had a huge fight and parted ways. That May, Dylan was holed up in a hotel after being hospitalized with a virus, and Baez, hoping to remain friends, decided to bring him flowers. Sadly, that’s how she found out that her ex was already dating someone else. That someone else was Sara Lownds, whom Dylan married a mere six months later.

7. “Our House”
Written by: Graham Nash (of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young)
Written for: Joni Mitchell. In December 1968, Nash and Mitchell moved into a cozy little house in the Laurel Canyon section of Los Angeles. Though commonly left out of the hippy pantheon, Laurel Canyon was sort of a commune-home away from commune-home for San Francisco society—not just CSN&Y, but also Jim Morrison, the Eagles, Frank Zappa, and more.

“Our House” was directly inspired by a lazy Sunday in the Nash/Mitchell household. The couple went out to brunch, hit an antiques store, and then returned to find the house just a bit chilly, at which point Nash literally “lit a fire,” while Mitchell “placed the flowers in the vase that she bought that day.” No, really. The whole tableau seemed so ridiculously domestic to Nash that he immediately sat down and spent the rest of the day writing about it.

8. “Dear Mama”
Written by: Tupac Shakur
Written for: Afeni Shakur, who is, obviously, Tupac’s mama. A fascinating character in her own right, Afeni Shakur was born Alice Fay Williams, but changed her name while working with the Black Panthers in the 1960s. In fact, Tupac (named after the Peruvian revolutionary leader Tupac Amaru II) was born in 1971—just a month after Afeni was acquitted of bombing conspiracy charges. (She had spent most of her pregnancy behind bars.) As the song implies, she and Tupac didn’t always get along, particularly during his adolescence, when Afeni was addicted to crack. But, by the time of Tupac’s death in 1996, she was clean and the two had patched things up long enough for Tupac to write that she “was appreciated.” Today, Afeni runs a charity in her son’s name and is (somewhat controversially) responsible for Tupac’s multiple posthumous CD releases.
Any others?
Old 09-07-08, 05:27 PM
  #2  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
DaveWadding's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 3,925
Received 21 Likes on 8 Posts
Derek & the Dominos - Layla
Eric Clapton - Wonderful Tonight
Beatles - Something

all for Pattie Boyd
Old 09-07-08, 05:57 PM
  #3  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 1,091
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Jersey Girl
Written by: Tom Waits
Written for: Kathleen Brennan, his wife
Old 09-07-08, 06:14 PM
  #4  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 8,983
Likes: 0
Received 246 Likes on 175 Posts
Deep Purple-Mary Long
Sweet Caroline-Neil Diamond(Caroline Kennedy)
Candle In The Wind-Elton John(Marilyn Monroe)
Crying In The Night-Buckingham/Nicks(Lesley Ann Warren)
Woman-John Lennon(Yoko)
Rosanna-Toto(Rosanna Arquette)
Go Your Own Way-Fleetwood Mac(Stevie Nicks)
Isn't "My Love" about Linda McCartney?

In concert ZZ Top would say the song "Precious and Grace" was named after two women they picked up hitchhiking who had just escaped from the women's penitentary. Take it or leave it
Old 09-07-08, 06:18 PM
  #5  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
DaveWadding's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 3,925
Received 21 Likes on 8 Posts
And then there were a bunch by Billy Joel for Christie Brinkley, including Uptown Girl and Christie Lee
Old 09-07-08, 06:23 PM
  #6  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,846
Likes: 0
Received 63 Likes on 39 Posts
Sharona Alperin - http://www.mysharona.com/

I never knew that was actually her on the infamous 45 sleeve back in '79.
Old 09-07-08, 06:28 PM
  #7  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Drexl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 16,077
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
"Love Song" (The Cure) was written by Robert Smith as a present for his wife.
Old 09-07-08, 06:37 PM
  #8  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Mondo Kane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 11,661
Received 112 Likes on 100 Posts
Beatles "I'm looking through you" Paul's girlfriend (Forgot her name)
Old 09-07-08, 06:40 PM
  #9  
Premium Member
 
The Cow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Grazing in a field somewhere...
Posts: 23,588
Received 690 Likes on 462 Posts
Whole Lotta Rosie - AC/DC
Old 09-07-08, 10:41 PM
  #10  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Hokeyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 20,405
Received 695 Likes on 429 Posts
"Edie (Ciao Baby)" - The Cult (written about Warhol protege Edie Sedgwick, who offed herself)
"Wild Horses" -- Rolling Stones (written about Marianne Faithful after her suicide attempt)
Old 09-07-08, 11:01 PM
  #11  
DVD Talk Legend
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Nightmare Alley
Posts: 17,117
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
"Cold Blooded" - Rick James (written about Linda Blair)
Old 09-07-08, 11:07 PM
  #12  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 6,205
Likes: 0
Received 233 Likes on 168 Posts
The Kinks - Victoria (Queen Victoria)
Old 09-07-08, 11:08 PM
  #13  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Lawrence, MA
Posts: 1,124
Received 30 Likes on 19 Posts
Behind The Wall of Sleep - Smithereens

Inspired by Kim Ernst of the Boston-based band 'The Bristols'.
Old 09-07-08, 11:13 PM
  #14  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Drexl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 16,077
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Originally Posted by Mondo Kane
Beatles "I'm looking through you" Paul's girlfriend (Forgot her name)
Susan Storm?
Old 09-08-08, 12:22 AM
  #15  
DVD Talk Legend
 
The Infidel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: the kingdom of the evil Voratians, ruled by the wicked Ak-Oga
Posts: 11,598
Received 85 Likes on 48 Posts
You're My Best Friend, written by Queen's John Deacon for his wife, Veronica.
Old 09-08-08, 03:25 AM
  #16  
Banned by request
 
Supermallet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Termite Terrace
Posts: 54,150
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
"Angie" by The Rolling Stones was written about Angela Bowie, David Bowie's wife.
Old 09-08-08, 03:45 AM
  #17  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Giantrobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Gateway Cities/Harbor Region
Posts: 63,244
Received 1,788 Likes on 1,116 Posts
"Plaster Caster" by KISS

About: The infamous Cynthia Plaster Caster
Old 09-08-08, 07:24 AM
  #18  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
LiquidSky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Pokey Dot Lounge, Nashville, TN
Posts: 9,199
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Giantrobo
"Plaster Caster" by KISS

About: The infamous Cynthia Plaster Caster

Cynthia is a trip. I like her hobby.
Old 09-08-08, 08:05 AM
  #19  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East of Ypsi
Posts: 8,905
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Bob Dylan: Idiot Wind (Sara Lownds)
Old 09-08-08, 08:13 AM
  #20  
TGM
DVD Talk Legend
 
TGM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 16,973
Received 401 Likes on 250 Posts
I'm pretty sure Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up" was inspired by a real woman... nay, every woman.
Old 09-08-08, 09:41 AM
  #21  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,664
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DaveWadding
Beatles - Something

all for Pattie Boyd
That's a myth.

Originally Posted by auto
Bob Dylan: Idiot Wind (Sara Lownds)
How about Dylan's "Sara?" (off of Desire). I also wonder if he wrote "If Not For You" off of New Morning about her.
Old 09-08-08, 10:05 AM
  #22  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 24,935
Received 265 Likes on 168 Posts
Originally Posted by DaveWadding
And then there were a bunch by Billy Joel for Christie Brinkley, including Uptown Girl
I thought they met on the set of the video. Obviously, the song was already written and recorded by then.
Old 09-08-08, 10:06 AM
  #23  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 24,935
Received 265 Likes on 168 Posts
Guns N Roses / "Sweet Child of Mine" = Erin Everly
Old 09-08-08, 10:43 AM
  #24  
DVD Talk Legend
 
The Infidel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: the kingdom of the evil Voratians, ruled by the wicked Ak-Oga
Posts: 11,598
Received 85 Likes on 48 Posts
Stevie Ray Vaughan - "Lenny"
John Denver - "Annie's Song"
Paul Simon - "Kathy's Song"
Steve Vai - "Viv Woman"
Prince - pretty much every song on disc 2 of Emancipation
Sloppy Seconds - Come Back Traci
Bloodhound Gang - The Ballad of Chasey Lain

Last edited by The Infidel; 09-08-08 at 11:00 AM.
Old 09-08-08, 12:02 PM
  #25  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Spiderbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 16,152
Received 1,058 Likes on 641 Posts
I thought most all love songs were inspired by "real" women.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.