Isn't it time to have separate threads for individual topics? As the election draws nearer the number of topics and posts will escalate, and the ability to keep up with everything using only one or two threads decreases correspondingly. Seriously, I really don't want to have to sift through and read all the crap about pregnancies, nor do I suspect most forum members do, simply to make an unrelated point. And considering there there are nearly two week old threads on the front page, what is really the point? I don't believe moderation is easier the way it is now, likely it is worse.
Can we have specific topics and threads?
classicman2
09-02-08, 05:43 PM
I'm all for the idea.
However, I believe you & I are in the distinct minority.
Groucho
09-02-08, 05:45 PM
As much as I loathe to admit it, I agree with Pharoh and c-man.
(on this issue only :grunt: )
wendersfan
09-02-08, 05:47 PM
The problem with separate threads for various minor topics, events, politicians, etc., is that people make the same posts and arguments in multiple threads, arguments are carried back and forth across multiple threads, one must read and/or search multiple threads to figure out what people are talking about, and there's simply a huge amount of duplication. It makes it almost impossible to moderate, as opposed to being difficult to moderate the way it is now.
Specific topics and threads don't stay specific for very long.
classicman2
09-02-08, 06:00 PM
But, wendersfan, the 'one and onlys' tend to stray somewhat. The threads now have a huge amount of duplication. I think that just goes with the territory - whethey they're the one & only type of the specific type.
There are specific threads that I would actually read everything that posters had to say.
I don't now. I have no idea what is being discussed in the Repub. Nat'l. Convention thread - expect the silly pregnancy thing. I've been gone a couple of days, and I'm at a loss. Sadly, I don't see any real need to catch up.
Pharoh
09-02-08, 06:18 PM
The problem with separate threads for various minor topics, events, politicians, etc., is that people make the same posts and arguments in multiple threads, arguments are carried back and forth across multiple threads, one must read and/or search multiple threads to figure out what people are talking about, and there's simply a huge amount of duplication. It makes it almost impossible to moderate, as opposed to being difficult to moderate the way it is now.
Specific topics and threads don't stay specific for very long.
I don't completely disagree. However, I am not talking about a new thread for each and every thought and topic, rather new threads for noteworthy and 'topical' issues. For example, the whole daughter pregnancy issue should have its own thread. As it is now, the one and only threads are unreadable and near incomprehensible, at least for folks like me.
Besides, Groucho agrees with me and C-Man. That has to count for something!
:)
grundle
09-02-08, 06:43 PM
This thread is too long. It's time to close it and start the "The One and Only Can we stop the One and Only threads, (politics), already?, part II" thread.
GreenMonkey
09-02-08, 06:45 PM
The one and only threads are a good idea, but maybe at this point the Presidential election threads could be un-generalized a little bit. Even if only one thread per candidate/running mate.
That way I could read news without also having to read 30 pages of Palin's pregnancy or whatever.
RoyalTea
09-02-08, 06:50 PM
For example, the whole daughter pregnancy issue should have its own thread.I disagree. I wish people would drop the issue entirely. She's a 17 year old private citizen. I don't see why her being pregnant is anybody's business.
Rockmjd23
09-02-08, 06:52 PM
If anything the OBGYN garbage from the RNC thread needs to go away. :lol:
Thor Simpson
09-02-08, 06:55 PM
I disagree. I wish people would drop the issue entirely. She's a 17 year old private citizen. I don't see why her being pregnant is anybody's business.
I disagree. Let's argue about it. Right here, right now. In this thread. Same place McCain wants to drill.
Thor Simpson
09-02-08, 06:59 PM
I would personally like to see different topics for the actual "issues" and some events like the upcoming VP debates. The DNC thread stayed much more on track than the RNC one.
For example, I would also like to see analysis of the two candidates' tax plans, but if you try to have that discussion in the main election thread it will be easily lost in a Vice Presidential womb.
My main justification of this is for archival purposes. It's fun to revist threads in the past to see what people thought about certain things/topics at the time. Nobody in their right mind will ever want to revisit these 1 and only election threads.
Having said that, I do understand that watching these election events play out over 20 different topics would be tiresome at best for the mods. Any press release or campaign statement is likely to find its way into numerous places with discussions stemming in different directions and people making arguments in different places.
So, I think we're all screwed. Maybe there's a way to get some things into their own threads but it's hard to determine a line for what belongs in the "general" election thread vs. individual topics. Both these guys are on on presidential runs and everything kind of blends together.
I agree that it's a mess and I'm contemplating bowing out of the political forum entirely in the near future until this election business is concluded.
Thor Simpson
09-02-08, 07:04 PM
What about a new thread "The one and only off-topic political forum wasteland" that is locked, and the mods can move a post out of a discussion into this wasteland thread if it fails to live up to the original topic of discussion? Sounds like it might require a lot of moves, but maybe not as bad as you would think?
Brack
09-02-08, 07:19 PM
my sincerest apologies everyone in the RNC thread. I had no idea so many supported teen pregnancy.
mosquitobite
09-02-08, 07:33 PM
:rolleyes: yeah, that's what it was...
OldDude
09-02-08, 07:41 PM
Another vote for separate thread per topic. The one and only are too long, too scattered.
Brack
09-02-08, 07:42 PM
:rolleyes: yeah, that's what it was...
I wish your child luck. I hope your who ha is clean ;)
X
09-02-08, 07:46 PM
I wish your child luck. I hope your who ha is clean ;)Knock it off, Brack. There's no need to crap up this thread as well.
Brack
09-02-08, 07:52 PM
Knock it off, Brack. There's no need to crap up this thread as well.
fine, but let the record show that she brought up vaginas, not me.
kvrdave
09-02-08, 07:55 PM
I have repeatedly pointed out my hatred for the "one and only" threads in politics.
Duran
09-02-08, 10:06 PM
I'd prefer separate threads as well. "One and only" threads make it damn near impossible to have a coherent conversation.
nemein
09-02-08, 11:31 PM
Sounds like it might require a lot of moves, but maybe not as bad as you would think?
W/ this crew :lol: That could be a full time job in and of itself.
Thor Simpson
09-02-08, 11:53 PM
I have repeatedly pointed out my hatred for the "one and only" threads in politics.
Ever since the "Would german shepherds make good presidents" thread was merged with "My chihuahua could rule the world" :(
slop101
09-02-08, 11:59 PM
Put me down for separate threads. The 'one & only' threads get too unwieldy and difficult to sift through. This shoulda' been a poll...
Sean O'Hara
09-03-08, 12:42 AM
I don't mind the one-and-onlies, but the election is too much for a single thread. Palin clearly needs a thread of her own to keep the main election thread readable.
Rockmjd23
09-04-08, 07:58 AM
Is there a non-presidential elections thread?
nemein
09-04-08, 08:06 AM
Someone usually starts a House/Senate/general congressional thread, but I don't think it has been done yet for this election.
EDIT: Actually here's a House election thread http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=509326 didn't see anything for the Senate though.
wendersfan
09-04-08, 08:34 AM
Someone usually starts a House/Senate/general congressional thread, but I don't think it has been done yet for this election.
EDIT: Actually here's a House election thread http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=509326 didn't see anything for the Senate though.I could have sworn I started a Senate election thread but I can't find it.
Red Dog
09-04-08, 09:52 AM
I prefer the comprehensive threads myself. :shrug:
VinVega
09-04-08, 10:06 AM
This is the one and only complaint thread we're going to have.
:rimshot:
Venusian
09-04-08, 10:08 AM
I could have sworn I started a Senate election thread but I can't find it.
stop trying to take credit for my work:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=506722
wendersfan
09-04-08, 10:13 AM
Oops.
Turned out I started the House thread.
classicman2
09-04-08, 10:15 AM
I prefer the comprehensive threads myself. :shrug:
Of course you do.
B5Erik
09-04-08, 10:23 AM
I'm not a fan of the "One and Only" threads.
Individual topics get lost in them.
nemein
09-04-08, 01:28 PM
Ok to try and strike enough of a balance between those that want and those that dislike the "one and only" threads here's what we've come up w/...
There's going to be one "issues" thread that'll cover things like the economy, foreign relations, domestic policy, etc.
There'll be another "non-issues" thread that'll be for everything else.
Conventions (which are almost over), polls/EC predictions, and each of the debates will have their own threads as well (provided someone starts them). If history serves as a guide there'll be an election night thread as well.
The Palin thread will most likely remain open as well. We'll see where it goes and if it gets a pt2 when we get to that point.
The mods will have discretion as far as moving/deleting posts that don't fit the thread to try and keep the threads mostly on track.
The split will happen when the current thread (the 23rd version) hits the post limit.
classicman2
09-04-08, 01:31 PM
Good!
VinVega
09-04-08, 01:35 PM
You know we're never going to make it to the 110th Presidential Election thread now. :(
Hopefully this new idea will help. Don't say we don't care. :)
Red Dog
09-04-08, 05:49 PM
:lol: This will last all of a week.
JasonF
09-04-08, 05:54 PM
Maybe a mod could make the "issues" thread a sticky? Otherwise, it's going to fall off the first page and everyone will forget we have it.
Wither way, I doubt we'll need to lock the issues version for length before we get to the election. The non-issues version, on the other hand ...